Google Shows Off 2 New Nexus Phones, a New Pixel, and More
Two of the products officially unveiled at Google's much-anticipated (at least much-hyped) release announcement were widely and correctly predicted: a pair of new Nexus phones. The flagship is the all-metal Huawei 6P, with a 5.7" AMOLED display (2,560x1,440), 3GB of RAM, and a Snapdragon 810 chip. The Huawei overshadows the nonetheless respectable second offering, the LG-made Nexus 5X, which makes concessions in the form of less RAM (2GB instead of the 6P's 3), smaller battery (2700mAh, instead of 3450) and a lesser Snapdragon chip inside (808, rather than 810). Both phones, though, come with USB-C and with a big upgrade for a line of phones not generally praised for its cameras: a large-pixel 12.3-megapixel Sony camera sensor. Much less predicted: Google announced a new bearer for the Pixel name, after its line of high-end Chromebooks; today's entrant is a tablet, not running Chrome, and it's running Android rather than Chrome OS. The Pixel C tablet will debut sometime later this year; google touts it as "the first Android tablet built end-to-end by Google." Also on the agenda today, news that Android 6 will start hitting Nexus devices next week.
There are both good and bad things about the new Nexus 5X.
Good things: improved CPU/GPU, good camera (but no OIS, although they say they can't because it's 1.55um pixels), good battery, fingerprint reader, USB type-C.
Okay things: similar screen, same amount of RAM, same amount of storage (I assume hatred for 16gb), no SD storage as before.
Negative things: no OIS (as above), no wireless charging (a deal breaker, for many).
Overall seems like a pretty decent device given the price, but there is room they could have improved.
I'm disappointed by the lack of wireless charging on both the 5X and 6P. Sure, wired USB-C charging may be faster that wireless and the omnidirectional connector is more convenient than Micro-USB, but still, I like being able to drop the phone on my nightstand in the dark without fumbling for cables.
I think I'll wait to see how badly this does on my older Nexus 7.
My experience is Google might want to push it to me, but that the device stands a pretty good chance of being rendered useless with an update which is either badly tested or too damned slow.
Besides, day 1 updates are for suckers who don't realize they get to be the beta testers and find all the problems.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
The 5X looks ok, I guess, and the price is right. They just couldn't help themselves and made it substantially bigger than the Nexus 5. I suppose all electronic devices must eventually evolve into phablets.
And for that cadre of haters that hate the word plablet; the Nexus 6P phablet is just as bad a phablet as the Nexus 6 phablet. Phablet phablet phablet.
It would have been much better going Chrome instead of Android. Blown-up phone apps are horrendous on Android tablets. Why would a keyboard cost so much? With all these new keyboard, pen attachments with Tablets, I think MS was on right track on Surface (not the pro). But was executed as usual badly.
"Incorporating a unibody build, it doesn't look like you'll be able to remove the back cover or battery"
Stopped reading right there - do not want.
Battery life and good design are more valuable to the majority of users.
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LG G3s are going for much less money these days, both used and new. They are at the end of their store-shelf life and that's the best time to buy them because the stores and carriers are throwing money a you to buy them.
About the only thing the 5P has on the G3 is the processor but honestly, the processor in my N5 is good enough for me. I don't game or compute PI or do theoretical physics on it. Just about everything else on the G3 is better than the 5P, most notably the 128GB SD card slot. As much as I love the Nexus line, I'm really coming to hate that lack of SD card slot.
So what if the 5P has USB-C. There's nothing about my N5's USB that leaves me wanting.
Wait what, Nexus 5X can only have 16 or 32 GB of internal storage? Come on, you could have went to at least 64 GB on the smaller phone.
I don't get why people are so enamored with "wireless" charging.
I put that in scare-quotes because the wireless charging pads all have cords. So instead of just a cord, you have a cord and a pad...
The Apple Watch has wireless charging and I don't find it any handier than using a cable. It can look cleaner but I don't see that it really gets you much.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
No microSD, no thanks. You'd think Google would have gotten the memo by now.
