Looks like someone forgot to post anonymously. Given your low UID, is it possible that you are the Methusalah of trolls? Traveling from one era to the next, trusty bag of tired memes in one hand, bucket of spam in the other?
You know, I don't get many opportunities on this site to do this, but.... NERD!!
A DVD or Blu Ray player that lasts 20+ years is irrelevant since those formats are already obsolete by the time they come out. Technology has changed to the point that all of these media can be copied trivially and stored "on the network."
DVD players, unlike NES's, have moving parts. (Note: With the exception being the carriage for the NES cartridge... that'll likely be the bit that fails on you.) Eventually the rubber belts inside if your DVD player will degrade, snap, and it won't spin the disc. You won't take it to a repair shop (I'd bet you don't even know where there's one that's handy, I can tell you I don't anymore...) , you are likely to either buy a $30 replacement or go to a low-to-mid-range Blu Ray player. I highly doubt, and I do apologize if I'm wrong, that you purchased your DVD player expecting to even continue using it after say 5 years.
That's not what they're saying. That comes up because people put down Apple customers for 'supporting sweatshops' whilst being completely unaware that they're doing it, too.
In other words: Until this topic comes up with the many other companies that use Foxcon, You're demonstratably being biased against Apple and are not any better than the 'apologists' that bug you so much.
I have a CD player from the 80s that still works. Can't give you an exact year - somewhere around '84 to '86. It was sold with a tuner and turndeck. Together they cost around $350. The CD player would have been less than half of that. Yes that was a lot of money at the time but not comparable to $1000 today.
You paid the equivalent of $700 for that setup. Did you pay that for your current media or audio center? People just barely pay that for a game console with an expected life of less-than-5 years.
And I wasn't the only person that bought it.
True. They would not have become ubiquitous otherwise. However, that market really wasn't sustainable, was it? Not in light of how many more people paid for cheaper versions of it. As time goes by, the desire to upgrade these components will go up as new fancy ways to use digital processors become fashionable. Again, this is the market dictating this, not the manufacturers. If it were the latter, we'd still have all those little repair shops all over the place like we did in the 80's.
It's hard to lay the blame on manufacturers when people flock to the newest upgrade. Which.... gets back to my question: How much would you actually pay to get a 20-year DVD player? I bet the answer is none and the reason for that is you're thinking of going Blu-Ray or streaming or whatever new whiz-bang thing comes along.
The real word you're looking for is 'consumerism'.
Of course they still work, both of those devices are infinitely simpler than a DVD player. Niether are a testament to excellent engineering.
That, however, was not the question. I'll rephrase it if it helps: If a company would guarantee that a DVD (or even Blu Ray) player would last 20 years, what's the maximum you would pay?
Does every conversation on slashdot have to turn into a tirade about how stupid and frustrating and awful and shoddy and worthless and disappointing and shitty and aggravating and horrible windows is? We know already! It's also despicable and unreliable and saddening and ugly and untrustworthy and pernicious and inadequate and etc etc etc...
Take your blinkers off. It's not just Windows.
Fine. Would you pay $1,000 for a DVD player that will last 20+ years?
Heh. One of the features could be to randomly search and replace 'their' for "they're" and cause a 404 to come up when they try to reply to those posts.
It's called the difference between interlaced and progressive.
I understand interlacing just fine. I don't understand why my computers play back interlaced DVDs just fine and the Wii looks like ass on a simliar type display using the standard AV cable. Fine, I'm ignorant, big deal.
The statement "prettier graphics don't make a game better" is not a statement that against the idea that more processing power means new types of games to play.
Bullshit. Everything he's talking about is purely a hardware limitation.
Uh huh. While we're on the topic of not understanding....
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Also, strictly from a personal perspective, I know five people with Android tablets....
Wait, you know all five of them?!
Next step is to GPS the towels.
That's like saying the next step from a Bic lighter is a phaser.
This article is two weeks old, and RFID tagging in hotels has been known in the industry since 2009. Wakey wakey people!
So, what, it's the first week of January 2010 for you? What the hell time zone are you in?
Looks like someone forgot to post anonymously. Given your low UID, is it possible that you are the Methusalah of trolls? Traveling from one era to the next, trusty bag of tired memes in one hand, bucket of spam in the other?
You know, I don't get many opportunities on this site to do this, but.... NERD!!
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about...
It's an Apple story.
I found a vintage ad that places it at around $120. That's roughly $650 when adjusted for inflation.
A DVD or Blu Ray player that lasts 20+ years is irrelevant since those formats are already obsolete by the time they come out. Technology has changed to the point that all of these media can be copied trivially and stored "on the network."
