However, posting on slashdot is not the way to "get the word out." When investors and people start researching LinuxOne, there not going to look at slashdot. They're going to check out linux.org, linux.com, and linux/investment oriented magazines.
Is there any way to get an editorial such as this published in a reputed magazine (perhaps Linux Journal?) or at the very least have links to such an editorial displayed somewhat prominently on the front page of Linux.org or Linux.com?
Slashdot is a great soapbox to stand on, but it's like preaching to the choir--we already know what a scam LinuxOne is. We need to start spreading this beyond slashdot and into the places where clueless investors would think to look.
It may support that number nine card that I've never heard of, but I didn't see any 3dfx, nvidia, or matrox cards on the supported list. It seems strange that XIG would claim a "gamers" edition without *any* of the most popular 3d gaming cards out there being supported.
I usually read at a threshold of 3 because I can learn far more from reading "Linux Core Kernel and Commentary" than i can from reading slashdot at a lower threshold. I used to read at a threshold of -1 until I realised how much time I wasted, learning nothing.
So if you call reading for 5 minute at a threshold of 3, and spending 55 minutes reading "Learning Perl" of "Linux Core Kernel and Commentary" instead of spending an hour at -1 wading through FR1ST P0ST and grits and natalie portman, oh well. I'm happier being spoon fed.
But there's a serious flaw in the current moderation method in that an AC post, no matter how insightful or informative, will most likely not reach the eyes of the people who would gain from reading it because it was posted by an AC. I keep a little slashbox on my front page that has the ten most highly rated posts in a list. It's a rare day (and I mean RARE day) when an AC is among them. I understand the thought behind allowing ACs on slashdot, but I don't want to see slashdot's credibility suffer from allowing them. Jeremy
11. BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION.
12. IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR REDISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
So no, no one can be held responsible for anything their GPL'ed program does. I don't know how the BSD license works, but I would assume some sort of similar constraint.
There is absolutely no historical support for such a statement. I'm sure all the people who read this and assume that "it's posted on slashdot, it must be correct" are thankful for your complete misinformation.
I can find myriad historians who would date Jesus' birth to approximately 5-6 BC. I challenge you to find any substantial contingent of historians with proper credentials (ie. not "Harry's House of History" degrees) to state that Jesus was born prior even to 10 BC.
Oh, and supposing you can find such information, how do you explain the fooling of billions of people into thinking that he was born ~115 years before they think he was?
Yeah, except for the part about doing work. NT may crash, but it does actually have useful programs (photoshop, MSOffice, etc.) as opposed to beos which has...hmm...Gobe Productive?
The ``that'' you inserted into his phrases is entirely optional, and under most circumstances is considered useless fluff. You won't any good writers putting it in their writing, that's for sure.
I have to mention the one thing I tell all new users who come to me wanting to install linux: INSTALL EVERYTHING. That little checkbox at the very bottom when Redhat asks you what types of stuff you'd like installed; you know, the one that says "install everything". Yeah, that one. Check it. And don't worry about lib files ever again.
It makes installing software as easy as a mouse click (or an rpm -Uvh, whichever you prefer). You may have a little extra stuff on your hard drive, but in the days of prevalent 20gb hard drives, there's not much difference between a.6gb install and a 1.3gb install. And that's certainly a small price to pay for the ease of installation of various programs.
And when you've used linux for awhile, and you finally do know what all those lib files do, then you can always reinstall. The best of both worlds.
Why the hell can't you use a descriptive subject line? I'm going to stop reading these "..." posts to the loss of your good comments because of it. Take the time to write a decent subject line.
Just a simple observation, but I would look forward to the breakup.
By separating the divisions of the company based on what they produce (for instance, breaking it up into MSOS, MSinternet, MS Office, and MSDeveloper, and MSGames) we could begin to see MS supports platforms that compete with Windows. If MSGames and MSInternet no longer have a loyalty to MSOS, what's keeping them from releasing IE or Age of Empires for platforms such as Linux or the BeOS?
I can't see how this would do harm to the economy or to people in general.
Jeremy
(of course, as an OT side point, how many people who use linux would use IE if it was released for linux?)
When I first read of this, I thought to myself "What exactly is the use in patenting the results of this research?" From the posts I've seen, it seems that companies intend to patent the information they discover about the human genome, which can then be used to create cures for diseases. However, if standard medical law prevails, there's no way they can deny a person access to the information necessary to save that person's life or to prevent his/her disease if that person cannot afford to pay for the information. Basically, just like an emergency room can't turn away people who can't pay, how could a company that patented a human genome withold that information from people who can't afford to pay?