I'm all over the $35.00 Chromecast audio dongles as I've got plenty of good speakers lying around. Would have been nice if they could be battery powered... we'll see how long one lasts on the usb charging port of the Klipsch KMC1. Even so.... we can now get synchronized, multi-room sound at a far more affordable price than a Sonos system.
Google started of well with the Nexus 5 a few years back, as a cheap good enough alternative, but then screwed up with inconsistent updates and inconsistent pricing.
Look at Nexus 6 pricing history. Started off with a price close to iPhone and quickly went down to almost half of that.
Add to this the happy privacy violator, stupidly slow, java based OS, and I don't see why anybody would want to go with them.
I'm assuming since this article mentions nothing about either, that these phones are still actually pieces of shit. It doesn't matter what the specs are without these two features.
Wow, I must have really touched off a nerve there. Don't like being proven wrong over and over again? Perhaps you should improve yourself than instead of attacking the messenger.
When you have something useful to say instead of ad hominem attacks and repeatedly posting the same thing which is false, let me know.
Yes, you need admin privs to access the hosts file. That is because YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT.
Enjoy your ass being handed to you yet again. Thank you for your time.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
It seems Google is ignoring those people who don't want a HUGE phone. The two models should have been the giant screened phone, and a smaller phone for those who like to actually be able to climb stairs with it in their pocket.
Hi Google, I have been using Nexus 5 since Nov-15. However, no OIS means I am skipping these two phones. See you next year unless I get tempted by the dark side.
How many security pros in apk's post say hosts files are good security Coren22? Real ones, not wannabes like you.
Even though it's wildly off-topic, I guess I'm wondering why you would bother with a host file on each machine versus something at your router - just null-route the shit you would usually put in your host file and be done with it for the whole network at once.
But I guess maintaining a hosts file on hundreds of machines gives you something to do besides AC stalk people on Slashdot?
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
So very cute seeing you trying to claim that I am
"THE GREATEST COMPUTER SECURITY GUY (lol, NOT) on earth"
, something I have never claimed to be. But it is adorable to see you agreeing with yourself over and over again. Sockpuppeting as an AC just really makes my point for me.
I have not contradicted myself, and if you would go back and reread your posts, you would realize I simply stopped responding, which is not the same thing as you being right, no matter how often you claim it to be.
So, how does your hosts file prevent its user from being MiTM attacked by you yourself? Are we as users supposed to go through your 11 mb (according to you) hosts file to make sure you didn't put in an entry for Bank of America or some other banking site that points to your personal server? Or are you claiming we should just trust you?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
It is convenient not having to carry cables around with you.
I totally agree - which is still why I think cables are better.
In order not to have to carry around cables, I have charging cables set up at home, in the car, and at work...
If those were three charging pads I'd be spending more than I am with cables! For any place you might put a charging pad, there is very little difference to me between putting in a pad and a permanent cable - except the pad is more expensive. It doesn't even look better because wires are still running to hit, though there is some furniture that attempts to artfully hide that. But there is far cables also...
If I do need to carry a cable just in case, cables are much less bulky than even small charging pads.
I have to admit though none of that matters much because I have a large phone now and never really need to charge it during the day.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Coren22 then you've got no business trying him. He's got pros in computer security recommending his ware and technique. You've stalked apk for months on hosts, we all have seen it here on slashdot, and you lose badly every single time. Call me sock puppet all you like but you have failed. Saying admin privelege use is bad yet you use it yourself is hypocritically contradicting yourself Coren22. Many wares require it. Security ones do too.
The Pixel C is almost exactly the A5 ISO paper size. The display is 2560x1800 at 308ppi, and the speaker even mentions the sqrt(2) aspect ratio, so this isn't likely to be a coincidence. Another attractive device, following the 3:2 (2560x1700) Pixel. It is unfortunate that more manufacturers don't follow suit and insist on using TV resolutions.
Sadly, the usual complaints apply: no pen/digitizer, and pitiful storage options. Also disappointing is the still missing nexus7, which was a very nice device at reasonable price point. An A6 replacement for the 16:10 nexus7 would be welcome. The size would be only a bit larger, but with a better aspect ratio for print or web pages.
So in other words you have no response to what I said. Good to hear.
I have not contradicted myself, and if you would go back and reread your posts, you would realize I simply stopped responding, which is not the same thing as you being right, no matter how often you claim it to be.
