"If some legitimate cards are duplicates, then you can't blacklist illegitimate duplicates without killing paying customers, and pissing off paying customers is very bad business."
Couldn't prove it by me. Two recent examples:
DishTV (relevent, I think). I moved across the street. After reinstalling, aiming my dishes, and running the cable, was only able to hit two of the three birds I pay to get, and those only on one of two receivers I pay for. After many calls to their tech support, many frustrating hours of trying different LNBF's and switches (on the advice of their tech support reps), I threatened to go to DirectTV with their free install/two receiver deal. The service rep pretty much said "That's your decision. Go for it."
White Castle. Yeah, the belly bomb place. They recently decided that it's too much trouble to put mustard on your hamburger for you. But they'll happily provide you with mustard packets. One of the neat things about White Castle hamburgers is that they're easy to handle in the truck for lunch on the go. Ever try and open a mustard packet and put it on a hamburger while you're driving? (And the mustard in the packets just isn't as good as what they put on in the store.) THEIR reply when I flat out stated I wouldn't be back until they changed this policy? "We've made this decision because it was taking too long to serve our customers. We hope it doesn't affect your purchasing habits with us." Sounds like a training problem to me. I haven't been back since, and they probably haven't noticed.
Oh, and don't even get me started on the Kroger card, lol. They probably don't miss my business either.
Election is coming. Are those that don't want to pay taxes voting for the folks that raise them?
Vote libertarian if you have a chance!!
Re:The FBI exists only for the FBI's sake
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LMAO. The parent comment needs to be modded UP. Where are my mod points when I need them?
Re:article illustrated something about family...
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More than likely, his parents were like mine; they hadn't a clue as to what he was doing.
I HAD good parents. I was taken to church every Sunday/Wednesday without fail. I was made to do my homework, and eat dinner at the table. Of course, there was no such thing as a home computer then, and I don't know how my parents would have handled that, if there were.
I got ratted out by my little sister for growing pot in my bedroom when she came home for Christmas break from college once. (I was getting a hop on the spring growing season, lol). I wrecked a couple of cars in the 70's whilst hitting the disco's. I knew what I needed to keep from my parents, and did so.
I've never had children of my own, but I suspect that today's kids are no different than I was then. I had "Ward and June" for parents. It wasn't hard to keep things from them. They came from a different era; they weren't prepared for what a teenage male growing up in the 70's would do.
THEY weren't shitty parents. I wasn't a case of gross negligence. Both my sisters turned out fine, lol. Even I turned out fine after the Navy made me grow up. You can't ALWAYS blame the parents.
This all said, I WOULD blame these parents. But I'd think twice about calling the parent poster's parents as 'pretty shitty'.
As a matter of fact, I wonder about YOUR parents! You're pretty quick to jump to judgement, and your LANGUAGE still isn't acceptable in polite company.
Grab a clue. Live and let live. But I forget;/.r's can't do that. LOL.
Mod him up. This guy seems to be the only one that gets it. If these search warrants are anywhere close to a 'fishing expedition', having an officer present for EACH search is going to cut down on 'going fishing'. If the FBI/CIA/Court System has a couple of dozen officers cooling their heels while three or four dozen search warrants are being executed, well... I say have one officer present for every five search warrants. That ought to cost them some manpower!
As a former sys admin, I know where you're coming from. It's SO much easier if none of your users know jack shit about computers... Hey, ya know what you need? Green screens. Yeah, dumb terminals; that's the ticket. None of those annoying 'net problems because, well, face it... your users don't wanna read, they just wanna look at pictures.
As a former sys admin, I was also responsible for our current sys admin's nickname: 'IT Nazi'. It's what your co-workers call YOU behind your back.
Does Godwin's law apply on/.?
I work for an AOL/TW subsidiary, (I'm really NOT evil, just no prospects out there right now!) and all our servers are named after Looney Tunes: Elmer, Bugs, Foghorn, etc.
Except for the one sitting under MY desk. It's named Tux.
LMAO...
I pulled liberty in Mogadishu in the early '80's while I was in the USN. It's very close to the most backwards place I've ever been in my life!
Yeah, that would be perfect for Jack... I share your dream.
Laughing my ass off here. I was "on-line" for 13 years before I ever used a Microsoft OS. You see, way back when, we had a choice when it came to computers. And not just the choices you mention; you had Radio Shack's TRS-80 line, Commodore's VIC-20, C=64, and Pet lines, Atari 800's, etc. etc. etc.
