Unfortunately, not all of us have Windows. I refuse to use Windows and will most certainly not pay for it. So, even if the book did come with CodeWarrior it would be of no use to me.
For the first time I'm actually on AOL's side. I have always hated their software and system for Internet use, however, being sued for this goes beyond their stupid interface. This infringes also on my rights (or possible rights) in the future. Is there anything that can be done to stop stupid filings like this? How I despise people that are clueless about technology and then try to regulate it's use...
I can already do this... I have written procmail recipes that will shutdown my system given the proper set of characters in the subject. So what's so nifty about his patent? I could have it run any arbitrary command that I wanted. Isn't it wonderful how simple things can already be given a bit if *NIX ingenuity.:-)
I'll say only this... if the administrator of these systems chose to use it, all power to him (especially when they require more money for another licensed copy). If the admin had no choice in the matter, then maybe it is time he/she considered a new job.:-)
After reading the article, I must concur---it was and is a very lame article. You shouldn't have posted it as the conclusions that mr moody draws are not at all factual, but merely speculative.
The only thing I didn't like about it. I literally installed every package it had including everything I'll never use:)(the install has a selection for this) And it doesn't have pine!!! Granted I don't use pine for my mail anyway, but for editing I use either pico or joe depending on my mood. no pico or joe. Had to go grab joe and pine off of freshmeat.
You should have sent an email to support@calderasystems.com to get your free support. They would have made your day complete by telling you that pine is on the Installation CD in the contrib directory.:-) Cheers!
This is precisely what Sir Arthur Conan Doyle did with his Sherlock Homes series, though it was a news print that he used to publish the stories, not the Internet. This could work maybe...
I just added yesmail.com to my list of bad domains from which not to accept email. Had they not made such a fuss about RBL I guess this would have never happened. We don't need RBL to block spamming addresses and they can't come after me for blocking them (at least not yet).
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that the White House was receiving funds from whitehouse.com to not ban their site... Kind of like black mail. Or maybe some White House official is being payed off not to make a big fuss about the name.
I knew there would be a good reason not to go to the Olympics when they get here. I sure hope that the NBA and NFL don't get any ideas from the IOC and start hunting down people with basketball, football and any other sport title in their domain name... This is seriously a joke.
Wouldn't this be material for some type of a legal case as well? I mean, if I were a publisher of copyright protected material, I don't think I would want some jerk putting out false product with my name on it. Think about the unsuspecting napster user who has never heard of Metallica and then decides to explore their music. The first thing he downloads is a quack song or something similar.... How much more interested is he going to be in Metallica's music now?!? There are hundreds of thousands of Napster users that will never even know about what is being discussed right now. I'm sure doing even this much to protest isn't legal or even wanted by composers.
Did anyone else notice that the numbering of the points goes..., 50, 45, 51, [next page], 50 (a different 50), 51 (a repeat of the first 51),...? Other than that, I found the ideas somewhat intriguing. I can see how we could benefit from a few of the points. BTW, in UNIX/Linux a file can have more than one name (hard links and symbolic links acheive this).:-)
It looks like your ISP web server has bit the bullet... I keep getting connection refused and other various messages about inavailability. Maybe it's just congestion.:-) At any rate it looks Slashdotted.
This has got to be one of the goofiest things that Clinton has done. Why would I spend my time listening to his Internet Nation address when I could be playing StarCraft or working on my favorite programming project???:-)
This is a very good point. Many times this is the only way to get USWorst to get anything done with the lines. Who should I contact for Rhythms & Phoenix Networks DSL? Is there somewhere that lists which regulators should be contacted for specific services?
I have had a very similar experience with Phoenix Networks and Rhythms DSL providers. I have been with my local ISP for years, however, due to problems with USWest they were unable to offer DSL to my home---even though the guy next door could get it. Finally, after about 8 months of battling USWest I heard of Phoenix Networks & Rhythms through a friend. I decided it couldn't hurt to sign up and after three months they actually delivered. It was great until the first problem. A router went down on alter.net and I was unable to access my email and various other services through their DSL (my local ISP dialup could still access the services). I called up their technical support and they told me it was none of their business since it was 'outside' of their network. I would have been satisfied with a simple, "we know there is a problem and have contacted the owner of..." type answer, but instead I was informed that it was none of their business! In my opinion that translates to "We don't know and don't care for your business." and as soon as I can I am cancelling my business with them. I used them as a last resort for DSL and I certainly got last chance performance out of them. The problem took care of itself after about 12 hours so I was unable to access my email for 12 hours thanks to them---I know, pretty harsh.:-) Hopefully I will be able to use the lines for DSL from my local ISP who are 100 times more competent than the 'Big Boys'.