So, how does your hosts file prevent its user from being MiTM attacked by you yourself? Are we as users supposed to go through your 11 mb (according to you) hosts file to make sure you didn't put in an entry for Bank of America or some other banking site that points to your personal server? Or are you claiming we should just trust you?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
"What I have done is secure numerous systems on the internet" -by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @01:44PM (#50584363)
Yea? Prove it!
See - I can EASILY via a security guide I was PAID FOR that 1,000's used -> http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...
As well as a ware that DID SO WELL, hpHosts' MalwareBytes (best in the antimalware business) HAD TO MOVE TO AMAZON "UnDDoS'able" servers the demand for it and its data demanded it...
So, bigshot blowhard:
HOW ABOUT YOU? You've done MORE, BETTER, & EARLIER in computer security than I have?? PROVE IT!
Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on you, doing a "Cardinal Richelieu" ON YOU, asswipe... publicly humiliating your sorry bullshitting ass.
APK
P.S.=> Lastly: Did you also say THESE THINGS, "Mr. I AM THE GREATEST SECURITY GURU ALIVE" (lol, not - far from it, considering you're a BY ROTE FUCKING MENIAL @ BEST that can't think for himself OR create decent wares in computer security as I have, OR even write a GOOD GUIDE FOR IT that got you PAID (you merely recite the practices of others @ most/best)):
"You have ZERO security chops, and it shows" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @01:44PM (#50584363)
Oh, really? IF I have ZERO?? You, clearly, HAVE LESS THEN ZERO & you ARE less than zero!
Hey - see above, blowhard bigmouth with NOTHING TO HIS NAME in the field of security but a LOT OF HOT-AIR!
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"it is funny how little you know of security APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @01:44PM (#50584363)
Well, again - see above: YOU'VE DONE MORE, BETTER, & EARLIER IN SECURITY THAN I HAVE?
Again, prove it...
(We ALL KNOW you can't, blowhard troll weasel that you are - you fucking do nothing wannabe scumbag punk)... apk
I recommended a DNS zone file, but to APK it is far easier to load a hosts file across a domain.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
My 1st line is your answer dolt -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... IF I understood you correctly (do YOU even understand what you're asking?)
* See, again: I asked you to clarify that before & YOU RAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Since you're NOW "down to that alone" after I SMOKED YOU on all your other "by rote menial bs" (which is clearly all you know in security), especially since I used real security pros backing me?
Time to FINISH YOU OFF, you little shitweasel.
APK
P.S.=> See, Coren22 - editing a hosts = CAKE for *ANY* user (or admin if the user doesn't have rights), you loser - TRY THAT with a DNS rules list, firewall table, OR especially "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" regex for them!
(AND, not that mine'd have fuckups in it since my sources have removals lists they update too - since the source data's SOLID from reputable security community sites for hosts data for protection online (PLUS, my program's built-in whitelist protects things like search engines, antivirus + security ware sites & such, etc.)) - you LOSE again, fool... as always, lol... apk
See my subject line above for starters. DNS rules = harder for users to edit themselves by FAR vs. hosts too
DNS uses MORE RESOURCES BY FAR vs. hosts locally & is more complex - especially IF/WHEN setup as a separate machine (electrical power use raises bigtime too) & EVEN as a service/daemon on their single machine.
To add to my subject line:
Open DNS resolvers (not OpenDNS) are HUGELY a problem online as well as ROGUE DNS (which routers themselves have been exploited by too no less).
Tell us about CISCO 2811 routers being exploited lately too, Coren22, lol...
By the way - where'd you suggest that BEFORE now? I'd have EASILY countered it thus as I have now above... let's see it!
Coren22 - ever heard of "layered security"/"defense-in-depth"? Hosts ARE a big part of that & I've got security pros backing me-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
DO YOU? No.
Hosts even LIGHTEN UP remote DNS server loads (admins of them ought to like that, especially considering how often DNS goes "belly up" & they do, quite a LOT!).
APK
P.S.=> According to Coren22, "I know nothing about security" well, this disproves that & puts this bullshitter in his place easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & when I ask he show HE'S DONE more, BETTER, & earlier? We see SQUAT outta him... lol!
