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Windows 1.0: the Power of DOS, Plus Tiled Windows
jbrodkin writes "I'd always wanted my own working copy of the elusive Windows 1.0, and after a few failed attempts I got one working in a virtual machine (I had to downgrade from the latest version of Windows Virtual PC to an earlier version to get it started, but that's another story). With 416K free memory, we were able to cruise through Reversi, take a look at the first version of Notepad, as well as the now-defunct Microsoft Write, and create a 'masterpiece' in Microsoft Paint. Eventually, applications started crashing, but a simple reboot got it working again. All in all, a nice tour through computing history. Anyone have a copy of the first Macintosh OS they want to send me?"
What's the deal with Slashdot still using that Bill Gates Borg icon to represent Microsoft? That icon is so dated on both levels these days. Bill Gates hasn't worked at Microsoft in years, and the Borg reference just is no longer current or relevant. Anyone under 25 would hardly get the references.
You guys just had a redesign, and you still can't deign to use the real Microsoft icon? For gods sake you have the real ones for Facebook and Twitter, it's not like its that hard. If anything, it makes slashdot just look so horribly unfunny and irrelevant.
This is an on-topic meta comment.
1.0 Post!
Huh, I wonder what broke it with the newer version of Virtual PC.
I installed Win 1.0 and GEM to Virtualbox year ago without problems.
I still have a complete set on 5 1/4 floppies for the Windows 2-86 version. No idea if they are even still readable at this point.
UPS Sucks
...after a few failed attempts I got one working.... Eventually, applications started crashing, but a simple reboot got it working again.
Sounds like you have it working as designed. Bravo.
More music, fewer hits
Eventually, applications started crashing, but a simple reboot got it working again
Yep, that's Windows all right.
Proverbs 21:19
BTW didn't the other guy upgraded from windows 1.0 to 7 making this even less relevant?
Sig? Heil
If you liked that experience, you should check out the windows really good version
http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/
The point is that it's now passed beyond satire into meta-satire; the satire is mostly on the fact that so many Slashdot commenters bemoan their portrayal as you do. The very reason it's still being used is probably because of that. Honestly, I see more comments complaining about how Slashdotters are always biased against MS than I see comments which are genuinely biased against them.
Kinda. Really.
I love slideshows. Specially when they are utterly irrelevant.
Oh and it's interrupted by full screen ads too!
Charming!
There's a plethora of OS's out there, if you're willing to tap in some queries. Windows 1.0 on a single floppy, ApplePC v2.52, CP/M, Minix OS, OS2 v1.0, OS2 Warp Demo on 1 Disk...... you name'm.
This ain't Craiglist, is it?
They put it here because they didn't think to ask you if it were OK. Get over yourself.
I've got some sealed boxes of PC-DOS if anybody is interested. I forget which versions but I have a few different boxes. These were for an insurance company that I guess never opened them. I was cleaning out a closet and got to keep them.
I could go for a Ballmer Zombie instead.
Windows technically wasn't an OS until Win 95 (although admittedly, it was kind of blurred by the time Windows 3.0 came out). Indeed, "MS-DOS Executive" was File Manager under another name (and was also, IIRC, available in MS-DOS 4.01 and possibly still there in MS-DOS 5.0)
Old OS in a VM. Hmmm. Now, old MacOS (pre OS 9.0) in a VM without using ROM iamges - that would be something
"She's furniture with a pulse"
GEOS was working on the Commodore 64 and the Amiga was multitasking multimedia in 512k... Yes indeed, computer "history" is all about MS and Apple... (rolls eyes) All we need now is a Space Nutter to claim that we only have computers and Teflon because of NASA and the circle of BS will be complete!
Now THAT is a good idea. Actually does anybody beside me think that Ballmer looks like the monster from Young Frankenstein?
http://www.linuxbeacon.com/doku.php?id=minivmac has a tutorial on Mac emulation. For the original OS in a disk image go to http://www.rolli.ch/MacPlus/welcome.html
If you want everything already set-up and don't mind a slightly newer (yet still ancient) Mac OS version, you can download a .zip that I made and is available from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKN2r5iNZNI
It's amazing. The error dialogs and calculator have lasted on, virtually unchanged.
