Re:Pray Or Meditate Or Whatever For President Bush
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QUADRUPLE D'OH - The PIQ (Post In Question) has vanished again...
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TRIPLE D'OH - Now the original "full metal jacket" post IS visible again IN THE THREAD!!! Maybe they made it invisible only until this news item became non-current??? Somehow this post has become a hot potato behind the scenes at Slashdot and they have pulled it for a while and now it's back....an interesting real-time exercise in free speech...
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DOUBLE D'OH...Well, the true situation is even more convoluted - and Slashdot HAS effectively censored the post after all. Your link DOES bring up the original post - but you can't find the original post IN THE THREAD. It's not just above the "Seriously, I'm curious" post where it should be, and it's not down in the -1 dreck either. Somehow it must be at -1 just above the "Seriously, I'm curious" post and INVISIBLE.
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D'OH!!! CORRECTION!!! You are right and I am wrong! That IS the original post! Slashdot Rocks! Free Speech Lives! Hooray!!! Something interesting, tho (and what threw me off) is that Taco or somebody on the Slash Team disconected this post from the ones under it so the original post about "full metal jacket" sank to -1 and all the ones under it stayed up here near the top of the thread. Or maybe that's an automatic feature of Slashcode?
Re:Pray Or Meditate Or Whatever For President Bush
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And WTF are the two of us doing up at this ungodly hour of the morning on a Saturday no less? We have got to get lives...
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Wrong - What your link points to is a post by somebody else that quotes ***only the first sentence*** of the post I'm refering to...and THAT one is gone, poof, censored.
Actually, the crash of a plane occurred at the end of Debt of Honor and was also referred to at the beginning of Executive Orders. The Colorado nuke scene is the climax of The Sum Of All Fears. Ole Tom will have trouble topping what's happening these past few days and in the weeks to come....
Re:Pray Or Meditate Or Whatever For President Bush
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Wow - a Slashdot post gone, poof, censored. I'm impressed. The Secret Service moves pretty fast...
Re:Pray Or Meditate Or Whatever For President Bush
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Or they will think the threshhold is lowered and use US actions as an excuse for their own nuclear antics now or later....
The actual quotes here are even more worrisome than I thought.....
Tears welling in his eyes, Bush spoke of a need to win the battle against terrorism.
"I'm a loving guy. And I am also someone, however, who's got a job to do and I intend to do it. And this is a terrible moment," Bush said.
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said the administration's retaliation would be "sustained and broad and effective" and that the United States "will use all our resources."
"All our resources" includes nukes.....
Re:Pray Or Meditate Or Whatever For President Bush
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Let us know, please, just how long it takes the Secret Service to contact you about this post. Seriously, I'm curious.
Great job on coverage, but how about starting a thread where all the slasdotters can vent on WTC without going offtopic? We need it...
Pray Or Meditate Or Whatever For President Bush
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Folks, I've got a very very bad feeling and if it's true then the worst is yet to come and President Bush is going to need all the support he can get. The other day when he got off the phone from the mayor and governor of New York (neither of which I can spell), President Bush started speaking off the cuff (undoubtably to the horror of his PR people) and after rambling a little he said, "...I'm a likable guy....but I've got a job to do...and I'm going to do it..." and he said this with tears in his eyes. Several people in my office including me think they've decided to use a nuke and Bush is getting shook up about how HE is the one who is going to go down in history for authorizing it. This is a terrible burden for him, no matter what. He deserves your thoughts and support....
Agreed. The moderation seems to have a very definite slant even if the post is strongly worded but dead serious... but at least it's still in there somewhere, at the bottom. Guess that's free speech. Go, Slashdot!
This article in USA Today says yes, it's delayed along with lots of other stuff...especially the Spiderman preview trailer with the WTC...somebody better mirror this fast!!!
