But my first thought is... didn't the kids voluntarily bring school cameras (laptops with obvious cameras) into their homes? Weren't they required to sign them out against some kind of document that says (at least) something like, "this is our device, we can do whatever we want with it, including activating anti-theft measures, entirely at our discretion"? If not, then the school most certainly screwed up. Though even then it would seem like everyone had a reasonable expectation that the school could do whatever they want with their equipment, locally or remotely... even if we find this particular action distasteful (accident or not).
Holy crap...are you serious? I have a couple of laptops with built-in web cams (it's almost getting hard to find one without...). If I loan my laptop to the proverbial hot chick next door, then fire up the web cam in her house and spy on her as she's getting undressed, are you *seriously* saying that's OK since it's, and I quote, "my device, and I can do whatever I want with it, including activating anti-theft measures, entirely at my discretion..." and since there's "...a reasonable expectation that [I] could do whatever [I] want with [my] equipment, locally or remotely..."? I really doubt that would fly in front of a judge, and were I to do such a horrendous thing, I would rightfully be held accountable for that. The fact that this was done by a school district to minors should only make this an even more clear-cut, egregious breach of privacy than what I described above.
You do realize the end result of this would be that the people who were fired would just get a job somewhere else...
Yeah, I would be *soooo* willing to hire someone from that school's administration and staff when they came to me looking for a job </sarc>
In the end, all you end up doing is paying off some lawyers in a civil case against a school board. Your suing yourself and too stupid to realize it.
And you propose what, exactly, instead? The Feds have dropped the case, so unless the local DA decides to press charges -- which has already been shown unlikely in the comments here -- there will be no criminal case. Right or wrong, our society tends to frown on vigilantism, so taking those responsible out behind the barn and putting a bullet between their eyes isn't really a good option either. I don't see any other options here.
Spare us all your patronizing "angst-ridden teen" put downs. I'm well on my way to becoming a grey-beard, and I completely reject your claim that we all eventually become the very thing we hated in our youth. Yes, there are youth who rebel against authority because they are young, undisciplined and don't know any better. However, there are equally as many idealistic young people who see the corruption and evil in those who are in power and call out those things that should be changed. All too often, unfortunately, the rebellious youngster eventually grows up and finds himself in a position of power, and as Lord Acton said, "power corrupts". This is NOT a good thing.
The fact that every previous generation has sold out to the lust for power and control should never be an excuse for the current generation to do likewise.
I certainly hope so. I was really disappointed to find that voice dialing did not work on the Android, even though my old Motorola...whatever it was, the next step down from the RAZR, I think...did voice dialing over bluetooth just fine. I've got a bluetooth headset on my motorcycle helmet, and, well, it's difficult to pull the phone out of a zippered pocket, dial the phone number on a touch screen and hold the phone during a call while on a bike:)
(Cue the "don't ride and talk, you @#$!!! idiot!" posts in 3...2...1...)
They dont. No MSC functionality what so ever. All communication with an Iphone is done through Itunes.
Ugh...glad I bought an Android, then.
Only/SDCARD is VFAT and this can be reformatted to EXT3 if the user wants. FAT32 is only there for compatibility with OS's that cant read EXT file systems
Hmmm...I've got an extra microSD for my Hero. I'll have to give that a try and see how it works.
You can spread hate and venom if you want, but personally, I find there's enough of that around already without me adding to it. I'd rather call out the gold in people, buy hey, that's just me. If by some twisted exercise of logic that makes me "evil" to you, well, that's your opinion and you're welcome to it. But then I'd rather be a (perhaps) slightly naive, happy person than a bitter old man. But, whatever floats your boat.
My brother-in-law was an Air National Guard helicopter rescue pilot. He was on a training flight one day when the helicopter flamed out, and they crashed. Shortly afterwards, another ANG helicopter was dispatched to pick up my brother-in-law and the rest of the crew. Shortly after picking up my brother-in-law's crew, the second chopper crashed, too. What *really* makes the story funny is that they later tried to airlift out the helicopter my brother-in-law was flying, and ended up dropping it en route. That's *three* crashes in this incident!
