Prior to government handouts, people with no skills, worked no skill jobs. it was a net win for the country as people who were unemployable had jobs. with government handouts, at the bottom of the scale it is easier for people with no skills to collect a check from the government (OUR pockets) while at the same time forcing employees to hire illegals to do the job "americans dont want", this has the double negative of burdening our system even further and taking money out of our economy as a large number of migrant workers send their money back home, taking it out of the american economy.
why cant these people on welfare be given jobs "americans wont do" and start contributing "their fair share"???
I dont disagree with your point on the market. My issue is that you dont want a free market, you want to artificially increase the wages of employees who dont deserve it.
Lets look at it like this. Lets say they do jump from 10-15 bucks overnight. well, what about the people who were making 15.25? are they getting a 5 buck an hour raise as well? or are they now considered minimum wage jobs?? If ive worked to get out of a min wage job and to make 5 bucks over, shouldnt I also get a raise to offset the difference? and so on and so on.
so now we have people who worked hard to get their raises getting shit on
explain to me why gas in NY (yesterday) was 3.84, no service. But in NJ, it was 3.31 full service??? how can NJ afford to pay their full service attendants, and give us cheeper gas than in NY
Except, that's never been the case. You can not point to any increase in minimum wage in history that has depressed the job market on the low end. It has never happened.
No, but i can tell you when I worked at a mcdonalds as a kid, min wage was 4:80 or something close to that. NY raised it to 7 bucks, the cost of all the food rose by a dollar overnight, the dollar menu was taken down and 3 people did get fired.
Personal stories are by no means indicitive of the entire situation, but thats one example of what happens when you raise min wage
If a business can't employ someone for minimum wage, then their business model is broken. They are basically saying that their product or service is of such little value, that people will not pay enough for it such that the workers involved in delivering that product or service can live a bare existence lifestyle.
Really? I dont believe that at all. one should not be paid 20 buck an hour to pick apples, or take an order at mcdonalds, the job is not worth that much, if it were our food would cost double and we would be in the same boat. just because you now make 50 grand instead of 25 sounds good, but if the cost of everything goes up to match that change, whats the point??
no, what you describe is your fearful thoughts of what libertarianism actually is. Do yourself a favor and actually read their platform instead of insulting people you dont understand. www.lp.org. Educate yourself, you might stop sounding like a smug jackass
how can you blame the republicans for the state of nasa? bush had the funding in place when he left office, obama gutted the program, and made one of NASAs missions, sorry their "formost" mission is increading the relationship with muslims. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
explain to me what reaching out to muslims have to do with space travel????
there is alot of blame to go around, but a lot of it belongs on obama
For one, not everyone wants to move. Many of the people who call for a hands-off federal government would be quick to emphasize the value of family and stable local communities.
which is EXACTLY why I feel you living where you do, with your peers should have more say in your own life than a couple of rich people in washington who are out of touch with the realities of where you live.
i just dont want the government taxing taxes from one group of people to pay for the toys of others. simple as that. that goes for these cars and anything else that gets subsided which is not needed for living.
did he say he was tagging other peoples property? (granted we all assume as much) no he didnt. Perhaps he tagged in places he has permission like quite a number of grafitti artists get these days (im talking artists, not gang tags on the side of slums) In my town our town payed an atrist 2 grand for a 30 foot mural that turned out amazing
as long as we are still using (insert power of choice) it doesnt matter, a few nukes on oil fields, a few nukes on the hydro dams, a few nukes in the coal plants, hell a few nukes on a nuke plant. Unless one has self sustaining power (off grid) transportation is still tied to the grid.
as for the cars and global warming thing, cars contribute somewhere between 1% and 5% of bad greenhouse gasses, planes big rigs, chem plants etc produce the other 95-99%, doing anything with regard to global warming in regards to passenger cars is like trying to stop the fukushima disaster from happening by using gum to block the damage in the reactor cover,its not even going to put a dent into the issue.
japan was not allowed to have a military after WW2, im not sure what the status is now but that is the reason we protect them, or did in the past at least
end of discussion, the government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers, I was against the hybrid tax subsidies just as well its not fair to the rest of us who are stuck driving older cars to assist in your payment of your new toy
this is the EXACT attitude on why I am against government forced health care. As they can make arguments like that, whats next coffee?? red steak? carbs???
and only outlawed for racist reasons (unlike marijuana, which had william henry hurst and dupont using the government to protect their industries, as well as racism)
150x the THC is not the harmless stuff the hippies from the 60's smoked.
all this means is instead of smoking a full 1 gram joint, you can get just as high off 1 or 2 hits. Therefore you are inhaling less smoke. Therefore it IS safer than the pot of the 60s
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care to elaborate?
thats really what you gathered from that post???
Prior to government handouts, people with no skills, worked no skill jobs. it was a net win for the country as people who were unemployable had jobs. with government handouts, at the bottom of the scale it is easier for people with no skills to collect a check from the government (OUR pockets) while at the same time forcing employees to hire illegals to do the job "americans dont want", this has the double negative of burdening our system even further and taking money out of our economy as a large number of migrant workers send their money back home, taking it out of the american economy.
why cant these people on welfare be given jobs "americans wont do" and start contributing "their fair share"???