I've got a closet full of old 'Byte' magazines that date back to 1981. The ads in those old magazines are a real eye-opener. Microsoft HAS "done a great injustice to the world of computing and to the world at large by its flagrant anti-competitive behavior". Our current lack of choice vis-a-vis computing platforms is proof enough.
I'm no AOL lover, but really, guy, wake up and smell the coffee. Better yet, bone up on your computing history... and come back and talk when YOU grow up. There might actually be a conversation worth having then.
Well, it was a choice between moderating, and responding, so...
I happen to work for an AOL/TW subsidiary as a programmer analyst. AOL wasn't in the picture when I hired on; I was just as dismayed as any other/.'r would have been when I found I would be working for the 'Dark Side'.
But I didn't cut my hair, and I didn't shave my beard.
And I DO still have that mortgage payment to make, that monthly DSL bill to pay, and animals to feed.
'Nuff said...
5. Making the source code generally available is perhaps *the* best way to prod the vendors into fixing *lots* of holes in their systems, not just the ones exploited by the worm.
Face it, we all know how vendors behave -- everyone does the least work possible, subject to the vocalness of their customers' demands. Several people have already stated that they knew of the hole in sendmail for many years and they just chalked it up to the net being composed of benign people. Since it wasn't generally known (I didn't know about it, for example) there was no general cry to fix it, and it lay open long enough for Morris to come along and exploit it.
6. I found it ironic to read that the elder Morris recently submitted a paper on UNIX security for publication, but his employer squelched it. Who knows what was in that paper? Perhaps, just perhaps, maybe it contained a description of the hole in sendmail, among other things. Perhaps, just perhaps, Robert Jr., learned of this hole from his dad. Perhaps if that paper had been published, people would have taken steps to protect themselves before the younger Morris had unleashed his worm.
In sum: SECURITY THROUGH OBSCURITY JUST DOESN'T WORK!
I was out shopping for the future inlaws Christmas gift this weekend, in the casino games section at Best Buy. We were looking at several different slots games, and my eyes kind of got wide when I saw the banner on the corner of the box; Windows and Linux.
I took home two copies; one for them and one for me (I like to play video poker, lol). It's not blow your doors awesome like Wolfenstein, but at 19.95 they've put out a VERY realistic slot machine game. Rated pretty highly by Casino Player Magazine, too.
I was online in '84 with a C=64 and a 300 baud modem in San Diego. Had some great fun there. Still remember the shock when I upgraded to a 1200 baud when I got a C=128; "Damn, this is fast" I thought.
Those were the days indeed.
Now, with my ADSL, I'm grabbing RedHat/Mandrake iso images without a second thought.
I dread, and can foresee a time, however, when I'll think that THESE were the days. Too many legislators needing to justify their existance!
the point is, the government provides a lot of services. most of them are valuable. you may not like them or agree with their value, and you are free to express your dissenting opinion.
Let's see, the government(s) I live under take over 40% of what I "earn". (And that's a conservative estimate!)
They give part of that 40%, in the form of Food Stamps, to the lady across town who's too fat to work but still needs her daily 1/2 gallon ice cream fix (don't tell me it doesn't happen; I've been behind her in the grocery checkout line!)
Re:BASIC is a "nice" language for beginners ...
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As someone who spends 50% of each working day in a line oriented 'Basic' environment (the UniData database), I must speak up here.
GOTO's and spaghetti code are produced by the programmer, not the language. It's not hard to produce structured, easily maintained code in Basic.
C has its own GOTO, you know. Nobody forces you to use it, however!
Unless EVERY program on your W2K box is written in Visual Basic (and I have doubts about it as well), you're just as open to an sprintf vulnerability as any *nix box.
But... what if 'letting loose' meant revocation of all the idiotic software and business model patents that have cropped in the past few years? What if 'letting loose' mean restoring the copyright laws to terms, that our founding Congress fathers were comfortable with?
What if 'letting loose' meant you got to take home 100% of what you "make" each week, and coincidentally ended corporate welfare and influence at the same time?
The libertarians are about one thing, and one thing only, more - not less - freedom from government intervention in our lives.
How many of you guys got kicked off Napster, courtesy of our government's courts? Harry Browne felt THAT decision should have been left to the marketplace!
How about DeCSS; shouldn't THAT be a marketplace issue as well? Let's see, I can pay $99.95 for a Windows program to play 'The Matrix', or I can use this DeCSS derivative free player to do the same thing. Which one do I use? That's a marketplace decision! Duhh, which one do I go with?
Harry Browne is the Libertarian party's candidate for President this year; If you're interested in IP issues or the dilution of our First and Second Amendment rights, you OWE it to yourself to at least check him out.
