This is REAL, not vaporware. It's accepted simple chemisty, proven over 50 years of use, finally attacked and refined with modern improvements in heat exchangers, electrolizers, and more, plus being combined with wind energy (actually solving one of Wind's biggest issues, off-peak overproduction), and the enture process is carbon nuetral...
If you believe that, I have a really neat water-powered car to sell you... gets 8,000 miles per gallon, and even comes with an ice-cube dispenser.
That depends on what kind of PV cells you're using, since they vary greatly in both efficiency and cost. It's true that the up-front cost (both in terms of energy and materials) of PV cells is rather high, however, their 20+ year lifespan tends to amortize the initial investment nicely over time. Whereas if you're producing energy from plants, you have ongoing harvesting, processing, and distribution costs which may be comparable or greater than your initial investment in PV would have been.
I'm not picking sides here - I think both solar and biological energy sources can be effective in different applications. However, it's silly to just state that "plants are better" because they don't require much energy to produce, without taking into account all the other factors.
Easy there, Che. You might break a nail with such forceful typing.
The best thing about you "revolutionary" tards is that, for the most part, you're a bunch of cowards. At worst, one of you may pull a Tim McVeigh and blow up a bunch of innocent civilians. That's bad, but random acts of violence don't concern me much. I know that your talk will never turn into anything really serious, and that's all that matters. So go ahead, keep flapping your gums - you're a source of great amusement for the sane population.
Texas has a land area of 696,241 square km. New York City has a land area of 1,214 square kilometers, with a population of 8,363,710. Doing some quick math, at that density you could fit about 4.7 billion people into Texas.
The math only works if you ignore the parts of NYC which are water, in which case the total area is 789.4 square kilometers. At that density, you could fit 7.3 billion people into Texas.
So yeah, the "line" is right, if we ignore the fact that 1/3 of New York City is water, and assume that all of Texas is dry land. Although, to be fair, the 4.7 billion is also fairly close.
Also, I haven't yet heard anybody coming up with a plan for disposal of all of these batteries once electric cars become more common.
Then you must be wearing earplugs 24/7. Even someone who's never considered the subject would tell you that batteries can be recycled. While the methods used are not profitable at present, you can bet your ass they'd become profitable if we suddenly had tens of millions of car battery packs to recycle every 5 years. Even if that failed, though, the added cost could be made up by adding a surcharge on each new battery. Many places already have environmental disposal fees, so it's not exactly a new idea.
Don't you just love it when some ignoramus watches a clearly biased "documentary" and magically turns into an expert on everything related to the subject?
And to think that people once thought that television would revolutionize education. I guess it did, after a fashion... but I doubt that this is what they had in mind.
i just want you to know, that if you divide the population of the planet into families of 4, and gave each family a house with a yard (suburbanite america style) that we would all fit into a city the size of Texas.
And we'd all have one hell of a commute!
Anyway, I did some quick math, and I figure with a 30x30 meter lot (that's about 90 feet on a side, if you're non-metric), you would have about 745 million lots in Texas. Given that there are upwards of 6.5 billion of us on this planet, you wouldn't even have enough homes for HALF of the worlds population.
Of course, my math might be wrong, so if you'd show me your calculations that would be great!
When China has a monopoly on the lithium needed for the batteries, and is reportedly planning to reserve it for internal use?
Even if that were true (which it isn't) we're already working on developing batteries using different materials. Silver-zinc is one possibility. MIT's carbon-nanotube super-capacitor research is also pretty exciting. It's silly to assume that lithium-ion batteries are the best we'll ever be able to produce.
If you're going to be commenting on legal matters, you should really consider changing your sig. Otherwise, anyone who didn't vote for Ron Paul will immediately dismiss your opinions.
Another step closer to a bloody second American revolution.
Yah. A handful of low IQ militia hicks and paranoid conspiracy theorists vs. a military force which can roll over entire nations in roughly 2 weeks. That'd be one heck of a contest! For some reason I'm getting the mental image of a sloth being tossed into a cage full of tigers....
On the other hand, if you taped it and called it "Survivor America", your ratings would be off the charts!
Yes, let's strap rocket engines to our oil tankers. I can't see a problem with that.
go around
Sure, let's turn a 2,000 km trip into a 20,000 kilometer trip. That's a great idea! Why spend a few thousand dollars when you can spend a few million, I always say!
or surrender and pay the ransom
Great! If people start following your advice, I think I'll get into the pirating business myself!
In other words, exactly what they're doing now. Shipping is big business - people with more and better data then slashdot have done the cost/benefit analysis, and what we're seeing are the results.
Their cost/benefit analysis breaks down if piracy increases past a certain level, and their short-sighted policies are leading to exactly that result.