I8-D
If you want more junk, I have plenty at my place. I don't know about you guys, but I am really tired of the crap that Microsoft puts out. My next laptop will be a Macbook Pro.
It's nostalgia for those of us that actually used it.
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
/. should just use a chair. *ducks* (literally)
But has Netcraft confirmed Windows 1.0 is dead?
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
I wonder where someone could find and run QDOS (DOS 1.0 that Gates bought and sold to IBM). "The "Microsoft Disk Operating System" or MS-DOS was based on QDOS, the "Quick and Dirty Operating System" written by Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products, for their prototype Intel 8086 based computer.
QDOS was based on Gary Kildall's CP/M, Paterson had bought a CP/M manual and used it as the basis to write his operating system in six weeks, QDOS was different enough from CP/M to be considered legal.
Microsoft bought the rights to QDOS for $50,000, keeping the IBM deal a secret from Seattle Computer Products." - About.com
I8-D
Nope.
Not hard to find. My first Mac OS was 2.1 I think - it was a Mac 512k. Here's a link to get the image. http://www.nd.edu/~jvanderk/sysone/
Do you have this rant saved in a text file on your desktop so you can quickly copy/paste it into any Windows story?
The curse will never lift. They are doomed to UI fail forever. (it's verb/cancel, for youse unaware folk. always verb/cancel)
CS majors know the time/space tradeoff, but they never get taught the 3rd, crucial, tradeoff of the set: comprehension!
wanted my own working copy of the elusive Windows 1.0
It's not elusive. It's dead (good riddance).
My first Windows I ever came to use was 3, but of course I had to see and try previous versions as well back in the days. May them all rot in peace together.
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
http://regmedia.co.uk/2007/12/19/ballmer_fester_bulb.jpg
They're keeping it solely to piss people like you off. It seems to be working.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Anyone under 25 wouldn't know what the Borg are? First, you're overreaching as I'm 26 and easily get the reference. Someone as much as 5-6 years younger than me would probably get it just fine. Second, even if they're younger than that, if they have never even heard of the Borg they probably aren't the type that comes here in the first place. Third, most people alive are 25 and over. I think it's fine.
"16MB (fuck off, MiB fascists)" - The Mighty Buzzard
I'm not sure that I've ever seen a copy of Windows 1.0, and I was REALLY in to old versions of windows at a point. 1.01, yes. 1.02, yes. 1.03, yes. 1.04, definitely (had that running native on a P4 though I forget how easy or difficult that was...) - but not the original 1.0. Apparently there was some sort of major bug with 1.0, or memory leak, or something. If anybody actually finds a copy somewhere though... that would be amazing. I've seen things claiming to be 1.0 that are just resource hacks of 1.01 or 1.04, (usually 1.04) so I know you can "find it on the google" but I have yet to see a confirmed 1.0 disk image anywhere on the net....
Does repeatedly pasting the rant make it any less valid?
take a look at the most recent version of Notepad
Sure it's basic, but if it aint broke ... ;-)
The original Write might have gone away...but there is still a proxy in its place.
If you look in Windows 7's \system32 directory, you will find good ol' write.exe. I believe the icon is the same one it had in the Win 95 days. If you look at the property dialog for the file, and click over to the Details tab, you'll see that the "File description" is "Windows Write". Even in Windows 7, one can invoke "write hello.txt" from the command line.
However, the executable is tiny, and it appears to simply invoke WordPad. The executable that shows up in Task Manager is "wordpad.exe".
Because a sweaty Ballmer throwing chairs will not fit in a icon.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I vote for a flying chair that is in a temporary state of suspension above a planar surface.
Someone downloaded a floppy image of an old OS and ran it in an emulator. This is front page news?
Try GEOS for the Commodor 64. Now that's what I called primitive windows.
With Gnome and Unity throwing decades of HCI research out of the Window, Linux is doomed to lose even more of its 0.75% market share.
