I am not powerless over the cemical reactions in my head. In fact, as a self aware being, I am in control of much of them, conciously or not. Drinking alchohol is a habit like any other. And perhaps I did plan on getting caught? maby I needed a catalyst to give my life momentum? perhaps so perhaps not, regaurdless in hindsight I could think of many other things that would have worked...
ANYHOW, sir unlike yourself (sorry to make allusions but it seem's to be the case:) I am not powerless over alchohol, cocaine, extacy, LSD, mushrooms, AMT, Salvia, Weed, Opiates, or any other drug I have done in my lifetime; I drink from the cup of life untill I am satiated. By fearing alchohol you give it power over you; just like the boogie man to a child. Besides, why would I want to take advice from a person who believes in killing babies with ADS?
Charels County Maryland has a policy where judges issue sentences requiring individuals to attend AA meetings as part of sentance reduction. When faced with a prolonged time in jail or AA meetings, you might as well say 'forced' if not coarced(sp?).
In addition, any lawyer in small town courts will advise you to have an AA sponcer by the time you get to court, as Judges like to see it.
I have no problem sending people to secular, psychologically developed state run mental health and substance abuse clinics. I think those are a good thing. Education is the forbidden apple that we must consume.
But my freedom of Religion and my freedom of independent thought says they can NOT force me to attend cult meetings.
AA is cultish... I know becase I am being sort of forced to join it by law...
Talk about a gross violation of my rights... but anyway on to why AA is garbage:
First off the whole program is about submission, much like a lot of cults. The first "step" basically involves saying that you are weak and powerless. The proceeding steps are all about identifying how weak and powerless you are. It is effectively the same as listing too A Perfect Circles 13th step album over and over and over. Ok, so the tenants of the faith are all about submission to a "higher power" which they go at great length to identify as not god in their books, but go to an actual meeting and you will get a much diffrent opinion. Now that we have identified that their writings and commandments are about submission and weakness of the individual, where do we go from here? The idea is that the 'strength' of the other powerless people will help you. They go about this by getting into meetings and talking about how shitty there lives where befor, and how now there lives are better becase there in the ex drinkers club. Not all meetings follow this format but most do; One of the alchoholics assumes the role of speaker and will just talk about whatever they feel like, and usualy work in how AA rescued them. Most of the meetings I have been in they basicaly drone on about all the mucked up and groady things they have done and how now their absolved of those things for being in AA (but its clear in there tone they don't believe it).
AA is cult like in how new mebers are attacked by current mebers to become one of them, and soon as possible one will try to become your 'sponcer'. The sponcer is supposed to be your guide and mentor during your 'recovery' process. While I havent brought my self to getting one of these pests, my friend did and this was his experience: a 40 year old man who had been sober for 15 years would call him at random hours in the night and tell him how bad he wanted to have a drink, and then proceed to ask my friend if he also felt that way. Can anyone say pathetic?
Now, there are some good things about AA. For people who truly are weak and powerless, they should join an organization such as this. People who can't think for themselves need some one to do it for them. But for anyone who has willpower and SOME self control, do NOT even go.
They will try and brain wash you. trust me, go read "A battle for your mind" then go to a rehab or an AA meeting or church for that matter.
What effectivly happens, is this constant discussion of drinking makes the person want to drink more! We all know repetition is how the brain learns. by constantly pounding the thoughts of how 'i love alchohol' into your head it just makes sence that soon you will be showing that. Now, for some it does stop them from drinking, but the price is a NEW acciction: The AA cult. you also find people who enter AA joining other 12steps for other reasons.
If this isn't enough I challenge you to GO to an AA meeting and see how weak and pathetic a lot of these people look. Now I don't want to come of to elitest, I know many of those people are sucessful, self actualized and smarter than myself; the bulk of them on the other hand, are not.
And finnaly, Its a free country. if you want to be addicted to alchohol, feel free. If you want to spend your whole life playing games, be my guest! this life and this world is yours, do whatever you want. Now if you feel like your stuck doing somthing then by all means, seek help, but the answer lies within yourself, no outside source can make you behave diffrently unless you want them too. (now, whoever YOU actually is its own matter of debate...)
