For starters, bitching about it helps. It'd help more if they were bitched at while it was happening, but until then at least sitting here and complaining about how inconsiderate people are will make the people who read this reconsider their own behaviour.
The problem with using jammers is suppose they have a device that isn't susceptible to it? What about an iPod? Gameboy? The next generation of 'smart watches'? Those people reading the complaints right now, they know these devices are annoying just by reading this. The people who were trained that it's okay until you're stopped? Hah.
You don't want to jam communications just because some people are annoying. If you still want to hit the reply button, just stop and think about this: If store owners can jam signals, think about who else can, too.
You don't want to do it, and you already know this. Everybody here knows that you don't jam communications, it's just being temporarily forgotten because there are asshats in the world.
Boy are you hilariously wrong about that. If you think we're at rock bottom right now, don't go out on Black Friday. Of course, even if you do, you won't see anything. You'll just read about a smattering of events across the whole country.
Great. Instead of teaching society to be considerate, you'd rather teach them that if they're a jerk it's technology's fault for not stopping them. And... we can reduce public safety, to boot!
I know, Stephen Colbert is Reddit's hero and they're starting to infiltrate this site as well, but seriously. Call them lies. That's what they are, that's what they -deserve- to be called. Are people really that passive-aggressive and afraid of expressing themselves that they won't call someone who lies a liar any more?
Okay, everybody, listen up: Anonymous Coward is having a rough day so let's all be extra nice to him!
the fact that they dropped your bandwidth to an "unusable" level is perhaps an upsetting way with how the service works...
If you're upset, then vote with your wallet and get a new plan, or a new carrier.You're not going to get any sympathy when they stop performing some non-promised feature.
Look, I realize that in some weird way it's fashionable for the nerdy types to be contrarian, but the fact is they're acting against the good will of their customers. By being vocal about it, I'm not only firing back at AT&T for how shitty they're treating us, but I'm also educating you about how they interpret the spirit of the law vs. the letter of the law. You yourself said I should act on it, and that's exactly what I'm doing.
Quit posing for an Insightful score and look around, you're one of the people whose interests are being looked out for.
The bandwidth is not capped though, it's THROTTLED. So you still get "unlimited" bandwidth.
The whole reason this came up is they throttle the connection too slow to be useful for anything.
If they picked a speed that allowed web browsing and email but didn't allow for Youtube or whatever, you'd have a point. But, that's not the case, and that's why people such as myself are angry about it. My plan is called 'unlimited' but if I hit their threshold I had better keep myself near a hotspot.
I have these distractions when I read anyway. The TV is on downstairs, the cats visit and want attention, the wife needs something, the phone rings, etc. This is all with a paper book! Tablets didn't invent this problem. They do, however, have airplane mode.
What really pisses me off is they don't clarify what 'throttling' means, either. If it means "phone no get web pages", then no, it's not 'Unlimited'. If it's throttled to something like 500kbit, then I can get web pages, just not video.
I'm also hacked off that I've been paying for an 'unlimited' plan since 2008, I *know* I haven't been hitting 3 gigs a month (more like 1), I've been paying a premium for this privilege and I'm the one getting shafted.
AT&T, you have a new project: Convince me to sign another contract in the next few months.
Interesting how when it is internet service theft, nobody seems to mind the arrests but when it is intellectual property everyone bawws the fuck out about it.
What's interesting is despite how clearly the general view on piracy has been made around here for YEARS, there's always some dipshit who comes along and tries to raise some artificial hypocrisy and not only demonstrates that he doesn't understand what people have been saying, but that he doesn't understand the topic at hand either.
You would have gotten more mileage out of mentioning the Pringles can articles this site covered. (Do your homework, though, that's still an uphill battle.)
That typo was in the article, too. I'm not sure whether I should snobbily deride the editors for not correcting the mistake or fashionably praise Slashdot for finally reporting on a article accurately.
Why would we be 'dumber' as opposed to freeing up our brains for other things?
