Last time in serbia, a yugo was $6k or so tax paid, and around $9k for a lada niva.
True, but look at what you're getting for the money. You can buy a KIA for around $10k in Canada that's far superior to the Lada. And as for the Yugo... those things should come with a free coffin and funeral service. I'd feel safer and more comfortable on a JATO powered segway.
But I think the bare necessities (food, shelter) and definitely sin things (liquor, cigs) are/far/ cheaper. I can get a carton of cigs in serbia for less than a pack costs in Canada;-)
That's mainly because Canada taxes the shit out of all "sin" items. You can still buy a pack of smokes for $1.50 in some parts of the US - in Canada you'd be hard pressed to get them for under $7, unless you buy 'em from the natives. And the natives will sell 'em to you for as low as $10 per carton (ok, carton as in "plastic bag filled with 200 cigarettes"), so the actual cost involved in manufacture isn't very high.
One thing I really like about east europe that all but disappeared in the west is.. one man operation stores.. and... repairing things! Imagine that.. fixing electronics, shoes, whatever... which becomes economical with lower wages, I suppose.
I'm not sure what there is to like about that - it's just basic economics. Sewing patches on your socks might seem like a good idea to you, but I doubt you'd get much agreement from the people who are forced to do it because their economy sucks so much.
It gets shortened to any number of other things; they don't seem to keep track of sites that are already in the database, and instead assign a new URL each time. It even shortens it's own shortened links. I got bored and made a chain of them - if you click here it will take you through 10 redirects before finally getting to goo.gl.
Well, to start off, your first two requirements are invalid - having smoked marijuana will not disqualify you, nor will your sexual preference as long as you don't come right out and yell "HEY, I LIKE THE PENIS!" during your interview.
As for bosses making "5 times more", that's also unlikely, unless by "bosses" you mean "top earning generals", which would be silly (rather like complaining about the salary of Bill Gates compared to his help-desk workers).
The only valid point you may have is that the civvie-equivalent jobs might pay higher, but even that's open to debate since we don't know how much the military is offering, nor do we know exactly what type of skill-sets and experience they're looking for. It also doesn't take into account bonuses that the military provides, such as medical and dental care, and a guaranteed pension after a relatively short period of time compared to civilian employers.
So, all in all... you're pretty much wrong at every level. Sorry.
It's exceedingly rare these days for someone to move from the proverbial factory floor to anything higher on the totem pole than the equivalent of senior foreman.
Of course it's rare. If you have 2,000 workers for one VP, that means that even if every VP is an ex-worker you'd only have a 1 in 2,000 chance of making VP. In what universe could it be any different?
Yea, I've noticed the decline, and also the change in the way I myself approach commenting and moderating as a result. Sucks. Can't really help you with finding any better sites - I think slashdot is still the best of 'em, although I find that more and more I'm just maintaining my own list of sci/tech related RSS blogs and sites instead of relying on/.
Well, yeah. That's like saying the guy who just set the world record for the 100m sprint is beyond all help when compared to a person with a broken leg. Technically correct, but completely pointless.
I wish I had mod-points. Awesome couple of posts there, man. It's sad that I am no longer surprised when the only intelligent comment on the entire thread manages to receive a score of zero.
I'm pretty sure Lindsay Lohan is all our fault too. Fortunately, in the case of Justin Bieber, we can always blame Canada!
No way! He's a result of your "culture"! It's not our fault that you Americans have completely saturated our entertainment networks in order to brainwash our children!
That's not true. They'll let you have the invention of the nuclear bomb, because then they can blame you for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Although they'll be quick to point out that you couldn't have done it it without "Zionist scientists".
Oh, awesome. So I guess any day now I should see an article titled "Albert Einstein assisted North Korea in acquiring Nuclear Weapons", or "Movie Industry instrumental in helping Oppressive Regimes conduct surveillance of dissidents".
No one is accusing anyone of plotting literal assassination, but to deny that some people have an interest in shutting down wikileaks is naive.
Sure, but what's that got to do with the price of cheese?
The fact that some conspiracies exist is completely irrelevant to whether or not any given event is caused by a conspiracy. It's also irrelevant to my analysis of his psychological condition:) If a bunch of guys make a statement saying "we quit because we don't like our boss" and your first thought it "OMG CONSPIRAZI!!!!".... well, it's safe to conclude that you could benefit from a few sessions with a psychiatrist.
I'm sure that you're not as ignorant of this event as your sarcasm suggests - they refused a FOIA request to release the video on grounds of political expediency.
