I convinced my kids to forget university ( I have MBA) and concentrate on having a trade. I thought about electrician, plumber, masonry, and work in constructigon. The salaries are not super duper high, unless you go into business and succeed, but you can work at your pace until age 70, if that is your wish. Most construction people have made their money and at 60 years old, have retired. The ones I know have purchased rental properties and enjoy a good standard of retirement living.
One of my kids has an MBA, the other a bachelor degree in finance, and the third, teaches autistic children. The MBA kid is a Mensa level bright guy, but does not want the corporate life.
Around here, you an expect to work at 7 careers between the date of graduation and the date you retire. Do not become or remain a single skil individual.
I wrote autocoder and 1401 code. I programmed patch panels. I wrote fortran and cobol, and couid analyse application dumps when data caused the burp. Sometimes bad data just came from bad tapes. (we used tapes more than disks in those days)
There is no age bias,only a cost bias. In Canada, a new graduate for Object oriented programming gets around $40k, if he / she is lucky.
As the developer gains seniority, experience and knowledge of applications, and more education, that amount will climb to $80k.
Only a consultant on short term contracts gets more. In fact, for the company, the consultant is not more expensive when you subtract out the benefits, group insurance, government unemployment fees, training fees, etc. etc. etc.
And Canadian companies are not running to the USA for what we consider "overpriced talent".
Bottom line. The USA has priced itself out of the market. Companies go offshore, if they can.
I am a small businessman and my team of two and myself would each love to make $150k per year. Best we can do is around $100k, on long term (2 year) contracts. And we code in Windows, Linux, Mainframe, in C, C++, Python, Perl, Cobol, Pascal and any other language that customers demand.
Patriots see that they are too few in number to win. It is much easier to change countries and citizenships than it is to remain. As I see it, the USA is where Germany was in the beginning of the 1930's.
Eventually you will have a one party system (republican with big corporate dollars to keep them there). One party leads to dictatorship.
Your view is the same view of people living in other countries. In an earlier post I mentioned that small business is favored by our government, because it generates local employment.
Microsoft is loading themselves up with every conceivable patent before W8 is released. My guess there will be patents from every aspect, beginning with the bios I also am thinking of the many copyrights for the look and feel of W8.
Well, be ready to pay if you need W8. At least you will get something better than Windows 3.0 or some other infamous Microsoft catastrophes.
Linux GUI interface designers better develop hundreds of different arrangements, in order to show prior deployment. Otherwise, the Linux desktop or tablet interface will be slaughtered by the number of patents that are already being filed that will act as a deterrent.
Time for patents to apply to machinery, not to algorithms or generic methods.
As a consumer I love patents. It forces me to pay double the price to three times the price of the worth of the product. Imagine. Lawsuits, frivolous lawsuits because of mis-use of a product. I the manufacturer must warn the consumer to not keyboard for 16 hours per day. I have to be paying for a patent on the use of a for-loop or another programming construct.
The Country is down the tubes, and you can see it with almost 9.1% unemployment. The lawyers and big corps own the government and hold the middle class and lower classes hostage.
Sorry, I am a business man and my rambling about what I perceive is wrong. In Canada the small business man is cherished, because he creates local jobs. In the USA, it is only the Big guys that are cherished. A real problem of prestige for the USA as noone outside of the USA wants to hold USA$
I agree with your conclusion, that labor standards in offshore countries must rise to some minimal international standard.
If it does not rise, then where is the incentive to bring back manufacturing jobs home. With manufacturing jobs come engineering jobs, and abilities of families to return to living a better life, particulary when full employment comes.
As long as jobs are exported, there will not be full employment, and the economy will continue to be in the doldrums.
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Scientific Linux looks and performs great on my system. LTS is stated to be to 2017, longer than my hardware will exist. (Unless I pack my hardware up for a science museum).
Matches what Mandriva is offering. Think of distributions this way, I drive a Ford, you drive a GMC vehicle, and someone else a Chrysler. Cars are cars, distributions are distributions. It is all a question of personal tastes.