... apk
A holster doesn't change the fact that I can't operate it with one handed, or that it looks like I'm holding a tablet to my ear while using it, or won't fit in a small clutch. I'm not wearing a holster with a formal/party dress. I want a phone to communicate when I need to, maybe check the weather, look something up or take a picture, not carry a full on portable computer or tablet. If I need that on a job, I take a tablet or computer with me.
Companies need to get it through their heads that many people have very legitimate reasons why they don't want a massive device. That doesn't mean I don't want the latest OS (don't even get me started on this), or a good camera/screen/processor/storage/memory. I just want it all in a smaller device.
My cell phone has over 2 million pixels. Where do I sign up to get on the waiting list so I can get one more?
See subject: + IF a user doesn't like it? It's VERY EASY to edit & understand for them - TRY THAT with "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" regex for them, lol!
(OR a network admin can do it when users don't have rights)
I also do whitelists in my program that protect things like antivirus/antimalware sites, search engines & other GOOD things (that gets better every build).
My security community sources for hosts also do removals lists vs. falsies that are nigh daily up to date.
* I confronted you with that VERY question as I was laughing @ you, so I could smoke you with it here http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
(Where I had to SHOW YOU HOW TO MIGRATE A PROTECTIVE HOSTS FILE ACROSS AN ENTERPRISE WIDE WAN EVEN & I've done it in my professional career for Fortune 100/500 companies while I acted as both a domain-wide admin + software engineer!)
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One in MYSELF that actually WRITES SECURITY WARES unlike you mind you!
&
1 GOOD ENOUGH to be hosted + RECOMMENDED http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... by very possibly the BEST antimalware company there is http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
Yet YOU called it "APK Hosts file = Unsecure garbage software" here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... CLAIMING I DIDN'T WRITE IT TOO?
You little fucking bullshit artist - I wrote all 30,000 lines of it by hand - so...
TELL US: WHERE'S YOURS, WANNABE "SECURITY GURU"? It's not.
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I was going to save this but why not?
I'll cook YOUR ASS with it right now: To run malwarebytes' own ware YOU HAVE TO USE ADMIN PRIVELEGE STUPID!
(I guess using admin privelege for security is "BAD" according to "security guru" Coren22, lol!)
YOU HAVE PROVEN YOU CANNOT THINK FOR YOURSELF, create WARES FOR SECURITY, or back yourself up either! Your downmods of my posts prove that last part...
APK
P.S.=> LASTLY: REPOSTING DUE TO Coren22 OBVIOUSLY KARMA-FARMING SOCKPUPPET DOWNMODDING THIS LAST TIME I POSTED IT TO TRY TO "HIDE IT" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ... apk
Is there anything new in any of these or is it just that the existing features are better? More memory, longer battery life, faster processor, better camera lens - but other than that it's the same as the last one.
I love my Nexus 5.1 except I really wanted some additional storage and some additional battery life. Otherwise it has been a fantastic phone, best I have ever used. Price was amazing. Great quality. Perfect size. Decent camera. Fast processor. Good signaling.
I have been excited to see what comes next... last year they decided all people suddenly want only large phones (6). Now the next Nexus 5 (5x) comes out and it is 16 or 32GB storage still? Two years later- it is almost 2016 and they offer only 16 or 32??? And same 2GB of memory? That for me is bad enough, but NO WIRELESS CHARGING???? That is a feature I absolutely love and use every day. Are they out of their minds?
Meanwhile the Nexus 6p has 64 and even 128GB storage and 3GB RAM? Why is it there is still this belief by most manufacturers that a smaller phone has to be lobotomized? WHY?
I am INCREDIBLY disappointed :( FAIL.
[user@localhost ~]$ ls -lh /etc/hosts
-rw-r--r-- 2 root root 0 Nov 8 2014 /etc/hosts
Ahhhh, a nice, svelte hosts file, just the way I like it! How about it, APK, you likey??
Wow. It took you 30,000 likes of code to manage your hosts file? Talk about inefficiencies. Jesus you suck.