The article doesn't say anything about a video, nor does it talk about "political expediency". So you're just talking out of your ass now.
The military report described in that article identifies Wikileaks as an operational threat, and describes several methods which could be used to "damage or destroy" the trust and reputation of Wikileaks.
Yes, and? You said that "some of those groups" are "actively trying to discredit wikileaks". I asked you for evidence - just like I asked for evidence that wikileaks has exposed "conspiracies to cover up illegal activities". Instead you linked to two articles which make vague accusations and provide no evidence to support your assertions.
But nice attempt trying to discredit me as a truther.
I'm starting to think that you don't actually understand what the word "discredit" means. For the record, I'm simply pointing out that your conduct (paranoia) and "research" methods are identical to theirs.
Misleading headline is misleading. Next time, RTFA. However, even if we stick with just the title, it's a big strech to go from "evidence suggests" to "OMFG DEY CUVERED UP STUFF!!!!".
So... once again... example?
There is evidence for that, too [v3.co.uk].
Again, I think your inability to get past the title/subtitle is a serious problem. Nothing in that article suggests that the US government is looking to discredit wikilieaks, let alone that they have actually done so; it only speaks about taking legal action against those who leak classified information. And if the only complaint you can come up with is that they're charging people who violate the terms of their contract and break the law... well, don't expect to be taken seriously.
Paranoia and poor comprehension abilities are a horrible mix. You'd fit right in with the 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
This argument would have more weight if it were not for the fact that because of Wikileaks we have been made more aware of conspiracies to cover up illegal activities...
We have? Example, please?
and that some of those groups whose actions have been uncovered are actively trying to discredit Wikileaks and limit its ability to function
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Last time in serbia, a yugo was $6k or so tax paid, and around $9k for a lada niva.
True, but look at what you're getting for the money. You can buy a KIA for around $10k in Canada that's far superior to the Lada. And as for the Yugo ... those things should come with a free coffin and funeral service. I'd feel safer and more comfortable on a JATO powered segway.
But I think the bare necessities (food, shelter) and definitely sin things (liquor, cigs) are /far/ cheaper. I can get a carton of cigs in serbia for less than a pack costs in Canada ;-)
That's mainly because Canada taxes the shit out of all "sin" items. You can still buy a pack of smokes for $1.50 in some parts of the US - in Canada you'd be hard pressed to get them for under $7, unless you buy 'em from the natives. And the natives will sell 'em to you for as low as $10 per carton (ok, carton as in "plastic bag filled with 200 cigarettes"), so the actual cost involved in manufacture isn't very high.
One thing I really like about east europe that all but disappeared in the west is.. one man operation stores.. and... repairing things! Imagine that.. fixing electronics, shoes, whatever... which becomes economical with lower wages, I suppose.
I'm not sure what there is to like about that - it's just basic economics. Sewing patches on your socks might seem like a good idea to you, but I doubt you'd get much agreement from the people who are forced to do it because their economy sucks so much.
It gets shortened to any number of other things; they don't seem to keep track of sites that are already in the database, and instead assign a new URL each time. It even shortens it's own shortened links. I got bored and made a chain of them - if you click here it will take you through 10 redirects before finally getting to goo.gl.
Doesn't seem to be changing much. As of now, only 3 out of 148 clicks have been from IE. I guess 3 AC's must have clicked the link :)
Can't. GL domain registration requires at least 3 letters.
Also, their domains apparently cost $95 per year, which seems a little steep.
Speak of the devil: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/01/science/space/01nasa.html
All the non-sadistic ones?
lol. Best. Troll. EVER!
Perhaps is comes from the fact that 1 + 1 = 2 is a fiction, because there no two '1's in the universe.
This is what you get for taking "music therapy" as a college major instead of, oh, I dunno ... MATH.
The sad part is that the rest of your comment is actually fairly accurate - it just has absolutely nothing to do with your starting premise.
On another note, I'd LOVE to know why /. insists on submitting half my comments as AC, these days.
There's nobody who appreciates capitalism quite as much as those who have lived under communism.
Really? What about old people? People in wheelchairs, etc.?
In China? They stay home.
Well, to start off, your first two requirements are invalid - having smoked marijuana will not disqualify you, nor will your sexual preference as long as you don't come right out and yell "HEY, I LIKE THE PENIS!" during your interview.
As for bosses making "5 times more", that's also unlikely, unless by "bosses" you mean "top earning generals", which would be silly (rather like complaining about the salary of Bill Gates compared to his help-desk workers).