Think of it this way: 1) they are dead, so they can no longer continue their idiotic policies. Therefore, there is no use continuing to sling vitriol. Bury your animosity with the dead. 2) because like them or not, they are people, and therefore they have family members that (presumably) love them despite their flaws. Out of respect for their survivors, put on a kind face.
IMHO, this is a good thing, and brings out the best in people. I really don't see the reason why people have to continue to hate so much on someone simply because they disagreed with their political stance while they were alive.*
*Yes, I live in Alaska, and no, I did not vote for Stevens since...I don't remember how long, but it's been well over a decade. I felt he was corrupt and needed to be thrown out, but (too) many of my peers disagreed with me until the last election.
True, and if the Android were to move to a better file system than FAT32, that's probably the best way to do it. But it does introduce the complexity of requiring software to access the device's file system from a Windows PC. While that may not be a big deal for TomTom (since they are the manufacturer for all TomTom devices), it becomes a somewhat bigger challenge for manufacturers of Android devices, since Motorola, HTC, etc., etc. would *all* have to include a Windows driver for the SD card. While I, for one, would certainly appreciate the irony if the SD card worked natively in my Linux boxes, but wouldn't work without a driver on Windows machines, I'm not sure that would help the Android platform gain widespread acceptance.
Out of curiosity, how does a Windows user gain access to the iPhone's file system? Is there even a removable storage card on an iPhone, or is the entire phone a USB mass storage device?
Wow, that's really funny. I think this is the first time *I* have ever been called Bill Gates. Did you happen to notice my sig by any chance?
My point, which I thought was pretty clear and even though it pains me greatly to say so, was that there isn't another file system that is as widely supported out of the box as FAT32. UFS? Nope. Ext2/3/4? Nope. ReiserFS? Nope. NTFS? Nope. ZFS? Nope. There is a *reason* FAT32 is the standard for removable mass storage, even though it really sucks (especially from a security standpoint).
So, yes, Android *could* move apps into a different file system (or even, as you suggest, into an embedded file system inside a single file), but then you would completely lose the ability to pull your SD card from your phone and access the data on the card from your PC (which, incidentally, I did just the other day on my microSD card in my Android phone).
As a Linux user, I would prefer to see the SD cards on Android phones using something like ext3 rather than FAT32. However, as someone firmly in touch with the real world, I understand why they chose FAT32. Since most desktops still run Windows, most of those that don't run Windows run OS-X, and it's still (unfortunately) a relative minority like me that runs a Linux OS on their (lap|desk)tops, FAT32 is still the logical choice, despite its security issues. I do agree that the "move apps to SD card" option is a really poor choice, in light of FAT32's security model, however.
I'll be honest, I hadn't considered faking the input to the GPS rather than the output to the cops. Having said that, I am curious if it is really that simple. After all, GPS works by correlating something like four channels of input (more if you're using WAAS).
If there really was a security vulnerability the size of a small planet, as you claim, then I'd think that's a much bigger threat to, say, commercial aviation (can you say "terrorists?") than the fingernail file I'm no longer allowed to carry in my carry-on luggage -- not that I am naive enough to think security theatre is *really* about security.
I'm not saying the GPS receiver is encrypted; I'm saying the data feed from the GPS receiver to the monitoring authorities may be encrypted. I'd encrypt it, if I was monitoring a bad guy.
If you want to spoof a data stream, you'd better be able to send it in the format they expect, including any encryption methods they may be using.
He's not continuing the policy, and he's certainly not covering anything up.
Shortly before taking office but after being elected president, he voted to provide telco immunity, despite promising to vote *against* that bill. That's continuing the policy. Furthermore, after being elected, he refused to release documentation about the warrantless wire tapping. That's covering up.
He's defending the nation in a legal matter. As the Chief Executive and the person who appoints the Attorney General, that's his job.
Ummm, no. As Chief Executive, he is sworn to uphold the Constitution. By continuing the policy, covering it up, and failing to prosecute those who abused their authority in enacting the policy, he is most definitely *NOT* doing his job.
Unfortunately, it's a hateful legal matter left behind by a criminal administration.
If it was truly a criminal administration -- and mind you, I agree it was -- then he is bound by oath to do exactly that. If he fails to prosecute the previous administration, then he is implicitly giving his approval to those crimes.