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
See subject: If you do? You shouldn't have wasted your time as I wasted you easily, lol... see next:
Aryeh Goretsky of NOD32/ESET agrees hosts = good security -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
Oliver Day of SECURITYFOCUS (Symantec Division) does the same -> Resurrecting the Killfile FROM -> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts division does BOTH hosting & recommending my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
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* HOW MANY MORE TIMES & HOW MANY MORE REAL SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUT OF YOU SOME MORE?
(Some of those guys host & recommend my work no less @ MalwareBytes, for security ware no less as well... & I've even taken DOWN one of them who changed a false positive on my ware (NOD32/ESET) - I actually do that & have before that - have you? No... why?? YOU DON'T HAVE THE SKILLS or EXPERIENCE rookie noob!)
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Me? I don't NEED those - they're for MENIALS - I have actual CS to my credit from DEGREES + decades of proefssional experience as both a network admin + software engineer/programmer-analyst... & those allow ME to make the tools that MENIAL FOOLS like you merely USE, user... you're HELPLESS without guys like me!
APK
P.S.=> Tell us, HOW CAN I UPDATE HOSTS INSIDE WINDOWS minus using privelege escalation (which, lol, YOU ADMIT USING YOURSELF, yet YOU SAY IT'S BAD, lmao... & even MalwareBytes Antimalware, best there is, demands you use it... but according to YOU "the wannabe security guru", using privelege escalation is "bad", rotflmao... you utter wannabe fool!)?... apk
See subject & this you rookie noob menial -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
* :)
(That was pretty good, but THIS is far better (lmao) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... since TEARING UP a wannabe NOOB ROOKIE MENIAL like you, for myself? CAKE... too easy, since you're a LIMITED DOLT that only uses what guys like myself in coders CREATE for menials like YOU to use - minus us? YOU ARE HELPLESS!)
APK
P.S.=> Not everyone has a router like MachineShedFred describes, they do conversely & by way of comparison have a hosts file (& hosts consume FAR LESS than DNS does & are far less complex ON ALL LEVELS & hosts files don't have NEARLY the exploits on it NOR do hosts "go down" like DNS does & it does, a LOT)... apk
See subject: Hands on, professionally, & those guides you told me YOU read? You're talking to a writer of one used by 1,000's -> http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
I'm also the coder of a security ware USED BY MILLIONS NOW that does the job BETTER & MORE EFFICIENTLY ON FAR MORE LEVELS than my blatantly inferior slower "so-called 'competition'" yet doing so, WITH LESS RESOURCE CONSUMPTION -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
* HOW ABOUT YOU? You've done BETTER, EARLIER, & MORE THAN THAT?? Answer = NO.
(Heck, you won't even answer the question I asked you here on if YOU have those mere "certs" for menial monkeys (like you, lol) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & face it: Minus guys like ME who create code for menials like YOU to use? YOU ARE HELPLESS... fact!)
APK
P.S.=> Fact: YOU are a rookie noob wannabe menial & "ne'er-do-well" that "talks a BIG GAME" but can't back it up + prove it -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , lol - see ANYONE can "talk" little "ne'er-do-well" but I actually DO what you can ONLY DREAM ABOUT DOING shown above in part only & I prove it easily, lol - you can't & don't evading simple questions, lmao... apk
See subject: That I never said? Weak (that's you) Clue: My program automates that too via rightclick menus & allows deletions easily (whitelists do the rest & those improve every time I do a rebuild, & my sources removal lists vs. FP does the rest).
* Pretty simple - but then, of course,a MENIAL noob rookie like YOU can't grasp or comprehend that... lol!
(Heck - you DO know that even notepad.exe has a FIND, & DELETE function(s) in menus, don't you? Yes, it even works!!! LMAO...)
Oh, your FINAL "grasping @ straws" TAKES THE CAKE here, lol:
Your "hypothetical reaching"? Useless. I mean, lol, I can say "IF SITE X WAS COMPROMISED THE WORLD WOULD END" etc. but my ware?
FACT:
It's proven to be INVIOLATE, bugfree & bulletproof as well as safe proven by 57 antivirus programs!
Why?
Well, UNLIKE YOU menial??