I have tried with the usual html code to add an empty line or some bold text, but on posting, all the white space is gone. How to add a tab, paragraph, bold, etc would be appreciated. I tried to Google the info and did not find it.
You forgot to mention that the average age of a Miami driver is eighty. It is retirement village for North America.
Round-abouts are great. I lived in France for a while, and the round-abouts were a blessing. One slowed down to enter, and if we missed the exit, we just went around one more time. (As a tourist, I occasionally missed the exit, because I was not sure what each street's exit was, until I passed it)
Perhaps a training course is needed for drivers to learn courtesy and to not always want to be first in line.
Poor judgement by school boards and just look at the consequences. A parent will now have to stay home from work as one cannot leave a child at home unattended. So, the state will pay a bigger price.
I am sure they never thought past the budget to consider the kids. Why not close air conditioning an hour or two early, and start it an hour or two later.
I am feeling very sad and sorry for the students and their difficult future.
At what rate would we have to procreate to arrive at todays earth population? I also would be very concerned about Noah and the ark. Two of every kind would have to include every pair of people from every human race.
I also question the flood. Why no dinasaurs on the ark, but why all the germs, such as polio, german measles, etc. etc.
A nice feature of an office suite is that there is an infinite electronic scratchpad. That functionality directed at using a spreadsheet to experiment with what-if calculations is a reason that the desk calculator is rarely used.
So, LibreOffice it is, and hope to have it on a tablet soon.
Your premise is that with the one worker, that there will be thousands layed off. I suppose that these layed off workers will have sufficient income to purchase the products that they once helped to build.
So, if we are that efficient, then perhaps we will, except for some few industries, drop to a 3 day workweek and with only 3 days pay for the week.
I for one believe that we will not change the ratio of technology unemployed to workng stiffs. That ratio that exists today, will stay more or less the same. The mythical three day work week will be sometime very far into the future.
I left Fedora 15 for Scientific Linux. SLis quite up to date, includes rpms for non-free libraries, etc.
And it is Gnome 2.x with desktop
I even run SL with XFCE, because it is easier to do things than with using Gnome.
Compiz, etc, runs on SL, I only use compiz for wobbly windows and only that functionality.
Just for the record. Many many years ago, (about 30) or so, there was a design that used a crt as a memory device. It was random access, and it was possible to position the cursor to read from a spot on the screen.
With inflated prices, Apple is #1. But Apple does not have renewable resources and neither does Exon. So, the real winners will be the energy producers who have water dams, wind farms to generate electricity or for electricity, have other renewable resources.
As we get older we get lazy to learn new tools, unless forced to. I switched to FFox and while I have from time to time used Google's Chrome, I did not make it my default. The reason -- the browsers are faster than my dsl network. Ergo, my network activity is io -bound. As FF does the job, I will exercise my laziness. I also like certain utilities present in Ffox, and that is a second reason why I don't consider switching.
What about my IQ. Well, my two son's are Mensa level IQs, but me, I am just on the high side of average. Yes, they too use Firefox.
What is wrong with raising taxes on large businesses. Will they go off-shore? Will they stop selling to the US public?
My view is that they are already off-shore, and do hardly any domestic manufacturing. Ergo, there is a need for a more equitable apportionment of taxes. If this realignment is not done, in five to ten years the USA will have no middle class to speak of. There will be many retirees who will not be able to afford to remain middle class (life will be too expensive), and will sell homes to move to lower cost residences. They will also not be buying the adult electronic toys that drive the USA economy.
These are just my raving thoughts. I am in the disappearing middle class and my lifestyle is slip-sliding away.
It might be that Google sues SUN for violating one or more of their hardware patents. That is a tit-for-tat approach to Oracle who is sueing Google for Java extensions.