I haven't ever received one either. I believe that the larger institutions are affected to a much greater degree the common joe luser because they are running large installations of the brooding ground for the virus. The number of single users is much less likely to be affected than the large corporations of Winblose drone installations....
I did basically the same thing. I didn't have any internet access after school let out and needed to find a real ISP. I wanted something that supported shells, UNIX and was reliable. I got an AOL CD, installed, located my ISP in a number of hours and signed up for a real ISP. Have been with them ever since. So, AOL does have it's purpose---helping a user find a better ISP.:-)
If this small program can do all that it did then I can only imagine what the full release will do. Yes, free software is nice, but so are good programs. I don't mind paying if it will do what it does well and apparently, Photogenics does that very well. I don't think this program should be shunned just because it isn't free software---although that would be nice.:-) To compare it to Gimp is also not very practical because the two programs have completely different targets. I would use them both---each has different strengths.
It seems strange that anyone should make any big deal out of the whole affair. So they didn't like the project and the way it was headed anymore. What benefit is it to anyone for them to write up a formal announcement of termination?
Excuse me... 100s of Caldera users has nothing to do with it. This type of reasoning is the classic case of ignorant generalizations---it's this type of stupidity that will harm linux, not 100s of Caldera users. Obviously, the more users, the higher the percentage of clueless users is going to be---no matter which distro is being used. For the record, I know plenty of clueless RedHat users, while the Caldera users that I do know seem to be the ones with the lower degree of cluelessness.
Not such a bad idea if you can train the >= 18 year olds to remember to logout their session before leaving. Disabling cache might be a good option too or something to that effect.
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Unfortunately, not all of us have Windows. I refuse to use Windows and will most certainly not pay for it. So, even if the book did come with CodeWarrior it would be of no use to me.
For the first time I'm actually on AOL's side. I have always hated their software and system for Internet use, however, being sued for this goes beyond their stupid interface. This infringes also on my rights (or possible rights) in the future. Is there anything that can be done to stop stupid filings like this? How I despise people that are clueless about technology and then try to regulate it's use...
It seems that their server is not responding well to the sudden surge in traffic... Anyone have links to pictures on mirrors or something?
I can already do this... I have written procmail recipes that will shutdown my system given the proper set of characters in the subject. So what's so nifty about his patent? I could have it run any arbitrary command that I wanted. Isn't it wonderful how simple things can already be given a bit if *NIX ingenuity. :-)
I'll say only this... if the administrator of these systems chose to use it, all power to him (especially when they require more money for another licensed copy). If the admin had no choice in the matter, then maybe it is time he/she considered a new job. :-)
After reading the article, I must concur---it was and is a very lame article. You shouldn't have posted it as the conclusions that mr moody draws are not at all factual, but merely speculative.
You should have sent an email to support@calderasystems.com to get your free support. They would have made your day complete by telling you that pine is on the Installation CD in the contrib directory. :-) Cheers!
This is precisely what Sir Arthur Conan Doyle did with his Sherlock Homes series, though it was a news print that he used to publish the stories, not the Internet. This could work maybe...
I just added yesmail.com to my list of bad domains from which not to accept email. Had they not made such a fuss about RBL I guess this would have never happened. We don't need RBL to block spamming addresses and they can't come after me for blocking them (at least not yet).
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that the White House was receiving funds from whitehouse.com to not ban their site... Kind of like black mail. Or maybe some White House official is being payed off not to make a big fuss about the name.
I knew there would be a good reason not to go to the Olympics when they get here. I sure hope that the NBA and NFL don't get any ideas from the IOC and start hunting down people with basketball, football and any other sport title in their domain name... This is seriously a joke.
