The honest answer is that from from a technical standpoint, Be is a competitor for Microsoft. While you can state that they cater specifically to the media crowd, that seems a bit like saying that Apple in 1984 catered to the GUI crowd. Be is simply ahead of the times - they occupy a space Microsoft will certainly move their consumer OS (not in terms of media authoring, but in terms of the ability to use more media in apps like games, which is a market that Microsoft covets).
The cynical answer is that Be is nothing more than a catalyst to get the OS market to mature. With nonexistant market share, and press and brainshare moving towards linux, its nearly impossible for them to get much attention these days.
Level 1 is so low and useless it wouldn't be worth the time to take the test.
Really, are you going to drive to some test center somehwere and take an hour out of your life to show someone you can select the right timezone in the RedHat install?
Apple has always had enough money (see the balance sheets on yahoo finance or elsewhere) in the bank to keep going for years. I'm sorry, but that argument is still weak.
I already have my system. The last thing I want to do now is waste even more of my time getting VA operations up to speed. Needless to say, if you can't turn around a linux system in five business days, you're simply not going to be in business long.
I went through hell and high water to get a system out of them. I generally regret going through over a month of phone calls and wasted time simply to get a system.
They had better hope high-volume vendors don't take a keen hankering to linux - they simply won't last with their current level of general ineptness.
I will say this for Apple - there is a sense of UI integration and consistency that unix will never have. Not just linux, but any unix. There are an amazing number of interface motifs that are pervasive and supported well across apps. Unix UIs are still more or less chrome. The most advanced functionality of WindowMaker is about a decade behind the Mac interface. And WindowMaker is the exception - the rule is crap like Enlightenment, which simply adds more obnoxious chrome without much functionality at all.
While there are disadvantages to the tight integration of hardware and software, Apple's plug and play is still the best - linux users shouldn't even dream of anything like this - it will never happen.
Most controls in the station will be embedded systems. Its not like WinNT is going to be controlling the flow of oxygen.
If someone needs to use a word processor, Word is as good (or crappy) as any. No, AbiWord, Klyx or any of the other lame-o linux toys probably weren't on the list. People in orbit can't be bothered to obsess over the openness of the QT libraries, GNOME support, or any of the other minutae that linux nerds give themselves migraines over.
Red Hat is out ahead because they are being shrewd business people - making good deals and making them before the competition. This is a _good_ quality. Let the market sort it out.
Obviously most of you agree, as a recent/. poll indicated that RedHat was the most popular distro - you're voting with your wallets.
Cash flow is an issue for any business. If you need it, get a loan, or get a revenue model. The ".org" in the url is a misnomer and you know it. I think canvasing "users" for "donations" to run your business is a fairly inept way to run this site.
Bite the bullet - hire a business person who knows how to generate some revenue. That's why Amazon and Yahoo are where they are today.
Cisco became the giant it is through the same "pooling of resources" acquisition method.
As for the author of the book that is so _often_ quoted here - I accuse him and his fans of cowardice.
Yes, there is volatility in the market folks. If you can't handle the risk, invest in bonds. If you have some brains, a little capital, and a pair of balls, you can make yourself moderately wealthy.
It would behoove everyone to understand the simplest meaning of the Turing Test: if you can't tell the difference, there is no difference of course humans won't have any respect for the artificial life they create until they anthropomorphize it somehow, byt sticking the computers inside human-looking shells, or giving them human names.
Unfortunately, I have to conclude that Be represents the weakest long-term bet of all the alternative OS's available now.
The key ingredient missing in BeOS is apps. Yes, I know there are some, but MacOSX is going to ship supporting a helluva lot more apps that you can get at Fry's right now. For most users, this makes a big difference. Added to which, OSX appears to offer more to the serious user. By virtue of its unix roots, it supports multiuser right out of the box...something that the Be engineers were frankly silly to skip - This is the networked world - you can't presume that users are isolated on their desktops anymore.
Regardless of whether the BeOS supports better media manipulation out of the box is irrelevant - there are few apps to exploit these goals. Media means Photoshop. If you don't have Photoshop, media users will look elsewhere.
As for SMP, and all those other neato features, you can try them out and goof off with them on a number of alternative OSs. For straight up power and stability you're hard pressed to beat FreeBSD (especially at its price).
BeOS might have had a chance if Apple had not done anything to get OSX out the door, but it appears it will hit the streets this year. That should be good enough for waiting users.
As for Intel users...they can try out linux for free or simply stick with NT if they need apps galore.
No one is doubting that serial number on chips might reduce theft - the transmission of that number on the other hand, is a clear provacy risk.
