Even well skilled cashiers take time to gather change out of the drawer. I suspect if you studied this as closely as retailers do, you'd be disappointed. Cash is not automatically faster.
I use Softcard at least once a day. Six seconds to complete the transaction. It takes the cashier longer to open the drawer, put the dollar and three dimes in the drawer and close it. And that requires I leave the penny change. More time if I bring her a dollar, a quarter, a nickel, and wait for the penny.
And the POS is truly a real POS. It takes an extra 2 seconds to complete the transaction that it need not. A regular card takes no longer, save that the swipe takes fractionally longer than my tap.
You've not often been behind someone scrambling to find the right card, much less the last penny for exact change.
âMake a provocative comment and be censured from work, friends and future prospects...â
This already happens, you know. One of my family members is an elementary school teacher. Every budget proposal is CRITICAL!, every election is the future of our nation, and any politician that proposes limiting spending to available revenues is killing education and hates our children!!!
I can't talk politics with her. It's literally her pocketbook. No matter the realities, she is only interested in job.
And I understand. I work in an even more arbitrary environment. Business.
Yes I have read the specs. Contactless mode is not an EMV communication. It doesn't use the chip. It is essentially a mag stripe transaction via RF, similar to NFC.
In contactless mode, mag stripe mode must always be supported, while EMV chip mode is optional.
it looks like book C-5 fully described this, going past the mag stripe mode.
Feh. I wonder if all cards will have RF-activated chips.
The reports were genuine. Trying to link this to some imagined Luddite revolution involving the UKIP is a sad attempt to politicize genuine problems.
I haven't seen too many of that reports lately, but during the introduction ATM fraud was just common enough that the banks largely gave in and restored funds.
Yes. The old women trying to withdraw their pension at the ATM were being defrauded. No, it wasn't millions. Are you defending the banks, or the chip&pin rollout, or just chiming in to be contrary?
There were complaints from many a pensioner that their accounts were emptied, no idea how. Mostly because these old sods were forced into debit cards and had a hard time with the pin. Not hard to shoulder-surf these victims.
Adding shields and such to the ATM didn't maker it easier for the incompetent.
The premise behind chip & signature in the US being the initial deployment is that card holders are not ready to abandon their signature for credit transactions.
Having seen what passes for a signature leads me to doubt this will last very long.
When EMV is fully deployed in the US, then fraud detection will be most effective for card-not-present transactions. You know, Amazon, PayPal, your water bill. Those are the databases to go after.
And eventually most merchants will go to tokenization, converting the card data to an encrypted version that requires a key to decrypt, and said key and encryption method being limited to the intended parties. It can work well.
Google WiFi just showed up at the Starbucks around here. Faster, and if this is Google's entre into a mobile play, then seeding the nation with WiFi is a clever idea.
Starbucks now, then McDonalds, etc, and they will be in business. I would expect lots of retailers could hop on this. And Google gets the first bite of call data.
I agree. It's just that if you don't retain the right to speak freely, and the right to self-defense, many or most of the other rights evaporate at the whim of the powers who can exert violence against you, and no one will either know or be able to resist.
Many of the rights in the Bill of Rights are interdependent. Stifle one, threaten all.
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Even well skilled cashiers take time to gather change out of the drawer. I suspect if you studied this as closely as retailers do, you'd be disappointed. Cash is not automatically faster.
I use Softcard at least once a day. Six seconds to complete the transaction. It takes the cashier longer to open the drawer, put the dollar and three dimes in the drawer and close it. And that requires I leave the penny change. More time if I bring her a dollar, a quarter, a nickel, and wait for the penny.
And the POS is truly a real POS. It takes an extra 2 seconds to complete the transaction that it need not. A regular card takes no longer, save that the swipe takes fractionally longer than my tap.
You've not often been behind someone scrambling to find the right card, much less the last penny for exact change.
Or you live on a pension. I wouldn't like to lose even $500.