The original reviewer was not just some guy posting on a forum about his experience at comdex. He's one of the operators of website. He's a knowledgeable computer professional and is now in grad school at Harvard. His website's integrity is at stake when he recounts his experience at Comdex, so if he says the Aladin TNT wasn't there, I believe the Aladin TNT wasn't there.
It'd be interesting if slashdot logged IP addresses...this post sounds quite like the ones made by a certain executive at ArtX...
One point to be made is that "the original poster" wasn't just a "poster". He is one of the owners and operators of ArsTechnica (an incredible website). He's not just some joe blow off the internet, spouting off about how some video he saw at comdex sucked; he's a very knowledgeable computer professional currently in grad school at Harvard Divinity School.
So it's not just a case of a crazy marketing nut posting anonymously on some website. It's the king nut of marketing at a company, posting and calling the owner/operator of a significantly trafficked website a liar. To his face. In front of everyone who reads Ars.
IIRC, MMX allows the processor to perform the same instruction on a set of integer data. For instace, you could pass 4 ints to a function and have the processor perform the same instruction on those 4 ints without having to reload the instruction.
It's the same thing as 3dnow! and SSE and Altivec, except for integers.
What's the difference between this and distributed.net? I just installed the rc5des client today and noticed that it also did CSC--so what's the deal? how do these differ?
I'm pretty sure this qualifies as copyright violation. Considering that registration is free, I can't see any reason this should be supported by slashdot.
Legally, can slashdot copy someone else's news word for word? These companies make money from banners, and slashdot is bypassing that. You guys need to watch yourselves.
I run a dual celeron 550 with a v3 3000. Let me clarify about my statement that "I don't have to worry about the OS crashing": I don't necessarily mean that q3test was doing it. I crashed hard once in q3test because I enabled r_smp 1 and couldn't get out of the game. Other than that, NT would crash every single time I tried to run Nero, the cd burning software that came with my cdrw. Various other programs just as Musicmatch Jukebox would cause a BSOD everytime I double clicked on it. I have friends who will let their dvds and cdrws sit useless in their computer or put it in another computer rather than install the drivers and "screw their NT install". Anyway, I digress. The point is that I know i can play q3 in linux and not worry about crashing before, during, or after. I can't say the same of NT.
Ok, pardon me for not mentioning that NT did crash on me about once a day. Not necessarily q3 related, but of course, I never said that i worried about the OS crashing due to q3. Oh, that, and i couldn't burn cds because my cd writing software caused a crash everytime.
It depends. If you want to play q3 NOW, buy a v3 3000 or so (it's too bad linux folk can't overclock their video cards like windows folk can...you could get a cheaper 2000 and overclock it. And my 3000 could go the 183mhz God meant it to go:-)).
I don't know exactly how the recent open sourcing (or whatever you want to call it) of, IIRC, the essential glide API worked, but other cards, such as the G400 and perhaps even the tnt2 ultra, might work now also. I really don't know.
If you want to wait for drivers, then any of the three cards I listed before would be good--although none have been out long enough to really suggest one over the others. My one caveat is to beware of possible latency problems with the ATI Rage MAXX (it renders two frames at once on two different processors, which means it uses old geometry on the new frames. Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm not the only person worried about this).
I run a dual celeron 550 and a v3 3000 and get good gameplay.
Ok, to start off, the cheap video card is going to kill you in 3d games. You HAVE to have a good video card to play games well. v2 is barely tolerable, v3 works fine--that's what i use.
Also, while 3d games are very floating point intensive, the K6-2 is terrible at floating, due to a lack of a pipelined fpu. So you're also going to be processor limited in the game.
If you're not up for a processor + video card upgrade anytime soon, then if any of the new hardware T&L video cards (such as the GeForce 256, the ATI Rage MAXX, or the Savage 2000) get good linux support, just buy one of those. That should improve your fps far more than a simple v3 or so would since you will be processor limited.
Slashdot Mirror
Did anyone else notice that the story in which those comments were made (and other slashdot demeaning posts) mysteriously disappeared?
I'm hearing a conspiracy theory...
Jeremy
I agree with you completely.
However, posting on slashdot is not the way to "get the word out." When investors and people start researching LinuxOne, there not going to look at slashdot. They're going to check out linux.org, linux.com, and linux/investment oriented magazines.
