lesser than pine, lesser than elm, lesser than GNUs and certainly lesser than the stoopid clients compared - Evolution, Kmail, Opera, Mozilla and (hehe) Outlook. Ofcourse, like most other happy mutt users ("happy" is redundant though), I have installed, configured, used and finally uninstalled them all (thanks god its all over). Outlook (hehe) is an exception, it automatically got uninstalled when I deleted windows.
Some of the reasons why I hate all the non-mutt clients:
1. WINDOWS BASED: excellent virus support (is that a feature or a bug?) + (correct me if I'm wrong) hardly any fetchmail / procmail / mbox support. BTW, these are not the only reasons for hating (hehe) outlook
2. GUI BASED: 'normally' heavy on system resources + un-necessary dependence on mouse + need to have an Xserver if you wish to check your mails from your colleague's windows machine (who is another building).
3. Text Based: either not as fast or not as configurable as mutt.
- Mutt loads my 9,000 messages (approx.) mbox faster than pine (haven't compared elm/gnus).
- Searching for a particular messages takes me atleast 1/10th the time on mutt because it allows localizing searches and sorting results. Don't ever challenge any mutt user on this one.
- Pine/Elm are not colorful, which is a very usable feature I believe.
- Threading. Don't know if Pine/Elm have it (please correct me if I'm wrong)?
- Mutt allows keybindings for almost everything. So, when I press F7, I see all messages from my friends; Esc F7 -> everything except from my friends; F8 -> Friends + Family; F9 ->...
Reasons why I sometimes hate Mutt: 1. doesn't have news support 2. doesn't work if my keyboard is not plugged in (i.e. solely with a mouse) 3. no group object model (yet to be invented)
You should be stoned for comparing OS X with Lindows/Windows (desktops i mean).
gnome (ximian) is good enough for most of the things. Just hoping that codeweavers (www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover/) is acquired by RH/deb etc., so that we can handle M$ apps without booting into the M$ env (for free). Hate saving it in.doc format, but my organization is too naive for docBook (or XML). VMware helps, but won't let me do a `rm -rf windows` on my machine.
your suggestions are humourous and perhaps at some places _do_ reflect the evolved hacker state. But I figure that you are _preaching_ about a certain dress/lifestyle code which in my opinion is not a necessary condition to know your kernel and not sufficient either (I have a beard, but don't know the kmod details). You don't decide to get rid of all your razors or your bf/gf, sometimes they get rid of you.
I know I might get a lot of flames for this, but to really understand how a big source code is fitted together (headers, dependencies etc) - trying out things on minix could prove very useful. Reasons:
1. It's small
2. You can test your changes (thus gain confidence in building a bigger system)
3. Your OS fundamentals get stronger
If you are new to unix, you may want to look at the lions' commentary on unix.
The book by Alessandro Rubini (Linux Device Drivers) is also very good.
It goes without saying that you need to dig into the code and get familiar with it... there is _NO_ alternative.
If someone has linux kernel documentation (like lions' commentary), _KINDLY_ mail!
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SCO's a pimp -- he never'a could've outfought IBM. But I didn't know until this day that it was -- Micro$oft all along...
(actually i did)
= CUT TO SCENE 2=
I want you to find out where that ol' pimp SCO is hiding -- I want his ass now -- right now! (and -- don't forget to bring the license)
lesser than pine, lesser than elm, lesser than GNUs and certainly lesser than the stoopid clients compared - Evolution, Kmail, Opera, Mozilla and (hehe) Outlook. Ofcourse, like most other happy mutt users ("happy" is redundant though), I have installed, configured, used and finally uninstalled them all (thanks god its all over). Outlook (hehe) is an exception, it automatically got uninstalled when I deleted windows.
...
Some of the reasons why I hate all the non-mutt clients:
1. WINDOWS BASED: excellent virus support (is that a feature or a bug?) + (correct me if I'm wrong) hardly any fetchmail / procmail / mbox support. BTW, these are not the only reasons for hating (hehe) outlook
2. GUI BASED: 'normally' heavy on system resources + un-necessary dependence on mouse + need to have an Xserver if you wish to check your mails from your colleague's windows machine (who is another building).
3. Text Based: either not as fast or not as configurable as mutt.
- Mutt loads my 9,000 messages (approx.) mbox faster than pine (haven't compared elm/gnus).
- Searching for a particular messages takes me atleast 1/10th the time on mutt because it allows localizing searches and sorting results. Don't ever challenge any mutt user on this one.
- Pine/Elm are not colorful, which is a very usable feature I believe.
- Threading. Don't know if Pine/Elm have it (please correct me if I'm wrong)?
- Mutt allows keybindings for almost everything. So, when I press F7, I see all messages from my friends; Esc F7 -> everything except from my friends; F8 -> Friends + Family; F9 ->
Reasons why I sometimes hate Mutt:
1. doesn't have news support
2. doesn't work if my keyboard is not plugged in (i.e. solely with a mouse)
3. no group object model (yet to be invented)
Someone should do the study again.
I personally know some SCO Employees (New Delhi, INDIA), who use linux as their main OS.
Maybe they should sue themselves first.
Hi,
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Love, Peace, Open Source!
Vishal
Linux is too hard - agreed (for crashing systems)
You should be stoned for comparing OS X with Lindows/Windows (desktops i mean).
.doc format, but my organization is too naive for docBook (or XML). VMware helps, but won't let me do a `rm -rf windows` on my machine.
gnome (ximian) is good enough for most of the things. Just hoping that codeweavers (www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover/) is acquired by RH/deb etc., so that we can handle M$ apps without booting into the M$ env (for free). Hate saving it in
checkout LinNeighborhood, works fine on gnome (never tried on kde).
http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/
your suggestions are humourous and perhaps at some places _do_ reflect the evolved hacker state. But I figure that you are _preaching_ about a certain dress/lifestyle code which in my opinion is not a necessary condition to know your kernel and not sufficient either (I have a beard, but don't know the kmod details). You don't decide to get rid of all your razors or your bf/gf, sometimes they get rid of you.
You don't have to look weird, to be wired.
Linus is an example, not an exception.
I know I might get a lot of flames for this, but to really understand how a big source code is fitted together (headers, dependencies etc) - trying out things on minix could prove very useful. Reasons:
1. It's small
2. You can test your changes (thus gain confidence in building a bigger system)
3. Your OS fundamentals get stronger
If you are new to unix, you may want to look at the lions' commentary on unix.
The book by Alessandro Rubini (Linux Device Drivers) is also very good.
It goes without saying that you need to dig into the code and get familiar with it... there is _NO_ alternative.
If someone has linux kernel documentation (like lions' commentary), _KINDLY_ mail!