The disturbing thing is that in a more civilized part of the country, beating somebody that's on the ground would entitle the person on the ground to self defense, not the person that instigated the fight and is now standing over the victim. Which is what witnesses testified to and is the only way that GZ could have used the weapon that he would have been lieing on if pinned.
I'll add this to my list of reasons why I'm not going to be going to the FL ever again. I'm not sure how anybody can think that menacing a kid can turn into legitimate self defense.
The problem is that if you can't identify the truths and the lies in the confession then you're no better than you were before the interrogation. The point of interrogation is to get useful information that can be used. If the useful information is drowned in a sea of generally unreliable bullshit, then you haven't achieved anything at all.
That's bullshit. Stress is known to cause memory loss, and when you're talking about torture, you're talking about an extreme level of stress.
What's more, people can be incredibly perceptive about things when sufficiently motivated. And the person doing the torture has to be extremely careful so as to not introduce contamination. Then again, you do have to stop torturing them when they talk, and that can be a pretty good hint to the person being tortured as to what to say, regardless of truth.
They could have gotten the same information using non-torture.
And what you're neglecting to factor in here is that the individual would have, in all likelihood, talked with less severe methods. Torture does not work on the people for whom there aren't other less extreme forms of interrogation. Somebody who isn't talking under any circumstance isn't going to talk even when tortured. What's more, when torturing for information, you have no way of knowing if it's true nor do you have any way of knowing if it's all of the relevant information.
In the case of those kidnappers, there could easily have been information that the kidnaper would kill the victim if they approached through a certain door, or would be killed if they didn't receive a call at a certain time.
So yes, this is no real information, it is the simplest type of information and not typically the sort of information that people are tortured to get.
That's going to result in creating a patsy if they weren't already guilty. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get people to say what you want them to say when they're under duress. These kind of fishing expeditions almost always result in a confession, it's just that there's no way of knowing how much they knew and how much they picked up from the interrogator.
The problem isn't that they stopped with the breakneck growth. The problem is that they haven't been doing any expanding lately. They're mainly making money off Windows and Office even as the competition makes better and better products. Sure, they've managed to successfully launch the XBox series of consoles, but that's a cutthroat industry and one or two ill received units can lead to you not having any more customers in that arena.
MS is also doing a shitty job of protecting it's OS from other interests. They change the UI and system so frequently that it requires substantial retraining for workers to know how to use the new version, and not any more training than it would take to switch to a different OS. Governments are starting to require interoperability out of contractors so that they aren't vendor locked into a single provider.
But, what's worse is that MS has a fair amount of cool stuff in development that rarely if ever gets into their products. When Bill was running things they would at least aspire to something grander. Often times it didn't work out, WebTV, Bob, Active Desktop, but at least there was passion there and an aspiration to make something amazing, even if it frequently exceeded their grasp.
I'm pretty sure that if you look at what GE does that you'll find an overrarching pattern of what they're doing. And GE is also a much older company than MS. They didn't start out making products in so many areas, they started out when Edison Electric merged with a competitor in the same field.
And from there they grew into all those other areas. GE had been in operation for about 70 odd years before MS was even founded, expanding into other areas along the way.
The CEO sets the priorities and the big picture stuff for the corporations and leaves it up to the other executives to actually make it happen.
When you have a company like MS that doesn't seem to have a particular vision, that reflects poorly on the CEO as it means that something is getting screwed up. Either he doesn't have one, isn't effectively communicating it or the marketing department isn't adequately communicating it to the world.
But, considering that MS has largely failed to do much more than maintain the status quo, it's pretty clear that the people he's keeping company with aren't getting things done. MS has a ton of great R&D going on, but very little ever seems to make it into a product. And when it does they tend to screw it up by making it brown or otherwise unpalatable.
As much as I hated the Apple of the latter half of the noughties, the fact is that Steve understood that and spent a lot more time and energy on making sure that people knew what Apple was about and that the products they released expanded upon that, rather than entering into random arenas with little commitment or focus.
Not just that, but the company has been largely coasting since Bill left. The reorganization is well over due.
