I'm guessing that few of you have had money stolen from accounts before. It is a huge pain, involves lots of paperwork, and is generally not a pleasant experience. I had a good deal of money(for me at the time) transferred out of my account in the United States and sent to Turkey. Nothing stolen online, we figure it was a dumpster diver. Money is still gone, and it still took weeks to clear. I, for one, am happy that the bank re-reimbursed the account holders for their losses. For everyone here that says "learn security!!!!", what if it wasn't the account holder who placed the trojan there? Would you then blame the person for having "stupid" people using their computer, i.e. significant others, who bank at the same place? You can't educate everyone.
They are problably being charged with "attempted poaching" as they haven't actually poached anything, just tried. It's assumed that a hunter wouldn't waste a bullet on a fake deer, or if he did, I imagine there are conservation agents(as they're called around here) watching you for your behavior. A reaction of "wooo! I got him!" is different from "I'm gunna shoot me one of them fake deers!" Yes, I live in a redneck area.
Being bipolar, when my medication doesn't work I can go for days without sleep. This is not good. The brain starts doing strange things after day 3 or so. I can only imagine what would happen WHEN, not IF, people start abusing something like this. Sleep is incredibly important to anyone with an illness of any kind, be it physical or mental. Without it, the condition worsens.
Imagine what would happen if this became commonplace. There's a reason that they don't give anti-depressants to make everyone happy. In a small % of the population it can/will cause a psychotic episode. Severe sleep deprivation can do the same thing, set off things in the brain that a person only had a tendency for before. Your great grand-mother was a paranoid schizophrenic? Great, now that you decided to cram for a test for 3 days, you set it off. The chances are low, granted, but do you really want to play with something like that? Get your 8 hours and be happy that you can.
Easy. I don't trust my neighbors not to download kiddie porn on my network. Maybe it's because there are registered sex offenders near me, maybe it's because I'm paranoid, but I like avoiding the FBI thank you.
To all of you that say he wasn't doing anything malicious: how do you know? And are you using your definition of malicious or the owner of the WAP? If my connection was open(it's not) and someone wanted to check their email, I wouldn't mind. Someone else might. However, probably everyone would mind if someone slammed their connection with torrent traffic 24/7. It might be all "legal" traffic, but it would still be damnned annoying, and malicious in my book.
The only real solution I see to this is to secure ALL wireless networks out of the box. It would keep windows from auto-attaching, and would make anyone logging into one liable if someone complained. The argument "well I didn't know I wasn't supposed to be there" goes right out the window. Then, if you decide to unlock your network, everyone knows that you meant to, and not that you're some fool that said "I want a wireless network! yay!" without knowing what that really means.
I see a point to this device, but not as a blanket solution. Yes, you own your own car, you pay your own insurance, you can blow down the highway at 140mph all you want. Because when the PD decide to pull a felony arrest assuming you're running drugs, it's your ass. However, when it's mommy and daddys car, mommy and daddy's insurance, and kiddo over there can't seem to stop getting speeding tickets, I see this as a useful tool as a last ditch alternative to pulling a car(which in some cases is bad for both parents and kids, as the parents don't really want the kids around all the time, but can't afford all the damned tickets). It gives the kids a long term chance to redeem, and the parents some data to go off of. I like it, and I'm only 23.
I believe that everyone and their mother should upgrade to n the second it comes out. This will set in stone my lack of need to ever pay for internet(as I am now), as there are 5 completely open networks within range of my apartment living room with just G, I can only imagine what improved distance/stability would do for me.
Coming from someone who has looked at the written priorities for their D1 school.
1. Research
2. Students
3. Obtaining grants(it seems like 1 and 3 are the same thing...apparently not)
4. Spin off companies
We are not on the top of the list. Academia is not about the students.
I've seen a lot of of comments about the dangers of going into space, and I wonder when crossed the line from being safety conscious to being just paranoid. This is an inherently dangerous job, performed by people who are more than aware of the risks involved. There comes a point where you just have to depend that everyone has done their job, and pray for the best. This decision isn't made by the engineers on the ground, or the public, but by those in the shuttle agreeing to go up. 5 things fell off the shuttle? So what. What about things falling off the shuttle BEFORE a piece destroyed one? My bets say that it happened, and nothing happened. There's a line, and we've crossed it.
OK, I'll be more specific for the coward. Minors born to citizens of the US are not given the RIGHTS of citizenship until 18. I'm going to avoid application for citizenship, people born in country to illegal aliens, etc, and stick to those who were in country legally/born here.
The first amendment doesn't say you have protection unless you're a minor. Either it's a basic human right (hence its position at the top of the bill of rights, which are supposed to apply to all humans equally) or it isn't. Pick one.
Actually, yes it does. Minors by default are not citizens, and therefore are not protected by the bill of rights, or any of the constitution. While there can be endless debate as to if this is right or not, it's how it is.
And, if anyone ever talked to him at school, saw the icon at school, or in any way interacted with the icon at school, it suddenly becomes a school matter. If something hadn't happened at school it would have made much more sense to argue that the school has no jurisdiction outside of its own walls than a 1st amendment defense.
And I'm not sure where you're from, but where I'm at you can stop going to school at 16, not 18.