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I am not powerless over the cemical reactions in my head. In fact, as a self aware being, I am in control of much of them, conciously or not. Drinking alchohol is a habit like any other. And perhaps I did plan on getting caught? maby I needed a catalyst to give my life momentum? perhaps so perhaps not, regaurdless in hindsight I could think of many other things that would have worked... ANYHOW, sir unlike yourself (sorry to make allusions but it seem's to be the case:) I am not powerless over alchohol, cocaine, extacy, LSD, mushrooms, AMT, Salvia, Weed, Opiates, or any other drug I have done in my lifetime; I drink from the cup of life untill I am satiated. By fearing alchohol you give it power over you; just like the boogie man to a child. Besides, why would I want to take advice from a person who believes in killing babies with ADS?
Charels County Maryland has a policy where judges issue sentences requiring individuals to attend AA meetings as part of sentance reduction. When faced with a prolonged time in jail or AA meetings, you might as well say 'forced' if not coarced(sp?).
In addition, any lawyer in small town courts will advise you to have an AA sponcer by the time you get to court, as Judges like to see it.
I have no problem sending people to secular, psychologically developed state run mental health and substance abuse clinics. I think those are a good thing. Education is the forbidden apple that we must consume.
But my freedom of Religion and my freedom of independent thought says they can NOT force me to attend cult meetings.
AA is cultish... I know becase I am being sort of forced to join it by law... Talk about a gross violation of my rights... but anyway on to why AA is garbage: First off the whole program is about submission, much like a lot of cults. The first "step" basically involves saying that you are weak and powerless. The proceeding steps are all about identifying how weak and powerless you are. It is effectively the same as listing too A Perfect Circles 13th step album over and over and over. Ok, so the tenants of the faith are all about submission to a "higher power" which they go at great length to identify as not god in their books, but go to an actual meeting and you will get a much diffrent opinion. Now that we have identified that their writings and commandments are about submission and weakness of the individual, where do we go from here? The idea is that the 'strength' of the other powerless people will help you. They go about this by getting into meetings and talking about how shitty there lives where befor, and how now there lives are better becase there in the ex drinkers club. Not all meetings follow this format but most do; One of the alchoholics assumes the role of speaker and will just talk about whatever they feel like, and usualy work in how AA rescued them. Most of the meetings I have been in they basicaly drone on about all the mucked up and groady things they have done and how now their absolved of those things for being in AA (but its clear in there tone they don't believe it). AA is cult like in how new mebers are attacked by current mebers to become one of them, and soon as possible one will try to become your 'sponcer'. The sponcer is supposed to be your guide and mentor during your 'recovery' process. While I havent brought my self to getting one of these pests, my friend did and this was his experience: a 40 year old man who had been sober for 15 years would call him at random hours in the night and tell him how bad he wanted to have a drink, and then proceed to ask my friend if he also felt that way. Can anyone say pathetic? Now, there are some good things about AA. For people who truly are weak and powerless, they should join an organization such as this. People who can't think for themselves need some one to do it for them. But for anyone who has willpower and SOME self control, do NOT even go. They will try and brain wash you. trust me, go read "A battle for your mind" then go to a rehab or an AA meeting or church for that matter. What effectivly happens, is this constant discussion of drinking makes the person want to drink more! We all know repetition is how the brain learns. by constantly pounding the thoughts of how 'i love alchohol' into your head it just makes sence that soon you will be showing that. Now, for some it does stop them from drinking, but the price is a NEW acciction: The AA cult. you also find people who enter AA joining other 12steps for other reasons. If this isn't enough I challenge you to GO to an AA meeting and see how weak and pathetic a lot of these people look. Now I don't want to come of to elitest, I know many of those people are sucessful, self actualized and smarter than myself; the bulk of them on the other hand, are not. And finnaly, Its a free country. if you want to be addicted to alchohol, feel free. If you want to spend your whole life playing games, be my guest! this life and this world is yours, do whatever you want. Now if you feel like your stuck doing somthing then by all means, seek help, but the answer lies within yourself, no outside source can make you behave diffrently unless you want them too. (now, whoever YOU actually is its own matter of debate...)