Ultimately, they had a winner with 7, and chucked all the gains that they made with 8. Considering how important Windows still is to their bottom line, they should have been more mindful to evolve the product rather than chucking everything out.
They've also been doing abysmally at entering new markets since sometime in the mid '90s, and probably before that. Which hasn't improved under his watch. The XBox was the last successful entrance that they've made into a new arena. The Zune, windows phones and their other attempts haven't gone very well.
The share price itself is largely a reflection of the fact that they're still hugely profitable, albeit heavily dependent upon one or two product lines which are likely to be in trouble in the future if they can't enter new areas.
The number of employees has very, very little to do with the amount of capital available. The number of employees is directly related to the number of employees needed to do the jobs that the company needs done.
The access to capital relates to how a company grows.
Honestly, I wish you supply side folks, would actually do some research and perhaps therapy, as investment dollars have very little to do with job growth.
We don't have any trouble with food. We can import it, or fish for it. Ever notice how most of the major cities are on the coasts? Or adjacent to major waterways?
Yes, you guys contribute food, but ultimately, you are leeches that are sucking out of the system more than you put into the system. If you can't figure out what to charge for your products, that's not our fault, but I don't see why we should be spending money that we need for education and our infrastructure so that you can leech off the system.
Also, you're welcome for our medical care and our education.
Not really. Good luck with that. We could easily import food from other countries.
And good luck, repairing your equipment, without parts that we produce, oil that we import and the educational establishments that we have. This whole idea that somehow rural folks have us over some sort of a barrel is just plain ridiculous.
Or, how about medicine? That's a product of the urban areas as well.
Might not want to say that too loudly. I'm in the middle of a major city and FTTH may never arrive. The local ISPs have yet to make anything resembling a firm promise for FTTH and 5mbps service is the best my neighborhood can get. As recently as a couple years ago, there were neighborhoods that weren't able get more than 1.5mbps service.
Then they can pay for it themselves. I don't understand why urban areas have to subsidize rural areas at the expense of our priorities. If they can't figure out how to make their lifestyle choices cost effective, then perhaps they need to learn how to be self reliant.
Easy, we ship the food in from overseas in exchange for things that we produce in urban areas. Or we use the railroads that are more cost effective anyways. Leaving the rural folks to actually pay their own way for the infrastructure that's primarily used by rural folks.
Honestly, this extreme level of arrogance and greed on the part of rural folks needs to stop. Service cuts disproportionately affect urban areas, even though urban tax payers contribute most of the money that pays for those services.
The rich do not become rich by spending. Sure it probably is true that a larger portion of expenditures are subject to sales tax for the wealthy. But, ultimately, a smaller portion of their income is spent rather than invested.
And no, I don't give a rat's ass about them investing their money. Especially given that there's no guarantee that the investments will benefit me or other Americans. And their tax rates are lower than they are for people that are less well off.
It's also worth noting that because of the way that the poverty level is calculated, people that are in urban areas don't qualify when they would be pretty well off in more rural areas, if they were making the same amount of money. Which makes subsidies to the poor at the federal level disproportionately favor the freeloading states over the states that actually contribute to the pot of money being used to provide the subsidies.
I haven't had any trouble with that, I don't have very many files or clients at the moment. And I've got all those files backed up already.
Keep in mind that it's presently pre-release software and bound to have bugs in it. But, AFAIK, it's the only one out there that doesn't require you to have an account with a 3rd party.
Because they want pictures of under aged girls or to have sexual contact with underage girls. Just chatting with girls and boys in that fashion is creepy, but not generally illegal.
At least that's how it is in the US, I would presume that's somewhat similar in Spain.
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The disturbing thing is that in a more civilized part of the country, beating somebody that's on the ground would entitle the person on the ground to self defense, not the person that instigated the fight and is now standing over the victim. Which is what witnesses testified to and is the only way that GZ could have used the weapon that he would have been lieing on if pinned.
I'll add this to my list of reasons why I'm not going to be going to the FL ever again. I'm not sure how anybody can think that menacing a kid can turn into legitimate self defense.
