So tell me, if these batteries are simply too expensive, talk to us about the cost of transferring natgas to an island - is that free?
Shipping is cheaper than you think.
If another hurricane tears into P Rico again, and another Republican is president, is the NatGas going to continue after it is gone? You might look into where Solar and wind are these days.
This statement is a non-sequitur. Basically, the entire electric grid of Puerto Rico was wiped out. Do you think solar+wind+batteries would have fared better? And what does a Republican president have to do with anything?
The 65% is high levels of sunlight, a large portion of the other 35% is partially cloudy skies. Solar panels do not stop generating energy just because there is no direct sunlight
Huh, so I guess there's no significant nighttime in Puerto Rico. Interesting.
plus, if you combine solar, wind, batteries and design the grid properly you can compensate for localised gaps in generation
Yeah, so we keep on hearing. When the renewable market proves its efficiency and capability, it will happen without all the incessant claims.
Sorry, but Tesla and Musk is known for hype. We need a skeptical look at costs and capabilities before you can extract that solar/wind + batteries is now the solution going forward and fossil is obsolete. Tesla can't even deliver properly on their cars yet.
From your link: "On the renewable front, costs to overcome intermittency of renewable energy sources (basically, presuming a very high penetration of renewables on the grid) are also not included."
Yeah, that pesky peak demand and times when solar/wind just isn't there because the weather isn't cooperating.
Solar with battery can easily compete with any fossil fuel.
No, batteries are THE problem. They're very expensive.
After all the big spending and not been paid much for the extra power every year the user will be in profit when?
Yeah, exactly. The batteries are the killer. Dave Jones of EEVBlog gave a recent update on 5 years of solar panels down in Sydney, Australia. The panels are doing okay, and will pay for themselves in a few more years. Installing a battery would take decades, and that's assuming they kept their operating efficiency, which is dubious.
In Puerto Rico it's sunny about 65% of daylight hours
That's nice. But you still need to account for the other 35%, and cloudy days, etc. Batteries are expensive. Solar is expensive. Handling peak demand is expensive. Despite all the subsidies to solar, fossil fuels are still the most efficient and reliable methods for energy.
I really don't care about your analysis over Consumer Reports or Snopes.
It's not my analysis, it's the analysis of an engineer. Of course, a bit of common sense also goes a long way, as the videos demonstrating the bend and the bends found in actual usage show the same weak spot. But congratulations on your sheepish following to Apple, Consumer Reports, and Snopes. Jobs would be proud.
The first sentence of my post: "That Consumer Reports test was flawed, because they tested pressure in the middle when the phones were clearly being bent at a particular point higher up."
Turns out you can break any phone if you try hard enough. Who knew!
Jobs is dead, but the reality distortion field lives on!
Thanks. It's not like I'm not constantly thinking of ways to improve.
It's ridiculous that Unicode support is still shit after all these years. That's the kind of easy fix that would make Slashdot more usable and not piss people off.
It's a matter of resources.
At one time Slashdot used to be open source. I'm pretty sure you could get something like a Unicode fix for free.
Taco, the guy who never bothered to fix Slashdot's shitty Unicode support in all those years? Taco did not have a vision for a viable Slashdot future. He left a sinking ship.
That Consumer Reports test was flawed, because they tested pressure in the middle when the phones were clearly being bent at a particular point higher up.
It was a design flaw: "under a particular type of flexing, the phone is prone to bend mainly because a metal insert meant to reinforce instead spins in an axis too close to the critical point"
Now can we please get back to talking about SJWs and how women and immigrants shouldn't be in tech jobs before Elon does something else notable like scratch his heinie?
Nobody said women and immigrants shouldn't be in tech jobs. For women, it's the SJWs who insist that we have to bend over backwards to insure that there's an equal number of women as men in tech jobs. As for immigrants, it's not surprising that natives don't want their jobs taken away by cheap imported labor.