What's the deal with Slashdot still using that Bill Gates Borg icon to represent Microsoft? That icon is so dated on both levels these days. Bill Gates hasn't worked at Microsoft in years, and the Borg reference just is no longer current or relevant.
Methinks the Borg reference will be more relevant in the future than it has ever been. As for Bill working in Microsoft, some of the issues many people have had in the past with MSFT were related to money Bill Gates made from work other people did.
I come here multiple times daily, I have no idea what the Borg reference is, Im also 24 years old. I'm either an utter failure or your comment was.
I'm 21 and fully understood the first time I saw that icon which was probably 2 or 3 years ago.
I played the Picard song on youtube to my 21 year old roommate. He asked 'what is pick-urd?'...
The Borg are not limited to TNG. Voyager only ended in 2001, so it's not unreasonable to say that someone who is 20 years old has heard of the Borg from that.
"16MB (fuck off, MiB fascists)" - The Mighty Buzzard
Too late. That just means that the Bill Gates Borg icon is becoming part of Slashdot lore. Newbies may not understand immediately, but they will if they stick around long enough. Besides, if we didn't allow for this sort of thing, how could we ever expect to develop our own culture? If instead Slashdot just followed whatever was trendy, then I think our days would be numbered. Of course, this may also mean that we will eventually die out, our sizable membership finally dwindling to a small number of old kooks, but even then I'd rather be a member of this club than of one of the trendier ones that come and go.
I really liked it until you found that most apps wont run...
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
To run an old version of MacOS, you can use vMac:
http://www.vmac.org/
You'll also need a Mac ROM file and a disk image with the MacOS version you'd like to run, but you should be able to find those as well.
I don't have version 1.0, but I do have version 1.1.
"Money is a sign of poverty." - Iain Banks
I'm twelve and is this?
"To prevent this day from getting any worse, I'll just read ERROR as GOOD THING" 1GJU8xLuDKDxEs4KLf8fAGyptoDsqvEsBT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3yZU0LJFg
It seems like the easier way to do it.
And a better designed one please. I saw all the series of Star Trek (from TOS to Enterprise), but the first time I saw Gates in that picture I did not immediatly related it to the Borg.
http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html
FYI.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
No! The borg reference is still quite relevant. Just because they can't EE&E anymore doesn't mean their mentality has changed. Look at OOXML or their Android patent extortion scheme. Same old Microsoft. Sure, their assimilation glory days are over, but they're still trying :)
Oh, and I forgot about the fact that they basically assimilated Nokia. What a tragedy that was.
This is an on-topic meta comment.
No, it's not. It is, however, the third time I've seen this exact comment made word for word (apart from that last bit).
Try to see that this is a part of /. history now, and whatever nose-thumbing may have been intended in the past has now been diluted into a more friendly jab at Gates and the company he founded. Oh, and Have a Nice Day.
All Data Will Be Lost
OK
(Almost as good as "Keyboard Error press F1")
At the risk of unwanted attention or appearing as flamebait, I will say it again: MS-DOS was not all that bad.
Had MS-DOS been truly useless/horrible, it never would have caught on. And survived/persisted. Sure, it has deficiencies. But not so bad the Apps (which people buy hardware to run) couldn't be compelling.
MS-DOS is actually a pretty good program loader / boot environment plus filessystem and is still used as such and for BIOS flashing. Just please don't call it an Operating System, which it is not by any modern standard.
Windows 1.0 is the start of the beginning of the end. This is not a tour through history, it's a tour through modern history. It's like if a history buff went to the Clinton library and then proclaimed he had a tour through presidential history. Windows 1.0 is just the start of the tiny offshoot of computing known as Windows. Even on the micro computer offshoot of history you could be looking further back at S-100 bus computers with CP/M. What about mini computers, mainframes, Smalltalk-80, Multics, Unix System III. Instead of Reversi play a game of Adventure, Hunt the Wumpus, Zork, or even Star Trek on a PDP-10.
OK, off topic.