I'd prefer that his first order in office were to prosecute every one of them.
Well, we are in agreement here:)
...as he's a reasonable person...
I think you are using your conclusion to prove your assumptions here. I've seen nothing to suggest that Obama is a reasonable person. From my perspective, he is every bit as corrupt and partisan as his predecessor. The only difference I see between Bush and Obama is to whom he is beholden (and a little bit of variance in social policies). That hardly makes Obama and his cronies more "reasonable" than Bush and his cronies were
Good plan. Then they'll know you found it and they will replace it with a new GPS that they've hidden better. As far as jamming and/or generating a fake GPS stream...well, I know this is/. so there's a greater than average collection of geeks and hackers, but do you really think you can spoof military grade encryption? Seriously?
I was conservative until 2004, although I started having misgivings about the Republican party back when Bush Sr. was in office, and changed my official party affiliation from "Republican" to "undeclared". Now that I've established my political preferences (i.e., I'm anything but leftist), let me say that I seriously dislike the modern neocon Republican party.
I always understood the Republicans to be in favor of limited Federal government, small budget, strong state's rights, etc. The modern Republican party is anything but. The last eight years of Republican government have been nothing but a mad power-grab that disillusioned enough people to put Obama and a Democratic Congress in power. Now that they've been in place for two years, what do we have? More of the same (surprise, surprise).
As far as I can tell, the only big difference between the two parties is who pays the campaign finances. With the Republicans, it's the big corporations. With the Democrats, it's the unions. As far as policies, it's pretty much just a matter of "family values" (like abortion and gay rights), gun control and social programs. Republicans tend towards fascism (they seem to want to control what people can and can't do), but are strongly in favor of gun rights, and want to spend less money on social programs. Democrats tend to be more liberal (no pun intended) on what individuals can and can't do, would love to see the U.S. disarmed and want to spend more money on social programs. Ultimately, however, it's pretty much like AVP -- no matter who wins, we (the people) lose.
So if I understand you correctly, you are saying that covering up for someone who did something illegal and failing to reverse the illegal policy is less evil than creating the illegal policy in the first place? I'm not so sure I agree with you there*.
* I'm not saying Obama's policies are more evil than Bush's, but IMHO, continuing an illegal policy simply because you didn't create it is no less evil -- or at best, is only slightly less evil -- than putting such a policy in place.
Don't be mistaken. I'm absolutely *NOT* saying "I don't want to hurt anyone." If you are in my house with malicious intent, I want you down for the count. I'm saying I have a daughter down the hall, and a neighbor on the other side of my bedroom wall (it's a zero lot line). I don't want to miss the bad guy and kill one of them instead because I bought a hand cannon. I'm reasonably certain that my 12 gauge has plenty of stopping power without unnecessarily placing my daughter or neighbors at risk.
And yes, I can handle a.45. I've shot a friend's Springfield 1911 (really, really nice gun, by the way) and another friend's Ruger Blackhawk.44. I was fine up to and including the.44 mags, but I was done when he loaded up the corbons. I could shoot them, but it wasn't much fun:) In truth, if I was starting over, I'd probably swap my Beretta 9mm for something a little heavier. It's a nice gun, but yeah, it's a little under powered. When I bought it, I was 19 (my dad bought it for me), and chose it because it's what the military used. I figured ammo would always be readily available, but didn't think hard enough about stopping power.
Are you kidding? A grenade launcher against an intruder would be totally AWESOME!. Pointless -- it would do more damage than the intruder possibly could -- but awesome:)
Okay, okay. My bad. I did, of course, mean.40 rather than 40mm. See what happens when I don't critically think about *all* the details the O.P. mentioned when I reply? He said:
In any case, a Glock 40mm or a 12 gauge...
