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Spanish Chatbot Hunts For Pedophiles

cylonlover writes "For a number of years now, police forces around the world have enlisted officers to pose as kids in online chat rooms, in an attempt to draw out pedophiles and track them down. Researchers at Spain's University of Deusto are now hoping to free those cops up for other duties, and to catch more offenders, via a chatbot that they've created. Its name is Negobot, and it plays the part of a 14 year-old girl." (Read the original source, in Spanish).

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  1. So they're breaking young boys hearts.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and the spanish girls will have to start being even more slutty to compete with the slutbots.

    1. Re:So they're breaking young boys hearts.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and the spanish girls will have to start being even more slutty to compete with the slutbots.

      But your honor, I was NOT engaging in pedophile behavior! See, I am really into sex bots! I KNEW it was a script and I get off on them!'

    2. Re:So they're breaking young boys hearts.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That brings up the biggest question. Does picking up on a chatbot count as an illegal activity, even if the pedophile believed it to be a 14 year old girl? I don't see how it could, since it's just a piece of software. No law was actually broken.

    3. Re:So they're breaking young boys hearts.. by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't know but as somebody who used to run a chatroom dedicated to fricking computer repair i can tell you that if the other chat rooms see/saw what i did what those cops are doing is bullshit and how it can't be entrapment? Fuck if I know. I know I ended up having to threaten harassment charges on a couple of cops to get them to finally STFU with that shit.

      I mean here I am,running a chat with such "sexy" titles as "Can't install graphics driver" and "Need help bad I keep BSODing" and while me and a couple of the mods would be trying to walk some poor guy that has been bashing his head against the wall trying to get something fixed and suddenly here would come one of those fuckheads, just spewing filthy shit trying to get somebody to talk to them. By the end there i was getting seriously fucking PISSED, cursing the assholes after pointing out for the hundredth time "This isn't that kind of chat asshole, go peddle your "catch a predator" bullshit somewhere else porky".

      So if the shit they are doing is the same as what i saw they can fuck right off, they push that shit even in places where it has no damned business and they will harass the hell out of guys to try to get them to talk, really sleazy shit too.

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    4. Re:So they're breaking young boys hearts.. by jythie · · Score: 1

      Given how fun it can be to bait bots as it is, I could actually see that. I used to get IM bots trying to get me to go see various cam sites and they were quite amusing to screw with.

    5. Re:So they're breaking young boys hearts.. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      No law was actually broken.

      I know nothing about Spanish law, but if it is anything like American law, then there is no requirement that a real child, or even a second person, be involved. If, while alone in a locked room, you are turned on by a drawing of some stick-figures that could be perceived as under-age children, then you are breaking the law.

    6. Re:So they're breaking young boys hearts.. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      Yes, but betcha I know how they will get around that: As the chatbot homes in a suspect, it will offer a Google Map link to a meeting place. Unbeknownst to the suspect, the "I am here" pointer on the image will be a special copyrighted version of the regular map pin. Bingo - much heavier penalties than for mere child rape.

  2. wonderful idea! by Tastecicles · · Score: 3, Funny

    What could possibly go wrong?

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    1. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      What happens if two chatbots start chatting each other up? Do they both get arrested?

    2. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What happens if two chatbots start chatting each other up? Do they both get arrested?

      Only if they send each other photos of their source code.

    3. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well... EU high level official's head will start to roll, that is for starters...

    4. Re:wonderful idea! by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      What could possibly go wrong?

      Are such questions on your mind often?

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    5. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What happens if two chatbots start chatting each other up? Do they both get arrested?

      Only if they send each other photos of their source code.

      Uncommented source code.

    6. Re:wonderful idea! by Tastecicles · · Score: 3, Insightful

      GOTO statements make me wet.

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    7. Re:wonderful idea! by syntheticmemory · · Score: 1

      What could possibly go wrong?

      Hal 6000 trained her.

    8. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assuming their version number is less than 18.

    9. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What happens if two chatbots start chatting each other up? Do they both get arrested?

      Only if they send each other photos of their source code.

      Uncommented source code.

      Only if the source code is still beta.

    10. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the taboo, isn't it?

    11. Re:wonderful idea! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      GOTO statements make me wet.

      Seize the opportunity, reprogram your sprinkler system in Haskell!

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    12. Re:wonderful idea! by Tastecicles · · Score: 2

      Giggity!

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    13. Re:wonderful idea! by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Pedantic point - It's HAL 9000.

      HAL 9000 was driven mad by the contradictory instructions from its management. There is a lesson for us all in there.

    14. Re:wonderful idea! by Megane · · Score: 2

      I think you mean if they send each other their raw repository dumps. gig-git-y

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    15. Re:wonderful idea! by operagost · · Score: 2

      Wait until you try Intercal's version.

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    16. Re:wonderful idea! by Beorytis · · Score: 2

      What happens if two chatbots start chatting each other up?

      Probably something like two Siris conversing, a.k.a. That howling void of thoughtlessness beneath .

    17. Re:wonderful idea! by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2

      What happens if two chatbots start chatting each other up? Do they both get arrested?

      One of my favorite "bots" was a reverse bot. It would troll on AIM, pretending to be a 16 yr old girl, usually very quickly getting a horny teen male. Then it would it a second time, netting a second horny teen male. Then it would pair them up, both assuming they're talking to a girl.. Then after some awkward teen male sexting (before it was a term) it wasn't too long until "FAGGGGG" was shouted and heterosexuality challenged.

