The Jews were not even the largest group affected, that poor fate befalls the gypsies.
That's just complete horseshit. The most widely accepted estimate for Roma holocaust deaths is less than 220,000. Some historians have argued that the actual number is up to 1.5 million, but even if you credulously accept that estimate it is still nowhere near the number of Jews killed.
The largest single group would actually be "soviet civilians", though the number is close enough to the number of Jews killed that it's not really worth differentiating. The big difference, of course, is that Nazi Germany did not have a stated policy of exterminating soviet civilians; their deaths were mostly (though far from solely) a result of being used as slave labour for the German war machine. That doesn't make their deaths any less tragic, but it does put them in a different category than those like Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and the disabled, who were specifically targeted for extermination.
Except not. Because if Stalin had actually killed 40 millions, then, together with the losses in WW2, the USSR population would have been halved.
That's assuming he rounded up 40 million people and killed them all at once, which is a really stupid assumption. Stalin was in power for 33 years; had he killed 1.2 million per year it would not have come close to halving the population as long as the birth rate was fairly high (which it was).
Anyway, no it wasn't 40 million; the accepted figure is somewhere between 15 and 20 million. Which is obviously so much better.
At least you aren't as ridiculous as some people who insist that Stalin has killed 100 millions of soviet citizens because adding the WW2 losses that would be about all of them.
You're the one being ridiculous; that 100 million is a figure attributed to communism as a whole, not Stalin specifically, and not the USSR alone.
The problem is that our government is trying to use a secret court that is one-sided and that is what Manning is protesting. Please read up on Grand Jurys to find out that there is no defense lawyer, the standard rules for evidence are thrown out, the prosecuting attorney is able to lie and bully in ways that would never go down in a public trial, and so much more that will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
That's idiotic. The reason there's no defense lawyer is because there's no sentence and no punishment. The grand jury is not a "secret court" because it is not a court at all; it is an investigative body set up to determine whether a case should even proceed to court. You may as well call a police investigation a "secret court".
If some random jackoff insisted on being called sir, I'd tell him to get fucked too. Calling someone "sir" is not a societal norm; it's generally a sign of respect, or at least of deference. Calling a man "she" is likewise not a societal norm; it is a misguided attempt to be magnanimous. Rather like reassuring a young child that yes, there really is a Santa Claus.
Gender self-identification, unlike say racial or political identity, has a genuine, well-documented biological basis
Does it? What's the biological basis? Other than "brain misfiring"? Because if that's the biological basis you're talking about, then believing that you're Napoleon Bonaparte also has a well documented biological basis...
He didn't expose any such thing, as you well know. Idiots love to pretend that he exposed war crimes, but nobody has given a single example of anything in the released documents which would qualify. I'm sure some dickhead will link to the helicopter video as an example, but that incident has already been discussed to death and I have no desire to rehash it yet again.
If Manning had exposed "extermination camps", this would be a very different discussion. He didn't; he gave away sensitive information which very well could have gotten plenty of good men and women killed, for no reason other than because he had a chip on his shoulder.
What kind of point are you trying to make exactly? That because being a traitor to Nazis would have been a good thing, it must be a good thing to be a traitor to every other nation? Do you not realize how retarded that is?
And of course if anyone doesn't see the ghosts in your house, it's because they're not really trying to see them. Makes perfect sense. When you REALLY try to see shit, you'll see it!
The success of East-Asian women in computer science and software engineering proves that gender barriers do not exist.
It depends; how does it compare to the success of East-Asian men in the same fields? If the number of east Asian women in the field is statistically indistinguishable from the number of east Asian men, then yeah, you would have a point. However I strongly suspect that this is not the case.
Sorry, I'm confused... are you ignoring the fact that the current case is one of a Chinese company suing the US government, while your example cases are ones of foreign companies suing Chinese companies? Or are you just implicitly acknowledging that Chinese companies are in fact an extension of their government, and, as such, assuming that suing a Chinese company is equivalent to suing their government?
In addition, of the two juggernaut nations, one has had a proven MO of fomenting chaos (read regime change) in distant lands, the other country has mostly followed bilateral cooperation even though some experts have seen this as a form of imperialism.
Ah, another millennial who thinks history started in the last few decades.
Your first link talks about photo radar and is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
Your second and third link talk about making amber lights longer than 4 seconds on high-speed roads, and do not even remotely suggest that the light duration has been lowered after bringing in cameras.
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Those facts, you mean.
The fact is that you're an idiot who seems to think that IBM was part of the US government.
The Jews were not even the largest group affected, that poor fate befalls the gypsies.
That's just complete horseshit. The most widely accepted estimate for Roma holocaust deaths is less than 220,000. Some historians have argued that the actual number is up to 1.5 million, but even if you credulously accept that estimate it is still nowhere near the number of Jews killed.