Is there any way to get an editorial such as this published in a reputed magazine (perhaps Linux Journal?) or at the very least have links to such an editorial displayed somewhat prominently on the front page of Linux.org or Linux.com?
Slashdot is a great soapbox to stand on, but it's like preaching to the choir--we already know what a scam LinuxOne is. We need to start spreading this beyond slashdot and into the places where clueless investors would think to look.
Jeremy
It may support that number nine card that I've never heard of, but I didn't see any 3dfx, nvidia, or matrox cards on the supported list. It seems strange that XIG would claim a "gamers" edition without *any* of the most popular 3d gaming cards out there being supported.
Jeremy
I usually read at a threshold of 3 because I can learn far more from reading "Linux Core Kernel and Commentary" than i can from reading slashdot at a lower threshold. I used to read at a threshold of -1 until I realised how much time I wasted, learning nothing.
So if you call reading for 5 minute at a threshold of 3, and spending 55 minutes reading "Learning Perl" of "Linux Core Kernel and Commentary" instead of spending an hour at -1 wading through FR1ST P0ST and grits and natalie portman, oh well. I'm happier being spoon fed.
Jeremy
But there's a serious flaw in the current moderation method in that an AC post, no matter how insightful or informative, will most likely not reach the eyes of the people who would gain from reading it because it was posted by an AC. I keep a little slashbox on my front page that has the ten most highly rated posts in a list. It's a rare day (and I mean RARE day) when an AC is among them. I understand the thought behind allowing ACs on slashdot, but I don't want to see slashdot's credibility suffer from allowing them. Jeremy
NO WARRANTY
11. BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS NO WARRANTY
FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN
OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES
PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED
OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS
TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE
PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING,
REPAIR OR CORRECTION.
12. IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING
WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR
REDISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES,
INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING
OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED
TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY
YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER
PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
So no, no one can be held responsible for anything their GPL'ed program does. I don't know how the BSD license works, but I would assume some sort of similar constraint.
Jeremy
There is absolutely no historical support for such a statement. I'm sure all the people who read this and assume that "it's posted on slashdot, it must be correct" are thankful for your complete misinformation.
I can find myriad historians who would date Jesus' birth to approximately 5-6 BC. I challenge you to find any substantial contingent of historians with proper credentials (ie. not "Harry's House of History" degrees) to state that Jesus was born prior even to 10 BC.
Oh, and supposing you can find such information, how do you explain the fooling of billions of people into thinking that he was born ~115 years before they think he was?
Jeremy
Yeah, except for the part about doing work. NT may crash, but it does actually have useful programs (photoshop, MSOffice, etc.) as opposed to beos which has...hmm...Gobe Productive?
Jeremy
The ``that'' you inserted into his phrases is entirely optional, and under most circumstances is considered useless fluff. You won't any good writers putting it in their writing, that's for sure.
Jeremy
I have to mention the one thing I tell all new users who come to me wanting to install linux: INSTALL EVERYTHING. That little checkbox at the very bottom when Redhat asks you what types of stuff you'd like installed; you know, the one that says "install everything". Yeah, that one. Check it. And don't worry about lib files ever again.
.6gb install and a 1.3gb install. And that's certainly a small price to pay for the ease of installation of various programs.
It makes installing software as easy as a mouse click (or an rpm -Uvh, whichever you prefer). You may have a little extra stuff on your hard drive, but in the days of prevalent 20gb hard drives, there's not much difference between a
And when you've used linux for awhile, and you finally do know what all those lib files do, then you can always reinstall. The best of both worlds.
Jeremy
Why the hell can't you use a descriptive subject line? I'm going to stop reading these "..." posts to the loss of your good comments because of it. Take the time to write a decent subject line.
Shhh....don't tell anyone, but the NT bootloader already loads other OSes...
Just a simple observation, but I would look forward to the breakup.
By separating the divisions of the company based on what they produce (for instance, breaking it up into MSOS, MSinternet, MS Office, and MSDeveloper, and MSGames) we could begin to see MS supports platforms that compete with Windows. If MSGames and MSInternet no longer have a loyalty to MSOS, what's keeping them from releasing IE or Age of Empires for platforms such as Linux or the BeOS?
I can't see how this would do harm to the economy or to people in general.
Jeremy
(of course, as an OT side point, how many people who use linux would use IE if it was released for linux?)
