We've had plenty enough of your proprietization of the Internet, thanks.
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And sometimes those personal relationships people think are important are really just an excuse to avoid doing anything useful or interesting with life.
We don't have a few billion dollars to buy off the government.
In countries with non-broken systems of government, this wouldn't be an issue - if America wasn't forcing the rest of the world to obey their corrupt, purchased laws.
How you get a Ph.D. and be this incredibly stupid is beyond me.
This creator nonsense explains nothing. If all life is explained by an intelligent creator, then (duh) who created the creator?
This is the question that exposes these religious lunatics posing as legitimate scientists. No matter what excuse they come up with to answer it, it's not an explanation. It's just pushing the problem up a level.
If the creator has "always" been here, then maybe we've just always been here as well. Any suitable explanation for how the creator was created is equally suitable for how life (ie us) was created, and vice versa.
It's creator fairy tale is just skirting the issue, nothing more.
I sincerely felt this way, and told many people of the distinction as well. A people != a government, that's a very important point (coincidentally, making people not understand this is propaganda goal #1 of the current US administration - 'united' this, 'with us or against us' that)
The last election changed this. You elected.. that man... again? And now you're hopping around the world, blatently slaughtering people for money (and everyone knows it)?
I tried to be nice and understanding, in all seriousness. But now, in general - fuck you Americans. The entire world hates you, congratulations.
Maybe realizing that will provide some motivation to fix your god damn country
No, you shouldn't have to bow down to anyone. That's the point.
You can spout your "best tool for the job" myth all you like. The reality is that you are forced into using crap tools by companies locking you in with proprietary file formats, protocols, etc.
You're lucky some of us care enough to defend your right to use the best tool for the job.
Many open source conferenecs (such as Penguicon) won't invite him as a speaker because they know that their other guest speakers (such as ESR) will refuse to attend if RMS is there [...] even when all qualifications are met, RMS is is ungrateful and rude to his hosts.
If you think RMS is a horrible, bad person, but ESR is all great, you're an idiot.
At least RMS is actually a real hacker, not some self-appointed hacker diplomat dipshit who thinks writing a mail fetching utility (can you say "weekend project"?) makes you a master visionary.
He's hurting the free software movement by scaring off 80% of the people and businesses that would otherwise line up behind him in support.
RMS only offends people who wouldn't line up behind him in the first place. ie proprietary software people, and pragmatic Open Source people who don't give two shits about freedom. So, it doesn't really hurt the movement at all.
I have a hard time agreeing that RMS is hurting his movement. Say what you will about the Open Source movement, "The Free Software Movement" was started by RMS, and it does not compromise. That is what the free software movement is all about - proprietary software is wrong. Not an inferior technical solution, or a less than ideal strategy - it it morally wrong, and must be abolished. (this is the Free Software stance, I'm not stating fact, no flames)
The Open Source people can compromise, and mingle with proprietary software corporations all they like, and I'm sure RMS's existance does indeed hurt them. But his hardline attitude sure as hell does not hurt the Free Software movement.
It's much easier to believe in the ideas of a truly dedicated man, than a weak-minded, pragmatic, compromising little weenie. If you don't like the uncompromising attitude and focus on freedom, well, that's why Free Software has a watered down alternative (Open Source).
They must have ignored their own territory, because the Canadian government ended up a little bigger than the United States one.
You cannot possibly be serious.. Is this what US republican propoganda makes you people believe or something?
Hint: The FBI, CIA, Secret Service, NSA, etc, etc, etc count as "government". The size of the US government is more comparable to whole damn population of Canada than Canada's government.
Sure, "java-like" things would exist, but everything that is actually "Java" would surely die.
Ever consider that maybe we shouldn't have to waste years of man hours to reimplement something that already exists, and it sooo close to being truly free software?
Yeah? What if Microsoft gobbles up Sun at some point in the future? Then all your Java code is useless. That'd be fantastic eh? You'd also probably be fired if you work as a Java developer - then your kids wouldn't be eating so well.
The point is you have absolutely no guarantees whatsoever. The fact that your old code still runs is nothing more than a happy accident.
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Make it truly open, or piss off.
We've had plenty enough of your proprietization of the Internet, thanks.
And sometimes those personal relationships people think are important are really just an excuse to avoid doing anything useful or interesting with life.
And in 1980 they were positive we'd have intelligent computers in 20 years.
It's always 20 years.
Always.
No shit, Sherlock.
You're ... worried... about it getting bored. Wow. Think you're taking this maybe a touch too far?
I think you've been spending a little bit too much time in science fiction fantasy land.
You didn't just suggest that drugs have a negative affect on dancing... did you?
Yeah, one little problem:
We don't have a few billion dollars to buy off the government.
In countries with non-broken systems of government, this wouldn't be an issue - if America wasn't forcing the rest of the world to obey their corrupt, purchased laws.
Hmm.. make that two little problems:
They are.
How you get a Ph.D. and be this incredibly stupid is beyond me.
This creator nonsense explains nothing. If all life is explained by an intelligent creator, then (duh) who created the creator?
This is the question that exposes these religious lunatics posing as legitimate scientists. No matter what excuse they come up with to answer it, it's not an explanation. It's just pushing the problem up a level.
If the creator has "always" been here, then maybe we've just always been here as well. Any suitable explanation for how the creator was created is equally suitable for how life (ie us) was created, and vice versa.
