Yep, reality is the US compares to some of the most war-torn and violent places on the planet. Yay! It's only the 14th worst country for gun homicides.
Killing sprees are not a function of gun ownership. Killing sprees are a function of other factors like poor treatment of mental health issues, or brutal, hopeless oppression. Gun violence is a function of gun ownership. You need to look at the overall violence. And besides, are you talking about killing sprees, or just the killing sprees that you have personally heard of?
Note the false equivalence in your post. Religious right = extreme left. You have to look to the farthest fringes of the left to find what is routine among the establishment right-wing. That isn't an equivalence.
I'm not even sure what you're arguing about, I was reading a bunch of posts about banning guns before I came across this.
The whole point of a gun is that it can easily kill. It isn't much of a deterrent if it can't do that. So yes, they are made to kill. Parent didn't say anything about murder, that depends on the intent of the user. They can just as easily be used to murder as to defend.
I agree with the parent. Guns make murder too easy. And as numbers from every civilized country has shown, less guns = less gun violence.
To those who argue that the real way to reduce gun violence is more guns in the hands of gun defenders, I ask: why isn't this already so? The US is the most heavily armed and heavily defended society on earth, so why are we so goddamn bad at deterring gun violence? Clearly, it isn't working, we're just escalating the violence level.
No, but it is still much easier to slaughter small children in a classroom than it is to slaughter theater-goers in a darkened theater. Apples and oranges.
Actually, most are obtained legally, but that doesn't detract from your point, which is far more accurate than the parent. That as any civilized country can demonstrate, less gun availability means less gun violence. That's just basic common sense. The people that are arguing that we need to arm everybody are insane.
Um, not in the Adam Lanza way. We also need to start treating mental health issues seriously in this country, so that guys like him get the help they need before stuff like this happens.
And please explain how you intend to protect yourself from crazy laws with guns? Do you really believe an armed rebellion to overthrow the government is even feasible?
And how often exactly does this sort of thing occur, where a cop retaliates against someone who reports him, and their family, and their dog? Or does this only exist in your imagination?
More importantly, what will the world do to stop this aggressive power from it's nuclear ambitions that are obviously in violation of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty?
Oh wait I thought we were talking about Iran here.
Each of us only has one, two, or maybe three (if we're lucky) options to choose from, does it really matter if some ISP that doesn't serve my area is faster than the ones available to me?
They can print using simulated materials now? Forget nanomachines, it's only a matter of time before we turn the planet in to a macro-scale grey goo made out of 3D printers!
Yeah they made all this Donald Trump-style hype about it and then it turned out they had jumped the gun and it wasn't true. I get the feeling that's what this is.
I seem to remember this happening recently, once or twice. The candidates got enough of the vote that the party got federal funding for the next election cycle, but the party was flooded with false flag operatives from one of the two big parties and they destroyed them. I think this happened to the Reform Party (Ross Perot's party) and maybe Jesse Ventura's party?
No, they don't have a chance because the system is gamed against them. How many times did you have to hear someone talk about Ralph Nader and spoiler candidates? You can't vote for Jill Stein because your vote might mean that your state will go to Romney, therefore a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney. How many times did you have to listen to arguments like that? That's exactly the problem. The winner-take-all system naturally leads to a duopoly.
The big debates are run by the Democratic and Republican parties. No way in hell will they let a third party candidate in. The even had the third party candidates arrested for trying to attend one as an audience member. They also put the threshold much higher than 5%.
Okay, I'm not sure if I can describe this very well but whenever I set up anything that uses cables and I have extra length, I loop up and knot off the extra length. Kind of like when you store an extension cord. Loop, loop, loop, then the last few loops I fold back in on the loop so it stays together, minding the length I need afterward. I hope that's clear enough, I don't have a picture to refer you to unfortunately. I leave just enough length for what's necessary, and I do this for power cables, cat5, everything that's longer than I need. It's extra work to undo but most of those don't need to be moved about very much.
Also, for desk setups, you can find some trays that hang below the back of a desktop and you can store your spare cable length out of the way in there. Stash your power strip in there and all your power cords for your computer, monitor, external hard drives, etc.
Finally, I was willing to invest in some new devices that served this purpose. It helped to think minimalistic, if you're also in to that. I dumped my desktop and netbook for a MacBook Pro, (you could also get an iMac), got one large Maxtor 3GB single drive NAS that's stored out of the way next to my router, and my old external drives are boxed up somewhere. My whole network setup is literally just a cable modem, Airport Express, and the NAS, all hidden behind the couch. You'll probably need more, but that might be a good guide for you.
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Yep, reality is the US compares to some of the most war-torn and violent places on the planet. Yay! It's only the 14th worst country for gun homicides.
"and I'm not in the habit of needless pontification."
You mean like that?
Killing sprees are not a function of gun ownership. Killing sprees are a function of other factors like poor treatment of mental health issues, or brutal, hopeless oppression. Gun violence is a function of gun ownership. You need to look at the overall violence. And besides, are you talking about killing sprees, or just the killing sprees that you have personally heard of?