Right, which is ultimately a good thing, because having somebody acquitted on those grounds would just bolster the law.
The law itself is bullshit because it doesn't have any particular requirements other than the ability to claim that you feared for your life.
The problem is that if you can't identify the truths and the lies in the confession then you're no better than you were before the interrogation. The point of interrogation is to get useful information that can be used. If the useful information is drowned in a sea of generally unreliable bullshit, then you haven't achieved anything at all.
That's bullshit. Stress is known to cause memory loss, and when you're talking about torture, you're talking about an extreme level of stress.
What's more, people can be incredibly perceptive about things when sufficiently motivated. And the person doing the torture has to be extremely careful so as to not introduce contamination. Then again, you do have to stop torturing them when they talk, and that can be a pretty good hint to the person being tortured as to what to say, regardless of truth.
They could have gotten the same information using non-torture.
And what you're neglecting to factor in here is that the individual would have, in all likelihood, talked with less severe methods. Torture does not work on the people for whom there aren't other less extreme forms of interrogation. Somebody who isn't talking under any circumstance isn't going to talk even when tortured. What's more, when torturing for information, you have no way of knowing if it's true nor do you have any way of knowing if it's all of the relevant information.
In the case of those kidnappers, there could easily have been information that the kidnaper would kill the victim if they approached through a certain door, or would be killed if they didn't receive a call at a certain time.
So yes, this is no real information, it is the simplest type of information and not typically the sort of information that people are tortured to get.
Not likely.
That's going to result in creating a patsy if they weren't already guilty. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get people to say what you want them to say when they're under duress. These kind of fishing expeditions almost always result in a confession, it's just that there's no way of knowing how much they knew and how much they picked up from the interrogator.
The problem isn't that they stopped with the breakneck growth. The problem is that they haven't been doing any expanding lately. They're mainly making money off Windows and Office even as the competition makes better and better products. Sure, they've managed to successfully launch the XBox series of consoles, but that's a cutthroat industry and one or two ill received units can lead to you not having any more customers in that arena.
MS is also doing a shitty job of protecting it's OS from other interests. They change the UI and system so frequently that it requires substantial retraining for workers to know how to use the new version, and not any more training than it would take to switch to a different OS. Governments are starting to require interoperability out of contractors so that they aren't vendor locked into a single provider.
But, what's worse is that MS has a fair amount of cool stuff in development that rarely if ever gets into their products. When Bill was running things they would at least aspire to something grander. Often times it didn't work out, WebTV, Bob, Active Desktop, but at least there was passion there and an aspiration to make something amazing, even if it frequently exceeded their grasp.
I'm pretty sure that if you look at what GE does that you'll find an overrarching pattern of what they're doing. And GE is also a much older company than MS. They didn't start out making products in so many areas, they started out when Edison Electric merged with a competitor in the same field.
And from there they grew into all those other areas. GE had been in operation for about 70 odd years before MS was even founded, expanding into other areas along the way.
The CEO sets the priorities and the big picture stuff for the corporations and leaves it up to the other executives to actually make it happen.
When you have a company like MS that doesn't seem to have a particular vision, that reflects poorly on the CEO as it means that something is getting screwed up. Either he doesn't have one, isn't effectively communicating it or the marketing department isn't adequately communicating it to the world.
But, considering that MS has largely failed to do much more than maintain the status quo, it's pretty clear that the people he's keeping company with aren't getting things done. MS has a ton of great R&D going on, but very little ever seems to make it into a product. And when it does they tend to screw it up by making it brown or otherwise unpalatable.
As much as I hated the Apple of the latter half of the noughties, the fact is that Steve understood that and spent a lot more time and energy on making sure that people knew what Apple was about and that the products they released expanded upon that, rather than entering into random arenas with little commitment or focus.
Not just that, but the company has been largely coasting since Bill left. The reorganization is well over due.
Ultimately, they had a winner with 7, and chucked all the gains that they made with 8. Considering how important Windows still is to their bottom line, they should have been more mindful to evolve the product rather than chucking everything out.