In any case, I'll still stick with my shotgun. I've kind of always assumed that in a home defense scenario, it's probably going to be the middle of the night, in which case my wife will be sleeping next to me -- not in a stranglehold with the baddy behind her. Furthermore, the beauty of a shotgun -- especially at CQB ranges -- is that you don't have to aim it. Since shot will scatter as it leaves the barrel, all you have to do is point it reasonably close to your target, and some of the shot will hit. Therefore, when adrenaline is high, visibility is poor, and I need the FIRST shot to count, I'd prefer a shotgun to a handgun or rifle. I also disagree with most of your other points about a shotgun. I own a Mossberg Mariner with an 18 1/2 inch barrel, not a duck hunting gun. Unless the bad guy is standing on my arm, I'm pretty certain I can wield it just fine, even with the full stock on it. I also have just a pistol grip, if I'm ever in a place where the extra length of the M-16 style stock currently in place is too big. It may not be as quick to fire as a semi-auto, but with an eight round capacity and a pistol grip on the pump, it's fast enough. It is slow to reload, but if I can't stop an intruder after eight shots (nine, if I already have one round chambered), then I doubt more shells will make much difference:)
However, on the off chance that I find myself in a situation where the Mossberg is not the best tool for the job, my collection also includes a 9mm, a.380, a.25, a.22 and an assortment of rifles. All I'm saying is that none of them will be my first choice inside my house.
REAL geeks prefer solutions that work. Poser geeks like solutions that look cool but provide poor results. There's not a security camera in the world that provides nearly as much deterrent to a would-be burgler as the sound of a 12-gauge being cocked in the night. If you must add tech to the home security solution, add night-vision goggles and/or a laser pointer to your shotgun.
If you shoot at and miss an intruder, your son/daughter down the hall or your next door neighbor could be the victim instead of the intruder. I own several guns, but my home defense weapon of choice is my Mossberg Mariner. Granted, it's a 12-gauge rather than a.410, but IMHO, any kind of shotgun would be much more suitable than a 40mm.
Meh...In the '90s, the DIY airplane guys were kicking the crap out of the General Aviation market. Nothing less sophisticated than a business jet was anywhere near as cool (read that as "had anywhere near the performance, value, and looks") as the amateur-built experimental airplanes. The Glasairs, Lancairs, etc. were miles (literally) and years ahead of anything that Cessna, Piper, etc. were building.
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But my first thought is... didn't the kids voluntarily bring school cameras (laptops with obvious cameras) into their homes? Weren't they required to sign them out against some kind of document that says (at least) something like, "this is our device, we can do whatever we want with it, including activating anti-theft measures, entirely at our discretion"? If not, then the school most certainly screwed up. Though even then it would seem like everyone had a reasonable expectation that the school could do whatever they want with their equipment, locally or remotely... even if we find this particular action distasteful (accident or not).
Holy crap...are you serious? I have a couple of laptops with built-in web cams (it's almost getting hard to find one without...). If I loan my laptop to the proverbial hot chick next door, then fire up the web cam in her house and spy on her as she's getting undressed, are you *seriously* saying that's OK since it's, and I quote, "my device, and I can do whatever I want with it, including activating anti-theft measures, entirely at my discretion..." and since there's "...a reasonable expectation that [I] could do whatever [I] want with [my] equipment, locally or remotely..."? I really doubt that would fly in front of a judge, and were I to do such a horrendous thing, I would rightfully be held accountable for that. The fact that this was done by a school district to minors should only make this an even more clear-cut, egregious breach of privacy than what I described above.
You do realize the end result of this would be that the people who were fired would just get a job somewhere else...
Yeah, I would be *soooo* willing to hire someone from that school's administration and staff when they came to me looking for a job </sarc>
In the end, all you end up doing is paying off some lawyers in a civil case against a school board. Your suing yourself and too stupid to realize it.
And you propose what, exactly, instead? The Feds have dropped the case, so unless the local DA decides to press charges -- which has already been shown unlikely in the comments here -- there will be no criminal case. Right or wrong, our society tends to frown on vigilantism, so taking those responsible out behind the barn and putting a bullet between their eyes isn't really a good option either. I don't see any other options here.
Spare us all your patronizing "angst-ridden teen" put downs. I'm well on my way to becoming a grey-beard, and I completely reject your claim that we all eventually become the very thing we hated in our youth. Yes, there are youth who rebel against authority because they are young, undisciplined and don't know any better. However, there are equally as many idealistic young people who see the corruption and evil in those who are in power and call out those things that should be changed. All too often, unfortunately, the rebellious youngster eventually grows up and finds himself in a position of power, and as Lord Acton said, "power corrupts". This is NOT a good thing.
