Please enlighten me: what do Jesus and explosives have to do with eachother?
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When, in fact, it is even worse. USA is the only one ever even to actually use the nuclear weapons. 250,000 dead... talking about WMD.
Stupidest. Argument. EVER.
It's no wonder I hear it so much from anti-american assholes.
I know this is going to be a strange concept for you, but here goes anyway: things were different in the past! That's right! At one time, burning women for witchcraft was considered a-ok! Drawing and quartering your enemies was a daily event! And theocratic oppression was the game everyone could play!
The world changes, even if you refuse to change with it. Your argument is the equivalent of stating that nothing should ever get any better. If we once did something "bad", everyone should keep doing it for the rest of eternity. We never have the right to condemn anyones actions, because our great-grandparents may have done the same thing. That sort of moral-equivalence is beyond idiotic. I honestly beleive that people like you are WORSE than the evil people of this world. At least they make an effort to do something. You just sit in the middle swaying with the wind, until it's too late to do anything but be swept away by the hurricane.
As for your "WMD" nonsense, you ignore the fact that the firebombing of Dresden killed more people than Hiroshima and Nagasaki put together. The A-bombs weren't used for their radioactive properties, or in order to inflict massive casualties - the purpose of dropping those bombs was to scare the shit out of Japan and make them surrender. And guess what, it worked, probably saving millions of lives (on BOTH sides) in the process.
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Its called "living outside the US".
Great, I live outside the US too! Give me your address, would you?
Please. Everyone CHOOSES to visit windows update. Who in their right mind would disable that feature?
If you really want, you absolutely could use a firewall app to prevent your computer from accessing any and all microsoft websites. But if you're that paranoid, you're probably better off just taking a pair of scissors to your network cable.
No, paintballs leave bruises, simmunition has a tendency to break skin quite nicely. Heck, I've seen it take chunks out of drywall and wooden doors, so I try to avoid getting hit with the stuff as much as possible.
Ah, yes, I've heard this particular conspiracy theory before. It's cute, and relatively harmless, so I'm willing to simply laugh at it instead of trying to change your mind.
Weaker countries ride on the coat-tails of the stronger ones. Best example I can think of is Canada - for decades we've been able to neglect all our national defence responsibilities because we live next door to a guy with some really big guns. Ofcourse, this doesn't mean that being small is better, only that it's nice to be small and have big friends.
Because we don't trust you not to sell it, that's why. People like you would gladly have given the D-Day plans to the Nazis for free, just for the sake of getting rid of some of those nasty government secrets.
Yeah. Let's start with keys for military frequencies. Publish them on the internet. Then we'll move on to nuclear launch codes. Everyone should have a set of those. Alternately, they could get rid of the codes entirely and just hook all the nukes up to a big red button.
What exactly does this particular bit of stupidity have to do with German privacy laws? And why is it that no matter what the problem or where it occurs, someone will use it as an excuse to say something derogatory about the US?
Check out this article while you're at it. Seems Ontario's Attorney General thinks it's ok that "cars adapted for street racing can be seized and destroyed, even if charges haven't been laid and a race has not taken place". In other words, screw the legal system, if the cops think your car may be used for street racing at somer point, they can impound it and destroy it and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
See, these events are the ultimate result of creating a nanny-state. Eventually the government will want to take away ALL your rights, while insisting it's doing it to "protect you". People insist that the US is a police state, while I as a Canadian can be arrested for unpopular speech, have severe limitations on the ownership of weapons, don't have the right to protect my property with physical force of ANY kind, including open-hand control, and now can have my private property destroyed by the government just because I'm suspected of maybe intending to commit a crime. Face it, we lost our rights a long time ago. Those of you protesting against this DMCA act are trying to close the barn doors after all the animals have run off, and the rest of the barn burned to the ground.
Well, a certain liberal idiot may wish to check the members list for the group which generated these suggestions. You may notice that the number of conservatives and liberals is equal, while also including several members of the Bloc Québécois, the NDP, and even an independent.
But where would be the fun in that, right? Knee-jerk generalizations are just SO much more fun!
An article written in 1989 which says "the service has begun a $175 million program to shield the Black Hawk's flight control computers from such radiation"? WTF? I mean, thanks for the interesting reading, but let's not be silly here...