I actually have the skills to code such applications (not mere scripts) after a 23++ yr. or so professional career on multiple levels in the art & science of computing... you? No way.
You TALK a lot, but you're no doer...
I mean, for Pete's sake: You can't even backup your "braggadocio" quoted here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
(Whereas I can bnck ANYTHING I say easily & crush your wannabe menial ass easily doing so, every single time... lmao!)
APK
P.S.=> Man... no joke: YOU? You're just TOO EASY to crush & dismantle - that makes YOU, pitiful, it really does... why??
Hell - above in the last link prove it - YOU ARE ALL TALK, not an actual doer!
Yes, you're just a rookie noob menial who is HELPLESS minus guys like me that create tools that menial monkey FOOLS like you 'use', user - you illustrate a by rote MENIAL level of understanding of things computing nearly EVERY TIME YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH, which I easily SLAM SHUT with facts... lol! apk
you rookie noob menial
wannabe NOOB ROOKIE MENIAL
LIMITED DOLT
menials like YOU
YOU ARE HELPLESS!
So in other words, you have nothing to say. So, I'd like to see the domain you managed and deployed your hosts file to that didn't have a DNS server at a fortune 100/500 company. But I expect instead, I will just get responses about how inferior I am while all along talking about how superior your solution is to anything else in the world, while still not understanding basic concepts like domains and DNS and permissions.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Here's some that are QUITE contrary to yours from /. users + experts in the field:
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
&
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
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* Let's see - a TOP antimalware company hosts AND RECOMMENDS my ware, & real users here like it - you're outnumbered, outthought, & OUTSMARTED, easily as usual, by "yours truly"...
APK
P.S.=> You've done better, & earlier? Prove it... pretty simple. What YOU have proven vs. myself in the past is that YOU are VERY EASY to destroy, lol -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... as YOU RAN "Forrest" from my simple challenge to validly technically disprove my points on hosts giving users more speed, security, reliability & even anonymity - doing so with FAR LESS RESOURCE CONSUMPTION yet doing FAR MORE than inferior slower sold-out usermode browser addons... lol, so much for "the trolling likes of YOU", worm... apk
Where's your security guide you wrote millions used (easy if you know what you're doing)?
Where YOUR security program work that a HIGHLY ESTEEMED security company HOST & RECOMMEND for you like I've done??
ANSWER = They're NOT... lol!
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See subject:
By now, since it's been nearly a decade on the guide? That's truth from tons of sites where I PUT IT OUT FOR THOSE THAT REALLY NEED IT: Normal end users, & it's made easy by CIS Tool.
R O T F L M A O - funniest part is? It seems I ought to have put it out on "security guru" forums - fools like YOU, wannabes, NEED IT MORE if you're indicative of those in 'security' (considering how easily I have shredded your ass repeatedly on ALL levels, lol).
Did the likes of CIS Tool (highly esteemed security tool) accept FIXES you provided???
NO TO ALL THE ABOVE FROM "Coren22 - the wannabe 'security guru'" who can't backup his b.s. -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
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Seriously:
Man - You've GOT to be the BIGGEST blowhard wannabe I've EVER encountered online, no joke... & funniest part is, YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELF TROLLING ME HERE FOR MONTHS ON HOSTS... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Yes, you brought it on yourself only to be EASILY CRUSHED & DISMANTLED -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & that's only 1 of such destructions you've brought on yourself here...
All others are all here easily verified where I counter YOU & other menial's "so-called 'points'" that prove you can't THINK FOR YOURSELVES or DO ANYTHING worthwhile since you truly ARE, LIMITED DOLTS - which is why you create ZERO of good note (not even security guides, whereas I by comparison can show TONS of that out of myself that's easily verifiable... lol, unlike YOUR BS above in that 1st link)... apk
See subject: It's just fact(s) - hosts can offload DNS servers lightening their loads via hardcoded favorites
(Favorite sites @ the TOP of hosts, for fastest possible LOCAL resolution no less, & where you spend 95++% of your time online no less, resolving FASTER locally cached in system RAM - fact, SINCE HOSTS ARE THE 1st resolver queried vs. remote DNS)
That same technique also aids RELIABILITY + SECURITY vs. redirect poisoned, rogue, or abused Open DNS resolvers!