I don't have an OS or even the original Mac anymore, but I hung on to the two original cassette tapes that shipped with my 128K Mac. They're audio cassettes with some New Age music playing in the background describing all the neat stuff this new computer will do. I haven't listened to them for a while.
I wonder what they're worth.
I'm twelve and what is this?
Given that Gates was pushing the purchase of Skype with the board I think it is still appropriate.
Hey KID! Yeah you, get the fuck off my lawn!
The sad thing is that this Borg Gates icon was actually updated in the past few years. They went through the effort to redraw the icon even after its outdated. If they want to recycle a bad joke, do a Steve Jobs on for Apple. At least that would be relevant and actually make sense.
Wise men say, "Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza."
You actually used Windows 1.0?
Well, I do keep a Windows 3.11/DOS 6 PC in working order out of nostalgia. It wasn't easy to get a Pentium 60 with a PCI video card that had Win3x video drivers. Otherwise, I had an old Sound Blaster AWE64 and an old copy of QEMM so I can play all my old DOS games without an emulator. My wish list is for IBM to put OS/2 in the public domain and for someone to dig up "The Writer's Toolkit for Windows".
What's the deal with Slashdot still using that Bill Gates Borg icon to represent Microsoft? That icon is so dated on both levels these days. Bill Gates hasn't worked at Microsoft in years, and the Borg reference just is no longer current or relevant. Anyone under 25 would hardly get the references.
Resistance is futile.
Thats what i was thinking. that's how i run my windows 3.1 installation. I have some old 16bit games (for pre-schoolers) that wont working 64bit Windows anymore.
It's relevant to the post in that it's part of Microsoft's history at the very least, at the most it's not that serious, is it?
You'll have more luck running Windows 1.0 on DOSbox.
'For we walk by faith, not by sight.' II Corinthians 5:7
Developers! Developers! Developers!
~ Crunch! ~
Brains! Brains! Brains!
Think of it a MS Windblows 0.90! Actually it was fun to use, I liked it!
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
and what about skype
It was copy protected and the floppies they used go bad.
any know how to get system 6 running in softmac or Basilisk II in mac II or better mode?
calculator, clock, calendar, notepad, print spooler, paint program, a primitive word processor and, of course, Reversi [...] Although Windows applications have evolved and expanded in the past quarter-century, Notepad and Paint survived all the way up to Windows 7.
I'm not sure whether he forgot to say Calc survived, or if he meant "survived unchanged" and deliberately left Calc out since it got a major revision in Windows 7.
If it's the latter case, he really shouldn't have included Paint either since that also got a major revision in Windows 7.
No, but it doesn't make it more valid either.
What it does do is alienate your intended audience and make them think you're like chlorine in /.'s gene pool.
If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.
The fist mac os is an elusive animal, mostly because the first classic Mac had most of the GUI functions in ROM memory in an API ROM library called Quick Draw, so you need to emulate that hardwired routines too
What if you need to cancel your appointment?
Remove/Cancel. Remove would cancel the appointment.
The first Macs were very hardware dependent. With only 128K RAM to work with, a lot of the OS was in ROM (and remained there throughout much of the MacOS 1-7 evolution). Not sure of the copyright on that, whether Apple would allow such a ROM dump. With so little RAM/ROM I'm sure there were a lot of techniques to save bytes, some that undoubtedly made the code very hardware dependent, and therefore harder to emulate. Also, they were Motorola 68000 machines, not Intel.
Any emulation of it would have to overcome quite a few barriers. Not that it's impossible, just a much higher barrier to entry than Windows 1 was.
If you get an early Mac OS, remember to check out the "secret about box" easter-egg
It isn't an "ask slashdot" or news, and it isn't even useful information. Yeah, you can put old OSes in a virtual machine. So what?
If you were a master in the art of using the question mark, you would be more wise and less assy.
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It's called Google do you use it?
A loop, by its nature, continues. If that didn't make sense, start reading this sentence again.