      Then there's AOLiza. which hooked Eliza to AIM. Sadly, the chats have been taken down, some were pretty good.

    18. Re:wonderful idea! by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Someone posted AOLiza in the comments of the article. You can thank the Internet Archive:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20010223222122/http://fury.com/aoliza/

    19. Re:wonderful idea! by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From TFA:

      Should they start exhibiting “suspicious behavior,” such as not caring about the girl’s age or asking her for personal information

      "Suspicious behaviour" is defined as either: (A) Asking a girls' age or (B) not asking a girl's age.
      Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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    20. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      alpha, cuz we likes 'em young

    21. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens if two chatbots start chatting each other up? Do they both get arrested?

      Only if they send each other photos of their source code.

      You mean their naughty bits?

    22. Re:wonderful idea! by RMingin · · Score: 1

      And SAL 9000 back at Urbana was so upset by the news, she was willing to undergo significant risk to herself in order to help Dr. Chandra revive him.

      Yet, we are offtopic further still. Where will it end?

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    23. Re:wonderful idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if they send each other photos of their source code.

      And it is LOGO.

    24. Re:wonderful idea! by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      that is trainwreck tragic.

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    25. Re:wonderful idea! by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      QED.

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    26. Re:wonderful idea! by Hartree · · Score: 1

      "It's the taboo, isn't it?"

      I just love to feel the vibrations from Dykstra whirling in his grave.

    27. Re:wonderful idea! by tompaulco · · Score: 1
      The answer? Don't talk to anyone on the internet ever.

      Oops. Guess I should have posted anonymously.

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    28. Re:wonderful idea! by InsectOverlord · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if you consider a person's age personal information. Which depends on the chat room.

      It's been a long time since I last used IRC, but I do remember those channels where asking "asl please" was widely considered proper etiquette. Some chat rooms even expected you give your "asl" as you entered.

    29. Re:wonderful idea! by PNutts · · Score: 1

      And SAL 9000 back at Urbana was so upset by the news, she was willing to undergo significant risk to herself in order to help Dr. Chandra revive him.

      Yet, we are offtopic further still. Where will it end?

      In 3001 with Frank Poole.

    30. Re:wonderful idea! by PNutts · · Score: 1

      No, the answer is don't try to pick up underage girls.

    31. Re:wonderful idea! by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      No, the answer is don't try to pick up underage girls.

      How do you know they are underage? If you ask, you are a suspicious person. If you don't ask, you are a suspicious person.

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  3. What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    eof

    1. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by Thanshin · · Score: 3, Funny

      http://translate.google.com/

      Let me present you this new technology. It's called "The Internet". You can use it to look for answers to all your questions*.

      *: For a fully immersive experience, all your questions should start with "nude pics of "

    2. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      *: For a fully incarcerated experience, all your questions should start with "nude pics of "

      Given the topic, FTFY.

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    3. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Your "definition" completely excludes anything resembling pantheism, which basically means you "definiton" excludes most of the world's religion.

      Obviously, pantyism revolvers around worshipping something completely else.

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    4. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by operagost · · Score: 1

      Yeah... a Christian fundamentalist is going to complain about pantheism not being respected. Definitely.

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    5. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by AliasBackslash · · Score: 2

      "Because water falls haha"
      I can't imagine what the question that prompted that answer was and given the topic I'm not sure I want to know.
      The previous chat line just says "Know why it seems that way?"

    6. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      google says because water falls - is someone taking the piss?

    7. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by sageres · · Score: 1

      This technology does not do good enough translation because the output is a gibberish. Someone who is a native Spanish speaker would be able to tell exactly what "because water falls "jaja"" means. Direct and indirect meanings, whatever it might mean.
      1. The speaker could be talking about a waterfall
      2. The speaker could be talking about a play
      3. The speaker could be hinting on something sexual.

      In this small context we do not know, especially since "jaja" is not in a standard dictionary but most likely is a cultural reference, and pneumatically we can only guess what it means. (btw, could it be jojo and the guy than saying that water falls up and down?)
      and yes I agree with the poster above -- you are being a troll here.

    8. Re: What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jajajajajajaja XDDDDDD

    9. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Even Google Translate knows that "jaja" is "haha." I think we can safely assume that the phrase, taken out of context, is someone giving the punchline to a joke.

    10. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by 1s44c · · Score: 0

      Yeah... a Christian fundamentalist is going to complain about pantheism not being respected. Definitely.

      What's all this holy trinity stuff about then? And why do they on on about Jesus all the time and rarely about god?

      Actually don't waste your time answering because I don't care.

    11. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1: There seems to be raining?
      2: Do you know why does it seems that way?
      1: Because it is falling water, haha

    12. Re:What does "porque cae agua jaja" mean? by John+Bokma · · Score: 1

      jaja = the sound of laughter. Depending on the context it could be replaced for example with ;-) or ;-D or :-D or LOL etc.

  4. 3 laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you are a robot you have to tell me...

  5. Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Tanuki64 · · Score: 3

    ...which passes the Turing test.

    1. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      LOL, a Turing test designed to persecute people for expressing their socially unacceptable sexuality? Alan would have a fit.

    2. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well there's the problem. Most 14 year olds don't pass the Turing test.

    3. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not to mention the fact that a 14 year old girl would have absolutely no chance of passing the Turing test.