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I convinced my kids to forget university ( I have MBA) and concentrate on having a trade. I thought about electrician, plumber, masonry, and work in constructigon. The salaries are not super duper high, unless you go into business and succeed, but you can work at your pace until age 70, if that is your wish. Most construction people have made their money and at 60 years old, have retired. The ones I know have purchased rental properties and enjoy a good standard of retirement living.
One of my kids has an MBA, the other a bachelor degree in finance, and the third, teaches autistic children. The MBA kid is a Mensa level bright guy, but does not want the corporate life.
They are doing OK to better than OK
Around here, you an expect to work at 7 careers between the date of graduation and the date you retire. Do not become or remain a single skil individual.
I wrote autocoder and 1401 code. I programmed patch panels. I wrote fortran and cobol, and couid analyse application dumps when data caused the burp. Sometimes bad data just came from bad tapes. (we used tapes more than disks in those days)
There is no age bias,only a cost bias. In Canada, a new graduate for Object oriented programming gets around $40k, if he / she is lucky.
As the developer gains seniority, experience and knowledge of applications, and more education, that amount will climb to $80k.
Only a consultant on short term contracts gets more. In fact, for the company, the consultant is not more expensive when you subtract out the benefits, group insurance, government unemployment fees, training fees, etc. etc. etc.
And Canadian companies are not running to the USA for what we consider "overpriced talent".
Bottom line. The USA has priced itself out of the market. Companies go offshore, if they can.
I am a small businessman and my team of two and myself would each love to make $150k per year. Best we can do is around $100k, on long term (2 year) contracts. And we code in Windows, Linux, Mainframe, in C, C++, Python, Perl, Cobol, Pascal and any other language that customers demand.
Patriots see that they are too few in number to win. It is much easier to change countries and citizenships than it is to remain. As I see it, the USA is where Germany was in the beginning of the 1930's.
Eventually you will have a one party system (republican with big corporate dollars to keep them there). One party leads to dictatorship.
This topic is what I read from the HS reports. And the poor operators who are there for hours on end. They too will eventually have cancer and perish.
Your view is the same view of people living in other countries. In an earlier post I mentioned that small business is favored by our government, because it generates local employment.
Bravo to you
Microsoft is loading themselves up with every conceivable patent before W8 is released. My guess there will be patents from every aspect, beginning with the bios
I also am thinking of the many copyrights for the look and feel of W8.
Well, be ready to pay if you need W8. At least you will get something better than Windows 3.0 or some other infamous Microsoft catastrophes.
Linux GUI interface designers better develop hundreds of different arrangements, in order to show prior deployment. Otherwise, the Linux desktop or tablet interface will be slaughtered by the number of patents that are already being filed that will act as a deterrent.
Time for patents to apply to machinery, not to algorithms or generic methods.
As a consumer I love patents. It forces me to pay double the price to three times the price of the worth of the product. Imagine. Lawsuits, frivolous lawsuits because of mis-use of a product. I the manufacturer must warn the consumer to not keyboard for 16 hours per day. I have to be paying for a patent on the use of a for-loop or another programming construct.
The Country is down the tubes, and you can see it with almost 9.1% unemployment. The lawyers and big corps own the government and hold the middle class and lower classes hostage.
Sorry, I am a business man and my rambling about what I perceive is wrong. In Canada the small business man is cherished, because he creates local jobs. In the USA, it is only the Big guys that are cherished. A real problem of prestige for the USA as noone outside of the USA wants to hold USA$
I agree with your conclusion, that labor standards in offshore countries must rise to some minimal international standard.
If it does not rise, then where is the incentive to bring back manufacturing jobs home. With manufacturing jobs come engineering jobs, and abilities of families to return to living a better life, particulary when full employment comes.
As long as jobs are exported, there will not be full employment, and the economy will continue to be in the doldrums.
Scientific Linux looks and performs great on my system. LTS is stated to be to 2017, longer than my hardware will exist. (Unless I pack my hardware up for a science museum).