The largest single group would actually be "soviet civilians", though the number is close enough to the number of Jews killed that it's not really worth differentiating. The big difference, of course, is that Nazi Germany did not have a stated policy of exterminating soviet civilians; their deaths were mostly (though far from solely) a result of being used as slave labour for the German war machine. That doesn't make their deaths any less tragic, but it does put them in a different category than those like Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and the disabled, who were specifically targeted for extermination.
Except not. Because if Stalin had actually killed 40 millions, then, together with the losses in WW2, the USSR population would have been halved.
That's assuming he rounded up 40 million people and killed them all at once, which is a really stupid assumption. Stalin was in power for 33 years; had he killed 1.2 million per year it would not have come close to halving the population as long as the birth rate was fairly high (which it was).
Anyway, no it wasn't 40 million; the accepted figure is somewhere between 15 and 20 million. Which is obviously so much better.
At least you aren't as ridiculous as some people who insist that Stalin has killed 100 millions of soviet citizens because adding the WW2 losses that would be about all of them.
You're the one being ridiculous; that 100 million is a figure attributed to communism as a whole, not Stalin specifically, and not the USSR alone.
He isn't being asked to give up a source; he IS the source.
The problem is that our government is trying to use a secret court that is one-sided and that is what Manning is protesting. Please read up on Grand Jurys to find out that there is no defense lawyer, the standard rules for evidence are thrown out, the prosecuting attorney is able to lie and bully in ways that would never go down in a public trial, and so much more that will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
That's idiotic. The reason there's no defense lawyer is because there's no sentence and no punishment. The grand jury is not a "secret court" because it is not a court at all; it is an investigative body set up to determine whether a case should even proceed to court. You may as well call a police investigation a "secret court".
war crimes revealed by Manning?
[Citation needed]
If some random jackoff insisted on being called sir, I'd tell him to get fucked too. Calling someone "sir" is not a societal norm; it's generally a sign of respect, or at least of deference. Calling a man "she" is likewise not a societal norm; it is a misguided attempt to be magnanimous. Rather like reassuring a young child that yes, there really is a Santa Claus.
Gender self-identification, unlike say racial or political identity, has a genuine, well-documented biological basis
Does it? What's the biological basis? Other than "brain misfiring"? Because if that's the biological basis you're talking about, then believing that you're Napoleon Bonaparte also has a well documented biological basis ...
What's there to hold them accountable for, exactly?
Thanks, always nice to hear from the loonies.
He didn't expose any such thing, as you well know. Idiots love to pretend that he exposed war crimes, but nobody has given a single example of anything in the released documents which would qualify. I'm sure some dickhead will link to the helicopter video as an example, but that incident has already been discussed to death and I have no desire to rehash it yet again.
No, he was loyal to himself, and he never gave a fuck about either his country or anyone else.
Seriously who cares?
Only those of us who care about what's real.
If Manning had exposed "extermination camps", this would be a very different discussion. He didn't; he gave away sensitive information which very well could have gotten plenty of good men and women killed, for no reason other than because he had a chip on his shoulder.
What kind of point are you trying to make exactly? That because being a traitor to Nazis would have been a good thing, it must be a good thing to be a traitor to every other nation? Do you not realize how retarded that is?
Heh. What delicious irony; a chinaman talking about "biased american media".
And of course if anyone doesn't see the ghosts in your house, it's because they're not really trying to see them. Makes perfect sense. When you REALLY try to see shit, you'll see it!
I'll try to remember that. Thanks.
It's only an "obvious problem with optics" if you assume that his gender matters. An inherently discriminatory assumption.
Those are all common problems women and minorities deal with on a regular basis
[Citation needed]
the fact that you never see them is because you're in the privileged class
Sure. "I totally have a unicorn in my garage. You just can't see it because it's invisible."
The success of East-Asian women in computer science and software engineering proves that gender barriers do not exist.
It depends; how does it compare to the success of East-Asian men in the same fields? If the number of east Asian women in the field is statistically indistinguishable from the number of east Asian men, then yeah, you would have a point. However I strongly suspect that this is not the case.
Are you seriously suggesting that women are a minority group?
Sorry, I'm confused ... are you ignoring the fact that the current case is one of a Chinese company suing the US government, while your example cases are ones of foreign companies suing Chinese companies? Or are you just implicitly acknowledging that Chinese companies are in fact an extension of their government, and, as such, assuming that suing a Chinese company is equivalent to suing their government?
In addition, of the two juggernaut nations, one has had a proven MO of fomenting chaos (read regime change) in distant lands, the other country has mostly followed bilateral cooperation even though some experts have seen this as a form of imperialism.
Ah, another millennial who thinks history started in the last few decades.
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Your first link talks about photo radar and is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
Your second and third link talk about making amber lights longer than 4 seconds on high-speed roads, and do not even remotely suggest that the light duration has been lowered after bringing in cameras.
Nice "citations".
Has that excuse ever worked for you? "Sorry officer, I'm human, and we suck at multitasking ...."