No, to make a fair comparison we'd have to go back to Apple II days. But then again Apple fanboys always keep forgetting the details.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
I don't have version 1.0, but I do have version 1.1.
Admittedly weird to reply on my own post, but I just checked: I have a System 1.0 / Finder 1.1g version of MacOS running under vMac.
It appears to run just fine under the latest version of MacOS X.
"Money is a sign of poverty." - Iain Banks
You really need to put this context. Windows 1.0 came out in 1985 with non-overlapping windows. Very odd, since to anyone who was paying attention then, the very word "Windows" mean the overlapping windows developed at Xerox PARC and embodied in machines like the Alto, the Star, the Three Rivers PERQ, etc. To have a system called "Windows" without overlapping windows is missing the point on a grand scale.
IBM's TopView was a multitasking, "character-mode GUI" version of DOS that came out in 1984. DESQview not only beat Windows 1.0, it actually survived and enjoyed a modest success in the following years. I do not remember whether they had overlapping windows or not.
GEM, a genuine full-fledged, GUI with overlapping windows, shipped in 1985 for the 8086. I don't remember it having much success as an OS or user environment, but there was one faintly successful product--was it a desktop publishing program? that actually incorporated GEM as an integral part of the program.
Of course, the Lisa shipped in 1983.
And there was one more, darn it, what was it? Was it from the VisiCalc people? Yes, VisiOn shipped in late 1983, and it, too, was a full-fledged GUI with overlapping windows.
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
http://www.bjornborg.com/
Windows 1 would multi-task DOS applications. It would give up a time slice for each DOS call. There were dummy calls to give up a slice without doing I/O. I used to run compile or run C-ROBOTS in the background on an 800x600 super-EGA display. Of course Windows 2 killed that. Was overlapping windows a big enough deal that we had to give up DOS in a Window?
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I wanted to see my first dead bird but my dog ate it. Fortunately, he threw it back up. I would post the pictures, but unlike jbrodkin, I don't believe in posting pictures of things that are ugly and broken.
Having to work for a living is the root of all evil.
Windows 95 isn't an OS either, it's still just a shell around DOS. Windows NT, now that's an OS.
Pretty good is actually pretty bad.
I didn't mention it both because we haven't seen any fallout yet, and because any self-respecting Linux or FOSS user will already be using a SIP client or some other free alternative. I've been getting all of my landline phone service for the last four years through an SPA-3102, which I'm soon going to replace with a Mesh Potato (which runs Asterisk/OpenWRT).
I wonder if my original two-set OS2-Warp disks will still work in some VM?
Can I light a sig ?
Shills are bad enough. Whining shills are just pure lose. Billy Boy Goats - errrr - GATES left a legacy that will be memorialized in the history books. And, that legacy includes the borg icon. Don't like it? Don't read Microsloth articles on Slashdot - problem solved.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
Not when its something I give 0 fucks about.
Speak for yourself, young kook! I'm as relevant as I - - - now, dammit, what were we arguing about?
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
OK, it only goes back to 6.0.3 for the Mac (but also has some newer ones), and has Apple IIGS and other downloads.. but some of the "newer old" Apple System Software is available at: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA48312
I'd love to see Gates demonstrating Ballmer's ability to perform "Puttin' on the Ritz" to a skeptical theatre audience.
(1.21 gigawatts) / (88 miles per hour) = 30 757 874 newtons
I could go for a Ballmer Zombie instead.
or a chair
This isn't really that difficult.
Here's a screenshot I just made of DOS 3.3 / Windows 1.01 running under QEMU under Ubuntu 11.04.
http://i.imgur.com/lrEf3.png
It may even run under DOSBox, but I've not tried anything earlier than WFW 3.11 in that environment.
I was rather impressed with myself recently getting this running:
Ubuntu 11.04 > VirtualBox 4.0.something > OS/2 Warp4 FP15 > WinOS/2.
That was a challenge!
Meta-bias.
There is a copy of Windows 1.03 SDK floating on the net. Does anyone have tried it (require Microsoft C 4.0, MASM 5.1)?
"Meta-satire?" Really?