Re:Hatred against muslims
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I absolutely agree that striking out against somebody just because they are Islamic is wrong. I hope some of the first wave of US troops going in to clean up this mess is wearing some dogtags that say Muhammed just like there were dogtags that said Pirelli and Schmitt in World War II. I really, really hope we can do better than Japanese-American interrment camps this time around, and that innocent Arab-Americans are treated as the red-blooded all-Americans they really are. I think that its way past time for Anglo-Americans like me to read books like the ones you suggest, figure out who the real enemy is, and focus on them and them alone. The fact that they are some branch of Muslim should be as irrelevent as what types of Protestant religions are practiced by the guys we paratroop in on them. The fact they are Muslim is almost not relevant. The fact that they represent evil forces of chaos is.
I laughed out loud when I read this - and yet, it shows EXACTLY the kind of attitude we have got to overcome. After WTC, it's no longer NIMBY. Otherwise, you're gonna wake up one morning and instead of your city being mentioned at random in some stupid Slashdot post, it will be on CNN instead...
Re:Islamic fundamentalism
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I absolutely agree that striking out against somebody just because they are Islamic is wrong. I hope some of the first wave of US troops going in to clean up this mess is wearing some dogtags that say Muhammed just like there were dogtags that said Pirelli and Schmitt in World War II. I really, really hope we can do better than Japanese-American interrment camps this time around, and that innocent Arab-Americans are treated as the red-blooded all-Americans they really are. I think that its way past time for Anglo-Americans like me to read books like the ones you suggest, figure out who the real enemy is, and focus on them and them alone. The fact that they are some branch of Muslim should be as irrelevent as what types of Protestant religions are practiced by the guys we paratroop in on them. The fact they are Muslim is almost irrelevant. The fact that they represent evil forces of chaos is.
I propose to clobber the launch site while they are building the missile. If we wait until it has launched, we have waited too long. Spending the money a defense shield would cost on some military operations run by Colin Powell instead would be a FAR better use of the money. Would I have said this Monday? No. But this is Thursday...and yes, I know Powell is SECSTATE. I just think he needs to dig his old uniform out of the closet...he understands how to keep this from becoming another Vietnam style quagmire. Go in, kick butt, come home.
That means it wasn't Pakistan behind this mess. If whoever was behind it had nukes, they would have used them. Those are the guys I want us to get, and fast. Pakistan can be Muslim and have nukes and be a perfectly legitimate member of the world community that doesn't have to always or even a majority of the time agree with the US. I have no problem with that.
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Last night I saw a survivor interview that the guy ended with the statement, almost in tears, "Why can't you keep your stupid wars over there?" These events show that the war was NEVER just "over there". But if it's going to be fought with American casualties, then by God I want it fought in some desert in the middle of nowhere instead of downtown Manhattan. We have conquered dozens of nations, installed rational govenments and come home against far more organized opponents than this. We can do it again, and should. Islamic fundamentalism is just as dangerous to the world as National Socialism (Nazi) ever was. FORGET THE MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD - WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THESE GUYS COLD ***NOW*** BEFORE THEY GET NUKES. If we don't, then in ten or twenty years instaed of four jetliners it's going to be FOUR CRATERS where San Francisco, Boston, Miami and Chicago used to be, delivered by boats smuggling plutonium instead of cocaine. Yes, I know we don't have a target today and we must not go off half cocked. But when we get a target, a plan and resources ready, we must GO!
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The more I think about this, the more I think the WTC/Pentagon disaster is an early warning just like Pearl Harbor. Americans in both the 1930s and the 1990s were effectively isolationist. Last night I saw a survivor interview that the guy ended with the statement, almost in tears, "Why can't you keep your stupid wars over there?" These events show that the war was NEVER just "over there". But if it's going to be fought with American casualties, then by God I want it fought in some desert in the middle of nowhere instead of downtown Manhattan. We have conquered dozens of nations, installed rational govenments and come home against far more organized opponents than this. We can do it again, and should. Islamic fundamentalism is just as dangerous to the world as National Socialism (Nazi) ever was. FORGET THE MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD - WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THESE GUYS COLD ***NOW*** BEFORE THEY GET NUKES. If we don't, then in ten or twenty years instaed of four jetliners it's going to be FOUR CRATERS where San Francisco, Boston, Miami and Chicago used to be, delivered by boats smuggling plutonium instead of cocaine. Yes, I know we don't have a target today and we must not go off half cocked. But when we get a target, a plan and resources ready, we must GO!