Note the false equivalence in your post. Religious right = extreme left. You have to look to the farthest fringes of the left to find what is routine among the establishment right-wing. That isn't an equivalence.
I'm not even sure what you're arguing about, I was reading a bunch of posts about banning guns before I came across this.
The whole point of a gun is that it can easily kill. It isn't much of a deterrent if it can't do that. So yes, they are made to kill. Parent didn't say anything about murder, that depends on the intent of the user. They can just as easily be used to murder as to defend.
I agree with the parent. Guns make murder too easy. And as numbers from every civilized country has shown, less guns = less gun violence.
To those who argue that the real way to reduce gun violence is more guns in the hands of gun defenders, I ask: why isn't this already so? The US is the most heavily armed and heavily defended society on earth, so why are we so goddamn bad at deterring gun violence? Clearly, it isn't working, we're just escalating the violence level.
No, but it is still much easier to slaughter small children in a classroom than it is to slaughter theater-goers in a darkened theater. Apples and oranges.
Actually, most are obtained legally, but that doesn't detract from your point, which is far more accurate than the parent. That as any civilized country can demonstrate, less gun availability means less gun violence. That's just basic common sense. The people that are arguing that we need to arm everybody are insane.
Um, not in the Adam Lanza way. We also need to start treating mental health issues seriously in this country, so that guys like him get the help they need before stuff like this happens.
And please explain how you intend to protect yourself from crazy laws with guns? Do you really believe an armed rebellion to overthrow the government is even feasible?
And how often exactly does this sort of thing occur, where a cop retaliates against someone who reports him, and their family, and their dog? Or does this only exist in your imagination?
More importantly, what will the world do to stop this aggressive power from it's nuclear ambitions that are obviously in violation of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty?
Oh wait I thought we were talking about Iran here.
Each of us only has one, two, or maybe three (if we're lucky) options to choose from, does it really matter if some ISP that doesn't serve my area is faster than the ones available to me?
So what you're really saying is you think it's their own damn faults for getting stranded. And I suppose they deserve whatever happens to them too?
I can't wait to hear the next story about MPAA studios suing their own marketing departments.
I think the goal is to stack them, then make them out of paper.
They can print using simulated materials now? Forget nanomachines, it's only a matter of time before we turn the planet in to a macro-scale grey goo made out of 3D printers!
Yeah they made all this Donald Trump-style hype about it and then it turned out they had jumped the gun and it wasn't true. I get the feeling that's what this is.
All that unregulated pollution isn't going to just get prayed away.
I seem to remember this happening recently, once or twice. The candidates got enough of the vote that the party got federal funding for the next election cycle, but the party was flooded with false flag operatives from one of the two big parties and they destroyed them. I think this happened to the Reform Party (Ross Perot's party) and maybe Jesse Ventura's party?
No, they don't have a chance because the system is gamed against them. How many times did you have to hear someone talk about Ralph Nader and spoiler candidates? You can't vote for Jill Stein because your vote might mean that your state will go to Romney, therefore a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Mitt Romney. How many times did you have to listen to arguments like that? That's exactly the problem. The winner-take-all system naturally leads to a duopoly.
The big debates are run by the Democratic and Republican parties. No way in hell will they let a third party candidate in. The even had the third party candidates arrested for trying to attend one as an audience member. They also put the threshold much higher than 5%.
I'm sure that anyone that didn't survive Obama did in fact survive Bush, and anyone who didn't survive Bush never made it to see Obama?
Yeah, there is no higher form of patriotism than trying to secede from the union when your guy loses an election.
Nobody markets guns to kids, you asshole. Did you get your 5-year-old a murder weapon for Christmas last year?
A mere million? They'll do time. Now steal a *billion*, ans no one will touch you, but instead you'll be celebrated as an entrepreneurial genius.
Okay, I'm not sure if I can describe this very well but whenever I set up anything that uses cables and I have extra length, I loop up and knot off the extra length. Kind of like when you store an extension cord. Loop, loop, loop, then the last few loops I fold back in on the loop so it stays together, minding the length I need afterward. I hope that's clear enough, I don't have a picture to refer you to unfortunately. I leave just enough length for what's necessary, and I do this for power cables, cat5, everything that's longer than I need. It's extra work to undo but most of those don't need to be moved about very much.
Also, for desk setups, you can find some trays that hang below the back of a desktop and you can store your spare cable length out of the way in there. Stash your power strip in there and all your power cords for your computer, monitor, external hard drives, etc.
Finally, I was willing to invest in some new devices that served this purpose. It helped to think minimalistic, if you're also in to that. I dumped my desktop and netbook for a MacBook Pro, (you could also get an iMac), got one large Maxtor 3GB single drive NAS that's stored out of the way next to my router, and my old external drives are boxed up somewhere. My whole network setup is literally just a cable modem, Airport Express, and the NAS, all hidden behind the couch. You'll probably need more, but that might be a good guide for you.