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    4. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Cenan · · Score: 1

      Technically, they're trying to prosecute people living out their socially unacceptable sexuality. Though, instead of wasting resources doing that, why not just market the damn thing to lonely pedophiles instead, they can chat up 14 year old digital girls, and our kids won't have to be bothered by it, win-win.

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    5. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by xaxa · · Score: 4, Informative

      I knew I'd read somewhere about Spain's age of consent being 12.

      It turns out they raised it to 16 just a few weeks ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10089339/Spain-to-raise-age-of-consent-from-13-to-16.html

      Hopefully they'll be more careful about the law than is the case in the UK -- where the age of consent is 16, but the official guidance to the police is not to worry about consensual relationships between similarly-aged teenagers below that. It's better to have that in the law, like in Germany (where, AIUI, lower ages are permitted so long as there's not too much age difference).

    6. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by operagost · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that would work. There are already Japanese dating games, but we still have pedos.

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    7. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have long suspected that the internet is itself the most thorough Turing test ever conceived.

    8. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Nimey · · Score: 0

      /thread

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    9. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by sootman · · Score: 1

      It's actually not that great. It just says 'OMG' and then like 15 emoji.

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    10. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

      ...which passes the Turing test.

      Maybe for the purposes of these bots it should be referred to as the "Cruising" test.

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    11. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically, they're trying to prosecute people living out their socially unacceptable sexuality. Though, instead of wasting resources doing that, why not just market the damn thing to lonely pedophiles instead, they can chat up 14 year old digital girls, and our kids won't have to be bothered by it, win-win.

      You can't molest the AI, kind of defeats the point of grooming a kid for sex if there is no sex to be had.

    12. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Because they want pictures of under aged girls or to have sexual contact with underage girls. Just chatting with girls and boys in that fashion is creepy, but not generally illegal.

        At least that's how it is in the US, I would presume that's somewhat similar in Spain.

    13. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by hedwards · · Score: 1

      It drives cars back and forth over Tom Cruise?

    14. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turing was gay, not a paedophile. I don't think being gay would mean he would have a problem with this.

    15. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are already Japanese dating games, but we still have pedos.

      But they're the ones who tell everyone 2D>3D, so it's simply a matter of convincing people of that.

    16. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Damnshock · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's still 13 legally. What you are refering is a proposal to change it.

      If aproved, it can show up curious situations when you can legallyl get married at the age of 12 and you won't be able to have sex until you are 16? (in case you married an older and adult partner)

    17. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This making it even more bizarre that this bot would pretend to be above Spain's legal age of consent. What am I missing?

      Everything about this story is wrong:

      • The notion that being attracted to a 14-year-old girl (almost invariably post-pubescent) qualifies as pedophilia is completely absurd. There is not a straight adult male alive who, when faced with a sufficiently attractive and mature-looking 14-year-old, would not find her attractive. Thus, some degree of attraction to teenagers is normal male behavior. Mind you, most adults have the good sense not to jump in bed with them, but that doesn't mean the attraction isn't there. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding himself/herself.
      • A bot (or a LEO) seeking out people and enticing them in the hopes that one of them will say "Okay, she's hot and worth the risk of jail" is a legally dubious action and is completely contrary to the stated goal of protecting kids. I'd wager that 99.999% of the people entrapped by such a bot would never go near any true kids (defined as pre-pubescent), period, because there is zero correlation between being attracted to teens and being attracted to kids. And most of those folks would not go out of their way to hit on a 14-year-old IRL, either. Given that most 14-year-old girls do not make it a point to trick adult males into having sex with them, this means that those adult males are doing something that they almost certainly (statistically) would not otherwise have done were it not for law enforcement involvement, which meets the strictest definition of entrapment as far as I can tell. But creating such a bot in a country when the act they're trolling for isn't even illegal? Priceless.

      I mean, this whole concept borders on the same level of s**t-for-brains stupid as those people who troll boards trying to stir people up to become terrorists and then put them in jail under the premise that if law enforcement could get them into that state, so could real terrorists. But the thing is, unless those real terrorists had a high probability of doing so, you're really just putting people in jail for being gullible, not for actually harboring any terrorist tendencies.

      At this point, our world is rapidly verging on jailing people for thoughtcrime—crimethink, if you will. Are we really to the point where the goal is to lock up everyone who isn't of above-average intelligence with near-godlike self control? Is that actually supposed to make our kids safer in some bizarro universe? Could someone please explain to me why the people who came up with this bot should not be jailed themselves as an example to others who would abuse their power?

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    18. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by girlintraining · · Score: 2

      Not to mention the fact that a 14 year old girl would have absolutely no chance of passing the Turing test.

      The problem though is that pedophiles are experienced and know how to evade traps. They're like cochroaches -- for every one you find, there's fifty more you don't. And considering that western society likes to lock these people up and let them be raped and murdered, instead of studying what the glitch in their wetware is to devise a treatment, or treating their prisoners with compassion... there is a major incentive to not come forward if you're one of the afflicted... and being so afflicted... still more incentive to act out on the impulses.

      A pedophile is therefore completely devoted to the task at hand. They will find out how to detect chat bots, and quickly too. Ask about personal history, how they feel about family members... things that a database of responses and algorithms can't simply create on demand and be believable. Most of our brains are devoted to social interaction -- trying to fool it is a frustratingly complex task.

      You may catch the 'weak' ones, the low hanging fruit... but all you've done then is strengthen the remaining community... just like overuse of antibiotics. If bacteria can evolve, so can people. This chatbot is a novel approach... but it won't fix the problem. The only thing that'll fix the problem, is fixing the people with the problem -- by figuring out what causes pedophilia, and treating it.