The fact that every previous generation has sold out to the lust for power and control should never be an excuse for the current generation to do likewise.
I'd be happy with 50% charge after an average workday of use...
I certainly hope so. I was really disappointed to find that voice dialing did not work on the Android, even though my old Motorola...whatever it was, the next step down from the RAZR, I think...did voice dialing over bluetooth just fine. I've got a bluetooth headset on my motorcycle helmet, and, well, it's difficult to pull the phone out of a zippered pocket, dial the phone number on a touch screen and hold the phone during a call while on a bike :)
(Cue the "don't ride and talk, you @#$!!! idiot!" posts in 3...2...1...)
They dont. No MSC functionality what so ever. All communication with an Iphone is done through Itunes.
Ugh...glad I bought an Android, then.
Only /SDCARD is VFAT and this can be reformatted to EXT3 if the user wants. FAT32 is only there for compatibility with OS's that cant read EXT file systems
Hmmm...I've got an extra microSD for my Hero. I'll have to give that a try and see how it works.
You can spread hate and venom if you want, but personally, I find there's enough of that around already without me adding to it. I'd rather call out the gold in people, buy hey, that's just me. If by some twisted exercise of logic that makes me "evil" to you, well, that's your opinion and you're welcome to it. But then I'd rather be a (perhaps) slightly naive, happy person than a bitter old man. But, whatever floats your boat.
If not, there's still time for a second crash.
My brother-in-law was an Air National Guard helicopter rescue pilot. He was on a training flight one day when the helicopter flamed out, and they crashed. Shortly afterwards, another ANG helicopter was dispatched to pick up my brother-in-law and the rest of the crew. Shortly after picking up my brother-in-law's crew, the second chopper crashed, too. What *really* makes the story funny is that they later tried to airlift out the helicopter my brother-in-law was flying, and ended up dropping it en route. That's *three* crashes in this incident!
Think of it this way: 1) they are dead, so they can no longer continue their idiotic policies. Therefore, there is no use continuing to sling vitriol. Bury your animosity with the dead. 2) because like them or not, they are people, and therefore they have family members that (presumably) love them despite their flaws. Out of respect for their survivors, put on a kind face.
IMHO, this is a good thing, and brings out the best in people. I really don't see the reason why people have to continue to hate so much on someone simply because they disagreed with their political stance while they were alive.*
*Yes, I live in Alaska, and no, I did not vote for Stevens since...I don't remember how long, but it's been well over a decade. I felt he was corrupt and needed to be thrown out, but (too) many of my peers disagreed with me until the last election.
True, and if the Android were to move to a better file system than FAT32, that's probably the best way to do it. But it does introduce the complexity of requiring software to access the device's file system from a Windows PC. While that may not be a big deal for TomTom (since they are the manufacturer for all TomTom devices), it becomes a somewhat bigger challenge for manufacturers of Android devices, since Motorola, HTC, etc., etc. would *all* have to include a Windows driver for the SD card. While I, for one, would certainly appreciate the irony if the SD card worked natively in my Linux boxes, but wouldn't work without a driver on Windows machines, I'm not sure that would help the Android platform gain widespread acceptance.
Out of curiosity, how does a Windows user gain access to the iPhone's file system? Is there even a removable storage card on an iPhone, or is the entire phone a USB mass storage device?
Wow, that's really funny. I think this is the first time *I* have ever been called Bill Gates. Did you happen to notice my sig by any chance?
My point, which I thought was pretty clear and even though it pains me greatly to say so, was that there isn't another file system that is as widely supported out of the box as FAT32. UFS? Nope. Ext2/3/4? Nope. ReiserFS? Nope. NTFS? Nope. ZFS? Nope. There is a *reason* FAT32 is the standard for removable mass storage, even though it really sucks (especially from a security standpoint).
So, yes, Android *could* move apps into a different file system (or even, as you suggest, into an embedded file system inside a single file), but then you would completely lose the ability to pull your SD card from your phone and access the data on the card from your PC (which, incidentally, I did just the other day on my microSD card in my Android phone).
