I ran my Nexus 4 with 2GB RAM until about a month ago, never once experienced an issue. I upgraded software the same day I received notifications and always ran the latest android on it.
What the heck are people doing with phones that 2GB isn't enough? I regularly close apps when I am not using them, though.
Back in August, I was considering an upgrade from my LG Nexus 4. I was looking at a few phones and was told by friends to wait and see what the next line of Nexus devices had to offer. I had been watching rumours and I was curious to see what was to become of the Nexus 5.
I caught a good deal on a Motorola X Play (not available in the US) so I took advantage of it at the end of August.
Looking at these specs, I'm actually glad I didn't wait. The Moto X Play has turned out to be a great phone, and the new Nexus 5 appears to be more expensive for less (smaller battery, lower res camera, no SD slot, and I have no use for a fingerprint reader). While the Nexus 5X has faster processor and GPU I really don't think it would make much difference, and I do not play video games so I don't see the need for it.
The only thing I think would have been nice was having it unlocked from the factory... but that really doesn't matter as unlock codes are easy to come by.
Well this is how I did it. The system was running Win 8. Not 8.1. In fact it had arouns 180 updates ready to install. Every time I attempted to install them, something would fail and it would roll back all of the updates.
As another user just mentioned, apparently the URL I gave will redirect you to the media creation tool if viewed on a windows system.
2) Burn ISO to DVD (optional? I downloaded and burned from my Linux system)
3) Insert DVD into a running Win 8 system, run via autoplay or browse the DVD filesystem and execute setup.exe
4) Navigate through the prompts and let it do its thing.
There is an option in the UI to do a "clean" install, where you lose your files and applications. I went this route as the laptop in question had never been cleaned up, and all important files was already backed up.
If the fanatics like the Anonymous Coward that started this thread ever have any sway in decision making of open technologies, we won't have that choice. At least, not the convenience we have now.
While I don't play video games, I do use some commercial software (Adobe Photoshop, mostly). This mindset that EVERYTHING must be open and free will destroy the current balance we have now.
For example: I welcome the DRM system in Firefox. I find services like Netflix to be useful. Being able to utilize it on Firefox, on top of a Linux system is useful to me. I would rather that than Pipelight, being forced to install Google Chrome, or having to use Windows.
As it stands, I use a sandboxed Google Chrome for Netflix on Linux. It is not ideal, as I'm not fond of Chrome, but it is better than the alternatives. If adding DRM support into Firefox means I get Netflix without the run-around then I feel we have progressed forward.
Unfortunately the zealots are "fighting back," claiming that by adding DRM support to the browser that it will kill the free and open internet.
I, personally, disagree as more commercial content providers will utilize it over time, thereby providing easier access to users like me. The less hoops I need to jump through, the better.
The goal is not to have an open system. Your goal may be, but for the vast majority it is not.
An open system, to me, means choice, as the parent poster said. If I CHOOSE to run a walled garden game distribution software on my system, that is MY DECISION.
There are many open alternatives to many, many softwares. Which one you choose is no business or concern of the Linux Foundation.
Personally I am using Funtoo, but same thing in many ways.
If you don't like the package management system of a particular distro, use something else. Choice is great. That is specifically why I use funtoo, I can choose things in such a finely granulated way it is almost mind boggling.
Gentoo/Funtoo works great for me in various systems (laptop, workstation, htpc).
For my HTPC I actually build it in a chroot on my workstation, and rsync/cp the useful parts to the device. Full blown media center in ~3GB on a fast, small SSD. Try doing that with Ubuntu.
You clearly haven't run an email server in the past few years.
You are now required to utilize reverse (PTR) records on your IPs, DKIM and SPF records, run inbound and outbound SPAM filters.
Blacklists kill businesses. It is frustratingly time consuming to have to deal with getting an email from an executive with a "Fwd: Message failure, return to sender" in the subject.
Then, as an IT admin, you have to go and hunt down how to get your IP off that blacklist. Some are easier than others, some require faxing in a signed statement of what you as an admin have done to prevent the problem in the future.
Sometimes you get on blacklists because your datacenter provider has their whole/20 subnet blocked by Google or AOL because of one hacked wordpress site somewhere else in the datacenter.
Oh, but running my own from the office will solve all of that! Big fat NOPE.
Running one from your own office requires all of the above, plus segregating your email server from the rest of your internal network. Not to mention you'll need permission from your ISP because they'll need to unblock sending email from your IP(s). What happens if your email server stops responding in the middle of the night? Will you drive 2 hours to the office at 3AM to go deal with it?
$5/mo/account for Google Apps sounds really appealing all of a sudden.
DD-WRT works, it just isn't very clean under the hood.