      And while we're at it, it might not be a bad idea to start treating our prisoners and mentally ill (largely the same group, if you look at the numbers) with compassion instead of clinging to primitive caveman ethics about needing vengance and going on at length about morality. At the end of the day... if you can't stomach killing people yourself, then you need to figure out how to live with them. And if you can stomach it... you may belong in with them, instead of out here with the rest of us.

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    19. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Anyone who says otherwise ...

      The current attitude towards 14 year-old girls requires massive double-think by all adults. Your honest simplicity requires that you report to the Ministry of Love for re-education.

      ... jailing people for thought-crime ...

      There is a web-site with an image of full-frontal nudity of 10 year-old Brooke Shields (from 'Pretty baby') and sexual comments on it. The internet is very much a "build it and they will come" experience. How that affects real-life it is difficult to know. It is much easier to scream "think of the children" and justify anything to make the problem 'disappear'.

    20. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No +5 Insightful for your regular drivel? Did all the other staff go home already? I'm going to imagine you are Cliff Clavin to get some amusement from, your posts.

    21. Re:Hey, great.... finally an AI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are two other solutions.

      1/ delegalize the children
      2/ delegalize the very idea of controlling human sexuality by law enforcement and move this subject to the civil law. If someone feels harmed by sexual activity, let him/her sue.

      Both ideas are radical. But as the very concept of "children" is quite new social construct, unknown in medieval Europe for example, 1. would be nice, also removing this stupid "kid culture" from our civilization.

  6. Double edged sword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if others create bots posing as pedophiles? Can anyone be prosecuted for doing so?
    The real ones would then disappear in the noise.

    Such police bots cannot catch bad guys, just will direct them to other places where is is harder to catch them.

    Vajk

    1. Re:Double edged sword by Cenan · · Score: 1

      I'm sure the reverse engineering effort will be under way shortly, filling up kiddy pron hangouts with lists of phrases to throw at the bots to verify that it's a bot. Compared to actual hackers, kiddy wankers seem to be alot more concious about their own security.

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    2. Re:Double edged sword by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      If they make the bot good enough it'll become too hard to tell a kid from a bot with enough certainty for a pedo to be sure they're not walking into a police trap by meeting with the kid...in which case, mission accomplished.

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  7. Robot/robot match by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's going to be very interesting to watch the pedophile robots chat with the girl robots. Wait, this is not the first time I've seen poetry written that way.

  8. Oh great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Man.. this bot is going to get laid more than I do, and it's specifically designed to NOT get laid..

    1. Re:Oh great... by DarkRat · · Score: 3, Funny

      so are you ;)

  9. Great work, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    unfortunately, in Spain the "undercover agent" is illegal. So, either this bot created at Deusto University (my university, btw) or Flu Ad are great projects that can not be used by Spanish police.

    Flu AD is an open source Trojan software designed to infect computers used by pedophiles. It succeeded at least in one case in South America (I don't have the details) and have been studied by Spanish police.
    More on Flu AD:
    - http://www.slideshare.net/rootedcon/juan-a-calles-y-pablo-gonzlez-metasploit-fluad-avoiding-avs-with-payloadsdlls-injection-rooted-con-2013
    - http://www.flu-project.com/

    At the same time, Spanish goverment has a project to legalize Trojans in the investigation of serious criminal cases.

    regards,

  10. Re: Liar! by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

    Unless doing so would harm you, or cause harm to come to you.

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  11. Where can I get one of these 14 y.o bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where can I get one of these 14 y.o bots?

    For scientific purposes, I assure you.

    (Is it illegal to write a chatbot that simulates a 14 y.o?)

    1. Re:Where can I get one of these 14 y.o bots? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      (Is it illegal to write a chatbot that simulates a 14 y.o?)

      Some countries already have laws about animated stuff and written erotic fiction...

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    2. Re:Where can I get one of these 14 y.o bots? by davidwr · · Score: 1

      Some countries already have laws about animated stuff and written erotic fiction...

      Yes. For example, the United States has a basic law that, according to the courts, say such things are legal unless they are actually obscene (a work doesn't have to portray under-aged characters to be obscene).

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    3. Re:Where can I get one of these 14 y.o bots? by AliasBackslash · · Score: 1

      But what is the legal definition of "obscene"?

  12. 14 years would be legal age in Germany.... by yooy · · Score: 5, Informative

    14 years would be legal age in Germany.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe And if I can trust the link, it is 13 in Spain...

    1. Re:14 years would be legal age in Germany.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to that link, 14 can be legal in Spain too.

      "The ages of consent vary by jurisdiction across Europe. Spain (age 13) has the lowest age limit, while Malta and Turkey are at the highest end (both age 18)."

    2. Re:14 years would be legal age in Germany.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is an explicit mention of "taking advantage of an exploitative situation", which includes predators using online seduction (and pretty much anything that the minor would complain about). "Legal age", in this case, does not mean a sexual predator wouldn't face jail when caught chatting up a kid online.

    3. Re:14 years would be legal age in Germany.... by yooy · · Score: 1

      Online "seduction" would not be "taking advantage of an exploitative situation". This limitation is more for teacher pupil relationship and other situations were is a significant power discrepancy (not cause by age difference alone).