Slashdot Mirror
QUADRUPLE D'OH - The PIQ (Post In Question) has vanished again...
TRIPLE D'OH - Now the original "full metal jacket" post IS visible again IN THE THREAD!!! Maybe they made it invisible only until this news item became non-current??? Somehow this post has become a hot potato behind the scenes at Slashdot and they have pulled it for a while and now it's back....an interesting real-time exercise in free speech...
DOUBLE D'OH...Well, the true situation is even more convoluted - and Slashdot HAS effectively censored the post after all. Your link DOES bring up the original post - but you can't find the original post IN THE THREAD. It's not just above the "Seriously, I'm curious" post where it should be, and it's not down in the -1 dreck either. Somehow it must be at -1 just above the "Seriously, I'm curious" post and INVISIBLE.
D'OH!!! CORRECTION!!! You are right and I am wrong! That IS the original post! Slashdot Rocks! Free Speech Lives! Hooray!!! Something interesting, tho (and what threw me off) is that Taco or somebody on the Slash Team disconected this post from the ones under it so the original post about "full metal jacket" sank to -1 and all the ones under it stayed up here near the top of the thread. Or maybe that's an automatic feature of Slashcode?
And WTF are the two of us doing up at this ungodly hour of the morning on a Saturday no less? We have got to get lives...
Wrong - What your link points to is a post by somebody else that quotes ***only the first sentence*** of the post I'm refering to...and THAT one is gone, poof, censored.
Actually, the crash of a plane occurred at the end of Debt of Honor and was also referred to at the beginning of Executive Orders. The Colorado nuke scene is the climax of The Sum Of All Fears. Ole Tom will have trouble topping what's happening these past few days and in the weeks to come....
Wow - a Slashdot post gone, poof, censored. I'm impressed. The Secret Service moves pretty fast...
Or they will think the threshhold is lowered and use US actions as an excuse for their own nuclear antics now or later....
The actual quotes here are even more worrisome than I thought.....
Tears welling in his eyes, Bush spoke of a need to win the battle against terrorism.
"I'm a loving guy. And I am also someone, however, who's got a job to do and I intend to do it. And this is a terrible moment," Bush said.
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said the administration's retaliation would be "sustained and broad and effective" and that the United States "will use all our resources."
"All our resources" includes nukes.....
Let us know, please, just how long it takes the Secret Service to contact you about this post. Seriously, I'm curious.
Great job on coverage, but how about starting a thread where all the slashdotters can vent on WTC without going offtopic? We need it...
Great job on coverage, but how about starting a thread where all the slasdotters can vent on WTC without going offtopic? We need it...
Folks, I've got a very very bad feeling and if it's true then the worst is yet to come and President Bush is going to need all the support he can get. The other day when he got off the phone from the mayor and governor of New York (neither of which I can spell), President Bush started speaking off the cuff (undoubtably to the horror of his PR people) and after rambling a little he said, "...I'm a likable guy....but I've got a job to do...and I'm going to do it..." and he said this with tears in his eyes. Several people in my office including me think they've decided to use a nuke and Bush is getting shook up about how HE is the one who is going to go down in history for authorizing it. This is a terrible burden for him, no matter what. He deserves your thoughts and support....
Agreed. The moderation seems to have a very definite slant even if the post is strongly worded but dead serious... but at least it's still in there somewhere, at the bottom. Guess that's free speech. Go, Slashdot!
This article in USA Today says yes, it's delayed along with lots of other stuff...especially the Spiderman preview trailer with the WTC...somebody better mirror this fast!!!
I absolutely agree that striking out against somebody just because they are Islamic is wrong. I hope some of the first wave of US troops going in to clean up this mess is wearing some dogtags that say Muhammed just like there were dogtags that said Pirelli and Schmitt in World War II. I really, really hope we can do better than Japanese-American interrment camps this time around, and that innocent Arab-Americans are treated as the red-blooded all-Americans they really are. I think that its way past time for Anglo-Americans like me to read books like the ones you suggest, figure out who the real enemy is, and focus on them and them alone. The fact that they are some branch of Muslim should be as irrelevent as what types of Protestant religions are practiced by the guys we paratroop in on them. The fact they are Muslim is almost not relevant. The fact that they represent evil forces of chaos is.