- The entire interface is a mess of PHP spaghetti code with intertwined HTML - Old code with poorly implemented features bolted on - outdated UI that is honestly a little confusing to navigate - poorly documented, and outdated documentation I will say the user community is huge and that is one major benefit.
OpenWrt is more like a Linux based router OS, but is well organized internally, incredibly stable, and very flexible. By default it typically does not have a UI. There are a few different ones to choose from.
The original Tomato is actually a partially closed system. I should have been clear that I meant Tomato based firmwares such as the Toastman mod, Tomato Shibby, etc. which are based on TomatoUSB, an early fork of Tomato before it went commercial.
Personally I am not a fan of ISP provided gateways/routers for three reasons: - ISP can modify settings at will, quite literally their own back door into your network - software cannot be upgraded or fully configured by myself - usually of poor hardware quality, with 100M ports, poor wireless range, etc
With proper optimization (CPU frequency scaling, etc) the power usage really isn't much. I regularly check my CPU power usage (via lm_sensors), and when idle it hovers around 30W (with CPU frequency scaling). I'm not sure how much more the rest of the system uses as I'm unable to measure it through software. I've often considered purchasing a power meter, perhaps I will. I suspect it is less than 100W when it's sitting idle.
I keep my desktop system running 24/7 for various cron jobs running automated tasks that I rely on.
I realized everyone was talking about suspend, and not hibernate after I posted my comment. My apologies.
I chose smaller, faster SSDs over larger, slower SSDs.
I also have 8GB+ RAM in each machine. During regular use I rarely utilize more than 2GB.
Fast SSDs and an optimized system means my computer boots from cold boot to full UI in less than 10 seconds. Honestly probably faster. I should time itm
Not that it really matters, but I either drive or walk everywhere. I live in a small town of 35,000 people in the middle of the Canadian prairies. If its too cold to walk, or too far, we drive. Our public transit shuts down at 6:00pm, and taxi's are more expensive than gas and car insurance.
With a cold boot to full UI in under 10 seconds I really don't see the point.
All of the applications I use record their state somewhere. My window manager remembers what applications I had open, and where they were placed, so the next time I log in its all put back to where it was (I use XFCE). As long as I save up any important work (but don't close it) and shut down, it will all be brought back up to (mostly) the same state as when I shut down. Firefox asks if I want to restore tabs, but that is a minor inconvenience.
If my system is already intelligent enough to do all of this, why do I need suspend/hibernate?
I've never bothered with suspend for a few reasons: 1) It requires a swap disk/space - I don't have one on any of my personal machines 2) SSDs make boot up fast from a clean slate every time 3) I hear it can be iffy, and can be tough to make work anyway
I just leave my desktop running all the time, and turn my laptop off if I know I'm not going to need it. If for whatever reason I am going back and forth to my laptop with reasonably short intervals between use (1-2 hours), I just close the lid and plug it in.
To save power I use CPU frequency scaling. When my desktop is sitting idle, the CPU usually only sucks back about ~25W. Unsure about the rest of the components, though.
Slashdot at part of that post. See below for clarification:
Depending on the application, I use <a> tags styled like <button> tags. I set the href to the target page, and in the onclick trigger I reference this.href as the target that I pass to the modal to POST to. This makes failover simple when javascript is disabled. There is also a simple server-side validation method I use to ensure there are no easy ways to inject dangerous POST requests.
I agree. I develop mostly intranet type web based applications and always recommend firefox to my clients. I code to standards, so any modern browser that respects those standards can use the application as expected.
When creating Delete controls (or any control that modifies something), I typically use a javascript based modal window to display a confirmation box that will POST to the target. If the user doesn't have javascript installed, it will load the target via GET request where I can then display the confirmation, requiring the POST to the target before actually processing the request.
Depending on the application, I use tags styled like tags. I set the href to the target page, and in the onclick trigger I reference this.href as the target that I pass to the modal to POST to. This makes failover simple when javascript is disabled. There is also a simple server-side validation method I use to ensure there are no easy ways to inject dangerous POST requests.
This should be standard practice, but some developers are lazy.
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I don't understand the RAM argument.
I ran my Nexus 4 with 2GB RAM until about a month ago, never once experienced an issue. I upgraded software the same day I received notifications and always ran the latest android on it.
What the heck are people doing with phones that 2GB isn't enough? I regularly close apps when I am not using them, though.
Back in August, I was considering an upgrade from my LG Nexus 4. I was looking at a few phones and was told by friends to wait and see what the next line of Nexus devices had to offer. I had been watching rumours and I was curious to see what was to become of the Nexus 5.
I caught a good deal on a Motorola X Play (not available in the US) so I took advantage of it at the end of August.