This and the various incarnations of the CDA, it appears we are entering a age of surveillance. What isn't clear is who is watching, why they are watching, or how the watchers are governed and held accountable.
In the past I would have written off privacy advocates and users of PGP as slightly paranoid. I no longer do. The tragedy is that most common users have no idea that this is taking place, and cannot take the appropriate measures to counter the increasing surveillance of their private lives.
They're simply trying to save their tenuous, overpaid, underwroked positions.
This is a classic Canadian response to change. Look at the insightful way the CBC, CRTC and Canada Post have responded to change over the years. They'll do anything to protect their pathetic socialized fiefdoms.
While I am not commenting directly on the movie, I would like to reply to those who don't believe that this is the correct "forum" for this type of news. Firstly, sengan prefaced the article sufficiently enough that any uninterested aprties could skip it. Secondly....get a life people! Culture, political issues, and commentary are the spice of life. If you only want straight-up tech news, go to Yahoo! News Tech section. As long as the _quality_ of the content is high, I applaud any new type of content in here.
And yes, human rights are a nerd issue. Espcecially if you are a human nerd.
People seem to have the misconception that by applications, one means only Office rip-offs. As you correctly point out, there are hundreds of vertical markets where nothing exists or is likely to exist outside of NT.
I think the reality is, Unix in general is ill-suited as a desktop replacement for Windows. I love BSD, and use it at home and at work, but I can't see giving it to non-techies. If it was ever made easy enough for them, it would have to be crippled so much I would no longer find it useful.
Linux will replace NT in server room functionality - I think NT Server is clearly on the extinction list. NT Workstation will leave a long fruitful life - Win32 is how 95% of users in the world run their day to day apps. Readers:please, don't respond "Use WINE!!" because I will burst out into laughter. No one who has used it would recommend it as an NT Workstation replacement.
It looks like the neat toy everyone gets for Christmas but is soon collecting dust. There's just too much to break on this thing to make it useful in a real office. Plus the round-footprint design limits how many can be placed on the floor compared to rectangular cubes.
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The honest answer is that from from a technical standpoint, Be is a competitor for Microsoft. While you can state that they cater specifically to the media crowd, that seems a bit like saying that Apple in 1984 catered to the GUI crowd. Be is simply ahead of the times - they occupy a space Microsoft will certainly move their consumer OS (not in terms of media authoring, but in terms of the ability to use more media in apps like games, which is a market that Microsoft covets).
The cynical answer is that Be is nothing more than a catalyst to get the OS market to mature. With nonexistant market share, and press and brainshare moving towards linux, its nearly impossible for them to get much attention these days.
that come with Linux professionally configured
all that means is that they put their own silly background on your fvwm session.
Level 1 is so low and useless it wouldn't be worth the time to take the test.
Really, are you going to drive to some test center somehwere and take an hour out of your life to show someone you can select the right timezone in the RedHat install?
Apple has always had enough money (see the balance sheets on yahoo finance or elsewhere) in the bank to keep going for years. I'm sorry, but that argument is still weak.
I already have my system. The last thing I want to do now is waste even more of my time getting VA operations up to speed. Needless to say, if you can't turn around a linux system in five business days, you're simply not going to be in business long.
Well, of course if the earth gets hit by an asteroid, you're screwed. The "if Apple goes out of business" argument is ridiculous.
I went through hell and high water to get a system out of them. I generally regret going through over a month of phone calls and wasted time simply to get a system.
They had better hope high-volume vendors don't take a keen hankering to linux - they simply won't last with their current level of general ineptness.
I will say this for Apple - there is a sense of UI integration and consistency that unix will never have. Not just linux, but any unix. There are an amazing number of interface motifs that are pervasive and supported well across apps. Unix UIs are still more or less chrome. The most advanced functionality of WindowMaker is about a decade behind the Mac interface. And WindowMaker is the exception - the rule is crap like Enlightenment, which simply adds more obnoxious chrome without much functionality at all.
While there are disadvantages to the tight integration of hardware and software, Apple's plug and play is still the best - linux users shouldn't even dream of anything like this - it will never happen.
nuff said.
Yeah, that's right, no one at nasa knows what they are doing. They should have called you.
Most controls in the station will be embedded systems. Its not like WinNT is going to be controlling the flow of oxygen.
If someone needs to use a word processor, Word is as good (or crappy) as any. No, AbiWord, Klyx or any of the other lame-o linux toys probably weren't on the list. People in orbit can't be bothered to obsess over the openness of the QT libraries, GNOME support, or any of the other minutae that linux nerds give themselves migraines over.
Red Hat is out ahead because they are being shrewd business people - making good deals and making them before the competition. This is a _good_ quality. Let the market sort it out.