Would Christianity make any sense without the original sin - that the individual believing in Christianity hasn't even committed himself ? Isn't a Christian self-selected for propensity for holding their heads in perpetual shame for no fault of their own ?
Yes, it's possible that Christianity is driving a large portion of this guilt. But to counter that, I'd say much of this white guilt emanates from lefty types that had no trouble bashing Christianity for the past 20 years, so I'd say it's more of a social "justice" issue, that is, cultural Marxism.
You know what's funny about that article? Apple came out and admitted they were intentionally slowing down the devices on updates, of course for "good" reasons, completely refuting the claim by the article that Apple was not doing that. Their benchmarks didn't catch it.
Or specific tasks like Chess and Go, which are actually games that in which human intelligence is terribly suited for.
Chess I would agree with. Go was actually MUCH better suited for humans than machines, because of the large number of moves, the vague value of a move, and the large number of heuristics and human intuition required to play the game well. That's why it was the holy grail after chess fell, and why it took DECADES for machines to succeed after chess was won. And it was the neural network that LEARNED to play the game by itself that did the trick.
And now that the neural network has finally proved itself, there doesn't seem to be any limitation. You're going to have neural networks of neural networks, making sense of the world.
The thing about mount stupid is that there can be more than one on a single enlightenment curve.
True enough, but history is also replete with people that thought the future imagined by visionaries was impossible, only to see it come to fruition.
This is all moot, though. Anyone who thinks that we will have that level of AI inside of a century is riding high in the thin air atop mount stupid. Expert systems that can learn Go and brute force better game play than a human or that can search databases to make better fringe-case diagnoses than doctors are not AI. For AI to be AI you have to have BOTH the A and the I.
Don't be so cocksure. While it's absolutely true that there is no AI of general intelligence, the achievements that have been made in narrow fields are going to start putting people out of work. Neural networks have made impressive gains, and there's no reason to think it's going to take over a hundred years to reach a true AI.
I don't hate foreigners either. But I don't think we should be mass importing them, or allowing just anybody to walk into the country.
Doesn't hate immigrates
See above.
Doesn't support cops shooting black people
I bet you would if it was your life on the line. Also, your comment implies you're ok with cops shooting non-black people.
Doesn't think all Muslims are terrorists
I don't think all Muslims are terrorists, either. However, I do recognize that Islam is a uniquely violent and supremacist religion, and it would be foolish to not acknowledge this fact and act accordingly.
Doesn't hate poor people and doesn't think people should starve to death if they can't work
I don't hate poor people. I also believe in workfare. Open-ended welfare encourages people not to work. Combining that with open borders is even more foolish.
Doesn't mindlessly support dear leader's platform
It's not about "mindless support". It's about authoritarian censorship of what others may say.
Doesn't think guns are the next best thing to white Jesus
They are a constitutional right.
Doesn't think minorities should be deprived of the rights the majority enjoys
No transperson is being "deprived" of a right that the majority enjoys. It tramples other people's rights to insist that 99.9% must bend to the will of 0.1%.
Doesn't think whites are better than people of color
"It's okay to be white" is considered a racist slogan. No other race has been subjected to such self-guilt that they are expected to hold their heads in perpetual shame.
Link to an interview, then. But just because he comes off friendly in person years out of office doesn't mean he'd tell you his darkest secrets as a politician. I recall seeing a documentary on Bush/Kerry, that delved into their backgrounds, and Bush was a lot craftier than people give him credit for. The "guy I'd like to have a beer with" is a persona.
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So tell me, if these batteries are simply too expensive, talk to us about the cost of transferring natgas to an island - is that free?
Shipping is cheaper than you think.
If another hurricane tears into P Rico again, and another Republican is president, is the NatGas going to continue after it is gone? You might look into where Solar and wind are these days.
This statement is a non-sequitur. Basically, the entire electric grid of Puerto Rico was wiped out. Do you think solar+wind+batteries would have fared better? And what does a Republican president have to do with anything?