Yeah, if you own 500 pizza stores and one of your managers gets roughed up by the local gang and hit for "protection money", the most cost-effective measure you can take is to pay the extortion and carry on with business. Your cost/benefit model starts to look a lot different when several chapters of the newly expanded gang start hassling 50 of your stores, but, if you're stupid and cowardly enough, you might still keep paying. You may finally come to regret your short-sighted foolishness when the now-country-wide mob starts going after 499 of your stores, but by then it's too late. Know why? Because a big chunk of every payment you made was spent to buy more weapons, better equipment, and to entice more criminals to sign up. Instead of spending money to discourage further attacks, you've encouraged them to attack you more often AND have made them more dangerous in the process. Whereas initially you could have stopped them by hiring a dozen security guards, you'll now need your own private army with assault rifles and kevlar. So, instead, you'll keep ponying up the money like the silly git you are, until one day the mob decides that it's more profitable to just take over your stores, and send you to sleep with the fishies.
I've never understood how people can adopt such a sheep-like mentality. Could you shed some light on that?
Well, out of the three people who responded you're the only one who actually knows what he's talking about, so you get a gold star for that. However, even if you're only talking about the Taliban, it's completely wrong to say that "the CIA is solely responsible for arming those guys". Funding for the Mujahidin came from a variety of sources, including private individuals and religious and government organizations. There's no question that much if not most of the money - as well as the biggest tie-breaker, the stinger missile systems - came from the US/CIA. However, as long as you maintain that they were "solely funded" by the CIA... you're flat-out wrong.
All of which has nothing to do with the original comment I was responding to, since the guy was trying to create a link between funding of these factions in the 80's and their actions today. While you could make the argument that some fraction of the AK's being used by the Taliban today were bought with US funds in the 80's, the percentage would be rather low. You may also notice that they don't seem to have any Stingers left, while they never seem to run out of RPG rounds, AK ammo, and soviet-caliber mortar rounds.
Because if your civilian job requires you to man.50 caliber machine guns while facing men armed with RPG lauchers; You're doing it wrong!
Really? So how should they be doing it? What would your advice be to a ship-owner who has just taken on a route which exposes him to piracy? "Go home"?
Take a look at Afghanistan. Who did the most to arm those people? Right -- 'twas CIA, at the time they hoped to give the Soviets a run for their money.
Really? Funny how they're all armed with AK's and RPG's instead of M-16's and M-72's. I know, I know, must be that wily CIA, trying to implicate the Russians! Good thing me and you can see past the deception!
I love it! You get an informative mod and I get a troll one for saying the exact same thing. Moderator hypocrisy seems to be on full display today, doesn't it?
Naw, slashdot mods are just slow and sporadic. On the bright side, it's only a matter of time until you both get modded down for trolling.
Uh, with 8 million requests in a year I'd say it's already very 1984ish.
What you don't realize is that 7.9 million of those requests were generated by LEO officers trying to keep tabs on their teenage daughters. The other.1 were guys checking up on their wives.
Well, if by same stuff you mean "paint" then, yeah ok. Or if you mean "atoms", then you'll be even closer to the truth. But as for the patterns created by the paint... you couldn't be farther from the truth.
To put it in less figurative language: the likelihood that alien lifeforms will have a genetic coding that is structured the same way as DNA or RNA is slim, but possible. The likelihood that their DNA/RNA will slightly resemble that of Earth life is more remote, but still not impossible. The likelihood of their DNA/RNA being "the same as Earth", on the other hand, is so remote as to be completely impossible.
Amazing. Maybe I only find it so emotional because I've recently watched the posthumous autotune of Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Check it here if you haven't seen it. And here's the relevant quote:
"How lucky we are to live in this time. The first moment in human history. When we are, in fact visiting other worlds."
ancient microbial life on Mars was carried to Earth in a Martian meteorite.
I don't think you actually read TFA. Here's a quote:
It showed that microscopic worm-like structures found in a Martian meteorite that hit the Earth 13,000 years ago are almost certainly fossilised bacteria.
FYI, life on Earth has existed for more than 13,000 years. Even given a few million years in orbit before hitting the earth, these meteorites would post-date the emergence of life on earth.
Of course, if you're a YEC, just forget I said anything;)
The word you were looking for is "soil": Mars soil.
No. Soil, by definition, is rock and minerals mixed with organic matter. Mars doesn't have soil. The proper word is "regolith", the same as the surface of the moon.
Slashdot Mirror
This is REAL, not vaporware. It's accepted simple chemisty, proven over 50 years of use, finally attacked and refined with modern improvements in heat exchangers, electrolizers, and more, plus being combined with wind energy (actually solving one of Wind's biggest issues, off-peak overproduction), and the enture process is carbon nuetral...