Looking at these specs, I'm actually glad I didn't wait. The Moto X Play has turned out to be a great phone, and the new Nexus 5 appears to be more expensive for less (smaller battery, lower res camera, no SD slot, and I have no use for a fingerprint reader). While the Nexus 5X has faster processor and GPU I really don't think it would make much difference, and I do not play video games so I don't see the need for it.
The only thing I think would have been nice was having it unlocked from the factory... but that really doesn't matter as unlock codes are easy to come by.
Well this is how I did it. The system was running Win 8. Not 8.1. In fact it had arouns 180 updates ready to install. Every time I attempted to install them, something would fail and it would roll back all of the updates.
As another user just mentioned, apparently the URL I gave will redirect you to the media creation tool if viewed on a windows system.
Just yesterday I did this for a friend on Win 8 (not 8.1). This is how I did it:
1) Download ISO from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca...
2) Burn ISO to DVD (optional? I downloaded and burned from my Linux system)
3) Insert DVD into a running Win 8 system, run via autoplay or browse the DVD filesystem and execute setup.exe
4) Navigate through the prompts and let it do its thing.
There is an option in the UI to do a "clean" install, where you lose your files and applications. I went this route as the laptop in question had never been cleaned up, and all important files was already backed up.
Hope this helps someone.
* I use Linux because I prefer it. Not because I am making a political or philosophical statement.
If the fanatics like the Anonymous Coward that started this thread ever have any sway in decision making of open technologies, we won't have that choice. At least, not the convenience we have now.
While I don't play video games, I do use some commercial software (Adobe Photoshop, mostly). This mindset that EVERYTHING must be open and free will destroy the current balance we have now.
For example: I welcome the DRM system in Firefox. I find services like Netflix to be useful. Being able to utilize it on Firefox, on top of a Linux system is useful to me. I would rather that than Pipelight, being forced to install Google Chrome, or having to use Windows.
As it stands, I use a sandboxed Google Chrome for Netflix on Linux. It is not ideal, as I'm not fond of Chrome, but it is better than the alternatives. If adding DRM support into Firefox means I get Netflix without the run-around then I feel we have progressed forward.
Unfortunately the zealots are "fighting back," claiming that by adding DRM support to the browser that it will kill the free and open internet.
I, personally, disagree as more commercial content providers will utilize it over time, thereby providing easier access to users like me. The less hoops I need to jump through, the better.
I use Linux because I prefer it, not becausen
I disagree.
The goal is not to have an open system. Your goal may be, but for the vast majority it is not.
An open system, to me, means choice, as the parent poster said. If I CHOOSE to run a walled garden game distribution software on my system, that is MY DECISION.
There are many open alternatives to many, many softwares. Which one you choose is no business or concern of the Linux Foundation.
Agreed.
Personally I am using Funtoo, but same thing in many ways.
If you don't like the package management system of a particular distro, use something else. Choice is great. That is specifically why I use funtoo, I can choose things in such a finely granulated way it is almost mind boggling.
Gentoo/Funtoo works great for me in various systems (laptop, workstation, htpc).
For my HTPC I actually build it in a chroot on my workstation, and rsync/cp the useful parts to the device. Full blown media center in ~3GB on a fast, small SSD. Try doing that with Ubuntu.
*walks away laughing maniacally*
You clearly haven't run an email server in the past few years.
You are now required to utilize reverse (PTR) records on your IPs, DKIM and SPF records, run inbound and outbound SPAM filters.
Blacklists kill businesses. It is frustratingly time consuming to have to deal with getting an email from an executive with a "Fwd: Message failure, return to sender" in the subject.
Then, as an IT admin, you have to go and hunt down how to get your IP off that blacklist. Some are easier than others, some require faxing in a signed statement of what you as an admin have done to prevent the problem in the future.
Sometimes you get on blacklists because your datacenter provider has their whole /20 subnet blocked by Google or AOL because of one hacked wordpress site somewhere else in the datacenter.
Oh, but running my own from the office will solve all of that! Big fat NOPE.
Running one from your own office requires all of the above, plus segregating your email server from the rest of your internal network. Not to mention you'll need permission from your ISP because they'll need to unblock sending email from your IP(s). What happens if your email server stops responding in the middle of the night? Will you drive 2 hours to the office at 3AM to go deal with it?
$5/mo/account for Google Apps sounds really appealing all of a sudden.
(Source: I own a web hosting company)
The Model X is an AWD SUV. IIRC it is being released early next year.
DD-WRT works, it just isn't very clean under the hood.
- The entire interface is a mess of PHP spaghetti code with intertwined HTML
- Old code with poorly implemented features bolted on
- outdated UI that is honestly a little confusing to navigate
- poorly documented, and outdated documentation
I will say the user community is huge and that is one major benefit.