I dont disagree with your point on the market. My issue is that you dont want a free market, you want to artificially increase the wages of employees who dont deserve it.
Lets look at it like this. Lets say they do jump from 10-15 bucks overnight. well, what about the people who were making 15.25? are they getting a 5 buck an hour raise as well? or are they now considered minimum wage jobs?? If ive worked to get out of a min wage job and to make 5 bucks over, shouldnt I also get a raise to offset the difference? and so on and so on.
so now we have people who worked hard to get their raises getting shit on
explain to me why gas in NY (yesterday) was 3.84, no service. But in NJ, it was 3.31 full service??? how can NJ afford to pay their full service attendants, and give us cheeper gas than in NY
Except, that's never been the case. You can not point to any increase in minimum wage in history that has depressed the job market on the low end. It has never happened.
No, but i can tell you when I worked at a mcdonalds as a kid, min wage was 4:80 or something close to that. NY raised it to 7 bucks, the cost of all the food rose by a dollar overnight, the dollar menu was taken down and 3 people did get fired.
Personal stories are by no means indicitive of the entire situation, but thats one example of what happens when you raise min wage
Or are you suggesting we should have allowed the gas stations to have slaves?
really? I had no idea that gas stations owned people in the past. I thought we were free to come and go as we please....
If a business can't employ someone for minimum wage, then their business model is broken. They are basically saying that their product or service is of such little value, that people will not pay enough for it such that the workers involved in delivering that product or service can live a bare existence lifestyle.
Really? I dont believe that at all. one should not be paid 20 buck an hour to pick apples, or take an order at mcdonalds, the job is not worth that much, if it were our food would cost double and we would be in the same boat. just because you now make 50 grand instead of 25 sounds good, but if the cost of everything goes up to match that change, whats the point??
no, what you describe is your fearful thoughts of what libertarianism actually is. Do yourself a favor and actually read their platform instead of insulting people you dont understand. www.lp.org. Educate yourself, you might stop sounding like a smug jackass
how can you blame the republicans for the state of nasa? bush had the funding in place when he left office, obama gutted the program, and made one of NASAs missions, sorry their "formost" mission is increading the relationship with muslims. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
explain to me what reaching out to muslims have to do with space travel????
there is alot of blame to go around, but a lot of it belongs on obama
For one, not everyone wants to move. Many of the people who call for a hands-off federal government would be quick to emphasize the value of family and stable local communities.
which is EXACTLY why I feel you living where you do, with your peers should have more say in your own life than a couple of rich people in washington who are out of touch with the realities of where you live.
finally someone understands the reason we are in this mess
liberal logic at its finest
except for people were complaining that bush was not a real republican and he was a RINO, so which is it??
i just dont want the government taxing taxes from one group of people to pay for the toys of others. simple as that. that goes for these cars and anything else that gets subsided which is not needed for living.
did he say he was tagging other peoples property? (granted we all assume as much) no he didnt. Perhaps he tagged in places he has permission like quite a number of grafitti artists get these days (im talking artists, not gang tags on the side of slums) In my town our town payed an atrist 2 grand for a 30 foot mural that turned out amazing
im not sure but the summary sure makes it seem as if there was not D&D then there would be a world full of serial killers. Hyperbole much??
as long as we are still using (insert power of choice) it doesnt matter, a few nukes on oil fields, a few nukes on the hydro dams, a few nukes in the coal plants, hell a few nukes on a nuke plant. Unless one has self sustaining power (off grid) transportation is still tied to the grid.
as for the cars and global warming thing, cars contribute somewhere between 1% and 5% of bad greenhouse gasses, planes big rigs, chem plants etc produce the other 95-99%, doing anything with regard to global warming in regards to passenger cars is like trying to stop the fukushima disaster from happening by using gum to block the damage in the reactor cover,its not even going to put a dent into the issue.
good point
just because they do something wrong means they should do more wrong?? no, just no
japan was not allowed to have a military after WW2, im not sure what the status is now but that is the reason we protect them, or did in the past at least
no.
how it SHOULD work is simple
car company builds car
car buyer buys car
end of discussion, the government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers, I was against the hybrid tax subsidies just as well its not fair to the rest of us who are stuck driving older cars to assist in your payment of your new toy
why should I have to pay for you to buy a new car???? no this is NOT how you do things
this is the EXACT attitude on why I am against government forced health care. As they can make arguments like that, whats next coffee?? red steak? carbs???
and only outlawed for racist reasons (unlike marijuana, which had william henry hurst and dupont using the government to protect their industries, as well as racism)
150x the THC is not the harmless stuff the hippies from the 60's smoked.
all this means is instead of smoking a full 1 gram joint, you can get just as high off 1 or 2 hits. Therefore you are inhaling less smoke. Therefore it IS safer than the pot of the 60s
next?