The 65% is high levels of sunlight, a large portion of the other 35% is partially cloudy skies. Solar panels do not stop generating energy just because there is no direct sunlight
Huh, so I guess there's no significant nighttime in Puerto Rico. Interesting.
plus, if you combine solar, wind, batteries and design the grid properly you can compensate for localised gaps in generation
Yeah, so we keep on hearing. When the renewable market proves its efficiency and capability, it will happen without all the incessant claims.
Sorry, but Tesla and Musk is known for hype. We need a skeptical look at costs and capabilities before you can extract that solar/wind + batteries is now the solution going forward and fossil is obsolete. Tesla can't even deliver properly on their cars yet.
Solar is cheaper than NG, coal, nuclear.
From your link: "On the renewable front, costs to overcome intermittency of renewable energy sources (basically, presuming a very high penetration of renewables on the grid) are also not included."
Yeah, that pesky peak demand and times when solar/wind just isn't there because the weather isn't cooperating.
Solar with battery can easily compete with any fossil fuel.
No, batteries are THE problem. They're very expensive.
After all the big spending and not been paid much for the extra power every year the user will be in profit when?
Yeah, exactly. The batteries are the killer. Dave Jones of EEVBlog gave a recent update on 5 years of solar panels down in Sydney, Australia. The panels are doing okay, and will pay for themselves in a few more years. Installing a battery would take decades, and that's assuming they kept their operating efficiency, which is dubious.
In Puerto Rico it's sunny about 65% of daylight hours
That's nice. But you still need to account for the other 35%, and cloudy days, etc. Batteries are expensive. Solar is expensive. Handling peak demand is expensive. Despite all the subsidies to solar, fossil fuels are still the most efficient and reliable methods for energy.
I really don't care about your analysis over Consumer Reports or Snopes.
It's not my analysis, it's the analysis of an engineer. Of course, a bit of common sense also goes a long way, as the videos demonstrating the bend and the bends found in actual usage show the same weak spot. But congratulations on your sheepish following to Apple, Consumer Reports, and Snopes. Jobs would be proud.
Overall, what Consumer Reports found
The first sentence of my post: "That Consumer Reports test was flawed, because they tested pressure in the middle when the phones were clearly being bent at a particular point higher up."
Turns out you can break any phone if you try hard enough. Who knew!
Jobs is dead, but the reality distortion field lives on!
Thanks. It's not like I'm not constantly thinking of ways to improve.
It's ridiculous that Unicode support is still shit after all these years. That's the kind of easy fix that would make Slashdot more usable and not piss people off.
It's a matter of resources.
At one time Slashdot used to be open source. I'm pretty sure you could get something like a Unicode fix for free.
Maybe we could get CmdrTaco to do it?
Taco, the guy who never bothered to fix Slashdot's shitty Unicode support in all those years? Taco did not have a vision for a viable Slashdot future. He left a sinking ship.
It's a non-issue.
That Consumer Reports test was flawed, because they tested pressure in the middle when the phones were clearly being bent at a particular point higher up.
It was a design flaw: "under a particular type of flexing, the phone is prone to bend mainly because a metal insert meant to reinforce instead spins in an axis too close to the critical point"
But that must be Fake News, since Snopes still cites the Consumer Reports test, right? https://www.snopes.com/news/20...
What upsets me is that I honestly don't think it would have happened when Steve Jobs was at the helm.
You mean Steve "You're holding it wrong" Jobs?
Now can we please get back to talking about SJWs and how women and immigrants shouldn't be in tech jobs before Elon does something else notable like scratch his heinie?
Nobody said women and immigrants shouldn't be in tech jobs. For women, it's the SJWs who insist that we have to bend over backwards to insure that there's an equal number of women as men in tech jobs. As for immigrants, it's not surprising that natives don't want their jobs taken away by cheap imported labor.
Happy now?
Would Christianity make any sense without the original sin - that the individual believing in Christianity hasn't even committed himself ? Isn't a Christian self-selected for propensity for holding their heads in perpetual shame for no fault of their own ?