    4. Re:14 years would be legal age in Germany.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But not for distributing any photo or similar, even with their acceptance and knowledge is illegal until 18+

  13. 14 year old? by Zedrick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How will the bot catch pedophiles if it pretends to be a 14 year old girls? Pedophiles won't be very interested, instead it might, in best/worst case, attract hebephiles. Or just normal teenage boys.

    1. Re:14 year old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if pedophiles write a bot that seduces the spanish police bot and gets it arrested? Huh? HUH?!

    2. Re:14 year old? by bestalexguy · · Score: 1

      How will the bot catch pedophiles if it pretends to be a 14 year old girls? Pedophiles won't be very interested, instead it might, in best/worst case, attract hebephiles. Or just normal teenage boys.

      Or mature rock guitar players, in which case the bot's mother would likely have any charge dropped.

    3. Re:14 year old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems from the looks of it,

      ( -_-)>0-0
      (o_o) ..he needs a new G string.
      YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

    4. Re:14 year old? by richlv · · Score: 1

      thanks for mentioning this - there are too many evil and stupid people crying out "think of the children" and throwing around 'paedophilia'... when it's totally wrong.

      for those who have missed it, paedophilia is being sexually attracted to prepubescent humans. for example, that's small girls who haven't even show a sign of breasts appearing (not sure about boys... boy choirs might fit, as they want boys with "undamaged" voices).

      so 14 is at least a couple of years too late in most cases...

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    5. Re:14 year old? by PNutts · · Score: 1

      hebephiles

      Every time I see that word I think of Shemp.

    6. Re:14 year old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thanks for mentioning this - there are too many evil and stupid people crying out "think of the children" and throwing around 'paedophilia'... when it's totally wrong.

      From wiki (emphasis mine)
      In research environments, specific terms are used for chronophilias: for instance, ephebophilia to refer to the sexual preference for mid-to-late adolescents,[1] hebephilia to refer to the sexual preference for earlier pubescent individuals, and pedophilia to refer to the sexual preference for prepubescent children.[5] However, the term pedophilia is commonly used to refer to any sexual interest in minors below the legal age of consent, regardless of their level of physical, mental, or psychological development.[6]

    7. Re:14 year old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hebephiles are attracted to boys. you think of parthenophiles

    8. Re:14 year old? by richlv · · Score: 1

      thanks for mentioning that, hadn't spotted it.

      but... that's so wrong. lumping interest in prepubescent children in the same group as interest in 17 year old girls ? that must be a mental illness of it's own...

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  14. Spain? by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Age of consent in Spain is 13 though they plan to raise it. Seems like a 14 year old is an odd choice to emulate for that reason.

    That said, an AI capable of simulating a 14 year old girl? Hard to imagine they could even simulate a 5 year old successfully. This doesn't seem like a good use of a universities resources.

    1. Re:Spain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The law needs to reflect our unwritten social code. a 13 year old and a 15 year old, that's probably reasonable by our social code. A 13 and a 39 year old, totally unacceptable. How about 15 and 18? That's illegal in nearly all of the US for example, but it happens pretty often.

      In response to a vocal minority that believes that no one should have sex before they are 18. I guess you can try to shelter your children through their teenage years, but part of adolescence is about learning to make decisions and accept the consequences themselves. (not that adults are making good decisions or are behaving in a mature responsible manner. but they do bear the responsibily for their decisions, mostly. although that is probably going away in the future)

    2. Re:Spain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Puberty is natures way of telling you that you are ready for sex.

    3. Re:Spain? by Rhacman · · Score: 1

      Being made of meat is natures way of telling predators that you are ready to be eaten.

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    4. Re:Spain? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      That said, an AI capable of simulating a 14 year old girl? Hard to imagine they could even simulate a 5 year old successfully. This doesn't seem like a good use of a universities resources.

      Yes, a 14 year old girl at what time of day and what day of the week and which week of the month? If you can show me a 14 year old girl that acts the same for more than 20 minutes, then I might believe they could come up with an AI for one.

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    5. Re:Spain? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      part of adolescence is about learning to make decisions and accept the consequences themselves.

      That is true, but in this case, the consequences are pretty heavily borne out by the parents who told them to abstain from sexual relations, as well as the society that told them to do the same thing. If we were to completely leave the entire responsibility for their actions upon the youths, then certainly we would have no place to tell them what to do. Since we pay the cost, we get to make the rules.

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  15. Re:Meh by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pity only a small fraction of pedophiles are out looking on the internet. That and the fact that if the penalties are higher, people will do more to hide their crimes, like instead of threatening their victims, they'll lock them up in a basement, or fit them with some cement shoes for a quick dip in the local river.

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  16. Where men are men, women are men and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    14 year old girls are chat bots? The times, they are a changing.

  17. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then later on you find that they were wrongly accused.

  18. Got it! by psholty2 · · Score: 0

    13 year old girl - FBI
    14 year old girl - Spanish inquisition, I mean police.

  19. a/s/l? by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    version/language/repository?

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    1. Re:a/s/l? by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Assembler/Script/Language?

      Ok, it's not funny but I tried.

    2. Re:a/s/l? by Calydor · · Score: 1

      About/Settings/LAN?

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    3. Re:a/s/l? by Nimey · · Score: 1

      1.03rc1/Brainfuck/RCS

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  20. Next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next: Pedophiles will educate themselves about Turing tests, in order to defeat the chatbots.

    Next: Anyone who informs himself about Turing tests will become suspect of being pedophile.

  21. Re:Meh by Sparticus789 · · Score: 1

    Did someone watch Death Race last night?