You can't find a link because it's nonsense. Most military electronics are hardened against EMP, but you expect the Howard Stern Show to knock them out of the air? Not likely.
Wrong. I've examined it in detail. I've even made comments on it here in the past. Which is why I can safely say that those who believe in it are either conspiracy nuts, or just haven't bothered to research it.
Every conspiracy theorist uses the same logic. For example, compare and contrast:
"9/11 WUZ AN INSAID JOB!!! U"R DA ONE DAT'S DA CONSPIRACY THEORY! DIDN'T U EVER HERE OF OPARETION NORTHWOODS?!?! THE USS LIBERTY!??! DEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED!! GO BACK TO YOUR BILL O"REILY YOU SHEEPLE!!!1ONE!!ELEVEN!"
vs
"So I guess Enron didn't really cause rolling blackouts in California just to drive up the price of electricity?..... I guess MCI/ Worldcom CEO Bernie Ebbers wasn't really convicted of conpsiracy to commit securities fraud in the $11 Billion Worldcom collapse..... That type of head-in-the-sand attitude helps no one."
Now, granted, you sound a bit more reasonable than the 9/11 conspiracy nuts, but only on the surface. When we actually examine your reasoning, you use the exact same logical fallacy that every conspiracy theory makes use of, and the original post used several common logical fallacies, as well as many lies. Unfortunately, as they say "A lie can travel halfway round the world while the truth is putting on its shoes". Debunking this type of nonsense takes way too much time. If you're interested in improving your critical thinking skills, and minimizing the chances of you being fooled again, check out the James Randi Educational Foundation. Otherwise, carry on believing whatever you want.
Oh absolutely, a good transportation system can make a huge difference. Still, most middle class families with children will want to live in the suburbs no matter how good the transportation system in the city may be, so you're always going to have urban sprawl. I did my bit living downtown in my early 20's. After a while it gets to you. I'm only 26 now and already I prefer owning a house in a nice quiet neighbourhood outside the city. As long as the land is available, high-density cities will be the exception rather than the norm in North America.
Every time I think that the Slashdot crowd may have regained some of their critical thinking skills, some fool goes and posts a whackjob conspiracy theory and gets modded +5 informative. What's next? Gonna tell us all THE TRUTH about the Kennedy assassination? Or maybe you'd like to talk about the Apollo moon landing? Let me guess, Kennedy was whacked because he wanted to buy an electric car, and the moon landing was faked because all that rocket exhaust makes people want to buy gasoline, right?
Convenient public transport is only viable when you have a high population density. As a bonus, when you have an extremely high population density, personal vehicles become LESS convenient. As such, Tokyo, which probably has a higher population density than any city on earth, is perfectly suited for such a system. New York City is also a good place to put an extensive public transportation network. Middle-of-nowhere Idaho, on the other hand, would not be. The US, like Canada, is large enough that a nation wide public transportation network is totally impractical. And even in large cities, where public transportation could possibly provide a good alternative, you have the problem of urban sprawl to contend with.
"2) He lied about the ease of buying weapons and ammunition in Canada."
That's from Bowling for columbine. Others from the same movie:
The shooting at the school in michigan: he tries to make the (child) shooter look innocent, and says "No one knew why the little boy wanted to shoot the little girl". In fact, the same kid had already been suspended for stabbing a classmate with a pencil, and had fought with the same girl the day before. Since then, he has stabbed another kid, this time with a knife.
He also says that the US gave about $250 million to Taliban ruled Afghanistan, and suggests that this money was for military aid. In reality, the money was given through the UN and NGO's, and was for famine relief.
And so on, and so forth. The only defence ever offered for Moore's behaviour is along the lines of "well, ok, but the underlying message is true!". I shouldn't need to point out why this line of argument is idiotic.
Make no mistake about it, ALL of his movies and books contain dozens of these "errors". I'm not going to get into documenting all of them here; if you're really interested, google can help you find a whackload more. The important thing is that judging by every piece of work I've seen him produce, he's not only a sloppy researcher but is quite often intentionally dishonest. This should be clear to any semi-intelligent person who isn't blinded by his or her political ideology.