OpenWrt is more like a Linux based router OS, but is well organized internally, incredibly stable, and very flexible. By default it typically does not have a UI. There are a few different ones to choose from.
The original Tomato is actually a partially closed system. I should have been clear that I meant Tomato based firmwares such as the Toastman mod, Tomato Shibby, etc. which are based on TomatoUSB, an early fork of Tomato before it went commercial.
Personally I am not a fan of ISP provided gateways/routers for three reasons:
- ISP can modify settings at will, quite literally their own back door into your network
- software cannot be upgraded or fully configured by myself
- usually of poor hardware quality, with 100M ports, poor wireless range, etc
DD-WRT is a disaster compared to OpenWRT. But probably still better than the stock firmware.
I would recommend Tomato over DD-WRT if you can.
Apparently its built with Gentoo Linux.
I'm not sure how locked down this thing will be, but I am sure we'll be able to hack/mod it.
Is this still true for modern kernels, though?
I'm running 4.1.5
With proper optimization (CPU frequency scaling, etc) the power usage really isn't much. I regularly check my CPU power usage (via lm_sensors), and when idle it hovers around 30W (with CPU frequency scaling). I'm not sure how much more the rest of the system uses as I'm unable to measure it through software. I've often considered purchasing a power meter, perhaps I will. I suspect it is less than 100W when it's sitting idle.
I keep my desktop system running 24/7 for various cron jobs running automated tasks that I rely on.
I still fail to see the benefit for my usage. If I need more RAM, I will buy more RAM.
Mentioned this in other comments:
I realized everyone was talking about suspend, and not hibernate after I posted my comment. My apologies.
I chose smaller, faster SSDs over larger, slower SSDs.
I also have 8GB+ RAM in each machine. During regular use I rarely utilize more than 2GB.
Fast SSDs and an optimized system means my computer boots from cold boot to full UI in less than 10 seconds. Honestly probably faster. I should time itm
I chose smaller, faster SSDs over larger, slower SSDs. 64GB in my laptop.
I have 8GB+ in all of my personal machines. I regular use I rarely utilize 2GB.
No need for swap if you have a reasonable amount of RAM.
Not that it really matters, but I either drive or walk everywhere. I live in a small town of 35,000 people in the middle of the Canadian prairies. If its too cold to walk, or too far, we drive. Our public transit shuts down at 6:00pm, and taxi's are more expensive than gas and car insurance.
With a cold boot to full UI in under 10 seconds I really don't see the point.
All of the applications I use record their state somewhere. My window manager remembers what applications I had open, and where they were placed, so the next time I log in its all put back to where it was (I use XFCE). As long as I save up any important work (but don't close it) and shut down, it will all be brought back up to (mostly) the same state as when I shut down. Firefox asks if I want to restore tabs, but that is a minor inconvenience.
If my system is already intelligent enough to do all of this, why do I need suspend/hibernate?
I realized this after I posted, I had thought we were talking about hibernate.
My apologies.
I'd still rather just boot from a clean state.
I've never bothered with suspend for a few reasons:
1) It requires a swap disk/space - I don't have one on any of my personal machines
2) SSDs make boot up fast from a clean slate every time
3) I hear it can be iffy, and can be tough to make work anyway
I just leave my desktop running all the time, and turn my laptop off if I know I'm not going to need it. If for whatever reason I am going back and forth to my laptop with reasonably short intervals between use (1-2 hours), I just close the lid and plug it in.
To save power I use CPU frequency scaling. When my desktop is sitting idle, the CPU usually only sucks back about ~25W. Unsure about the rest of the components, though.
Slashdot at part of that post. See below for clarification:
Depending on the application, I use <a> tags styled like <button> tags. I set the href to the target page, and in the onclick trigger I reference this.href as the target that I pass to the modal to POST to. This makes failover simple when javascript is disabled. There is also a simple server-side validation method I use to ensure there are no easy ways to inject dangerous POST requests.
I agree. I develop mostly intranet type web based applications and always recommend firefox to my clients. I code to standards, so any modern browser that respects those standards can use the application as expected.
When creating Delete controls (or any control that modifies something), I typically use a javascript based modal window to display a confirmation box that will POST to the target. If the user doesn't have javascript installed, it will load the target via GET request where I can then display the confirmation, requiring the POST to the target before actually processing the request.
Depending on the application, I use tags styled like tags. I set the href to the target page, and in the onclick trigger I reference this.href as the target that I pass to the modal to POST to. This makes failover simple when javascript is disabled. There is also a simple server-side validation method I use to ensure there are no easy ways to inject dangerous POST requests.
This should be standard practice, but some developers are lazy.
In regards to Thunderbyte, they were acquired by Norman ASA (www.norman.com). In 2014, Norman ASA was acquired by AVG.