I say never attribute to satire that which can be explained by sheer laziness.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Or just a chair in flight
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
There are still some guys around that remember things like Arcnet, RLL drives and ISA bus. Using a paper hole puncher to affect storage capacity. Aww yeah.
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
I could go for a Ballmer Zombie instead.
Ballmer-monkey. (Developers!)
There's no place like
Meh, I still think my idea for an icon is better. picture the iconic Ballmer with his tongue stuck out, wearing an "I heart Apple!" beanie. Considering his "me too!" aping of Apple since he took the helm it would be a perfect fit. I can just imagine him rallying the troops: "And with this new version we'll take the market by storm and be as hip and cool as Apple! yes we will! We really really will! STOP LAUGHING AT ME!!!"
As for TFA...emmm...okay? As someone who started with windows 3 frankly I'm glad those days are gone. TSAs, memory corruption, constant reboots, frankly all the OSes of that period were shit. The fact that with those early machines they were able to squeeze so much into an OS that was that primitive, no memory protection and everything having bare metal access, was a miracle. i think I'll just stay with my nice quad with 8Gb of RAM and Windows 7, where the only time I have to deal with a reboot is when I want to run my really old copy of Cubase in XP. Frankly those days? nothing really "good" about them computing wise IMHO. Might as well be trying to build a punch card reader and hook up some core memory to your Arduino, more interesting that running really old crap OSes.
It would be interesting though to see Linux 1.0, Windows 1.0, and the first MacOS side by side running in VMs, just to see which shits itself and dies first. Most would probably say win 1.0 but I bet it would be the Linux, as the driver support really wasn't there that early in the game.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
nah, topic is just titled wrong. should be "Worlds unemployment in critical levels. People going mad from running out of all useless things to do in their spare unemployed time"
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... that there was an 80186 processor -- Intel's first 16-bit x86 offering. It was popular in embedded applications, but a few workstations based on it were made -- one of them being the Tandy Model 2000, a not-quite-IBM-compatible, MS-DOS-based PC which you could buy at Radio Shack. I owned a second-hand one of these, and even learned how to write assembly on it.
What I didn't learn until recently was that there was a version of Windows for this curious beast, and indeed the 2000 played an integral role in the development of Windows. Unlike its IBM cousins, the 2000 was offered with a high-res, 640x480 color graphics card as a standard option, and Microsoft was interested in implementing a full-color display for Windows. So, Microsoft developed the initial versions of color Windows on the 2000, and Bill Gates touted that fact in celebrity endorsements for Tandy ads.
The much more modular driver architecture of Windows -- a revolution in PC software at the time -- enabled it to be smoothly ported to the Tandy 2000 irrespective of the hardware incompatibilities that made it not a true PC compatible.
N4st0r, trixx0r h0bb1tz0rz! Th3y st0l3 0ur pr3c10uzz!
I have a working TRS-80 Mod 4 portable. Guess I should video tape it running, make a blog, and then post it to slashdot.
At least that OS would be running on original hardware.
Anyone can use an emulator...
Be seeing you...
I still have fond memories of the time I loaded Windows 1.0 on a Zenith PC that someone at work wasn't using any more. Once the installation floppies had all been loaded, I called in my boss and we laughed and laughed. I still recall how much my sides hurt from all that laughing.
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Yeah he looks more like Prosthetnic Vogon Jeltz to me... Acts like it too. And his "Developers!" rant sure fits the mold on Vogon Poetry.
mod parent up
You should also see if you can get the origin of the GUI OS' from xerox. I've never seen it but I'd love to see a review of it!
Well, he certainly did work at MS when Windows 1.0 was written, which is what this story is about... So perhaps the icon is actually appropriate?
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How about an animated GIF of the monkey dance?
thegodmovie.com - watch it
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/SideKick
Was it print.com, that set all this in motion?
Meta-troll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk
Anyone have a copy of the first Macintosh OS they want to send me?
You could try contacting Apple. I know they offer versions of System 7 for download; perhaps they will also provide the original if you ask. I think you will also need a compatible Macintosh ROM to be able to actually run it.