If you believe that, I have a really neat water-powered car to sell you ... gets 8,000 miles per gallon, and even comes with an ice-cube dispenser.
That depends on what kind of PV cells you're using, since they vary greatly in both efficiency and cost. It's true that the up-front cost (both in terms of energy and materials) of PV cells is rather high, however, their 20+ year lifespan tends to amortize the initial investment nicely over time. Whereas if you're producing energy from plants, you have ongoing harvesting, processing, and distribution costs which may be comparable or greater than your initial investment in PV would have been.
I'm not picking sides here - I think both solar and biological energy sources can be effective in different applications. However, it's silly to just state that "plants are better" because they don't require much energy to produce, without taking into account all the other factors.
Easy there, Che. You might break a nail with such forceful typing.
The best thing about you "revolutionary" tards is that, for the most part, you're a bunch of cowards. At worst, one of you may pull a Tim McVeigh and blow up a bunch of innocent civilians. That's bad, but random acts of violence don't concern me much. I know that your talk will never turn into anything really serious, and that's all that matters. So go ahead, keep flapping your gums - you're a source of great amusement for the sane population.
Texas has a land area of 696,241 square km. New York City has a land area of 1,214 square kilometers, with a population of 8,363,710. Doing some quick math, at that density you could fit about 4.7 billion people into Texas.
The math only works if you ignore the parts of NYC which are water, in which case the total area is 789.4 square kilometers. At that density, you could fit 7.3 billion people into Texas.
So yeah, the "line" is right, if we ignore the fact that 1/3 of New York City is water, and assume that all of Texas is dry land. Although, to be fair, the 4.7 billion is also fairly close.
Also, I haven't yet heard anybody coming up with a plan for disposal of all of these batteries once electric cars become more common.
Then you must be wearing earplugs 24/7. Even someone who's never considered the subject would tell you that batteries can be recycled. While the methods used are not profitable at present, you can bet your ass they'd become profitable if we suddenly had tens of millions of car battery packs to recycle every 5 years. Even if that failed, though, the added cost could be made up by adding a surcharge on each new battery. Many places already have environmental disposal fees, so it's not exactly a new idea.
Don't you just love it when some ignoramus watches a clearly biased "documentary" and magically turns into an expert on everything related to the subject?
And to think that people once thought that television would revolutionize education. I guess it did, after a fashion ... but I doubt that this is what they had in mind.
i just want you to know, that if you divide the population of the planet into families of 4, and gave each family a house with a yard (suburbanite america style) that we would all fit into a city the size of Texas.
And we'd all have one hell of a commute!
Anyway, I did some quick math, and I figure with a 30x30 meter lot (that's about 90 feet on a side, if you're non-metric), you would have about 745 million lots in Texas. Given that there are upwards of 6.5 billion of us on this planet, you wouldn't even have enough homes for HALF of the worlds population.
Of course, my math might be wrong, so if you'd show me your calculations that would be great!
I've NEVER seen a comment more deserving of a "troll" mod!
When China has a monopoly on the lithium needed for the batteries, and is reportedly planning to reserve it for internal use?
Even if that were true (which it isn't) we're already working on developing batteries using different materials. Silver-zinc is one possibility. MIT's carbon-nanotube super-capacitor research is also pretty exciting. It's silly to assume that lithium-ion batteries are the best we'll ever be able to produce.
If you're going to be commenting on legal matters, you should really consider changing your sig. Otherwise, anyone who didn't vote for Ron Paul will immediately dismiss your opinions.
Another step closer to a bloody second American revolution.
Yah. A handful of low IQ militia hicks and paranoid conspiracy theorists vs. a military force which can roll over entire nations in roughly 2 weeks. That'd be one heck of a contest! For some reason I'm getting the mental image of a sloth being tossed into a cage full of tigers ....
On the other hand, if you taped it and called it "Survivor America", your ratings would be off the charts!
Go faster
Yes, let's strap rocket engines to our oil tankers. I can't see a problem with that.
go around
Sure, let's turn a 2,000 km trip into a 20,000 kilometer trip. That's a great idea! Why spend a few thousand dollars when you can spend a few million, I always say!
or surrender and pay the ransom
Great! If people start following your advice, I think I'll get into the pirating business myself!
In other words, exactly what they're doing now. Shipping is big business - people with more and better data then slashdot have done the cost/benefit analysis, and what we're seeing are the results.
Their cost/benefit analysis breaks down if piracy increases past a certain level, and their short-sighted policies are leading to exactly that result.