As a Linux user, I would prefer to see the SD cards on Android phones using something like ext3 rather than FAT32. However, as someone firmly in touch with the real world, I understand why they chose FAT32. Since most desktops still run Windows, most of those that don't run Windows run OS-X, and it's still (unfortunately) a relative minority like me that runs a Linux OS on their (lap|desk)tops, FAT32 is still the logical choice, despite its security issues. I do agree that the "move apps to SD card" option is a really poor choice, in light of FAT32's security model, however.
I'll be honest, I hadn't considered faking the input to the GPS rather than the output to the cops. Having said that, I am curious if it is really that simple. After all, GPS works by correlating something like four channels of input (more if you're using WAAS).
If there really was a security vulnerability the size of a small planet, as you claim, then I'd think that's a much bigger threat to, say, commercial aviation (can you say "terrorists?") than the fingernail file I'm no longer allowed to carry in my carry-on luggage -- not that I am naive enough to think security theatre is *really* about security.
Anyway, I see your point.
I'm not saying the GPS receiver is encrypted; I'm saying the data feed from the GPS receiver to the monitoring authorities may be encrypted. I'd encrypt it, if I was monitoring a bad guy.
If you want to spoof a data stream, you'd better be able to send it in the format they expect, including any encryption methods they may be using.
He's not continuing the policy, and he's certainly not covering anything up.
Shortly before taking office but after being elected president, he voted to provide telco immunity, despite promising to vote *against* that bill. That's continuing the policy. Furthermore, after being elected, he refused to release documentation about the warrantless wire tapping. That's covering up.
He's defending the nation in a legal matter. As the Chief Executive and the person who appoints the Attorney General, that's his job.
Ummm, no. As Chief Executive, he is sworn to uphold the Constitution. By continuing the policy, covering it up, and failing to prosecute those who abused their authority in enacting the policy, he is most definitely *NOT* doing his job.
Unfortunately, it's a hateful legal matter left behind by a criminal administration.
If it was truly a criminal administration -- and mind you, I agree it was -- then he is bound by oath to do exactly that. If he fails to prosecute the previous administration, then he is implicitly giving his approval to those crimes.
I'd prefer that his first order in office were to prosecute every one of them.
Well, we are in agreement here :)
...as he's a reasonable person...
I think you are using your conclusion to prove your assumptions here. I've seen nothing to suggest that Obama is a reasonable person. From my perspective, he is every bit as corrupt and partisan as his predecessor. The only difference I see between Bush and Obama is to whom he is beholden (and a little bit of variance in social policies). That hardly makes Obama and his cronies more "reasonable" than Bush and his cronies were
Good plan. Then they'll know you found it and they will replace it with a new GPS that they've hidden better. As far as jamming and/or generating a fake GPS stream...well, I know this is /. so there's a greater than average collection of geeks and hackers, but do you really think you can spoof military grade encryption? Seriously?
"Oh, I'm sorry, officer. The e-mail was caught in my spam filter!" Since I run my own mail server, no one will be able to prove otherwise.
I disagree.
I was conservative until 2004, although I started having misgivings about the Republican party back when Bush Sr. was in office, and changed my official party affiliation from "Republican" to "undeclared". Now that I've established my political preferences (i.e., I'm anything but leftist), let me say that I seriously dislike the modern neocon Republican party.
I always understood the Republicans to be in favor of limited Federal government, small budget, strong state's rights, etc. The modern Republican party is anything but. The last eight years of Republican government have been nothing but a mad power-grab that disillusioned enough people to put Obama and a Democratic Congress in power. Now that they've been in place for two years, what do we have? More of the same (surprise, surprise).
As far as I can tell, the only big difference between the two parties is who pays the campaign finances. With the Republicans, it's the big corporations. With the Democrats, it's the unions. As far as policies, it's pretty much just a matter of "family values" (like abortion and gay rights), gun control and social programs. Republicans tend towards fascism (they seem to want to control what people can and can't do), but are strongly in favor of gun rights, and want to spend less money on social programs. Democrats tend to be more liberal (no pun intended) on what individuals can and can't do, would love to see the U.S. disarmed and want to spend more money on social programs. Ultimately, however, it's pretty much like AVP -- no matter who wins, we (the people) lose.