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  22. Only usable in some jurisdictions by johanw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Fortunately, entrapment is illegal in a lot of countries. And "intent" is not always what counts. I read that that in The Netherlands someone who was having sexually oriented chats with a police officer posing as a child was cleared in court. The judge said that because the police officer was over 18 he did nothing illegal, and that he may have intended something illegal didn't make it so.

    To make the car comparison: if I intend to drive too fast and believe I do so dus to a defective meter but in fact I am driving at a legal speed I can't get a ticket.

    1. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Xest · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is what I was wondering, doesn't this sort of thing risk giving real criminals an excuse too?

      If intent is relevant then with the prevalence of police officers posing in this manner and now bots, couldn't a real criminal just claim "I assumed nowadays that they were all just chatbots or above age of consent officers" if caught chatting to someone who is underage?

      It seems to be a dangerous precedent to set. If the police have to prove intent how can they prove he didn't now believe it was a bot or an officer and hence not illegal?

    2. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by operagost · · Score: 1

      In the USA, it would only be entrapment if the bot brings up the topic of sex on its own.

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    3. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine being arrested for pranking a "14 year old girl on the internet" (who you knew must be an older male), even labelled "phedophile", losing your job and outcast from society for the rest of your miserable life? I'm sure posing as someone else on the internet is as old as the internet, but attaching crime to such behaviour?

      This is why you limit power, thus restricting stupid people from releasing more stupidity on the world.

      From the article: If the person doesn’t appear to be interested in talking to the chatbot, it gets more insistent about having a conversation, by introducing topics that will hopefully capture their attention.

      This is called entrapment, and is illegal.
      Chatting with a person of consentful age or a bot is not a crime either.

      This is about as useful as the Spanish Inquisition!

      What happened to warning and educating our children against such encounters?
      Also, it seems government should be educated in how the internet actually works, and how authenticity is usually not a guarantee in chatrooms.

    4. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well it's very simple:

      Chatting with someone younger than you, even in a sexual manner, shouldn't be a fucking crime.

    5. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by mark-t · · Score: 1

      While intending to break the law without actually breaking it may be legal, the lack of any intention to break the law does not typically excuse one from actually breaking it.

    6. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

      It depends on the type of law. Driving offences are generally "Strict liability" crimes, requiring only the act (actus reus.) But many offences also require intent (mens rea), usually defined in the original law. Ie, robbery might be defined as "taking property with intent to deprive the rightful owner", and both act and intent must be proved.

      Of course, in practice...

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    7. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by AliasBackslash · · Score: 1

      If the person doesn’t appear to be interested in talking to the chatbot, it gets more insistent about having a conversation

      The above quote from the article is what makes me curious if it could be considered entrapment. If the person doesn't seem interested, the bot gets more persistent and will start bringing up topics that might "peak the chatter's interest."

    8. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by AliasBackslash · · Score: 1

      AC posts! Stranger Danger!

      In all seriousness though, I do entirely agree with this comment. The widespread education via parents, schools, even advertisements warning of these things just doesn't seem to exist anymore. Seeing how with the internet and other tech advances, these dangers have only grown, it seems odd that we are no longer teaching the children how to recognize and avoid these situations.

    9. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uh, no. The standard in most states is would a normally law-abiding person be induced to commit the crime in the same situation. Do you think regular law abiding person would send pictures of themselves masturbating or show up at some kids house for a sexual rendezvous when her parents are away just because the person they thought was a kid brought up sex and engaged them in a sexual conversation? Would you do so, even if a kid begged you?

    10. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ie, robbery might be defined as "taking property with intent to deprive the rightful owner", and both act and intent must be proved.

      As compared to possession of stolen property where intent is not considered.

    11. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Chatting with a person of consentful age or a bot is not a crime either.

      But for quite some time, the bot will not reach the age of consent. :-)

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    12. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      That's what I always wondered about when they arrest guys for soliciting for prostitution when in fact they did not actually solicit a prostitute, but a police officer who had no intention of accepting money for sex. The intent to commit a crime may have been there, but a crime was not committed. Well, I guess the police officer technically committed a crime of false advertisement.

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    13. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it seems odd that we are no longer teaching the children how to recognize and avoid these situations.

      Stop blaming the victims!

    14. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      I know this was probably posted sarcastically, but it's a difficult path to walk. On one side you have rape-culture feminists saying "don't tell me how to dress, teach your sons not to rape" and on the other side you have the police and others trying to give advice on risk minimisation such as "don't dress like a slut".

      I think the answer is somewhere in between.

      A friend of mine recently blogged how she trained in martial arts, dresses conservatively if out at night and engages in other risk minimisation behaviours, but worries that while it makes her safer, it potentially just means the hypothetical attacker, if out on the prowl, may simply go for another, 'tastier' snack. She feels guilty that while she may be safer, she has made someone else less safe by comparison.

      We definitely need to teach our children that 'no means no' and that they don't have the right to force themselves on an unwilling partner. But while that message is sinking in, we need to teach them to consider the risks in how they behave.

      Children and adolescents are especially at risk because they still haven't formed the ability to assess risk and make judgements as to their own safety. In some ways it's easier to protect very young children than it is to protect teens, who will be trying to prove their own individuality while feeling immortal.

      TL:DR it's complex and something we really should treat as a joke.