When I first read of this, I thought to myself "What exactly is the use in patenting the results of this research?" From the posts I've seen, it seems that companies intend to patent the information they discover about the human genome, which can then be used to create cures for diseases. However, if standard medical law prevails, there's no way they can deny a person access to the information necessary to save that person's life or to prevent his/her disease if that person cannot afford to pay for the information. Basically, just like an emergency room can't turn away people who can't pay, how could a company that patented a human genome withold that information from people who can't afford to pay?
Jeremy
It'd be interesting if slashdot logged IP addresses...this post sounds quite like the ones made by a certain executive at ArtX...
Jeremy
One point to be made is that "the original poster" wasn't just a "poster". He is one of the owners and operators of ArsTechnica (an incredible website). He's not just some joe blow off the internet, spouting off about how some video he saw at comdex sucked; he's a very knowledgeable computer professional currently in grad school at Harvard Divinity School.
So it's not just a case of a crazy marketing nut posting anonymously on some website. It's the king nut of marketing at a company, posting and calling the owner/operator of a significantly trafficked website a liar. To his face. In front of everyone who reads Ars.
This is far beyond simple FUD.
Jeremy
IIRC, MMX allows the processor to perform the same instruction on a set of integer data. For instace, you could pass 4 ints to a function and have the processor perform the same instruction on those 4 ints without having to reload the instruction.
It's the same thing as 3dnow! and SSE and Altivec, except for integers.
Jeremy
What's the difference between this and distributed.net? I just installed the rc5des client today and noticed that it also did CSC--so what's the deal? how do these differ?
Jeremy
I'm pretty sure this qualifies as copyright violation. Considering that registration is free, I can't see any reason this should be supported by slashdot.
Legally, can slashdot copy someone else's news word for word? These companies make money from banners, and slashdot is bypassing that. You guys need to watch yourselves.
Jeremy
Just a note: Kryotech bundles nothing with it's systems. It's all barebones. You get the case, cooling equipment, mobo, and cpu. That's all Jeremy
I run a dual celeron 550 with a v3 3000. Let me clarify about my statement that "I don't have to worry about the OS crashing": I don't necessarily mean that q3test was doing it. I crashed hard once in q3test because I enabled r_smp 1 and couldn't get out of the game. Other than that, NT would crash every single time I tried to run Nero, the cd burning software that came with my cdrw. Various other programs just as Musicmatch Jukebox would cause a BSOD everytime I double clicked on it. I have friends who will let their dvds and cdrws sit useless in their computer or put it in another computer rather than install the drivers and "screw their NT install". Anyway, I digress. The point is that I know i can play q3 in linux and not worry about crashing before, during, or after. I can't say the same of NT.
Jeremy
Ok, pardon me for not mentioning that NT did crash on me about once a day. Not necessarily q3 related, but of course, I never said that i worried about the OS crashing due to q3. Oh, that, and i couldn't burn cds because my cd writing software caused a crash everytime.
Jeremy
It depends. If you want to play q3 NOW, buy a v3 3000 or so (it's too bad linux folk can't overclock their video cards like windows folk can...you could get a cheaper 2000 and overclock it. And my 3000 could go the 183mhz God meant it to go :-)).
I don't know exactly how the recent open sourcing (or whatever you want to call it) of, IIRC, the essential glide API worked, but other cards, such as the G400 and perhaps even the tnt2 ultra, might work now also. I really don't know.
If you want to wait for drivers, then any of the three cards I listed before would be good--although none have been out long enough to really suggest one over the others. My one caveat is to beware of possible latency problems with the ATI Rage MAXX (it renders two frames at once on two different processors, which means it uses old geometry on the new frames. Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm not the only person worried about this).
I run a dual celeron 550 and a v3 3000 and get good gameplay.
Jeremy
r_smp 1 with a v3 crashes q3 on NT. It doesn't on linux. Also, AIM crashes q3 on NT. Gaim doesn't on linux.
Jeremy
Ok, to start off, the cheap video card is going to kill you in 3d games. You HAVE to have a good video card to play games well. v2 is barely tolerable, v3 works fine--that's what i use.
Also, while 3d games are very floating point intensive, the K6-2 is terrible at floating, due to a lack of a pipelined fpu. So you're also going to be processor limited in the game.
If you're not up for a processor + video card upgrade anytime soon, then if any of the new hardware T&L video cards (such as the GeForce 256, the ATI Rage MAXX, or the Savage 2000) get good linux support, just buy one of those. That should improve your fps far more than a simple v3 or so would since you will be processor limited.
Jeremy