Yeah but is there any evidence at all that low level EMF radiation is bad for you or anyone?
Obviously, yes. What would be the economic incentive for the WHO to whore for fear-mongers if there wasn't a certain amount of evidence? Do luddites pool their money and contribute it to the WHO? Do the Landline Monopolies get together at night and conspire?
I think the fact that bananas aren't being hysterically shunned shows that people are not idiots.
There's a lot of denial here in the thread, though. If cellphones were conclusively proven to cause cancer, one gets the feeling people would cling to them the way people keep smoking cigarettes.
GPLv3 trolls are rarely successful when you tack them on as a comment reply this far down in a thread. Next time stick it up as a reply to one of the first few comments.
Yes, but Microsoft gave up on meaningful version numbers when the very first release of Windows NT was version 3.1. (presumably to synch with Windows 3.1 which was the current version at the time)
Since the numbering system is based on that start, it can't really ever be a valid sequence. Unless, maybe, NT 4.0 had been called NT 6.2, and Windows 2000 was called NT 9.3.
I used to work at LaserMaster, where they pioneered continuous flow ink. In fact, they got into a big stinky pissing match with Hewlett-Packard because they started buying DeskJet cartridges in bulk, dumping the ink out of them and reselling them with their big bag of ink attached. They designed these into their large format printers and had a good thing going.
unlike jbrodkin, I don't believe in posting pictures of things that are ugly and broken.
I have Yggdrasil's Fall 1993 'Plug and Play Linux,' the first version, speaking of ugly and broken. They initially tried branding it as 'LGX' and I suspect they thought they would establish that proprietary name and own the thing.
It did a few things okay and would boot up directly from the CD, but the hard disk installer was quite ugly and broken. You could only install the whole fricking thing in one piece, even though there were supposed to be installer options to just install the parts you wanted. No matter what you picked, it'd install everything It'd crash in the middle after it filled up the entire disk. The whole thing meant about 600 megabytes. Nobody had 600 megabytes on a single disk back then. At least I sure didn't.
It played music at the login prompt on first boot, though, which was quite impressive for the time. Sound card support was rather pitiful in Linux back in 1993.
Not really. The original MacOS had about the same number of crippled and limited applets as the original Windows. Neither had many third party apps for quite awhile.
What about mini computers, mainframes, Smalltalk-80, Multics, Unix System III
I have an Altos 586 system in my collection. It's an 8086 based machine with 512 of RAM. The '5' in the model name refers to the fact that it has 5 serial ports so that five users can be using the system simultaneously with dumb terminals. Your mention of Unix System III reminded me of it. It runs Microsoft Xenix, the early version that was based on Unix System III.
Yes, back in the early 80's Microsoft was a licensed UNIX vendor. And they had the best port of the UNIX code for the 8086 architecture.
I have the entire retail box set. The outer box is a little tattered from travel, but I have the complete package, all manuals, disks, etc. I have thought about shilling it on eBay. I also have a full complete copy of one of the first good third-party apps that came out for Windows. Micrografx In-A-Vision, which evolved into Micrografx Designer (which Corel has now snuffed out.) In-A-Vision included a runtime version of Windows 1 in the package, because back then app vendors had to do stuff like that.
Wow. Where do I get this pay-as-you-go phone that I can use to buy groceries, electronics and maybe even a new car? I assume you mean one that has no link to my banking info. So it's all free!
Who would want to print photographs on an inkjet when the drugstore less than a mile away can print it on real photographic paper? And for less money, once you factor in all the partial ink cartridges you will be throwing away if you're actually serious about printing photographs on an inkspray printer.
But the cheapest and simplest aspect of printing can also have a big impact on the final quality: the paper
The biggest expense is the most avoidable. The ink. Don't buy an overpriced spray-and-pray blotter printer. Get a real laser printer. I bought mine at a University Surplus auction for $10. Toner for it was expensive, I paid $90 for a cartridge. But that's enough toner to print on several cases of paper.
The ink sellers will love it if you keep on using their expensive ink in your spray-printer, though.
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Yes. We know. Pundits on both 'sides' of the issue can and will cherry-pick the list to make their case and/or just to troll.
Yeah but is there any evidence at all that low level EMF radiation is bad for you or anyone?
Obviously, yes. What would be the economic incentive for the WHO to whore for fear-mongers if there wasn't a certain amount of evidence? Do luddites pool their money and contribute it to the WHO? Do the Landline Monopolies get together at night and conspire?
I think the fact that bananas aren't being hysterically shunned shows that people are not idiots.
There's a lot of denial here in the thread, though. If cellphones were conclusively proven to cause cancer, one gets the feeling people would cling to them the way people keep smoking cigarettes.
you would realize that many of the protesters are local farmers.
yeah, right. And most of the Iranians who occupied the US Embassy in Tehran in 1979 were 'students.'