/. poll indicated that RedHat was the most popular distro - you're voting with your wallets.
Obviously most of you agree, as a recent
Have you bought a stock in the last twenty years? Dividends? This isn't GM we're talking about.
If you prefer poverty, stay on your present course.
Cash flow is an issue for any business. If you need it, get a loan, or get a revenue model. The ".org" in the url is a misnomer and you know it. I think canvasing "users" for "donations" to run your business is a fairly inept way to run this site.
Bite the bullet - hire a business person who knows how to generate some revenue. That's why Amazon and Yahoo are where they are today.
Cisco became the giant it is through the same "pooling of resources" acquisition method.
As for the author of the book that is so _often_ quoted here - I accuse him and his fans of cowardice.
Yes, there is volatility in the market folks. If you can't handle the risk, invest in bonds. If you have some brains, a little capital, and a pair of balls, you can make yourself moderately wealthy.
It would behoove everyone to understand the simplest meaning of the Turing Test:
if you can't tell the difference, there is no difference
of course humans won't have any respect for the artificial life they create until they anthropomorphize it somehow, byt sticking the computers inside human-looking shells, or giving them human names.
Yes Virginia, there are alternatives.
Unfortunately, I have to conclude that Be represents the weakest long-term bet of all the alternative OS's available now.
The key ingredient missing in BeOS is apps. Yes, I know there are some, but MacOSX is going to ship supporting a helluva lot more apps that you can get at Fry's right now. For most users, this makes a big difference. Added to which, OSX appears to offer more to the serious user. By virtue of its unix roots, it supports multiuser right out of the box...something that the Be engineers were frankly silly to skip - This is the networked world - you can't presume that users are isolated on their desktops anymore.
Regardless of whether the BeOS supports better media manipulation out of the box is irrelevant - there are few apps to exploit these goals. Media means Photoshop. If you don't have Photoshop, media users will look elsewhere.
As for SMP, and all those other neato features, you can try them out and goof off with them on a number of alternative OSs. For straight up power and stability you're hard pressed to beat FreeBSD (especially at its price).
BeOS might have had a chance if Apple had not done anything to get OSX out the door, but it appears it will hit the streets this year. That should be good enough for waiting users.
As for Intel users...they can try out linux for free or simply stick with NT if they need apps galore.
No one is doubting that serial number on chips might reduce theft - the transmission of that number on the other hand, is a clear provacy risk.
This and the various incarnations of the CDA, it appears we are entering a age of surveillance. What isn't clear is who is watching, why they are watching, or how the watchers are governed and held accountable.
In the past I would have written off privacy advocates and users of PGP as slightly paranoid. I no longer do. The tragedy is that most common users have no idea that this is taking place, and cannot take the appropriate measures to counter the increasing surveillance of their private lives.
They're simply trying to save their tenuous, overpaid, underwroked positions.
This is a classic Canadian response to change. Look at the insightful way the CBC, CRTC and Canada Post have responded to change over the years. They'll do anything to protect their pathetic socialized fiefdoms.
While I am not commenting directly on the movie, I would like to reply to those who don't believe that this is the correct "forum" for this type of news. Firstly, sengan prefaced the article sufficiently enough that any uninterested aprties could skip it. Secondly....get a life people! Culture, political issues, and commentary are the spice of life. If you only want straight-up tech news, go to Yahoo! News Tech section. As long as the _quality_ of the content is high, I applaud any new type of content in here.
And yes, human rights are a nerd issue. Espcecially if you are a human nerd.
Does this overlap with Kaffe work?
I'm finding over time its prudent to let others raid Freshmeat for me and discover security flaws or even bugs before I bother downloading.
People seem to have the misconception that by applications, one means only Office rip-offs. As you correctly point out, there are hundreds of vertical markets where nothing exists or is likely to exist outside of NT.
I think the reality is, Unix in general is ill-suited as a desktop replacement for Windows. I love BSD, and use it at home and at work, but I can't see giving it to non-techies. If it was ever made easy enough for them, it would have to be crippled so much I would no longer find it useful.
Linux will replace NT in server room functionality - I think NT Server is clearly on the extinction list. NT Workstation will leave a long fruitful life - Win32 is how 95% of users in the world run their day to day apps. Readers:please, don't respond "Use WINE!!" because I will burst out into laughter. No one who has used it would recommend it as an NT Workstation replacement.
It looks like the neat toy everyone gets for Christmas but is soon collecting dust. There's just too much to break on this thing to make it useful in a real office. Plus the round-footprint design limits how many can be placed on the floor compared to rectangular cubes.