CFEngine is great for distribution and synchronization. It's not a version control system. In concert though, CFEngine with CVS is a great way to manage a lot of systems. You can even manage the CFEngine configuration within CVS for optimal control. Makes release management feasible and sane.
Score 2 for Informative? How f*cking dumb are the people handing out points?
Hm, let me pull some obtuse, uninformed opinion from my ass and see if I get 2 points too.
I think you didn't read the message thread (there were at least 89 commits to CVS != untouched) and I think you have a cursory understanding of the licenses in question (the GPL allows binary releases too).
I think this whole conversation is BS. And after this post I think I'm burning my account.
thousands of uber-Quake machines are pwned via their NVidia bung holes.
An irate binary driver user was quoted saying
Like, my machine is pwned and stuff. And now it's like, sending spam and stuff. And like, my ping times have gone to shit! How am I supposed to pwn CS with this?
I wasted hours and hours playing that game. Never finished it though. My Apple II floppy version was corrupted and I had to send it in for replacement. Of course, the new one didn't include my saved games so I was back to square one. Lost interest at that point... From there I went back to playing Ultima II and III. The Ultima series really takes me back! Oh to be in Ambrosia again, bribing guards, visiting shrines, all at the bottom of a whirlpool. sigh
You obviously don't use GMail, Google Calendar, and the like. Then again, I used them until Google upgraded something and they no longer displayed correctly with FF on OpenBSD. Ah well.
I do have to say that I find the title querying about a hoax encouraging. My curiousity was tweaked, but not much more. Had the title included IE, I would have started sweating yet again thinking of my clients and then servers tipping over like Dominos. And that's after the monthly patch grind I already endure...
Your so short sighted. Your pegging this as an OpenBSD specific problem/skirmish/whatever.
What Theo is really after is changing the way these companies work with the Open Source community. Linux/FreeBSD/NetBSD/etc/etc all have a stake in this. If you don't help champion this, things will only get worse for ALL users.
But lets assume your right. I'm one of those two hundred Intel just told to "fuck off". In doing so, you've just alienated me and left me feeling quite jaded. Unfortunately for you, I'm an IT pointy haired boss weilding a $30mm budget for $2 billion dollar company. Your casual brush off just influenced my future purchasing decisions. Does that really mean something? Well, let me draw a comparison. I was caught up in the Adaptec RAID controller versus OpenBSD fiasco. Ask me how many Adaptec RAID controllers I've purchased since then. The answer is: LSI really likes me and my 400+ servers.
Additionally, I've taken every opportunity to recommend LSI and discourage Adaptec purchases on mailing list and in conversations with other managers at other companies. It's surprising all the places and roles you find OpenBSD used. Obscure, yes. Widely used, yes.
You have to be careful when you make a decision to alienate someone(s)... You postulate Theo has no leverage. I beg to differ.
Unfortunately, we made some mistakes here. As we've seen over the
years, one of the great successes of Linux was that it had a strong
leader, who set goals and directions, and was able to get people to do
what he wanted -- or find someone else to do it.
Slashdot Mirror
Nice. Explain the 100KB/s upload I've been seeding all day then. Guess those three people REALLY like it.
That makes 4 of us who run a real OS.
Here's the tracker - http://openbsd.somedomain.net/
Most popular architectures appear to be i386, amd64, and sparc64.
So your independently wealthy. Guess that means auto insurance costs don't really bother you. Nor the occasional speeding ticket.
However, how independently wealthy do you have to be to get out of PMITA when your cell mate Bubba takes a liking to your nice white bald head?
CFEngine is great for distribution and synchronization. It's not a version control system. In concert though, CFEngine with CVS is a great way to manage a lot of systems. You can even manage the CFEngine configuration within CVS for optimal control. Makes release management feasible and sane.
_sigh_ Those handing out scores know less than Rix.
Read the damn license will you? Your dead wrong on this one!
From the website:
The software is developed in countries that permit cryptography export and is freely useable and re-useable by everyone under a BSD license.
That means it's more free than the GPL. Copy the code, license it with the GPL and distribute it. What's holding you back? Perhaps an ID10T error?
Score 2 for Informative? How f*cking dumb are the people handing out points?
Hm, let me pull some obtuse, uninformed opinion from my ass and see if I get 2 points too.
I think you didn't read the message thread (there were at least 89 commits to CVS != untouched) and I think you have a cursory understanding of the licenses in question (the GPL allows binary releases too).
I think this whole conversation is BS. And after this post I think I'm burning my account.
If you've never taken a ship down the whirlpool, you missed out. Be sure to bring some gold to bribe the guards!
becoming more like UNIX. Heck, Microsoft even built their "UNIX Services for Windows" using OpenBSD source code.
I cut out the middle man and just run OpenBSD natively. Why let microsoft screw it up?
thousands of uber-Quake machines are pwned via their NVidia bung holes.
An irate binary driver user was quoted saying
Like, my machine is pwned and stuff. And now it's like, sending spam and stuff. And like, my ping times have gone to shit! How am I supposed to pwn CS with this?
From the quote of the article "and higher clock speed of 3.43-3.73Ghz"
/me shakes head disapprovingly
Let the Ghz versus instructions per cycle war begin, yet again...
I wasted hours and hours playing that game. Never finished it though. My Apple II floppy version was corrupted and I had to send it in for replacement. Of course, the new one didn't include my saved games so I was back to square one. Lost interest at that point... From there I went back to playing Ultima II and III. The Ultima series really takes me back! Oh to be in Ambrosia again, bribing guards, visiting shrines, all at the bottom of a whirlpool. sigh
You obviously don't use GMail, Google Calendar, and the like. Then again, I used them until Google upgraded something and they no longer displayed correctly with FF on OpenBSD. Ah well.
I do have to say that I find the title querying about a hoax encouraging. My curiousity was tweaked, but not much more. Had the title included IE, I would have started sweating yet again thinking of my clients and then servers tipping over like Dominos. And that's after the monthly patch grind I already endure...
Your so short sighted. Your pegging this as an OpenBSD specific problem/skirmish/whatever.
What Theo is really after is changing the way these companies work with the Open Source community. Linux/FreeBSD/NetBSD/etc/etc all have a stake in this. If you don't help champion this, things will only get worse for ALL users.
But lets assume your right. I'm one of those two hundred Intel just told to "fuck off". In doing so, you've just alienated me and left me feeling quite jaded. Unfortunately for you, I'm an IT pointy haired boss weilding a $30mm budget for $2 billion dollar company. Your casual brush off just influenced my future purchasing decisions. Does that really mean something? Well, let me draw a comparison. I was caught up in the Adaptec RAID controller versus OpenBSD fiasco. Ask me how many Adaptec RAID controllers I've purchased since then. The answer is: LSI really likes me and my 400+ servers.
Additionally, I've taken every opportunity to recommend LSI and discourage Adaptec purchases on mailing list and in conversations with other managers at other companies. It's surprising all the places and roles you find OpenBSD used. Obscure, yes. Widely used, yes.
You have to be careful when you make a decision to alienate someone(s)... You postulate Theo has no leverage. I beg to differ.
From TFA:
From the OpenBSD website:
OpenBSD is driven by Theo the "benevolent dictator". Glad to see "correctness" applied to leadership style and at least one NetBSD error fixed.
This is somewhat sad though, as I still see commit messages in OpenBSD referencing NetBSD occasionally.
(Posted via Firefox running on OpenBSD 4.0 Beta)
I need to Google it for my companies name.
Mind sharing your plug-in code? I'm VERY interested in doing this at my house.
Or am I just seeing what I want to see?