Yes, the Amiga proved what could be done with clever programming and a whole board full of specialized ASIC chips. Which was completely unscalable to the real world of commodity hardware and software. It was a really cool 'boutique' machine.
'Clever' never scales very well, because clever design digs in to take advantage of warts and shine them into features.
In essence, that is why the Amiga could foster a loud proud subculture of users, and also why it could never grow beyond said loud proud subculture.
One can't know complete and utter garbage without checking it out. And I have a safe subnet of machines to run it on. Windows machines don't need to connect to the Internet. Really, that's like the time I drove my '72 Beetle (it had problems, and would only go up to 45 MPH) on the freeway.
I use a paper dictionary all the time. I have one in my office at work. I like being able to just open it up and find the word I want. I also enjoy thumbing through it and reading about words at random.
It takes mere seconds to look up a word in the dictionary. It is ludicrous to claim otherwise.
In the US, 'progressive' is also sometimes a code word used by 'revolutonaries' to refer to themselves.
In that sense, none of the pasty-white do-gooder B.S. that 'liberals' espouse means squat. 'Liberal' translates to 'sometimes useful idiot' in those circles.
Wow. Does that mean that when you've made the last car payment on your vehicle, it ceases to have an asset value? Well, then... I'd like to come over and visit when you make your last car payment on your current vehicle. I'll even buy you a beer while you fill out the title transfer paperwork...
Going back to 'the beginning' (kinda) of Personal Computers, MS-DOS was ALWAYS OEM licensed to a specific computer processor. It was never, ever, possible to buy a retail box version of MS-DOS that didn't come bundled with a PC. It didn't happen, it wasn't possible. If you wanted to run a 'legal' DOS on your homebuild clone box, you had to use PC-DOS from IBM. The single exception that I can think of is that you could buy MS-DOS 5.0 'step up' edition and I believe 6.2 was distributed that way too, in a retail package. But in each instance, it was specifically a 'step up' product that wouldn't install physically and legally unless you already had a licensed copy of an earlier MS-DOS on the machine.
This is hard established fact. Almost from Day 1 most of Microsoft's OS revenue came from deals with OEM hardware vendors.
Even though that new server could do the job of 5 to 10 of the old servers?
It's really weird how it started out with a criticism of the simple act of replacing a motherboard. Now you're saying that with each motherboard failure, the entire workload of the server room should be reapportioned.
Do you have much experience making 'failure event driven' major server hardware/software changes like that? I bet if you do, you've got a userbase who twitch every time they touch their mouse. I can't imagine getting email from the IT staff reading "we had a failure on one of the SQL servers last night. Please be patient as we take down the Mail, File, and Print servers so we can shuffle everything around all at once."
The point might be that these companies don't have any need to install a new device in NT4.
Many companies still use and have serviced copying machines that came from the NT4 era. They're prefectly usable copying machines. Business desktops are considered by many to be a similar type of office equipment. It can be a very successful business practice to treat them as such. Pisses off those of us who want to spend our workday moving icons around on the desktop and installing shit we bring in from home. But we don't get put 'Sponge Bob' stickers on the photocopier, either.
I think we were talking about NT4 on corporate desktops, for the most part. The driver support is better or at least acceptable.
I won't go too deep into a discussion of how I feel about companies that run Windows on servers. I work at such a company at present and can testify to what a horrible mistake it is. But it would probably get shrill as it's such an unbelievably fucked up idea that it's amazing it even works on any enterprise scale.
I know from first hand experience (at work) that it gave me a more sluggish desktop environment. My old machine was a Pentium II Dell Optiplex GS. My new system was a Pentium III Dell Optiplex GX1. The old system ran Windows 2000 fairly well, and kept up with the tasks I put it to (just Office mostly, though I hooked a scanner up and scanned in xrays and other images and whatnot) The new system is just bog slow and lags at annoying points all the time.
About the same amount of memory, a faster process, on the same networked environment. Turgid garbage, that is what XP is.
The fallacy is of course that the pirated version of Windows is 100% identical to the retail one
There, of course, is where you are wrong. Buying a Microsoft product is a process of establishing a business relationship with them. In said relationship, Microsoft agrees to provide (not always timely) updates and some level of support for the product. None of this is provided by a 'pirated' version.
Water was in the air and in a few hours, it is back again.
No, it's in a holding tank, then it's piped into greenhouses, where it evaporates and is reabsorbed. It's much cheaper to reprocess it in a captive environment like that.
A system where it is 'back in the air' is defined as 'economically unviable.' Nearly as irrelevant as desert tortoises and cactus plants.
When you flush a toilet, 'clean' water is pumped into the sewer main, where it's mixed with industrial sewage and rendered toxic and sometimes irrecoverable in a medium-term sense.
You're right that it's a question of purity and distribution, but also one of quantity.
The difference is that this will operate down to 14% humidity. So in other words, you could stick it in the desert and keep the troops watered.
It sounds to me like a piece of technology with the capability of sucking the desert completely dry.
1. Troops show up. 2. Water extraction system installed. 3. Almost ALL humidity sucked out of the air. 4. Every living thing in the desert wilts and dies.
