If I remember right, all the BBS' I frequented switched on the same weekend and in a matter of days SEA, for all intents and purposes, ceased to be a factor in the online community's life.
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Back in those days, there was a great furor over this issue. Most of the SysOps I knew spent a great effort converting.arc files to.pak (and then to.zip) files simply because of SEA's actions. To our understanding, Phil lost everything in the lawsuit: house, assets, everything. Took me about 38 hours to run the conversions, but we vowed that SEA would have NO EXPOSURE on our systems at all.
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As I recall, Phil lost the suit based on the CREATION of the.arc file - somebody should look it up, but I think that it was all right to read the file, but a violation (of copyright?) to create one in that proprietary format. So has anyone used word perfect to create a word file? Micro$loth could be missing a march here.
We considered (and I still do) Phil a hero of what was to become the open-standards movement, and one of the first victims of litigation in an area we didn't believe it belonged.
Since SEA products, announcements and in fact any contact at all was blacklisted from most of the BBSs I knew of, I always wondered if THEY knew what hit them and why...
Hope his family and friends do well. Phil will be sorely missed
I still have my PKWare license disk, with the custom branding activator!
Denizens of The Ancient Pond BBS are encouraged to drop me a line...
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
Actually, you may have indicated the best possible counter to this atrocity. Actually, I first saw this approach in Walt Kelly's "The Jack Acid Society Black Book", a Pogo tome. The Solution is extremely simple:
Everybody gets on the bandwagon. If the blacklist that Pinkerton's is trying to build is filled with everybody, perhaps by volunteers calling from payphones (Remember that 800 numbers are NOT anonymous!), the system will collapse from too much spurious data.
"We has met the enemy, and he is us..."
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
Hey! Pinkerton would have LOVED this. Remember he's the one that supplied goons to Mine Owners during the formation of the UMW, and other anti-union muscle wherever there was someone to pay for it.
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
...I ought to read more closely...
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Hole in GNU GPL?
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'Cause it wasn't until I actually READ the bugroff license page that I realized it _wasn't_ a reference to Radar O'Reilly.
Well. It's sorta on-topic. And it DID need a reference in it...
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
Yes, a cool project for a Master's Thesis or something. Did _anyone_ do the math?
10 slugs/minute 200 slugs/m^2
twenty minutes per sqare meter. How long (or how many at 1500Q) for a single acre?
ever watched a hungry duck or goose go after slugs? How many ducks can you buy for 1.5KQ? They fertilize and provide meat for the pot as well. No pesticides necessary.
If I remember right, all the BBS' I frequented switched on the same weekend and in a matter of days SEA, for all intents and purposes, ceased to be a factor in the online community's life.
<SysOp Mode>
Back in those days, there was a great furor over this issue. Most of the SysOps I knew spent a great effort converting .arc files to .pak (and then to .zip) files simply because of SEA's actions. To our understanding, Phil lost everything in the lawsuit: house, assets, everything. Took me about 38 hours to run the conversions, but we vowed that SEA would have NO EXPOSURE on our systems at all.
</SysOp Mode>
As I recall, Phil lost the suit based on the CREATION of the .arc file - somebody should look it up, but I think that it was all right to read the file, but a violation (of copyright?) to create one in that proprietary format. So has anyone used word perfect to create a word file? Micro$loth could be missing a march here.
We considered (and I still do) Phil a hero of what was to become the open-standards movement, and one of the first victims of litigation in an area we didn't believe it belonged.
Since SEA products, announcements and in fact any contact at all was blacklisted from most of the BBSs I knew of, I always wondered if THEY knew what hit them and why...
Hope his family and friends do well. Phil will be sorely missed
I still have my PKWare license disk, with the custom branding activator!
Denizens of The Ancient Pond BBS are encouraged to drop me a line...
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
What next, suing Home Depot for selling the lead pipe that killed Professor Plumb?
Or:
Suing Gun companies for selling guns that folks shoot each other with?
Suing Tobacco Companies for selling the tobacco that caused medical expenses for tobacco users?
But you get my point. In each of the three cases, the actual injuries were caused by others, the defendants only provided the means.
We really need to think more about what we want liability to be.
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
Everybody gets on the bandwagon. If the blacklist that Pinkerton's is trying to build is filled with everybody, perhaps by volunteers calling from payphones (Remember that 800 numbers are NOT anonymous!), the system will collapse from too much spurious data.
"We has met the enemy, and he is us..."
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
Well. It's sorta on-topic. And it DID need a reference in it...
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
Aw heck. Post this time.
Everyone replying so far has apparantly not gone to the dejanews site mirroring the UDP article:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=571636137
which itself refers to the UDP FAQ:
http://www.stopspam.org/usenet/faqs/udp.html
which would indeed answer most of the objections raised here. RTFM folks!!
As a comment on the @home response? Blame-shifting. Don't extend. But at least they didn't backdate the response....
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
/(o\ I'm not a medievalist - I just play one on weekends!
10 slugs/minute
200 slugs/m^2
twenty minutes per sqare meter. How long (or how many at 1500Q) for a single acre?
ever watched a hungry duck or goose go after slugs? How many ducks can you buy for 1.5KQ? They fertilize and provide meat for the pot as well. No pesticides necessary.