I ask because as the internet has become more and more ubiquitous I have observed more and more people using it to figure out how to do the things they want to do instead of lamenting how they'd have to take classes. I have actually watched people read Wikipedia recreationally, never saw anybody do that with an encyclopedia. I know people with successful careers who were self-taught, using the internet to gater the resources they need.
I don't see 'dumbing down', I see less memorization and more emphasis on knowing how to find what you need.
I do visual work for a living. We have a whole library of art we look at for inspiration and Mr. McQuarrie's right at the top of the list. His work not only affected my visual development as a youngin, I mean who at my age didn't see Star Wars, but for the rest of my life his paintings will be studied and, even if indirectly, they'll continue to serve to entertain the world.
I'm exhausted right now. I really wish I had the ability to speak more eloquently about this man. I'm just at a loss for words. I hear this man's name at least once a week and it seems like I'd just have a lot more to say. But I'm tired. I'm just going to leave it at this: I really wish I could have shaken his hand, both for personal and for professional reasons.
Look, you can mod my posts down if you like. Fine. Just remember, though, that when you start talking your product up, you're elevating it from "community project' to "this is ready for prime-time". That means it'll get criticized. It doesn't matter what the price is, that door has been opened.
"You get what you pay for" is a common cop-out with complaints about OSS. When you do that, you're not saying "see, OSS really can replace proprietary software", you're saying "It's inferior, you know that already, don't bitch."
Really? I seem to recall a FireFox ad placed in the New York Times. Once they start advertising, the whole 'you get what you pay for' argument is useless.
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For starters, bitching about it helps. It'd help more if they were bitched at while it was happening, but until then at least sitting here and complaining about how inconsiderate people are will make the people who read this reconsider their own behaviour.
The problem with using jammers is suppose they have a device that isn't susceptible to it? What about an iPod? Gameboy? The next generation of 'smart watches'? Those people reading the complaints right now, they know these devices are annoying just by reading this. The people who were trained that it's okay until you're stopped? Hah.
You don't want to jam communications just because some people are annoying. If you still want to hit the reply button, just stop and think about this: If store owners can jam signals, think about who else can, too.
You don't want to do it, and you already know this. Everybody here knows that you don't jam communications, it's just being temporarily forgotten because there are asshats in the world.
Boy are you hilariously wrong about that. If you think we're at rock bottom right now, don't go out on Black Friday. Of course, even if you do, you won't see anything. You'll just read about a smattering of events across the whole country.
Great. Instead of teaching society to be considerate, you'd rather teach them that if they're a jerk it's technology's fault for not stopping them. And... we can reduce public safety, to boot!
Brilliant.
That might hurt if it didn't come from a guy who is angrily whining about a pop-culture reference on Slashdot.
I know, Stephen Colbert is Reddit's hero and they're starting to infiltrate this site as well, but seriously. Call them lies. That's what they are, that's what they -deserve- to be called. Are people really that passive-aggressive and afraid of expressing themselves that they won't call someone who lies a liar any more?
Okay, everybody, listen up: Anonymous Coward is having a rough day so let's all be extra nice to him!
the fact that they dropped your bandwidth to an "unusable" level is perhaps an upsetting way with how the service works...
If you're upset, then vote with your wallet and get a new plan, or a new carrier.You're not going to get any sympathy when they stop performing some non-promised feature.
Look, I realize that in some weird way it's fashionable for the nerdy types to be contrarian, but the fact is they're acting against the good will of their customers. By being vocal about it, I'm not only firing back at AT&T for how shitty they're treating us, but I'm also educating you about how they interpret the spirit of the law vs. the letter of the law. You yourself said I should act on it, and that's exactly what I'm doing.
Quit posing for an Insightful score and look around, you're one of the people whose interests are being looked out for.
So when Slashdot dupes this story, the Post will have a dupe to link to!
The bandwidth is not capped though, it's THROTTLED. So you still get "unlimited" bandwidth.
The whole reason this came up is they throttle the connection too slow to be useful for anything.