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    15. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes for example accidentally taking other person valet instead of yours, you did steal it but you did not plan to do it, it was accidental

    16. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Xest · · Score: 1

      Whilst in the past I'd agree, I don't think that's true anymore, in fact here in some of the UK some of the laws specifically require intent and intent is in the very title of the charge when charged.

      "Intending to incite racial hatred" for example.

      If the crime is in itself a crime of intention then the onus on the police is to prove intent.

      Of course it makes more sense to just remove such laws full stop, but there you go.

    17. Re:Only usable in some jurisdictions by Xest · · Score: 1

      That's actually the way it works. If for example you drive off from a petrol station without paying the police would have to prove you did so intentionally and that it wasn't just an honest mistake.

      This is to prevent people's lives being ruined for nothing more than a moment of forgetfulness.

      It's also to avoid entrapment situations, i.e. neighbour A Lends neighbour B his lawnmower than tells the police that neighbour B stole it. The police have to prove he never intended to give it back which they could do if he'd put an ad in the local paper to sell it on for example, but couldn't if he had no intention to permanently deprive A of it and A was just causing shit.

  23. Wait a minute... by saturnianjourneyman · · Score: 1

    I thought 14 was the age of consent in Spain. Juanita... come in here. I have to ask you something...

  24. Re:Meh by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

    I think the pedo laws are completely out of hand, but the idea that severe penalties will cause molesters to kill their victims is bogus. The kind of person who murders is already sociopathic enough that any amount of penalty is going to be enough to justify murdering their victim. Even if there was absolutely no legal penalty they would still have to worry about parents going vigilante on them.

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  25. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or Running Man

  26. This story is full of LOL by 1s44c · · Score: 1

    Just wait until these slut-bots start falling to buffer overflows, SQL or shell injection attacks, or whatever.

  27. Re:Meh by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

    Pity that people attracted to 14 year olds are not pedodophiles, and they think they will catch pedophiles like this.

  28. Should of called it "Joshua"! by SGDarkKnight · · Score: 2

    Shall we play a game?

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    1. Re:Should of called it "Joshua"! by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Shall we play a game?

      "What a strange game, the only winning move is not to play." - Or something like that, it's been a while since I saw that film.

    2. Re:Should of called it "Joshua"! by chromas · · Score: 1

      You got a lot closer than Tron: Legacy did.

  29. Re:Meh by 1s44c · · Score: 1

    This suffers from the usual problems. You need something like a balanced court process to be really sure the person you find really is guilty, and that means letting some 80% sure cases walk free. Also you can't make amends if you find out you killed the wrong person.

  30. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you know this how...? Oh, you're a bot too! Clever!

  31. Robots are sexy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if we use the same tactics for prostitution...? (rather than an undercover cop acting as a hooker, put a robot)

    I really don't get it. I mean, let's end the pedo-war once and for all, if possible, but I see it as something that isn't possible. Pedophiles have been around for a long time, and many simply lie in wait, if ever acting on the impulse anyway.

    When I was 14, I'd have been all about chatting-to-fuck some older ladies. However, since I was 14 when the internet was non-existent, I stuck with fantasizing about my friends' moms'. Had I the internet, I'd have been all about hooking up with older chicks.

    ...oh wait, this is about 14 yo girls.

    1. Re:Robots are sexy? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      So if we use the same tactics for prostitution...? (rather than an undercover cop acting as a hooker, put a robot)

      You bet your ass it'll happen when they get cheap and realistic enough. Hey maybe when there are "fully-featured" fembots they'll actually let the john go through with the act and wait until he hands over the money to call in the raid so the case will be bulletproof.

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    2. Re:Robots are sexy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if we use the same tactics for prostitution...? (rather than an undercover cop acting as a hooker, put a robot)

      You bet your ass it'll happen when they get cheap and realistic enough. Hey maybe when there are "fully-featured" fembots they'll actually let the john go through with the act and wait until he hands over the money to call in the raid so the case will be bulletproof.

      From Hard Eight:
      "You know the first thing they should've taught you at hooker school? You get the money up front!"

    3. Re:Robots are sexy? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      And then they decide to legalize prostitution with robots. Before you know it - since all the first bots were owned by the police, the police themselves are entrenched in the business of prostitution with no way out.

    4. Re:Robots are sexy? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      And then they decide to legalize prostitution with robots.

      And why would they need to do that? It's not like "prostitution" is defined in such a way as to include "sex with a machine".

      Using a fembot as a prostitution sting is pointless, since it's not illegal to hand money to a robot after banging it. Any more than it is illegal to bang the robot in the first place.

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  32. As it should be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Since biologically we're programmed to want sex at 12/13 (when puberty kicks in), this 'fear of sex' is a religious thing more than anything.

    Florida has been arresting 14 year olds for sexting their 14 year old boyfriends, IMHO, the NSA should stop spying on 14 years old sexting each other and its a perfectly normal part of growing up to be interested in sex. No more than 'I'll show you mine if you show me yours".

  33. website name by andrewa · · Score: 1

    for a moment there i mispronounced the name of the magazine as "jizzmag" and thought that it was rather inappropriate....

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  34. Spanish Police APB by rlp · · Score: 2

    Spanish police have an APB out for suspects named 'Eliza', 'Perry', and 'A.L.I.C.E.'

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  35. 13 year olds are not chatbots? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    âoeChatbots tend to be very predictable. Their behavior and interest in a conversation are flat, which is a problem when attempting to detect untrustworthy targets like pedophilesâ

    Maybe I am a bit jaded from recent experience but...