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Please enlighten me: what do Jesus and explosives have to do with eachother?
It's no wonder I hear it so much from anti-american assholes.
I know this is going to be a strange concept for you, but here goes anyway: things were different in the past! That's right! At one time, burning women for witchcraft was considered a-ok! Drawing and quartering your enemies was a daily event! And theocratic oppression was the game everyone could play!
The world changes, even if you refuse to change with it. Your argument is the equivalent of stating that nothing should ever get any better. If we once did something "bad", everyone should keep doing it for the rest of eternity. We never have the right to condemn anyones actions, because our great-grandparents may have done the same thing. That sort of moral-equivalence is beyond idiotic. I honestly beleive that people like you are WORSE than the evil people of this world. At least they make an effort to do something. You just sit in the middle swaying with the wind, until it's too late to do anything but be swept away by the hurricane.
As for your "WMD" nonsense, you ignore the fact that the firebombing of Dresden killed more people than Hiroshima and Nagasaki put together. The A-bombs weren't used for their radioactive properties, or in order to inflict massive casualties - the purpose of dropping those bombs was to scare the shit out of Japan and make them surrender. And guess what, it worked, probably saving millions of lives (on BOTH sides) in the process.
Please. Everyone CHOOSES to visit windows update. Who in their right mind would disable that feature?
If you really want, you absolutely could use a firewall app to prevent your computer from accessing any and all microsoft websites. But if you're that paranoid, you're probably better off just taking a pair of scissors to your network cable.
No, paintballs leave bruises, simmunition has a tendency to break skin quite nicely. Heck, I've seen it take chunks out of drywall and wooden doors, so I try to avoid getting hit with the stuff as much as possible.
Geographically isolated?
Well, you see, we have these wonderful inventions these days called "ships" and "airplanes"....
Ah, yes, I've heard this particular conspiracy theory before. It's cute, and relatively harmless, so I'm willing to simply laugh at it instead of trying to change your mind.
Weaker countries ride on the coat-tails of the stronger ones. Best example I can think of is Canada - for decades we've been able to neglect all our national defence responsibilities because we live next door to a guy with some really big guns. Ofcourse, this doesn't mean that being small is better, only that it's nice to be small and have big friends.
Thanks, Mz. Cleo!
And you'll all be happy to know that Shadowrun kicks some serious butt. I now have even less reason to switch to Vista!
Oh, well if an online poll says so, then surely it must be true!
Because we don't trust you not to sell it, that's why. People like you would gladly have given the D-Day plans to the Nazis for free, just for the sake of getting rid of some of those nasty government secrets.
I'm sorry, did you just seriously suggest that the military shouldn't have secure comms?
Your level of ignorance is astounding.
Yeah. Let's start with keys for military frequencies. Publish them on the internet. Then we'll move on to nuclear launch codes. Everyone should have a set of those. Alternately, they could get rid of the codes entirely and just hook all the nukes up to a big red button.
What exactly does this particular bit of stupidity have to do with German privacy laws? And why is it that no matter what the problem or where it occurs, someone will use it as an excuse to say something derogatory about the US?
Check out this article while you're at it. Seems Ontario's Attorney General thinks it's ok that "cars adapted for street racing can be seized and destroyed, even if charges haven't been laid and a race has not taken place". In other words, screw the legal system, if the cops think your car may be used for street racing at somer point, they can impound it and destroy it and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
See, these events are the ultimate result of creating a nanny-state. Eventually the government will want to take away ALL your rights, while insisting it's doing it to "protect you". People insist that the US is a police state, while I as a Canadian can be arrested for unpopular speech, have severe limitations on the ownership of weapons, don't have the right to protect my property with physical force of ANY kind, including open-hand control, and now can have my private property destroyed by the government just because I'm suspected of maybe intending to commit a crime. Face it, we lost our rights a long time ago. Those of you protesting against this DMCA act are trying to close the barn doors after all the animals have run off, and the rest of the barn burned to the ground.
"our current conservative idiots"?
Well, a certain liberal idiot may wish to check the members list for the group which generated these suggestions. You may notice that the number of conservatives and liberals is equal, while also including several members of the Bloc Québécois, the NDP, and even an independent.