Thank you, that's exactly my point.
The belts will go bad or the ribbon cable that connects the laser assembly to the board will break after moving back and forth so many times.
What did you pay for that turntable?
You just very neatly supported my point, thank you.
DVD players, unlike NES's, have moving parts. (Note: With the exception being the carriage for the NES cartridge... that'll likely be the bit that fails on you.) Eventually the rubber belts inside if your DVD player will degrade, snap, and it won't spin the disc. You won't take it to a repair shop (I'd bet you don't even know where there's one that's handy, I can tell you I don't anymore...) , you are likely to either buy a $30 replacement or go to a low-to-mid-range Blu Ray player. I highly doubt, and I do apologize if I'm wrong, that you purchased your DVD player expecting to even continue using it after say 5 years.
That's not what they're saying. That comes up because people put down Apple customers for 'supporting sweatshops' whilst being completely unaware that they're doing it, too.
In other words: Until this topic comes up with the many other companies that use Foxcon, You're demonstratably being biased against Apple and are not any better than the 'apologists' that bug you so much.
You're just trying to be difficult
No, I'm trying to put it into perspective.
I have a CD player from the 80s that still works. Can't give you an exact year - somewhere around '84 to '86. It was sold with a tuner and turndeck. Together they cost around $350. The CD player would have been less than half of that. Yes that was a lot of money at the time but not comparable to $1000 today.
You paid the equivalent of $700 for that setup. Did you pay that for your current media or audio center? People just barely pay that for a game console with an expected life of less-than-5 years.
And I wasn't the only person that bought it.
True. They would not have become ubiquitous otherwise. However, that market really wasn't sustainable, was it? Not in light of how many more people paid for cheaper versions of it. As time goes by, the desire to upgrade these components will go up as new fancy ways to use digital processors become fashionable. Again, this is the market dictating this, not the manufacturers. If it were the latter, we'd still have all those little repair shops all over the place like we did in the 80's.
It is called planned obsolescence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
It's hard to lay the blame on manufacturers when people flock to the newest upgrade. Which.... gets back to my question: How much would you actually pay to get a 20-year DVD player? I bet the answer is none and the reason for that is you're thinking of going Blu-Ray or streaming or whatever new whiz-bang thing comes along.
The real word you're looking for is 'consumerism'.
Is that really a use case that is going to cause a huge turnaround?
Of course they still work, both of those devices are infinitely simpler than a DVD player. Niether are a testament to excellent engineering.
That, however, was not the question. I'll rephrase it if it helps: If a company would guarantee that a DVD (or even Blu Ray) player would last 20 years, what's the maximum you would pay?
Does every conversation on slashdot have to turn into a tirade about how stupid and frustrating and awful and shoddy and worthless and disappointing and shitty and aggravating and horrible windows is? We know already! It's also despicable and unreliable and saddening and ugly and untrustworthy and pernicious and inadequate and etc etc etc...
Take your blinkers off. It's not just Windows.
Fine. Would you pay $1,000 for a DVD player that will last 20+ years?
WHO THE FUCK CARES!
Everybody who enjoys watching Apple fuck up.
Is this what /. has come to? A story about a different color being available for an Apple product?
It's almost a full year late and this site loves bashing Apple. What are you surprised about?
Harming your users doesn't seem to me a good idea at all. Adding more bad behavior to the Internet is unlikely to improve anyone's situation.
Can't say I agree. The more energy one has to use to be a turd, the less inclined they'll be to do it after a certain amount of time.
And crashing their browsers? That crosses an ethical line, in my opinion. What's next, infecting them with malware out of spite?
Normally I'd agree, but it shouldn't be possible to do that with any browser.
I think AC was refering to this bit:
if their using IE6
Heh. One of the features could be to randomly search and replace 'their' for "they're" and cause a 404 to come up when they try to reply to those posts.
It's called the difference between interlaced and progressive.
I understand interlacing just fine. I don't understand why my computers play back interlaced DVDs just fine and the Wii looks like ass on a simliar type display using the standard AV cable. Fine, I'm ignorant, big deal.
The statement "prettier graphics don't make a game better" is not a statement that against the idea that more processing power means new types of games to play.
Bullshit. Everything he's talking about is purely a hardware limitation.
Uh huh. While we're on the topic of not understanding....
Indeed. The only thing I sometimes miss is vibration from controllers, but I trade it gladly to use a mouse.
Have a +1 and a nice day.
Heh. Try playing more than just shooters.
The mouse cannot replace the Wii-mote.