But not with nukes...that's what makes Pakistan "rational"...
One that doesn't want your city to get nuked by suicidal geeks in 2008. Or at any other time in the future.
I laughed out loud when I read this - and yet, it shows EXACTLY the kind of attitude we have got to overcome. After WTC, it's no longer NIMBY. Otherwise, you're gonna wake up one morning and instead of your city being mentioned at random in some stupid Slashdot post, it will be on CNN instead...
I absolutely agree that striking out against somebody just because they are Islamic is wrong. I hope some of the first wave of US troops going in to clean up this mess is wearing some dogtags that say Muhammed just like there were dogtags that said Pirelli and Schmitt in World War II. I really, really hope we can do better than Japanese-American interrment camps this time around, and that innocent Arab-Americans are treated as the red-blooded all-Americans they really are. I think that its way past time for Anglo-Americans like me to read books like the ones you suggest, figure out who the real enemy is, and focus on them and them alone. The fact that they are some branch of Muslim should be as irrelevent as what types of Protestant religions are practiced by the guys we paratroop in on them. The fact they are Muslim is almost irrelevant. The fact that they represent evil forces of chaos is.
I propose to clobber the launch site while they are building the missile. If we wait until it has launched, we have waited too long. Spending the money a defense shield would cost on some military operations run by Colin Powell instead would be a FAR better use of the money. Would I have said this Monday? No. But this is Thursday...and yes, I know Powell is SECSTATE. I just think he needs to dig his old uniform out of the closet...he understands how to keep this from becoming another Vietnam style quagmire. Go in, kick butt, come home.
That means it wasn't Pakistan behind this mess. If whoever was behind it had nukes, they would have used them. Those are the guys I want us to get, and fast. Pakistan can be Muslim and have nukes and be a perfectly legitimate member of the world community that doesn't have to always or even a majority of the time agree with the US. I have no problem with that.
Last night I saw a survivor interview that the guy ended with the statement, almost in tears, "Why can't you keep your stupid wars over there?" These events show that the war was NEVER just "over there". But if it's going to be fought with American casualties, then by God I want it fought in some desert in the middle of nowhere instead of downtown Manhattan. We have conquered dozens of nations, installed rational govenments and come home against far more organized opponents than this. We can do it again, and should. Islamic fundamentalism is just as dangerous to the world as National Socialism (Nazi) ever was. FORGET THE MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD - WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THESE GUYS COLD ***NOW*** BEFORE THEY GET NUKES. If we don't, then in ten or twenty years instaed of four jetliners it's going to be FOUR CRATERS where San Francisco, Boston, Miami and Chicago used to be, delivered by boats smuggling plutonium instead of cocaine. Yes, I know we don't have a target today and we must not go off half cocked. But when we get a target, a plan and resources ready, we must GO!
The more I think about this, the more I think the WTC/Pentagon disaster is an early warning just like Pearl Harbor. Americans in both the 1930s and the 1990s were effectively isolationist. Last night I saw a survivor interview that the guy ended with the statement, almost in tears, "Why can't you keep your stupid wars over there?" These events show that the war was NEVER just "over there". But if it's going to be fought with American casualties, then by God I want it fought in some desert in the middle of nowhere instead of downtown Manhattan. We have conquered dozens of nations, installed rational govenments and come home against far more organized opponents than this. We can do it again, and should. Islamic fundamentalism is just as dangerous to the world as National Socialism (Nazi) ever was. FORGET THE MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD - WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THESE GUYS COLD ***NOW*** BEFORE THEY GET NUKES. If we don't, then in ten or twenty years instaed of four jetliners it's going to be FOUR CRATERS where San Francisco, Boston, Miami and Chicago used to be, delivered by boats smuggling plutonium instead of cocaine. Yes, I know we don't have a target today and we must not go off half cocked. But when we get a target, a plan and resources ready, we must GO!