Yes, it's possible that Christianity is driving a large portion of this guilt. But to counter that, I'd say much of this white guilt emanates from lefty types that had no trouble bashing Christianity for the past 20 years, so I'd say it's more of a social "justice" issue, that is, cultural Marxism.
https://benchmarks.ul.com/news... [ul.com]
You know what's funny about that article? Apple came out and admitted they were intentionally slowing down the devices on updates, of course for "good" reasons, completely refuting the claim by the article that Apple was not doing that. Their benchmarks didn't catch it.
Step out of the reality distortion field.
Or specific tasks like Chess and Go, which are actually games that in which human intelligence is terribly suited for.
Chess I would agree with. Go was actually MUCH better suited for humans than machines, because of the large number of moves, the vague value of a move, and the large number of heuristics and human intuition required to play the game well. That's why it was the holy grail after chess fell, and why it took DECADES for machines to succeed after chess was won. And it was the neural network that LEARNED to play the game by itself that did the trick.
And now that the neural network has finally proved itself, there doesn't seem to be any limitation. You're going to have neural networks of neural networks, making sense of the world.
The thing about mount stupid is that there can be more than one on a single enlightenment curve.
True enough, but history is also replete with people that thought the future imagined by visionaries was impossible, only to see it come to fruition.
This is all moot, though. Anyone who thinks that we will have that level of AI inside of a century is riding high in the thin air atop mount stupid. Expert systems that can learn Go and brute force better game play than a human or that can search databases to make better fringe-case diagnoses than doctors are not AI. For AI to be AI you have to have BOTH the A and the I.
Don't be so cocksure. While it's absolutely true that there is no AI of general intelligence, the achievements that have been made in narrow fields are going to start putting people out of work. Neural networks have made impressive gains, and there's no reason to think it's going to take over a hundred years to reach a true AI.
Unfortunately, the "hyperbolic stereotypes" are all too real. And it's far more intellectual than your vapid name-calling.
Doesn't hate foreigners
I don't hate foreigners either. But I don't think we should be mass importing them, or allowing just anybody to walk into the country.
Doesn't hate immigrates
See above.
Doesn't support cops shooting black people
I bet you would if it was your life on the line. Also, your comment implies you're ok with cops shooting non-black people.
Doesn't think all Muslims are terrorists
I don't think all Muslims are terrorists, either. However, I do recognize that Islam is a uniquely violent and supremacist religion, and it would be foolish to not acknowledge this fact and act accordingly.
Doesn't hate poor people and doesn't think people should starve to death if they can't work
I don't hate poor people. I also believe in workfare. Open-ended welfare encourages people not to work. Combining that with open borders is even more foolish.
Doesn't mindlessly support dear leader's platform
It's not about "mindless support". It's about authoritarian censorship of what others may say.
Doesn't think guns are the next best thing to white Jesus
They are a constitutional right.
Doesn't think minorities should be deprived of the rights the majority enjoys
No transperson is being "deprived" of a right that the majority enjoys. It tramples other people's rights to insist that 99.9% must bend to the will of 0.1%.
Doesn't think whites are better than people of color
"It's okay to be white" is considered a racist slogan. No other race has been subjected to such self-guilt that they are expected to hold their heads in perpetual shame.
Link to an interview, then. But just because he comes off friendly in person years out of office doesn't mean he'd tell you his darkest secrets as a politician. I recall seeing a documentary on Bush/Kerry, that delved into their backgrounds, and Bush was a lot craftier than people give him credit for. The "guy I'd like to have a beer with" is a persona.
You forgot support for North Korea and MS13!
Crazy, isn't it? Trump derangement syndrome bites deep.
You engaged with me. You just didn't have the intellectual capacity to do so beyond name-calling.
You're a fool. Bush is a politician. He lies for a living.
If you actually don't think this, then you either haven't been paying attention or you're just a useful idiot.
Put yourself down for being too mindless to make an actual argument.