But where would be the fun in that, right? Knee-jerk generalizations are just SO much more fun!
An article written in 1989 which says "the service has begun a $175 million program to shield the Black Hawk's flight control computers from such radiation"? WTF? I mean, thanks for the interesting reading, but let's not be silly here...
You can't find a link because it's nonsense. Most military electronics are hardened against EMP, but you expect the Howard Stern Show to knock them out of the air? Not likely.
Every conspiracy theorist uses the same logic. For example, compare and contrast:
..... I guess MCI/ Worldcom CEO Bernie Ebbers wasn't really convicted of conpsiracy to commit securities fraud in the $11 Billion Worldcom collapse. .... That type of head-in-the-sand attitude helps no one."
"9/11 WUZ AN INSAID JOB!!! U"R DA ONE DAT'S DA CONSPIRACY THEORY! DIDN'T U EVER HERE OF OPARETION NORTHWOODS?!?! THE USS LIBERTY!??! DEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED!! GO BACK TO YOUR BILL O"REILY YOU SHEEPLE!!!1ONE!!ELEVEN!"
vs
"So I guess Enron didn't really cause rolling blackouts in California just to drive up the price of electricity?
Now, granted, you sound a bit more reasonable than the 9/11 conspiracy nuts, but only on the surface. When we actually examine your reasoning, you use the exact same logical fallacy that every conspiracy theory makes use of, and the original post used several common logical fallacies, as well as many lies. Unfortunately, as they say "A lie can travel halfway round the world while the truth is putting on its shoes". Debunking this type of nonsense takes way too much time. If you're interested in improving your critical thinking skills, and minimizing the chances of you being fooled again, check out the James Randi Educational Foundation. Otherwise, carry on believing whatever you want.
Oh absolutely, a good transportation system can make a huge difference. Still, most middle class families with children will want to live in the suburbs no matter how good the transportation system in the city may be, so you're always going to have urban sprawl. I did my bit living downtown in my early 20's. After a while it gets to you. I'm only 26 now and already I prefer owning a house in a nice quiet neighbourhood outside the city. As long as the land is available, high-density cities will be the exception rather than the norm in North America.
Every time I think that the Slashdot crowd may have regained some of their critical thinking skills, some fool goes and posts a whackjob conspiracy theory and gets modded +5 informative. What's next? Gonna tell us all THE TRUTH about the Kennedy assassination? Or maybe you'd like to talk about the Apollo moon landing? Let me guess, Kennedy was whacked because he wanted to buy an electric car, and the moon landing was faked because all that rocket exhaust makes people want to buy gasoline, right?
Convenient public transport is only viable when you have a high population density. As a bonus, when you have an extremely high population density, personal vehicles become LESS convenient. As such, Tokyo, which probably has a higher population density than any city on earth, is perfectly suited for such a system. New York City is also a good place to put an extensive public transportation network. Middle-of-nowhere Idaho, on the other hand, would not be. The US, like Canada, is large enough that a nation wide public transportation network is totally impractical. And even in large cities, where public transportation could possibly provide a good alternative, you have the problem of urban sprawl to contend with.
"2) He lied about the ease of buying weapons and ammunition in Canada."
That's from Bowling for columbine. Others from the same movie:
The shooting at the school in michigan: he tries to make the (child) shooter look innocent, and says "No one knew why the little boy wanted to shoot the little girl". In fact, the same kid had already been suspended for stabbing a classmate with a pencil, and had fought with the same girl the day before. Since then, he has stabbed another kid, this time with a knife.
He also says that the US gave about $250 million to Taliban ruled Afghanistan, and suggests that this money was for military aid. In reality, the money was given through the UN and NGO's, and was for famine relief.
And so on, and so forth. The only defence ever offered for Moore's behaviour is along the lines of "well, ok, but the underlying message is true!". I shouldn't need to point out why this line of argument is idiotic.
Make no mistake about it, ALL of his movies and books contain dozens of these "errors". I'm not going to get into documenting all of them here; if you're really interested, google can help you find a whackload more. The important thing is that judging by every piece of work I've seen him produce, he's not only a sloppy researcher but is quite often intentionally dishonest. This should be clear to any semi-intelligent person who isn't blinded by his or her political ideology.