Matches what Mandriva is offering. Think of distributions this way, I drive a Ford, you drive a GMC vehicle, and someone else a Chrysler. Cars are cars, distributions are distributions. It is all a question of personal tastes.
I have tried with the usual html code to add an empty line or some bold text, but on posting, all the white space is gone. How to add a tab, paragraph, bold, etc would be appreciated. I tried to Google the info and did not find it.
You forgot to mention that the average age of a Miami driver is eighty. It is retirement village for North America. Round-abouts are great. I lived in France for a while, and the round-abouts were a blessing. One slowed down to enter, and if we missed the exit, we just went around one more time. (As a tourist, I occasionally missed the exit, because I was not sure what each street's exit was, until I passed it) Perhaps a training course is needed for drivers to learn courtesy and to not always want to be first in line.
Trivial irrelevant studies. Living causes death as an outcome.
Poor judgement by school boards and just look at the consequences. A parent will now have to stay home from work as one cannot leave a child at home unattended. So, the state will pay a bigger price. I am sure they never thought past the budget to consider the kids. Why not close air conditioning an hour or two early, and start it an hour or two later. I am feeling very sad and sorry for the students and their difficult future.
At what rate would we have to procreate to arrive at todays earth population? I also would be very concerned about Noah and the ark. Two of every kind would have to include every pair of people from every human race. I also question the flood. Why no dinasaurs on the ark, but why all the germs, such as polio, german measles, etc. etc.
A nice feature of an office suite is that there is an infinite electronic scratchpad. That functionality directed at using a spreadsheet to experiment with what-if calculations is a reason that the desk calculator is rarely used. So, LibreOffice it is, and hope to have it on a tablet soon.
Your premise is that with the one worker, that there will be thousands layed off. I suppose that these layed off workers will have sufficient income to purchase the products that they once helped to build. So, if we are that efficient, then perhaps we will, except for some few industries, drop to a 3 day workweek and with only 3 days pay for the week. I for one believe that we will not change the ratio of technology unemployed to workng stiffs. That ratio that exists today, will stay more or less the same. The mythical three day work week will be sometime very far into the future.
I left Fedora 15 for Scientific Linux. SLis quite up to date, includes rpms for non-free libraries, etc. And it is Gnome 2.x with desktop I even run SL with XFCE, because it is easier to do things than with using Gnome. Compiz, etc, runs on SL, I only use compiz for wobbly windows and only that functionality.
Just for the record. Many many years ago, (about 30) or so, there was a design that used a crt as a memory device. It was random access, and it was possible to position the cursor to read from a spot on the screen.
With inflated prices, Apple is #1. But Apple does not have renewable resources and neither does Exon. So, the real winners will be the energy producers who have water dams, wind farms to generate electricity or for electricity, have other renewable resources.
Say thanks to GWB and RC.
As we get older we get lazy to learn new tools, unless forced to. I switched to FFox and while I have from time to time used Google's Chrome, I did not make it my default. The reason -- the browsers are faster than my dsl network. Ergo, my network activity is io -bound. As FF does the job, I will exercise my laziness. I also like certain utilities present in Ffox, and that is a second reason why I don't consider switching. What about my IQ. Well, my two son's are Mensa level IQs, but me, I am just on the high side of average. Yes, they too use Firefox.
What is wrong with raising taxes on large businesses. Will they go off-shore? Will they stop selling to the US public? My view is that they are already off-shore, and do hardly any domestic manufacturing. Ergo, there is a need for a more equitable apportionment of taxes. If this realignment is not done, in five to ten years the USA will have no middle class to speak of. There will be many retirees who will not be able to afford to remain middle class (life will be too expensive), and will sell homes to move to lower cost residences. They will also not be buying the adult electronic toys that drive the USA economy. These are just my raving thoughts. I am in the disappearing middle class and my lifestyle is slip-sliding away.
It might be that Google sues SUN for violating one or more of their hardware patents. That is a tit-for-tat approach to Oracle who is sueing Google for Java extensions.