Has there been an environmental impact assessment done on this yet?
Give him a break. He hasn't been follwing the Airbus disaster.
Europe has a lot of nice old cathederals. The only question is wether they'll be converted into Mosques, demolished, or remain the 'historical landmarks' they at present are. (The Taliban has an answer and a wrecking ball to implment it with).
I am waiting for somebody to report the successful implementation of two way firewall tech for such instances. There's no reason why a machine 'inside the firewall' shouldn't also be firewalled away from other machines on the local network. There aren't that many ports that need to remain open between peers within the typical business intranet.
I suspect there are 'managed hubs/switches' to do the job sufficiently. Anybody know?
Once upon a time, trying to keep the government from expanding, and maintaining privacy were right-wing issues.
It will cease to be a left wing, and resume being a right wing issue the next time the administration flips from Republican to Democrat. It's not about right or wrong. It's about politics, and who gets to spend the money in the Community Chest.
You see, the Democrats and the Republicans live in an illusory world where they are the 'left' and 'right' in America. Whereas both are really just composed of different factions of the grown up version of the dweebs who ran the Student Council in High School.
Essentially, someone needs to come along and take away all their toys. But now I am sounding too much like a Libertarian for my own comfort. The 'Libertarians' are the people out smoking in the parking lot. Not the 'regular' people out there, they're the posers in 'rebel' clothing their parents bought them at the mall.
That depends in part on wether you have designated a big chunk of your Capital Equipment Budget to the enrichment of Microsoft, or wether your business has other more profit-oriented capital investments to be making.
I'm sorry. The assumption that hardware/software upgrades are inevitable like taxes is over, or soon will be. If for no other reason than that OSS becomes ever more attractive as endless upgrade cycles become apparent. It's like alternative energy and the cost of oil, where solar power becomes viable once a certain threshold of oil price is reached.
There is no reason to fear certain internet usage in these situations.
You are correct, and what you say makes a lot of sense. But you're still going to face the paternalistic finger waving of IT people outside your organization who have a 'never trust the luser' mentality.
It's refreshing to see you not infused with their cynical bitterness.
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Yes, the Amiga proved what could be done with clever programming and a whole board full of specialized ASIC chips. Which was completely unscalable to the real world of commodity hardware and software. It was a really cool 'boutique' machine.
'Clever' never scales very well, because clever design digs in to take advantage of warts and shine them into features.
In essence, that is why the Amiga could foster a loud proud subculture of users, and also why it could never grow beyond said loud proud subculture.
Right now the Vista RC2.
One can't know complete and utter garbage without checking it out. And I have a safe subnet of machines to run it on. Windows machines don't need to connect to the Internet. Really, that's like the time I drove my '72 Beetle (it had problems, and would only go up to 45 MPH) on the freeway.
Now it's yet again, "Wait until you see what we have planned!" Reminds me of the old days.
Yet, two paragraphs up you said 'they were great.'
So which is it? Was the Amiga a hyped fanbody system in 'the old days' like this current marketing boilerplate makes it sound that it is today?
I always use wget to grab stuff from Microsoft. I can't imagine why I would ever connect to a Microsoft server with any of their insecure OS software.
I use a paper dictionary all the time. I have one in my office at work. I like being able to just open it up and find the word I want. I also enjoy thumbing through it and reading about words at random.
It takes mere seconds to look up a word in the dictionary. It is ludicrous to claim otherwise.
In the US, 'progressive' is also sometimes a code word used by 'revolutonaries' to refer to themselves.
In that sense, none of the pasty-white do-gooder B.S. that 'liberals' espouse means squat. 'Liberal' translates to 'sometimes useful idiot' in those circles.
The computer ceases to have an asset value,
Wow. Does that mean that when you've made the last car payment on your vehicle, it ceases to have an asset value? Well, then... I'd like to come over and visit when you make your last car payment on your current vehicle. I'll even buy you a beer while you fill out the title transfer paperwork...
Going back to 'the beginning' (kinda) of Personal Computers, MS-DOS was ALWAYS OEM licensed to a specific computer processor. It was never, ever, possible to buy a retail box version of MS-DOS that didn't come bundled with a PC. It didn't happen, it wasn't possible. If you wanted to run a 'legal' DOS on your homebuild clone box, you had to use PC-DOS from IBM. The single exception that I can think of is that you could buy MS-DOS 5.0 'step up' edition and I believe 6.2 was distributed that way too, in a retail package. But in each instance, it was specifically a 'step up' product that wouldn't install physically and legally unless you already had a licensed copy of an earlier MS-DOS on the machine.
This is hard established fact. Almost from Day 1 most of Microsoft's OS revenue came from deals with OEM hardware vendors.
Even though that new server could do the job of 5 to 10 of the old servers?
It's really weird how it started out with a criticism of the simple act of replacing a motherboard. Now you're saying that with each motherboard failure, the entire workload of the server room should be reapportioned.
Do you have much experience making 'failure event driven' major server hardware/software changes like that? I bet if you do, you've got a userbase who twitch every time they touch their mouse. I can't imagine getting email from the IT staff reading "we had a failure on one of the SQL servers last night. Please be patient as we take down the Mail, File, and Print servers so we can shuffle everything around all at once."