If they picked a speed that allowed web browsing and email but didn't allow for Youtube or whatever, you'd have a point. But, that's not the case, and that's why people such as myself are angry about it. My plan is called 'unlimited' but if I hit their threshold I had better keep myself near a hotspot.
I have these distractions when I read anyway. The TV is on downstairs, the cats visit and want attention, the wife needs something, the phone rings, etc. This is all with a paper book! Tablets didn't invent this problem. They do, however, have airplane mode.
What really pisses me off is they don't clarify what 'throttling' means, either. If it means "phone no get web pages", then no, it's not 'Unlimited'. If it's throttled to something like 500kbit, then I can get web pages, just not video.
I'm also hacked off that I've been paying for an 'unlimited' plan since 2008, I *know* I haven't been hitting 3 gigs a month (more like 1), I've been paying a premium for this privilege and I'm the one getting shafted.
AT&T, you have a new project: Convince me to sign another contract in the next few months.
Thank you for quoting me accurately!
Interesting how when it is internet service theft, nobody seems to mind the arrests but when it is intellectual property everyone bawws the fuck out about it.
What's interesting is despite how clearly the general view on piracy has been made around here for YEARS, there's always some dipshit who comes along and tries to raise some artificial hypocrisy and not only demonstrates that he doesn't understand what people have been saying, but that he doesn't understand the topic at hand either.
You would have gotten more mileage out of mentioning the Pringles can articles this site covered. (Do your homework, though, that's still an uphill battle.)
That typo was in the article, too. I'm not sure whether I should snobbily deride the editors for not correcting the mistake or fashionably praise Slashdot for finally reporting on a article accurately.
Why would we be 'dumber' as opposed to freeing up our brains for other things?
I ask because as the internet has become
more and more ubiquitous I have observed more and more people using it to figure out how to do the things they want to do instead of lamenting how they'd have to take classes. I have actually watched people read Wikipedia recreationally, never saw anybody do that with an encyclopedia. I know people with successful careers who were self-taught, using the internet to gater the resources they need.
I don't see 'dumbing down', I see less memorization and more emphasis on knowing how to find what you need.
I do visual work for a living. We have a whole library of art we look at for inspiration and Mr. McQuarrie's right at the top of the list. His work not only affected my visual development as a youngin, I mean who at my age didn't see Star Wars, but for the rest of my life his paintings will be studied and, even if indirectly, they'll continue to serve to entertain the world.
I'm exhausted right now. I really wish I had the ability to speak more eloquently about this man. I'm just at a loss for words. I hear this man's name at least once a week and it seems like I'd just have a lot more to say. But I'm tired. I'm just going to leave it at this: I really wish I could have shaken his hand, both for personal and for professional reasons.
Farewell, Mr. McQuarrie. You were fantastic.
Why? Is Samsung making a new smartphone, OS, or programming langauge?
Look, you can mod my posts down if you like. Fine. Just remember, though, that when you start talking your product up, you're elevating it from "community project' to "this is ready for prime-time". That means it'll get criticized. It doesn't matter what the price is, that door has been opened.
"You get what you pay for" is a common cop-out with complaints about OSS. When you do that, you're not saying "see, OSS really can replace proprietary software", you're saying "It's inferior, you know that already, don't bitch."
Don't play that card, it only hurts OSS.
Since they advertised to get his attention, yes.
If they're paying money to convince you to use their product, then why aren't you allowed to criticize the product if you haven't contributed to it?
Right, there's a threshold. Big deal. The point is the 'you get what you pay for' argument doesn't fly with Firefox.
I really don't understand why I'd need to connect the dots for you. You said it yourself.
... by producing a product that you want to use.
It failed for him, he expressed his displeasure. If they want him back, they know how. Simple. 'Free' doesn't matter, it's still a product.
Really? Um, okay. It's real simple: They want you, so how do they go about keeping you?
Really? I seem to recall a FireFox ad placed in the New York Times. Once they start advertising, the whole 'you get what you pay for' argument is useless.
I always thought the purpose of a DDoS was to make them stop and scratch.
I think Spock would agree that you don't understand the gravity of the situation.