They've also been doing abysmally at entering new markets since sometime in the mid '90s, and probably before that. Which hasn't improved under his watch. The XBox was the last successful entrance that they've made into a new arena. The Zune, windows phones and their other attempts haven't gone very well.
The share price itself is largely a reflection of the fact that they're still hugely profitable, albeit heavily dependent upon one or two product lines which are likely to be in trouble in the future if they can't enter new areas.
Presumably, those folks aren't wearing contact lenses that are purely aesthetic. Like the ones that do anime eyes or otherwise obscure the iris.
No, but people do wear contact lenses, and I'm not sure that the systems deal well with that.
The number of employees has very, very little to do with the amount of capital available. The number of employees is directly related to the number of employees needed to do the jobs that the company needs done.
The access to capital relates to how a company grows.
Honestly, I wish you supply side folks, would actually do some research and perhaps therapy, as investment dollars have very little to do with job growth.
We don't have any trouble with food. We can import it, or fish for it. Ever notice how most of the major cities are on the coasts? Or adjacent to major waterways?
Yes, you guys contribute food, but ultimately, you are leeches that are sucking out of the system more than you put into the system. If you can't figure out what to charge for your products, that's not our fault, but I don't see why we should be spending money that we need for education and our infrastructure so that you can leech off the system.
Also, you're welcome for our medical care and our education.
Not really. Good luck with that. We could easily import food from other countries.
And good luck, repairing your equipment, without parts that we produce, oil that we import and the educational establishments that we have. This whole idea that somehow rural folks have us over some sort of a barrel is just plain ridiculous.
Or, how about medicine? That's a product of the urban areas as well.
Might not want to say that too loudly. I'm in the middle of a major city and FTTH may never arrive. The local ISPs have yet to make anything resembling a firm promise for FTTH and 5mbps service is the best my neighborhood can get. As recently as a couple years ago, there were neighborhoods that weren't able get more than 1.5mbps service.
Then they can pay for it themselves. I don't understand why urban areas have to subsidize rural areas at the expense of our priorities. If they can't figure out how to make their lifestyle choices cost effective, then perhaps they need to learn how to be self reliant.
Easy, we ship the food in from overseas in exchange for things that we produce in urban areas. Or we use the railroads that are more cost effective anyways. Leaving the rural folks to actually pay their own way for the infrastructure that's primarily used by rural folks.
Honestly, this extreme level of arrogance and greed on the part of rural folks needs to stop. Service cuts disproportionately affect urban areas, even though urban tax payers contribute most of the money that pays for those services.
Not true.
The rich do not become rich by spending. Sure it probably is true that a larger portion of expenditures are subject to sales tax for the wealthy. But, ultimately, a smaller portion of their income is spent rather than invested.
And no, I don't give a rat's ass about them investing their money. Especially given that there's no guarantee that the investments will benefit me or other Americans. And their tax rates are lower than they are for people that are less well off.
Anybody paying for phone service pays for this subsidy via the USF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund
It's also worth noting that because of the way that the poverty level is calculated, people that are in urban areas don't qualify when they would be pretty well off in more rural areas, if they were making the same amount of money. Which makes subsidies to the poor at the federal level disproportionately favor the freeloading states over the states that actually contribute to the pot of money being used to provide the subsidies.
It's just a sync utility, it's not a backup or archive utility.
I haven't had any trouble with that, I don't have very many files or clients at the moment. And I've got all those files backed up already.
Keep in mind that it's presently pre-release software and bound to have bugs in it. But, AFAIK, it's the only one out there that doesn't require you to have an account with a 3rd party.
It drives cars back and forth over Tom Cruise?
Because they want pictures of under aged girls or to have sexual contact with underage girls. Just chatting with girls and boys in that fashion is creepy, but not generally illegal.
At least that's how it is in the US, I would presume that's somewhat similar in Spain.
Precisely. And at this point, you don't even need somebody to provide that service for you as BittorrentSync can do that for you.
I'll chalk this up to more evidence that we're in another tech bubble.