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I'm guessing that few of you have had money stolen from accounts before. It is a huge pain, involves lots of paperwork, and is generally not a pleasant experience. I had a good deal of money(for me at the time) transferred out of my account in the United States and sent to Turkey. Nothing stolen online, we figure it was a dumpster diver. Money is still gone, and it still took weeks to clear. I, for one, am happy that the bank re-reimbursed the account holders for their losses. For everyone here that says "learn security!!!!", what if it wasn't the account holder who placed the trojan there? Would you then blame the person for having "stupid" people using their computer, i.e. significant others, who bank at the same place? You can't educate everyone.
They are problably being charged with "attempted poaching" as they haven't actually poached anything, just tried. It's assumed that a hunter wouldn't waste a bullet on a fake deer, or if he did, I imagine there are conservation agents(as they're called around here) watching you for your behavior. A reaction of "wooo! I got him!" is different from "I'm gunna shoot me one of them fake deers!" Yes, I live in a redneck area.
Being bipolar, when my medication doesn't work I can go for days without sleep. This is not good. The brain starts doing strange things after day 3 or so. I can only imagine what would happen WHEN, not IF, people start abusing something like this. Sleep is incredibly important to anyone with an illness of any kind, be it physical or mental. Without it, the condition worsens.
Imagine what would happen if this became commonplace. There's a reason that they don't give anti-depressants to make everyone happy. In a small % of the population it can/will cause a psychotic episode. Severe sleep deprivation can do the same thing, set off things in the brain that a person only had a tendency for before. Your great grand-mother was a paranoid schizophrenic? Great, now that you decided to cram for a test for 3 days, you set it off. The chances are low, granted, but do you really want to play with something like that? Get your 8 hours and be happy that you can.
Easy. I don't trust my neighbors not to download kiddie porn on my network. Maybe it's because there are registered sex offenders near me, maybe it's because I'm paranoid, but I like avoiding the FBI thank you.
To all of you that say he wasn't doing anything malicious: how do you know? And are you using your definition of malicious or the owner of the WAP? If my connection was open(it's not) and someone wanted to check their email, I wouldn't mind. Someone else might. However, probably everyone would mind if someone slammed their connection with torrent traffic 24/7. It might be all "legal" traffic, but it would still be damnned annoying, and malicious in my book.
The only real solution I see to this is to secure ALL wireless networks out of the box. It would keep windows from auto-attaching, and would make anyone logging into one liable if someone complained. The argument "well I didn't know I wasn't supposed to be there" goes right out the window. Then, if you decide to unlock your network, everyone knows that you meant to, and not that you're some fool that said "I want a wireless network! yay!" without knowing what that really means.
I see a point to this device, but not as a blanket solution. Yes, you own your own car, you pay your own insurance, you can blow down the highway at 140mph all you want. Because when the PD decide to pull a felony arrest assuming you're running drugs, it's your ass. However, when it's mommy and daddys car, mommy and daddy's insurance, and kiddo over there can't seem to stop getting speeding tickets, I see this as a useful tool as a last ditch alternative to pulling a car(which in some cases is bad for both parents and kids, as the parents don't really want the kids around all the time, but can't afford all the damned tickets). It gives the kids a long term chance to redeem, and the parents some data to go off of. I like it, and I'm only 23.
I believe that everyone and their mother should upgrade to n the second it comes out. This will set in stone my lack of need to ever pay for internet(as I am now), as there are 5 completely open networks within range of my apartment living room with just G, I can only imagine what improved distance/stability would do for me.
God I wish I was joking.
Coming from someone who has looked at the written priorities for their D1 school. 1. Research 2. Students 3. Obtaining grants(it seems like 1 and 3 are the same thing...apparently not) 4. Spin off companies We are not on the top of the list. Academia is not about the students.
I've seen a lot of of comments about the dangers of going into space, and I wonder when crossed the line from being safety conscious to being just paranoid. This is an inherently dangerous job, performed by people who are more than aware of the risks involved. There comes a point where you just have to depend that everyone has done their job, and pray for the best. This decision isn't made by the engineers on the ground, or the public, but by those in the shuttle agreeing to go up. 5 things fell off the shuttle? So what. What about things falling off the shuttle BEFORE a piece destroyed one? My bets say that it happened, and nothing happened. There's a line, and we've crossed it.
OK, I'll be more specific for the coward. Minors born to citizens of the US are not given the RIGHTS of citizenship until 18. I'm going to avoid application for citizenship, people born in country to illegal aliens, etc, and stick to those who were in country legally/born here.
The first amendment doesn't say you have protection unless you're a minor. Either it's a basic human right (hence its position at the top of the bill of rights, which are supposed to apply to all humans equally) or it isn't. Pick one.
Actually, yes it does. Minors by default are not citizens, and therefore are not protected by the bill of rights, or any of the constitution. While there can be endless debate as to if this is right or not, it's how it is.
And, if anyone ever talked to him at school, saw the icon at school, or in any way interacted with the icon at school, it suddenly becomes a school matter. If something hadn't happened at school it would have made much more sense to argue that the school has no jurisdiction outside of its own walls than a 1st amendment defense.
And I'm not sure where you're from, but where I'm at you can stop going to school at 16, not 18.
It's not a real build unless you bleed on it.