If you choose the easy way out, if you vote for the "lesser of two evils" because you'll be throwing your vote away otherwise, well, you've only got yourself to blame when Slashdot gets shut down a year and a half from now for "illegal linking."
Can't happen? Already has; find a link to DeCSS on 2600.
Face it folks, this Open Source crowd is nothing but a bunch of pirates and thieves, and this Slashdot site is always linking and posting all this "subversive" material.
You've got nothing to lose! Visit Harry Browne's site and decide for yourself.
Seriously, I've just read not one, but THREE stories on Slashdot that indicate to me that the US Government is DANGEROUSLY OUT OF CONTROL.
Is there a full moon out tonight?
I, for one, am fed up with lawyers, corporations and unelected beaurocrats running the government that supposedly belongs to the people.
I'm tired of seeing court rulings and laws slanting towards the MONEY, and away from the people.
I'm tired of the Republicans, and I'm especially tired of the Democrats. There's not a bit of difference between them anymore. Both parties feel they know better how to run my life, and take 35% of my weekly paycheck to do so.
From what I've been reading lately, things aren't much better in Canada, Great Britain or Australia.
And forget about Singapore!
It's time for a GLOBAL tea party... a tea party that will make the WTO protests look like a stroll in the park.
For those of you in the US, I urge you to not walk, but RUN to the Libertarian Party's site and Harry Browne's site. Please DON'T opt for the lesser of two evils in this election; we're at a crossroads here, and whoever is elected next will have a lot of influence on which of the roads we travel down.
If you don't believe in either of the two major candidates, send them a message this November. Vote for a third party candidate. Even if your candidate doesn't win, you're sending the winner a message that you're not happy with the status quo!
Folks, the articles I've read here tonight tell me that this is WAY beyond Open Source vs. Microsoft or KDE vs. Gnome. This is about rights (for those of us in the US) being trampled on that our founding fathers saw were basic for human beings.
Don't let the corporations strip us of these basic rights!!
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"If some legitimate cards are duplicates, then you can't blacklist illegitimate duplicates without killing paying customers, and pissing off paying customers is very bad business."
Couldn't prove it by me. Two recent examples:
DishTV (relevent, I think). I moved across the street. After reinstalling, aiming my dishes, and running the cable, was only able to hit two of the three birds I pay to get, and those only on one of two receivers I pay for. After many calls to their tech support, many frustrating hours of trying different LNBF's and switches (on the advice of their tech support reps), I threatened to go to DirectTV with their free install/two receiver deal. The service rep pretty much said "That's your decision. Go for it."
White Castle. Yeah, the belly bomb place. They recently decided that it's too much trouble to put mustard on your hamburger for you. But they'll happily provide you with mustard packets. One of the neat things about White Castle hamburgers is that they're easy to handle in the truck for lunch on the go. Ever try and open a mustard packet and put it on a hamburger while you're driving? (And the mustard in the packets just isn't as good as what they put on in the store.) THEIR reply when I flat out stated I wouldn't be back until they changed this policy? "We've made this decision because it was taking too long to serve our customers. We hope it doesn't affect your purchasing habits with us." Sounds like a training problem to me. I haven't been back since, and they probably haven't noticed.
Oh, and don't even get me started on the Kroger card, lol. They probably don't miss my business either.
Election is coming. Are those that don't want to pay taxes voting for the folks that raise them? Vote libertarian if you have a chance!!
LMAO. The parent comment needs to be modded UP. Where are my mod points when I need them?
More than likely, his parents were like mine; they hadn't a clue as to what he was doing.
/.r's can't do that. LOL.
I HAD good parents. I was taken to church every Sunday/Wednesday without fail. I was made to do my homework, and eat dinner at the table. Of course, there was no such thing as a home computer then, and I don't know how my parents would have handled that, if there were.
I got ratted out by my little sister for growing pot in my bedroom when she came home for Christmas break from college once. (I was getting a hop on the spring growing season, lol). I wrecked a couple of cars in the 70's whilst hitting the disco's. I knew what I needed to keep from my parents, and did so.
I've never had children of my own, but I suspect that today's kids are no different than I was then. I had "Ward and June" for parents. It wasn't hard to keep things from them. They came from a different era; they weren't prepared for what a teenage male growing up in the 70's would do.
THEY weren't shitty parents. I wasn't a case of gross negligence. Both my sisters turned out fine, lol. Even I turned out fine after the Navy made me grow up. You can't ALWAYS blame the parents.