The point might be that these companies don't have any need to install a new device in NT4.
Many companies still use and have serviced copying machines that came from the NT4 era. They're prefectly usable copying machines. Business desktops are considered by many to be a similar type of office equipment. It can be a very successful business practice to treat them as such. Pisses off those of us who want to spend our workday moving icons around on the desktop and installing shit we bring in from home. But we don't get put 'Sponge Bob' stickers on the photocopier, either.
I think we were talking about NT4 on corporate desktops, for the most part. The driver support is better or at least acceptable.
I won't go too deep into a discussion of how I feel about companies that run Windows on servers. I work at such a company at present and can testify to what a horrible mistake it is. But it would probably get shrill as it's such an unbelievably fucked up idea that it's amazing it even works on any enterprise scale.
I know from first hand experience (at work) that it gave me a more sluggish desktop environment. My old machine was a Pentium II Dell Optiplex GS. My new system was a Pentium III Dell Optiplex GX1. The old system ran Windows 2000 fairly well, and kept up with the tasks I put it to (just Office mostly, though I hooked a scanner up and scanned in xrays and other images and whatnot) The new system is just bog slow and lags at annoying points all the time.
About the same amount of memory, a faster process, on the same networked environment. Turgid garbage, that is what XP is.
The fallacy is of course that the pirated version of Windows is 100% identical to the retail one
There, of course, is where you are wrong. Buying a Microsoft product is a process of establishing a business relationship with them. In said relationship, Microsoft agrees to provide (not always timely) updates and some level of support for the product. None of this is provided by a 'pirated' version.
Water was in the air and in a few hours, it is back again.
No, it's in a holding tank, then it's piped into greenhouses, where it evaporates and is reabsorbed. It's much cheaper to reprocess it in a captive environment like that.
A system where it is 'back in the air' is defined as 'economically unviable.' Nearly as irrelevant as desert tortoises and cactus plants.
When you flush a toilet, 'clean' water is pumped into the sewer main, where it's mixed with industrial sewage and rendered toxic and sometimes irrecoverable in a medium-term sense.
You're right that it's a question of purity and distribution, but also one of quantity.
The difference is that this will operate down to 14% humidity. So in other words, you could stick it in the desert and keep the troops watered.
It sounds to me like a piece of technology with the capability of sucking the desert completely dry.
1. Troops show up.
2. Water extraction system installed.
3. Almost ALL humidity sucked out of the air.
4. Every living thing in the desert wilts and dies.
Has there been an environmental impact assessment done on this yet?
Hey, don't like contributing to society? then leave.
That's an interesting twist on the 'Love it or leave it' motto from the past.
So were you the guy with the baton beating the 'hippies' at the demo in the 60's, or just his ideologic descendent?
Give him a break. He hasn't been follwing the Airbus disaster.
Europe has a lot of nice old cathederals. The only question is wether they'll be converted into Mosques, demolished, or remain the 'historical landmarks' they at present are. (The Taliban has an answer and a wrecking ball to implment it with).
I am waiting for somebody to report the successful implementation of two way firewall tech for such instances. There's no reason why a machine 'inside the firewall' shouldn't also be firewalled away from other machines on the local network. There aren't that many ports that need to remain open between peers within the typical business intranet.
I suspect there are 'managed hubs/switches' to do the job sufficiently. Anybody know?
Run a local network of fibre cable. Much harder to intercept.
Of course, your equipment is all in shielded rooms, we assume.
Don't ask awkward questions. Just send in money to the EFF.
(I sent in less than a dollar a few years ago, and they've spent considerably more than that on mailing to me since)
Once upon a time, trying to keep the government from expanding, and maintaining privacy were right-wing issues.
It will cease to be a left wing, and resume being a right wing issue the next time the administration flips from Republican to Democrat. It's not about right or wrong. It's about politics, and who gets to spend the money in the Community Chest.
You see, the Democrats and the Republicans live in an illusory world where they are the 'left' and 'right' in America. Whereas both are really just composed of different factions of the grown up version of the dweebs who ran the Student Council in High School.
Essentially, someone needs to come along and take away all their toys. But now I am sounding too much like a Libertarian for my own comfort. The 'Libertarians' are the people out smoking in the parking lot. Not the 'regular' people out there, they're the posers in 'rebel' clothing their parents bought them at the mall.
Oh well. . .
That depends in part on wether you have designated a big chunk of your Capital Equipment Budget to the enrichment of Microsoft, or wether your business has other more profit-oriented capital investments to be making.
I'm sorry. The assumption that hardware/software upgrades are inevitable like taxes is over, or soon will be. If for no other reason than that OSS becomes ever more attractive as endless upgrade cycles become apparent. It's like alternative energy and the cost of oil, where solar power becomes viable once a certain threshold of oil price is reached.
There is no reason to fear certain internet usage in these situations.
You are correct, and what you say makes a lot of sense. But you're still going to face the paternalistic finger waving of IT people outside your organization who have a 'never trust the luser' mentality.
It's refreshing to see you not infused with their cynical bitterness.