So if I understand you correctly, you are saying that covering up for someone who did something illegal and failing to reverse the illegal policy is less evil than creating the illegal policy in the first place? I'm not so sure I agree with you there*.
* I'm not saying Obama's policies are more evil than Bush's, but IMHO, continuing an illegal policy simply because you didn't create it is no less evil -- or at best, is only slightly less evil -- than putting such a policy in place.
Don't be mistaken. I'm absolutely *NOT* saying "I don't want to hurt anyone." If you are in my house with malicious intent, I want you down for the count. I'm saying I have a daughter down the hall, and a neighbor on the other side of my bedroom wall (it's a zero lot line). I don't want to miss the bad guy and kill one of them instead because I bought a hand cannon. I'm reasonably certain that my 12 gauge has plenty of stopping power without unnecessarily placing my daughter or neighbors at risk.
.45. I've shot a friend's Springfield 1911 (really, really nice gun, by the way) and another friend's Ruger Blackhawk .44. I was fine up to and including the .44 mags, but I was done when he loaded up the corbons. I could shoot them, but it wasn't much fun :) In truth, if I was starting over, I'd probably swap my Beretta 9mm for something a little heavier. It's a nice gun, but yeah, it's a little under powered. When I bought it, I was 19 (my dad bought it for me), and chose it because it's what the military used. I figured ammo would always be readily available, but didn't think hard enough about stopping power.
And yes, I can handle a
Okay, okay. My bad. I did, of course, mean
In any case, a Glock 40mm or a 12 gauge...
In any case, I'll still stick with my shotgun. I've kind of always assumed that in a home defense scenario, it's probably going to be the middle of the night, in which case my wife will be sleeping next to me -- not in a stranglehold with the baddy behind her. Furthermore, the beauty of a shotgun -- especially at CQB ranges -- is that you don't have to aim it. Since shot will scatter as it leaves the barrel, all you have to do is point it reasonably close to your target, and some of the shot will hit. Therefore, when adrenaline is high, visibility is poor, and I need the FIRST shot to count, I'd prefer a shotgun to a handgun or rifle. I also disagree with most of your other points about a shotgun. I own a Mossberg Mariner with an 18 1/2 inch barrel, not a duck hunting gun. Unless the bad guy is standing on my arm, I'm pretty certain I can wield it just fine, even with the full stock on it. I also have just a pistol grip, if I'm ever in a place where the extra length of the M-16 style stock currently in place is too big. It may not be as quick to fire as a semi-auto, but with an eight round capacity and a pistol grip on the pump, it's fast enough. It is slow to reload, but if I can't stop an intruder after eight shots (nine, if I already have one round chambered), then I doubt more shells will make much difference :)
.380, a .25, a .22 and an assortment of rifles. All I'm saying is that none of them will be my first choice inside my house.
However, on the off chance that I find myself in a situation where the Mossberg is not the best tool for the job, my collection also includes a 9mm, a
Your first paragraph broke my English language parser.
REAL geeks prefer solutions that work. Poser geeks like solutions that look cool but provide poor results. There's not a security camera in the world that provides nearly as much deterrent to a would-be burgler as the sound of a 12-gauge being cocked in the night. If you must add tech to the home security solution, add night-vision goggles and/or a laser pointer to your shotgun.
For home security, you don't want penetration.
.410, but IMHO, any kind of shotgun would be much more suitable than a 40mm.
If you shoot at and miss an intruder, your son/daughter down the hall or your next door neighbor could be the victim instead of the intruder. I own several guns, but my home defense weapon of choice is my Mossberg Mariner. Granted, it's a 12-gauge rather than a
Meh...In the '90s, the DIY airplane guys were kicking the crap out of the General Aviation market. Nothing less sophisticated than a business jet was anywhere near as cool (read that as "had anywhere near the performance, value, and looks") as the amateur-built experimental airplanes. The Glasairs, Lancairs, etc. were miles (literally) and years ahead of anything that Cessna, Piper, etc. were building.