The only valid point you may have is that the civvie-equivalent jobs might pay higher, but even that's open to debate since we don't know how much the military is offering, nor do we know exactly what type of skill-sets and experience they're looking for. It also doesn't take into account bonuses that the military provides, such as medical and dental care, and a guaranteed pension after a relatively short period of time compared to civilian employers.
So, all in all ... you're pretty much wrong at every level. Sorry.
It's exceedingly rare these days for someone to move from the proverbial factory floor to anything higher on the totem pole than the equivalent of senior foreman.
Of course it's rare. If you have 2,000 workers for one VP, that means that even if every VP is an ex-worker you'd only have a 1 in 2,000 chance of making VP. In what universe could it be any different?
Why do you hate science?
Yea, I've noticed the decline, and also the change in the way I myself approach commenting and moderating as a result. Sucks. Can't really help you with finding any better sites - I think slashdot is still the best of 'em, although I find that more and more I'm just maintaining my own list of sci/tech related RSS blogs and sites instead of relying on /.
Well, yeah. That's like saying the guy who just set the world record for the 100m sprint is beyond all help when compared to a person with a broken leg. Technically correct, but completely pointless.
I wish I had mod-points. Awesome couple of posts there, man. It's sad that I am no longer surprised when the only intelligent comment on the entire thread manages to receive a score of zero.
I'm pretty sure Lindsay Lohan is all our fault too. Fortunately, in the case of Justin Bieber, we can always blame Canada!
No way! He's a result of your "culture"! It's not our fault that you Americans have completely saturated our entertainment networks in order to brainwash our children!
That's not true. They'll let you have the invention of the nuclear bomb, because then they can blame you for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Although they'll be quick to point out that you couldn't have done it it without "Zionist scientists".
Oh, awesome. So I guess any day now I should see an article titled "Albert Einstein assisted North Korea in acquiring Nuclear Weapons", or "Movie Industry instrumental in helping Oppressive Regimes conduct surveillance of dissidents".
Read the whole sentence:
Almost all of Sun's open source projects have either been neglected (abandoned?) by Oracle or moved to a less-friendly license (OpenSolaris anyone?).
No one is accusing anyone of plotting literal assassination, but to deny that some people have an interest in shutting down wikileaks is naive.
Sure, but what's that got to do with the price of cheese?
The fact that some conspiracies exist is completely irrelevant to whether or not any given event is caused by a conspiracy. It's also irrelevant to my analysis of his psychological condition :) If a bunch of guys make a statement saying "we quit because we don't like our boss" and your first thought it "OMG CONSPIRAZI!!!!" .... well, it's safe to conclude that you could benefit from a few sessions with a psychiatrist.
I'm sure that you're not as ignorant of this event as your sarcasm suggests - they refused a FOIA request to release the video on grounds of political expediency.
The article doesn't say anything about a video, nor does it talk about "political expediency". So you're just talking out of your ass now.
The military report described in that article identifies Wikileaks as an operational threat, and describes several methods which could be used to "damage or destroy" the trust and reputation of Wikileaks.
Yes, and? You said that "some of those groups" are "actively trying to discredit wikileaks". I asked you for evidence - just like I asked for evidence that wikileaks has exposed "conspiracies to cover up illegal activities". Instead you linked to two articles which make vague accusations and provide no evidence to support your assertions.
But nice attempt trying to discredit me as a truther.
I'm starting to think that you don't actually understand what the word "discredit" means. For the record, I'm simply pointing out that your conduct (paranoia) and "research" methods are identical to theirs.
Sure [telegraph.co.uk]
Misleading headline is misleading. Next time, RTFA. However, even if we stick with just the title, it's a big strech to go from "evidence suggests" to "OMFG DEY CUVERED UP STUFF!!!!".
So ... once again ... example?
There is evidence for that, too [v3.co.uk].
Again, I think your inability to get past the title/subtitle is a serious problem. Nothing in that article suggests that the US government is looking to discredit wikilieaks, let alone that they have actually done so; it only speaks about taking legal action against those who leak classified information. And if the only complaint you can come up with is that they're charging people who violate the terms of their contract and break the law ... well, don't expect to be taken seriously.
Paranoia and poor comprehension abilities are a horrible mix. You'd fit right in with the 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
This argument would have more weight if it were not for the fact that because of Wikileaks we have been made more aware of conspiracies to cover up illegal activities ...
We have? Example, please?
and that some of those groups whose actions have been uncovered are actively trying to discredit Wikileaks and limit its ability to function
Oh, I see. More paranoia. NM then.