(not OpenDNS to avoid 'confusion' & lord knows, based on what's happened here? You trolls get CONFUSED TYING YOUR SHOES, lol!).
* You could use a logon script, but cronjobs (or other schedulers) can run a script periodically to do it OR do it manually too!
(VERY easily, even manually if need be, & securing you DOWN TO THE ENDPOINTS (vs. "eggshell" perimeter security only - a BAD idea alone in & of itself... "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" is the best thing we have going - OR don't you 'security guru' trolls KNOW that? Apparently not so clue: Hosts fit that as part of it).
Lastly:
DOWNMODDING ME LAST TIME I POSTED THIS YET NOT VALIDLY TECHNICALLY PROVING ME WRONG MEANS YOU FAILED -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> You menials need to understand something - your understanding of computing is EXTREMELY LIMITED & clearly "by rote" (indicating you can't THINK for yourselves & it's WHY you're relegated to menial roles vs. creating the TOOLS limited FOOLS like you use that guys like ME create for you - without which? Fact: You're helpless...)
... apk
I would suggest that for mobile devices, dealing with dns based blocking at the local router/dns level only works when you are home. Device based dns blocking works even when you're using public wifi. Alternatively, one could set up an outside facing(hosted perhaps) DNS server and make sure your devices use a static DNS pointed at your server, but I'm not sure that's worth it for 2 mobile devices.
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JimFive
Please stop using the word theory when you mean hypothesis.
Why should I have to when you evade backing YOUR bluster blowhard -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Hmmm?
When YOU can show us you've done guides (which you yourself said you used to learn from but the results show you don't know shit here) that you were PAID for http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... as I was for securing systems that was used by MILLIONS by now worldwide -> http://www.bing.com/search?q=%... featured on MANY websites & often HIGHLY RATED too!
(In those guides? I used the HIGHLY ESTEEMED CIS TOOL since it makes securing a pc EASY - & guess what else?? I PUT IN FIXES INTO IT they acknowledged + accepted... have you? No. As per my usual - should you want PROOF of security people taking MY fixes in CIS TOOL? Ask - since as per my usual, I can easily backup what I say with proof you can even verify as always... you can't - see 1st link above!)
OR
That YOU have written a SECURITY tool SO WELL it's found not only safe by 57 antivirus companies, but actually HOSTED & RECOMMENDED BY PROBABLY THE BEST ONE THERE IS -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... [hosts-file.net] AND IS TO THIS DAY "bugfree & bulletproof" code?
Well - then you can actually TALK!
Until then, YOU are a "ne'er-do-well" who creates ZERO using what coders like myself CREATE for you to use )
Face facts:
Minus us coders? YOU ARE HELPLESS & You?? You're all talk, no action... that's you.
YOU ARE JUST TOO EASY TO CRUSH!
Plus You trolled me here for months, your post history proves it for me...
NO QUESTIONS ASKED - You caused this, FOR YOURSELF, by yourself in trolling me + F'ing up HUGELY technically as well!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly - all you can manage is to downmod this last time I posted it here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... to TRY "hide it" & guess what? Here it is again... apk
See subject: According to Coren22 I shouldn't do something that makes me safer, faster, more reliably connected as well as more anonymous online on the "advice" of the "THE GREATEST COMPUTER SECURITY GUY (lol, NOT) on earth" in Coren22 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
?
LMAO - no way.
He can't even BACKUP HIS "braggadocio" in that link!
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Coren22 also doesn't understand a SIMPLE premise that hosts help you on as far as security:
IF YOU CAN'T TOUCH THE FIRE YOU CAN'T BE BURNT BY IT
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Which is a BIG part of what hosts do for users of them along with doing MORE for speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity than ANY single inefficient browser addon that Coren22 likes (adblock iirc, sold out to Google to NOT DO ITS JOB, so much for its 'security') does, by far, WITH FAR LESS RESOURCE CONSUMPTION too!
(WFP/SFP in Windows protects the file & IF you leave my program resident in APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o... supplements that protection (via a 'pretty cool trick' I do in its code, "pats self on back", since I don't use an EXCLUSIVE lock - but nothing can WRITE HOSTS using it, but all can read)!