It's creator fairy tale is just skirting the issue, nothing more.
I sincerely felt this way, and told many people of the distinction as well. A people != a government, that's a very important point (coincidentally, making people not understand this is propaganda goal #1 of the current US administration - 'united' this, 'with us or against us' that)
The last election changed this. You elected.. that man... again? And now you're hopping around the world, blatently slaughtering people for money (and everyone knows it)?
I tried to be nice and understanding, in all seriousness. But now, in general - fuck you Americans. The entire world hates you, congratulations.
Maybe realizing that will provide some motivation to fix your god damn country
Canada doesn't need better "intellectual property" protection.. if we felt we needed better "IP" protection, then we would create some.
The states need to learn to mind their own goddamn business, and let other countries run themselves the way they see fit.
I do not know how CS degrees are structured in Canada, but here in the home of the War On Drugs, CS degrees tend to be conceptual
"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes."
-- Dijkstra
Yeah, just like 5 years ago nobody cared what Internet Explorer did, because who would be stupid enough to use IE, right?
Wait until MSN search is the default Windows home page, and the page Hotmail goes to after you log out, and see how many people use it.
No, you shouldn't have to bow down to anyone. That's the point.
You can spout your "best tool for the job" myth all you like. The reality is that you are forced into using crap tools by companies locking you in with proprietary file formats, protocols, etc.
You're lucky some of us care enough to defend your right to use the best tool for the job.
Many open source conferenecs (such as Penguicon) won't invite him as a speaker because they know that their other guest speakers (such as ESR) will refuse to attend if RMS is there [...] even when all qualifications are met, RMS is is ungrateful and rude to his hosts.
If you think RMS is a horrible, bad person, but ESR is all great, you're an idiot.
At least RMS is actually a real hacker, not some self-appointed hacker diplomat dipshit who thinks writing a mail fetching utility (can you say "weekend project"?) makes you a master visionary.
He's hurting the free software movement by scaring off 80% of the people and businesses that would otherwise line up behind him in support.
RMS only offends people who wouldn't line up behind him in the first place. ie proprietary software people, and pragmatic Open Source people who don't give two shits about freedom. So, it doesn't really hurt the movement at all.
I have a hard time agreeing that RMS is hurting his movement. Say what you will about the Open Source movement, "The Free Software Movement" was started by RMS, and it does not compromise. That is what the free software movement is all about - proprietary software is wrong. Not an inferior technical solution, or a less than ideal strategy - it it morally wrong, and must be abolished. (this is the Free Software stance, I'm not stating fact, no flames)
The Open Source people can compromise, and mingle with proprietary software corporations all they like, and I'm sure RMS's existance does indeed hurt them. But his hardline attitude sure as hell does not hurt the Free Software movement.
It's much easier to believe in the ideas of a truly dedicated man, than a weak-minded, pragmatic, compromising little weenie. If you don't like the uncompromising attitude and focus on freedom, well, that's why Free Software has a watered down alternative (Open Source).
I'll take a good honest, humorous "Have a nice cup of shut the fuck up!" over canned corporate PR bullshit any day.
But its RMS's brand of extremism that hurts free software more than it helps it.
It's "RMS's brand of extremism" that is the reason the vast majority of free software even exists today, you ungrateful bastard.
Do you really think you'd be posting on slashdot from a 'Linux system' if RMS was cool with proprietary software?
Better idea:
How about making it so that people all around the world don't want to blow up your country?
The USA asked for everything it got, and more. (The people of the USA most definitely did not deserve what they got. Country != people)
But, instead of trying to fix the problem, they all just go and make it much, much worse. Clever.
The problem that caused 9/11 is that the entire world hates the USA. Bombing people is not a very good solution to this problem.
You've done a lovely job destroying your own country.
Please stop trying to destroy mine.
Thank you.
They must have ignored their own territory, because the Canadian government ended up a little bigger than the United States one.
You cannot possibly be serious.. Is this what US republican propoganda makes you people believe or something?
Hint: The FBI, CIA, Secret Service, NSA, etc, etc, etc count as "government". The size of the US government is more comparable to whole damn population of Canada than Canada's government.
So you think the entire 'software economy' (barf) is based upon reimplementing crap that has already been done?
Man, if all you do is rewrite things that already exist, you deserve to lose your job.
The rest of us will be glad we're not wasting our time, and have a large pool of code to draw from to, you know, solve problems
Whether you think that's "wrong" or "right" is irrevelant: the guy broke the EULA and deserves to be punished.
Man.. do I ever hope you're trolling, for your sake.
.... you're joking right?
Try looking up "computing" in the dictionary some time.
No offense intended, but as a technician you deserve and will receive about the same level of respect as the guy who fixes my car.
Yeah, you know about cars. Good for you. Fix my car now.
Just because you're a computer technician doesn't make you better than all the other people who fix things for a living.
Sure, "java-like" things would exist, but everything that is actually "Java" would surely die.
Ever consider that maybe we shouldn't have to waste years of man hours to reimplement something that already exists, and it sooo close to being truly free software?
Yeah? What if Microsoft gobbles up Sun at some point in the future? Then all your Java code is useless. That'd be fantastic eh? You'd also probably be fired if you work as a Java developer - then your kids wouldn't be eating so well.
The point is you have absolutely no guarantees whatsoever. The fact that your old code still runs is nothing more than a happy accident.