âMake a provocative comment and be censured from work, friends and future prospects...â
This already happens, you know. One of my family members is an elementary school teacher. Every budget proposal is CRITICAL!, every election is the future of our nation, and any politician that proposes limiting spending to available revenues is killing education and hates our children!!!
I can't talk politics with her. It's literally her pocketbook. No matter the realities, she is only interested in job.
And I understand. I work in an even more arbitrary environment. Business.
Well, legitimate news reports and court cases, but you're welcome to your opinion of journalism and the legal profession.
Yes I have read the specs. Contactless mode is not an EMV communication. It doesn't use the chip. It is essentially a mag stripe transaction via RF, similar to NFC.
In contactless mode, mag stripe mode must always be supported, while EMV chip mode is optional.
it looks like book C-5 fully described this, going past the mag stripe mode.
Feh. I wonder if all cards will have RF-activated chips.
500EUR is a lot to a pensioner. Often devastating.
This was still happening in 2012
The reports were genuine. Trying to link this to some imagined Luddite revolution involving the UKIP is a sad attempt to politicize genuine problems.
I haven't seen too many of that reports lately, but during the introduction ATM fraud was just common enough that the banks largely gave in and restored funds.
Yes. The old women trying to withdraw their pension at the ATM were being defrauded. No, it wasn't millions. Are you defending the banks, or the chip&pin rollout, or just chiming in to be contrary?
There were complaints from many a pensioner that their accounts were emptied, no idea how. Mostly because these old sods were forced into debit cards and had a hard time with the pin. Not hard to shoulder-surf these victims.
Adding shields and such to the ATM didn't maker it easier for the incompetent.
There is NO CONTACTLESS EMV. That is something else, RFID or NFC.
And not at all the same thing.
The premise behind chip & signature in the US being the initial deployment is that card holders are not ready to abandon their signature for credit transactions.
Having seen what passes for a signature leads me to doubt this will last very long.
When EMV is fully deployed in the US, then fraud detection will be most effective for card-not-present transactions. You know, Amazon, PayPal, your water bill. Those are the databases to go after.
And eventually most merchants will go to tokenization, converting the card data to an encrypted version that requires a key to decrypt, and said key and encryption method being limited to the intended parties. It can work well.
Chip & PIN is a liability shift. You're expected to protect your PIN, so if your account is compromised, you're assumed to be at fault.
Britain has had a lot of trouble with this.
EMV is NOT contactless. If your new card(s) include electrical contacts, It's EMV .
On the one hand, if your grandmother loses her balance and grabs the open door for support, you'll be thankful it does in fact support her weight.
On the other hand, YOUR grandmother might break the wing off a 747.
Google WiFi just showed up at the Starbucks around here. Faster, and if this is Google's entre into a mobile play, then seeding the nation with WiFi is a clever idea.
Starbucks now, then McDonalds, etc, and they will be in business. I would expect lots of retailers could hop on this. And Google gets the first bite of call data.
Pricing 1, Privacy 0.
No, they never did me. WiFi calling was always free minutes, though they disclaim this in advertising in case they change their mind.
And WiFi calling worked well for me always. Lucky I guess.
Clearly you should have been on your way to not only assist in recovery, but directing the redesign to prevent this in the future.
What a were you thinking, posting instead of solving the /.'s world's problems?
My concern isn't that conversation is being gathered continuously. That's necessary according to the system design.
I'm concerned that these snippets are being shared with sponsors, advertisers, or researchers for reasons other than improving recognition.
Typo. Daniel 1:12-16...
that's funny.
...to discern the difference between science and marketing.
Marketing is the force behind much diet, exercise, and fitness advice.
Similar problems with climate change, economics, and energy.
Daniel 1:12-26
Just sayin...
I agree. It's just that if you don't retain the right to speak freely, and the right to self-defense, many or most of the other rights evaporate at the whim of the powers who can exert violence against you, and no one will either know or be able to resist.
Many of the rights in the Bill of Rights are interdependent. Stifle one, threaten all.