Yeah, if you own 500 pizza stores and one of your managers gets roughed up by the local gang and hit for "protection money", the most cost-effective measure you can take is to pay the extortion and carry on with business. Your cost/benefit model starts to look a lot different when several chapters of the newly expanded gang start hassling 50 of your stores, but, if you're stupid and cowardly enough, you might still keep paying. You may finally come to regret your short-sighted foolishness when the now-country-wide mob starts going after 499 of your stores, but by then it's too late. Know why? Because a big chunk of every payment you made was spent to buy more weapons, better equipment, and to entice more criminals to sign up. Instead of spending money to discourage further attacks, you've encouraged them to attack you more often AND have made them more dangerous in the process. Whereas initially you could have stopped them by hiring a dozen security guards, you'll now need your own private army with assault rifles and kevlar. So, instead, you'll keep ponying up the money like the silly git you are, until one day the mob decides that it's more profitable to just take over your stores, and send you to sleep with the fishies.
I've never understood how people can adopt such a sheep-like mentality. Could you shed some light on that?
Well, out of the three people who responded you're the only one who actually knows what he's talking about, so you get a gold star for that. However, even if you're only talking about the Taliban, it's completely wrong to say that "the CIA is solely responsible for arming those guys". Funding for the Mujahidin came from a variety of sources, including private individuals and religious and government organizations. There's no question that much if not most of the money - as well as the biggest tie-breaker, the stinger missile systems - came from the US/CIA. However, as long as you maintain that they were "solely funded" by the CIA ... you're flat-out wrong.
All of which has nothing to do with the original comment I was responding to, since the guy was trying to create a link between funding of these factions in the 80's and their actions today. While you could make the argument that some fraction of the AK's being used by the Taliban today were bought with US funds in the 80's, the percentage would be rather low. You may also notice that they don't seem to have any Stingers left, while they never seem to run out of RPG rounds, AK ammo, and soviet-caliber mortar rounds.
do ports allow you to dock if your ship is armed?
They do if they know what's good for them!
Because if your civilian job requires you to man .50 caliber machine guns while facing men armed with RPG lauchers; You're doing it wrong!
Really? So how should they be doing it? What would your advice be to a ship-owner who has just taken on a route which exposes him to piracy? "Go home"?
Take a look at Afghanistan. Who did the most to arm those people? Right -- 'twas CIA, at the time they hoped to give the Soviets a run for their money.
Really? Funny how they're all armed with AK's and RPG's instead of M-16's and M-72's. I know, I know, must be that wily CIA, trying to implicate the Russians! Good thing me and you can see past the deception!
And you get "Flame Wrong Orgy", which, strangely, doesn't seem all that unusual on Slashdot.
Funny :) I shudder to think what your response would have been, had I said "ATM machines" ...
I love it! You get an informative mod and I get a troll one for saying the exact same thing. Moderator hypocrisy seems to be on full display today, doesn't it?
Naw, slashdot mods are just slow and sporadic. On the bright side, it's only a matter of time until you both get modded down for trolling.
Uh, with 8 million requests in a year I'd say it's already very 1984ish.
What you don't realize is that 7.9 million of those requests were generated by LEO officers trying to keep tabs on their teenage daughters. The other .1 were guys checking up on their wives.
Well, if by same stuff you mean "paint" then, yeah ok. Or if you mean "atoms", then you'll be even closer to the truth. But as for the patterns created by the paint ... you couldn't be farther from the truth.
To put it in less figurative language: the likelihood that alien lifeforms will have a genetic coding that is structured the same way as DNA or RNA is slim, but possible. The likelihood that their DNA/RNA will slightly resemble that of Earth life is more remote, but still not impossible. The likelihood of their DNA/RNA being "the same as Earth", on the other hand, is so remote as to be completely impossible.
Amazing. Maybe I only find it so emotional because I've recently watched the posthumous autotune of Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Check it here if you haven't seen it. And here's the relevant quote:
"How lucky we are to live in this time. The first moment in human history. When we are, in fact visiting other worlds."
Umm, TFA?
ancient microbial life on Mars was carried to Earth in a Martian meteorite.
I don't think you actually read TFA. Here's a quote:
It showed that microscopic worm-like structures found in a Martian meteorite that hit the Earth 13,000 years ago are almost certainly fossilised bacteria.
FYI, life on Earth has existed for more than 13,000 years. Even given a few million years in orbit before hitting the earth, these meteorites would post-date the emergence of life on earth.
Of course, if you're a YEC, just forget I said anything ;)
The word you were looking for is "soil": Mars soil.
No. Soil, by definition, is rock and minerals mixed with organic matter. Mars doesn't have soil. The proper word is "regolith", the same as the surface of the moon.
The life was on Mars first though - so they'd be more likely to find an ancient rover on Earth...
Do you have evidence of that, or are you just one of those "pyramids on mars" wackos?