Wouldn't this be material for some type of a legal case as well? I mean, if I were a publisher of copyright protected material, I don't think I would want some jerk putting out false product with my name on it. Think about the unsuspecting napster user who has never heard of Metallica and then decides to explore their music. The first thing he downloads is a quack song or something similar.... How much more interested is he going to be in Metallica's music now?!? There are hundreds of thousands of Napster users that will never even know about what is being discussed right now. I'm sure doing even this much to protest isn't legal or even wanted by composers.
Did anyone else notice that the numbering of the points goes ..., 50, 45, 51, [next page], 50 (a different 50), 51 (a repeat of the first 51), ...? Other than that, I found the ideas somewhat intriguing. I can see how we could benefit from a few of the points. BTW, in UNIX/Linux a file can have more than one name (hard links and symbolic links acheive this). :-)
It looks like your ISP web server has bit the bullet... I keep getting connection refused and other various messages about inavailability. Maybe it's just congestion. :-) At any rate it looks Slashdotted.
This has got to be one of the goofiest things that Clinton has done. Why would I spend my time listening to his Internet Nation address when I could be playing StarCraft or working on my favorite programming project??? :-)
This is a very good point. Many times this is the only way to get USWorst to get anything done with the lines. Who should I contact for Rhythms & Phoenix Networks DSL? Is there somewhere that lists which regulators should be contacted for specific services?
I have had a very similar experience with Phoenix Networks and Rhythms DSL providers. I have been with my local ISP for years, however, due to problems with USWest they were unable to offer DSL to my home---even though the guy next door could get it. Finally, after about 8 months of battling USWest I heard of Phoenix Networks & Rhythms through a friend. I decided it couldn't hurt to sign up and after three months they actually delivered. It was great until the first problem. A router went down on alter.net and I was unable to access my email and various other services through their DSL (my local ISP dialup could still access the services). I called up their technical support and they told me it was none of their business since it was 'outside' of their network. I would have been satisfied with a simple, "we know there is a problem and have contacted the owner of..." type answer, but instead I was informed that it was none of their business! In my opinion that translates to "We don't know and don't care for your business." and as soon as I can I am cancelling my business with them. I used them as a last resort for DSL and I certainly got last chance performance out of them. The problem took care of itself after about 12 hours so I was unable to access my email for 12 hours thanks to them---I know, pretty harsh. :-) Hopefully I will be able to use the lines for DSL from my local ISP who are 100 times more competent than the 'Big Boys'.
Anyone know if there are utilities for the HP 48G?
I haven't ever received one either. I believe that the larger institutions are affected to a much greater degree the common joe luser because they are running large installations of the brooding ground for the virus. The number of single users is much less likely to be affected than the large corporations of Winblose drone installations....
I did basically the same thing. I didn't have any internet access after school let out and needed to find a real ISP. I wanted something that supported shells, UNIX and was reliable. I got an AOL CD, installed, located my ISP in a number of hours and signed up for a real ISP. Have been with them ever since. So, AOL does have it's purpose---helping a user find a better ISP. :-)
If this small program can do all that it did then I can only imagine what the full release will do. Yes, free software is nice, but so are good programs. I don't mind paying if it will do what it does well and apparently, Photogenics does that very well. I don't think this program should be shunned just because it isn't free software---although that would be nice. :-) To compare it to Gimp is also not very practical because the two programs have completely different targets. I would use them both---each has different strengths.
It seems strange that anyone should make any big deal out of the whole affair. So they didn't like the project and the way it was headed anymore. What benefit is it to anyone for them to write up a formal announcement of termination?
Excuse me... 100s of Caldera users has nothing to do with it. This type of reasoning is the classic case of ignorant generalizations---it's this type of stupidity that will harm linux, not 100s of Caldera users. Obviously, the more users, the higher the percentage of clueless users is going to be---no matter which distro is being used. For the record, I know plenty of clueless RedHat users, while the Caldera users that I do know seem to be the ones with the lower degree of cluelessness.
Not such a bad idea if you can train the >= 18 year olds to remember to logout their session before leaving. Disabling cache might be a good option too or something to that effect.
Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. :-)