This all said, I WOULD blame these parents. But I'd think twice about calling the parent poster's parents as 'pretty shitty'.
As a matter of fact, I wonder about YOUR parents! You're pretty quick to jump to judgement, and your LANGUAGE still isn't acceptable in polite company.
Grab a clue. Live and let live. But I forget;
Oh well, life goes on, and then it doesn't...
Awwwwww. Too bad.
Mod him up. This guy seems to be the only one that gets it. If these search warrants are anywhere close to a 'fishing expedition', having an officer present for EACH search is going to cut down on 'going fishing'. If the FBI/CIA/Court System has a couple of dozen officers cooling their heels while three or four dozen search warrants are being executed, well... I say have one officer present for every five search warrants. That ought to cost them some manpower!
As a former sys admin, I know where you're coming from. It's SO much easier if none of your users know jack shit about computers... Hey, ya know what you need? Green screens. Yeah, dumb terminals; that's the ticket. None of those annoying 'net problems because, well, face it... your users don't wanna read, they just wanna look at pictures. As a former sys admin, I was also responsible for our current sys admin's nickname: 'IT Nazi'. It's what your co-workers call YOU behind your back. Does Godwin's law apply on /.?
I work for an AOL/TW subsidiary, (I'm really NOT evil, just no prospects out there right now!) and all our servers are named after Looney Tunes: Elmer, Bugs, Foghorn, etc. Except for the one sitting under MY desk. It's named Tux.
LMAO... I pulled liberty in Mogadishu in the early '80's while I was in the USN. It's very close to the most backwards place I've ever been in my life! Yeah, that would be perfect for Jack... I share your dream.
Laughing my ass off here. I was "on-line" for 13 years before I ever used a Microsoft OS. You see, way back when, we had a choice when it came to computers. And not just the choices you mention; you had Radio Shack's TRS-80 line, Commodore's VIC-20, C=64, and Pet lines, Atari 800's, etc. etc. etc. I've got a closet full of old 'Byte' magazines that date back to 1981. The ads in those old magazines are a real eye-opener. Microsoft HAS "done a great injustice to the world of computing and to the world at large by its flagrant anti-competitive behavior". Our current lack of choice vis-a-vis computing platforms is proof enough. I'm no AOL lover, but really, guy, wake up and smell the coffee. Better yet, bone up on your computing history... and come back and talk when YOU grow up. There might actually be a conversation worth having then.
Well, it was a choice between moderating, and responding, so... I happen to work for an AOL/TW subsidiary as a programmer analyst. AOL wasn't in the picture when I hired on; I was just as dismayed as any other /.'r would have been when I found I would be working for the 'Dark Side'.
But I didn't cut my hair, and I didn't shave my beard.
And I DO still have that mortgage payment to make, that monthly DSL bill to pay, and animals to feed.
'Nuff said...
From a Phil Karn comment in November, 1988...
5. Making the source code generally available is perhaps *the* best way to prod the vendors into fixing *lots* of holes in their systems, not just the ones exploited by the worm.
Face it, we all know how vendors behave -- everyone does the least work possible, subject to the vocalness of their customers' demands. Several people have already stated that they knew of the hole in sendmail for many years and they just chalked it up to the net being composed of benign people. Since it wasn't generally known (I didn't know about it, for example) there was no general cry to fix it, and it lay open long enough for Morris to come along and exploit it.
6. I found it ironic to read that the elder Morris recently submitted a paper on UNIX security for publication, but his employer squelched it. Who knows what was in that paper? Perhaps, just perhaps, maybe it contained a description of the hole in sendmail, among other things. Perhaps, just perhaps, Robert Jr., learned of this hole from his dad. Perhaps if that paper had been published, people would have taken steps to protect themselves before the younger Morris had unleashed his worm.
In sum: SECURITY THROUGH OBSCURITY JUST DOESN'T WORK!
It broke a record here; I've seen it twice since it came out. The last movie I actually went to see in a theatre was "Sneakers", in 1993, I think.
Geez, $5 for a Mountain Dew... I think I'll stick to my home theatre!
And you're smoking what???
AOL is now AOL/Time-Warner, does that ring any bells, like maybe a five-alarm fire would ring bells?
Damn, blew away moderator points earlier today!!
Mod UP! I've put my money where my mouth is; I donated $100 to EFF last year. I donate $20 a month to the Libertarian party.
Face it... at least in the USA, it ain't bits and bytes that grease the wheels, it's the GREENBACKS...
I was out shopping for the future inlaws Christmas gift this weekend, in the casino games section at Best Buy. We were looking at several different slots games, and my eyes kind of got wide when I saw the banner on the corner of the box; Windows and Linux.