GPLv3 trolls are rarely successful when you tack them on as a comment reply this far down in a thread. Next time stick it up as a reply to one of the first few comments.
Yes, but Microsoft gave up on meaningful version numbers when the very first release of Windows NT was version 3.1. (presumably to synch with Windows 3.1 which was the current version at the time)
Since the numbering system is based on that start, it can't really ever be a valid sequence. Unless, maybe, NT 4.0 had been called NT 6.2, and Windows 2000 was called NT 9.3.
It's not karma whoring when it's done for just the joy of being a nerd. Who pooed in your drinky?
When Linux 2.0 release june, 9 1996 was the first stable complete workable versatile version.
Not hardly. 1.2.13 was really good, and 1.2.17 was even better and a lot of us stuck with it for a long, long time.
it's jerks from here to infinity.
That's not the meme.
It's jerks all the way down.
Actually, he was calculating it in his head because OpenOffice Calc was taking too long to load.
Maybe that's the meaning of the 'code word' within your Trotskyite study group. Out here in the regular world, Human Rights has other meanings.
So by your reckoning, what has happened to this guy is okay?
I recently came across a 1965 Radio Shack catalog in a box of tech docs. They weren't that bad an outfit back then.
You ruined a plated tip the first time you brought sandpaper near it. Or do you still use the el-cheapo $5 soldering irons?
You should try plated tips! Wipe the tip on a wet sponge regularly while using it and keep wet solder coating it whenever it's hot.
I used to work at LaserMaster, where they pioneered continuous flow ink. In fact, they got into a big stinky pissing match with Hewlett-Packard because they started buying DeskJet cartridges in bulk, dumping the ink out of them and reselling them with their big bag of ink attached. They designed these into their large format printers and had a good thing going.
Perhaps by reporting on a story involving the Zuck where he remains anonymous and his name is not mentioned.
Even then, though, there's likely to be a stench we would detect.
The Zuck was never a nerd. He's definitely a fratboy type who used nerds.
I have Yggdrasil's Fall 1993 'Plug and Play Linux,' the first version, speaking of ugly and broken. They initially tried branding it as 'LGX' and I suspect they thought they would establish that proprietary name and own the thing.
It did a few things okay and would boot up directly from the CD, but the hard disk installer was quite ugly and broken. You could only install the whole fricking thing in one piece, even though there were supposed to be installer options to just install the parts you wanted. No matter what you picked, it'd install everything It'd crash in the middle after it filled up the entire disk. The whole thing meant about 600 megabytes. Nobody had 600 megabytes on a single disk back then. At least I sure didn't.
It played music at the login prompt on first boot, though, which was quite impressive for the time. Sound card support was rather pitiful in Linux back in 1993.
Not really. The original MacOS had about the same number of crippled and limited applets as the original Windows. Neither had many third party apps for quite awhile.
I have an Altos 586 system in my collection. It's an 8086 based machine with 512 of RAM. The '5' in the model name refers to the fact that it has 5 serial ports so that five users can be using the system simultaneously with dumb terminals. Your mention of Unix System III reminded me of it. It runs Microsoft Xenix, the early version that was based on Unix System III.
Yes, back in the early 80's Microsoft was a licensed UNIX vendor. And they had the best port of the UNIX code for the 8086 architecture.
No, "Remove" would remove the dialogue box, terminating the 'cancel appointment' request.
Really, though, it should all just be up to that little box with the 'X' in the upper right corner.
I have the entire retail box set. The outer box is a little tattered from travel, but I have the complete package, all manuals, disks, etc. I have thought about shilling it on eBay. I also have a full complete copy of one of the first good third-party apps that came out for Windows. Micrografx In-A-Vision, which evolved into Micrografx Designer (which Corel has now snuffed out.) In-A-Vision included a runtime version of Windows 1 in the package, because back then app vendors had to do stuff like that.
Wow. Where do I get this pay-as-you-go phone that I can use to buy groceries, electronics and maybe even a new car? I assume you mean one that has no link to my banking info. So it's all free!
Who would want to print photographs on an inkjet when the drugstore less than a mile away can print it on real photographic paper? And for less money, once you factor in all the partial ink cartridges you will be throwing away if you're actually serious about printing photographs on an inkspray printer.
The biggest expense is the most avoidable. The ink. Don't buy an overpriced spray-and-pray blotter printer. Get a real laser printer. I bought mine at a University Surplus auction for $10. Toner for it was expensive, I paid $90 for a cartridge. But that's enough toner to print on several cases of paper.
The ink sellers will love it if you keep on using their expensive ink in your spray-printer, though.