Good luck, and have fun. I've always been impressed with what these programmers of yore managed to accomplish. Imagine, an operating system with a GUI, and applications for image processing and word processing, in 128KB of RAM!
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Please define what an "OS" is.
Did noone except me notice that he tried to open/execute an .ovl file, which of course won't work and then argues that Windows is not working well because of the VM?
What's the deal with Slashdot still using that Bill Gates Borg icon to represent Microsoft? That icon is so dated on both levels these days. Bill Gates hasn't worked at Microsoft in years, and the Borg reference just is no longer current or relevant. Anyone under 25 would hardly get the references.
I agree. Get a Steve Ballmer as Davy Jones icon. Sheesh, you guys. Live in the present.
But this - htthttp://imgur.com/MCxRw - meant that I only got as far as the first page.
Advertising means nothing if your viewers won't come back.
How about an animated...
NO!
GIF of the monkey dance?
An image of the Ballmer monkey would be fine as long as it isn't animated.
Perhaps this image of an old man trying to be cool would work? http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/videogabe/cool_old_man.jpg
Anyone under 25 wouldn't know what the Borg are?
I am 40 and I do not know what Borg are. Hint, I do not live in the USA. Always thought those weird graphics might have had something to do with Darth Vader and the Evil Empire.
This is SPARTA!
I think "Uncle Fester".
-- Braden's law of data: All data spends some of its lifetime in an excel spreadsheet.
This is the year of Windows on the Desktop!
There are people under the age of 35 here?
Get.
Off.
My.
Lawn.
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
I come here multiple times daily, I have no idea what the Borg reference is, Im also 24 years old. I'm either an utter failure or your comment was.
Yes
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Linux: Yesterday's technology, tomorrow
For whom? The million or so Windows Phone 7 fans out there, or the three remaining Nokia fans?
back in the 85-90 days, the amiga kicked ass in all regards.
Looked sexy, ran fast, had lots of ram, its a pitty it didnt get 10x the R&D budget+programmers tho.
Even amiga monitors were sweet looking.
It was the ferrari of computers then.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
It's not laziness; they actually recreated the billg-as-borg icon during one of the redesigns. That's certainly not CmdrTaco's old GIMP image from the 90's.
Have they done a retro-Slashdot (i.e., with the original UI) as an April Fools joke yet?
Save Maine's economy: write stuff down. All comments are exclusively my own, not my employer.
In the past I went through the effort of finding an old version of Windows 1.0, getting it running and playing with it for all of 20 minutes. Interesting to see what they had, what it did, etc. I still have a VM image somewhere with it in case I ever get bored again. However, what I failed to do at the time was find any software that was actually written for Windows 1.0 that didn't come as part of the installation. Searching the internet for 'software for windows 1.0' (or the variety of phrases I thought of) mostly came up with v1.0 releases of software for Windows; i.e. software that could have been for Windows 95 (say), and it was their v1.0 release. Unfortunately, I didn't come across any sites that had any of that old software. As well, I'm not even what was ever even written for Windows 1.0. Best I could tell, I've only heard that one or two applications were ever written for Windows 1.0, but I can't find the binaries on the internet. Though, I believe you could run Windows 2.0 sofware on 1.0 and vice-versa, at least to some extent. In Windows 3.0 they apparently changed things up enough to require rewrites. Anyone ever find anything?
Never hit your grandmother with a shovel, for it leaves a bad impression on her mind...
Besides, if they updated the icon, the new one would probably just be "M$" in stylized text.
The fact that with those early machines they were able to squeeze so much into an OS that was that primitive, no memory protection and everything having bare metal access, was a miracle.
I would not say so, there were others doing better already then - not everyone of them on PC hardware though but equivalent.
In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
Different program... but same purpose. I would guess that the "write.exe proxy to wordpad" is for compatibility as I remember some Win3.x programs launching write to show documentation... Just a guess though but I dont know any other reasonable explanation.
In capitalist USA corporations control the government.