I took home two copies; one for them and one for me (I like to play video poker, lol). It's not blow your doors awesome like Wolfenstein, but at 19.95 they've put out a VERY realistic slot machine game. Rated pretty highly by Casino Player Magazine, too.
I was online in '84 with a C=64 and a 300 baud modem in San Diego. Had some great fun there. Still remember the shock when I upgraded to a 1200 baud when I got a C=128; "Damn, this is fast" I thought.
Those were the days indeed.
Now, with my ADSL, I'm grabbing RedHat/Mandrake iso images without a second thought.
I dread, and can foresee a time, however, when I'll think that THESE were the days. Too many legislators needing to justify their existance!
Support the EFF!
Compared to the two of you, I'm definitely a johnny-come-lately!
Let's see, the government(s) I live under take over 40% of what I "earn". (And that's a conservative estimate!)
They give part of that 40%, in the form of Food Stamps, to the lady across town who's too fat to work but still needs her daily 1/2 gallon ice cream fix (don't tell me it doesn't happen; I've been behind her in the grocery checkout line!)
Yeah, that's a valuable service!
Vote!
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As someone who spends 50% of each working day in a line oriented 'Basic' environment (the UniData database), I must speak up here. GOTO's and spaghetti code are produced by the programmer, not the language. It's not hard to produce structured, easily maintained code in Basic. C has its own GOTO, you know. Nobody forces you to use it, however!
Unless EVERY program on your W2K box is written in Visual Basic (and I have doubts about it as well), you're just as open to an sprintf vulnerability as any *nix box.
Heh, heh, heh...
What if 'letting loose' meant you got to take home 100% of what you "make" each week, and coincidentally ended corporate welfare and influence at the same time?
The libertarians are about one thing, and one thing only, more - not less - freedom from government intervention in our lives.
How many of you guys got kicked off Napster, courtesy of our government's courts? Harry Browne felt THAT decision should have been left to the marketplace!
How about DeCSS; shouldn't THAT be a marketplace issue as well? Let's see, I can pay $99.95 for a Windows program to play 'The Matrix', or I can use this DeCSS derivative free player to do the same thing. Which one do I use? That's a marketplace decision! Duhh, which one do I go with?
Harry Browne is the Libertarian party's candidate for President this year; If you're interested in IP issues or the dilution of our First and Second Amendment rights, you OWE it to yourself to at least check him out.
If you choose the easy way out, if you vote for the "lesser of two evils" because you'll be throwing your vote away otherwise, well, you've only got yourself to blame when Slashdot gets shut down a year and a half from now for "illegal linking."
Can't happen? Already has; find a link to DeCSS on 2600.
Face it folks, this Open Source crowd is nothing but a bunch of pirates and thieves, and this Slashdot site is always linking and posting all this "subversive" material.
You've got nothing to lose! Visit Harry Browne's site and decide for yourself.
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Dave Walker
I basically just posted the same thing; you just said it better.
Maybe we could combine your post with mine, and THEN we'd have a "Global Boston Tea Party"!
Seriously, I've just read not one, but THREE stories on Slashdot that indicate to me that the US Government is DANGEROUSLY OUT OF CONTROL.
Is there a full moon out tonight?
I, for one, am fed up with lawyers, corporations and unelected beaurocrats running the government that supposedly belongs to the people. I'm tired of seeing court rulings and laws slanting towards the MONEY, and away from the people. I'm tired of the Republicans, and I'm especially tired of the Democrats. There's not a bit of difference between them anymore. Both parties feel they know better how to run my life, and take 35% of my weekly paycheck to do so.
From what I've been reading lately, things aren't much better in Canada, Great Britain or Australia. And forget about Singapore!
It's time for a GLOBAL tea party... a tea party that will make the WTO protests look like a stroll in the park.
For those of you in the US, I urge you to not walk, but RUN to the Libertarian Party's site and Harry Browne's site. Please DON'T opt for the lesser of two evils in this election; we're at a crossroads here, and whoever is elected next will have a lot of influence on which of the roads we travel down.
If you don't believe in either of the two major candidates, send them a message this November. Vote for a third party candidate. Even if your candidate doesn't win, you're sending the winner a message that you're not happy with the status quo!
Folks, the articles I've read here tonight tell me that this is WAY beyond Open Source vs. Microsoft or KDE vs. Gnome. This is about rights (for those of us in the US) being trampled on that our founding fathers saw were basic for human beings. Don't let the corporations strip us of these basic rights!!
Dave Walker