It gets its data vs. BOTH ads & online threats from 10 reputable sources in the security community itself for protecting you as well as speeding you up!
(My program gives you more speed ontop of that in not only adblocking but also locally resolved 'hardcoded' favorite sites you spend most likely a GOOD 95++% OF YOUR TIME ONLINE AT AS WELL, from RAM cached, which also makes you more reliably connected vs. DNS exploits in redirect poisoning - MULTIPLE bonuses!).
LASTLY:
APK
P.S.=> REPOSTING DUE TO Coren22's OBVIOUS KARMA-FARMING SOCKPUPPETS USE DOWNMODDING THIS SAME POST LAST TIME I POSTED IT -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
(Since that's ALL a dolt like him can manage vs. proving me wrong validly!)... apk
With enough RAM to contain 3,798,170++ entries as my hosts file does? No, they don't & it works for anyone w/ a BSD derived IP stack since hosts are part of it.
(Your LIMITED "hardware head" is exactly that - LIMITED like your know-now + so is your market as MOST folks don't have one that can do it but they do have hosts... get that too? GOOD!)
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Question:
ROUTERS DON'T GET EXPLOITED TOO? Tell me about a CISCO 2811 recently then - how about getting THEIR DNS setting changed by malware too in the past??
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Lastly:
REPOSTING DUE TO DOWNMOD ABUSERS DOWNMODDING THIS LAST TIME I POSTED IT SINCE THEY CAN'T GET THE BETTER OF ME TECHNICALLY OBVIOUSLY -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> You say I am "stalking" him? You have NO IDEA how much of that our resident LITTLE PRICK TROLL Coren22's done to me over months - his post history PROVES it.
Yes - only to get his ass handed to him as I have done now, rather easily, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Based on a VERY SIMPLE PRINCIPAL: What you can't touch can't harm you, & hosts allow it - in fact, YOU do the same, albeit hardware-side, but NOT EVERYONE HAS A ROUTER LIKE THAT fool - they usually do with hosts (like 99.999% of the time)... apk
See subject, answer it (you ran & downmodded instead http://slashdot.org/comments.p... last time I posted it, lmao - "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!"): Most folks don't even HAVE routers, let alone one with that much RAM!
Hosts can do that though.
So, "drink it in & digest this":
Everyone has hosts (for the most part) & they work!
Hosts work with less complexity (by FAR vs. DNS rules tables) easily edited doing FAR MORE for FAR LESS resource consumption (especially vs. DNS setup on a separate machine chewing up not only MORE cpu, ram, & other forms of I/O but also electrical power raising bills needlessly by BY ROTE MENIALS (lol, you) "bolting on 'MoAr' vs using what you HAVE ALREADY NATIVELY that does the job for considerably less on nearly most all grounds...).
APK
P.S.=> Routers DON'T get exploited MASSIVELY? LMAO - Please: DO Tell us another one (like about recent CISCO 2811 & other models OR rogue DNS insertions into routers, and Open DNS resolvers being exploited to attack systems, kaminsky redirect security flaw poisoning, etc. - et al that I could rattle off here easily IF need be...).
FACT:
Nothing that I know of in usermode @ least can "get to" hosts between WFP/SFP with my program resident which supplements that (I tried, couldn't do it myself even due to the "pats self on back" technique I use that lets READS occur, but NOT WRITES - beauty of it is that it's NOT an "exclusive lock" is why)... apk
YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats online:
"So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)
Hypocrite - You admit you use admin priv
&
How else could I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?
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"Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)
You FINALLY admit later there's no other way!
FACT:
Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!
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Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
Oliver Day (Symantec) does too -> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
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* HOW MANY SECURITY PROS MORE DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?
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Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ those guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!
I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me too - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
You told me you learn from guides? I write 'em (good ones) that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...
+ WARES TO PROTECT USERS that're endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
You did all that? No & that's a small part of what I could put out.
APK
P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" as far as security
...apk
I'm running a 2014 Moto G with Android 5, and the SD card has a number of apps running on it as well as storing all the pictures/videos taken with the phone. Seems to work just fine.