    After spending some time this weekend trying to play an online video game with a relative of that age, I have trouble seeing the problem. Trying to explain to him how what he was doing in game was ruining the fun for my wife and I reminded me quite a bit of talking to a chatbot (it was every bit as effective)

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    1. Re:13 year olds are not chatbots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trying to explain to him how what he was doing in game was ruining the fun for my wife and I

      Seriously?

      BWAHAHAHAH!

    2. Re:13 year olds are not chatbots? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Yes seriously lol. Ok so my wife and I started playing Terreria, and he saw us on and wanted to join, so he came in, gave us a bunch of end game level equipment and was like "lets go fight bosses".

      I was unable to impress upon him how, while running around with powerful end game equipment was fun for a bit, it wasn't really what we wanted to do.... its not really an adventure if the story starts with some character swooping in and handing the hero everything he needs; including the dragons head on a platter.

      Don't get me wrong, I totally understand why he would think what we were doing was boring but, he didn't seem to get that it wasn't boring for us, as new players to the game. Trying to explain it was just painful.

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    3. Re:13 year olds are not chatbots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol

      BWAHAHAHAH!

      playing Terreria

      BWAHAHAHAH!

    4. Re:13 year olds are not chatbots? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Well after spending the past few weeks playing Dwarf Fortress, I trust you can understand why terreria looked fun :)

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  36. Welcome to the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are AIs run by FBI agents.

  37. If it's posing as a 14 year old, by middlehead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it's posing as a 14 year old, they're not targeting pedophiles.

  38. Re: Meh by pla · · Score: 1

    And you know this how...?

    Because he has a grasp of the English language that extends beyond calling every gun an "assault rifle", every worthless punk a "terrorist", every deadbeat a "victim of poor credit", and everyone who disagrees with him "faaaaaags"?

    Going after 14YOs would make someone an ephebophile, not a pedo.

    / Read a book!

  39. Where's the victim? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who's the victim in this?

    Or do automated programs now constitute as people?

  40. What could go wrong? by Reliable+Windmill · · Score: 1

    In the U.S they are sending in the SWAT to break down doors and raid homes based on the opinion of a dog, and in Spain they now want to leave this detail to a chat-bot. What could go wrong?

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    1. Re:What could go wrong? by moeinvt · · Score: 1

      FYI, in Florida v. Jardines, the SCOTUS ruled that having a dog sniff around the outside of a house is an illegal search i.e. the dog's opinion cannot be treated as "probable cause" and cannot be used as evidence for the purpose of getting a search warrant.

      http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/11-564

      Unfortunately, in Kentucky v. King they ruled that if the cops smell weed and, after announcing their presence, hear sounds of you "destroying evidence", they can kick down your door.

  41. Provides the perfect excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But officer, I thought that 14-year-old girl was a bot, I just looovveeee hot conversations with bots that pretend to be 14 year old girls!

  42. pedodophiles ?? by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Horny men looking for sex with underage extinct birds are all over the Internet, right?

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    1. Re:pedodophiles ?? by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

      Yes. Better keep a close watch on your replica taxidermied dodo.

  43. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    assuming that the actual, if-not-for-a-sting, molestation would have ever actually happened. intent != committing. fuck, i hate to defend them, but c'mon man.
    then we have the fact, that if we start killing pedos, it just ups the rate of them permanently silencing their victims as to not get caught. i guess you'd rather have a dead kid than a molested one.

  44. That might be legal in Spain by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Capital punishment for sex crimes that don't kill the victim is illegal in the United States.

    However, in the country that brought you The Spanish Inquisition, this might just fly....

    Obligatory question: Which head to chop off first?

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  45. Not hard by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Man.. this bot is going to get laid more than I do

    What's the smallest whole number greater than zero?

    PS: I think your statement applies to most /. readers.

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  46. mission self-defeating by davidwr · · Score: 2

    "If they make the bot good enough it'll become too hard to tell a bot from a kid with enough certainty for a botophile to be sure they are not chatting with an actual 14 year old, in which case the poor botophile will be arrested for doing something he had no intention of doing, namely, chatting up an underaged human being."

    There, fixed that for you.

    Botophile: Someone who loves to get it on with bots.

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  47. Re: Liar! by Qzukk · · Score: 1

    Or you're in the Time of Eve cafe and everyone is ordered to act human and treat everyone as human.

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  48. Convincing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lg: I ARE LITTLE GIRL

    pedo: what?

    lg: U WANT CHAT

    pedo: what?

    lg: TELL ME MORE ABOUT what?.

  49. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then later on you find that they were wrongly accused.

    Bad argument because it applies to ANY and ALL types of punishment.

    Using the "logic" of that argument, it would be impossible to punish anyone for any crime.

  50. Legal definition of obscene by davidwr · · Score: 1

    In the United States, the Miller Test applies.

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  51. racist? by Pharoah_69 · · Score: 0

    Its name is Negobot.

    Isn't that racist?

  52. Repeat from 2004? by DaTroof · · Score: 1

    I have a bad feeling tech journalism forgot all the lessons they should have learned from the Nanniebot hoax.

  53. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then later on you find that they were wrongly accused.

    Bad argument because it applies to ANY and ALL types of punishment.

    Using the "logic" of that argument, it would be impossible to punish anyone for any crime.

    I have to disagree. There's no way you can un-behead someone. You can at least release them from jail and try to restore some sort of normalcy to their lives.

  54. Re:Meh by PNutts · · Score: 1

    Or iCarly? Oops, wrong chat.