personally with the fuckup? nothing, but his agencies unwillingness to come forward with information when requested (or when it should be common sense to release information) is a joke. I wont blame obama for something that happened before he was born, but how it is handled when it comes to light is his problem as this is a federal agency.
what does obama have to do with this particular instance? nothing (that we know of yet) however "the buck stops uhhh with me"~ obama words, not mine
the problem is that his people (his federal agencies) refuse to be honest about anything. granted we dont know enough about this issue yet to place blame, and it is not something that was his fault as they have been there before he was elected. but the point remains every other day there is some issue at the federal level, and there is a subset of voters who want to give the federal government even more power
it seems the federal governments MO these days. first you lie "it was a movie!!!" when you get caught, you only admit the small details of what you got caught with "well, it was only a rogue agent, it was not sent down from above" then you drag it out as long as you can "we are having internal investigations to ensure this isolated incident does not ever happen again" Then you get caught in more than you initially got caught in "well, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!!!" then you make up more lies to cover up the lies that you got caught in to begin with (all while blaming the other political party for witch hunts, eventhough they have been right)
This seems to be the case for the IRS, the DOJ, the FBI, the NSA, the white house etc. I would be more shocked if they told us no, that really was just a single vial, and it be truthful
if the democrats allowed the delaying of the mandate (which obama did AS SOON as the shutdown ended, it wouldnt have shut down
the shutdown was implemented by the democrats, to make it look like the republicans were the bad guys. The only issue is that in no previous shutdown were places like the WW2 memorial blockaided (costing more money than not doing anything)
The only people who actually blame the republicans are those who are spoonfed by the democrats and the media, anyone who pays attention know it was nothing but a ploy to make republicans look bad, like their "republicans want grandma to eat cat food" bullshit
I just posted this above and I hate to copy and paste the same comment 2 times in a thread, but i really need to correct you here.
The shutdown was over the delay of some portions of obamacare due to the website not being ready. obama and the democrats would not budge, instead "allowed the republicans" to shut down the government. They then proceeded to gate off open air monuments, and close down privately ran restaurants that get no funding federally and instead bring in money for the feds, to make it hurt the little guys as much as possible
after all this, the very reason the government shutdown, blamed on the republicans, were instituted as soon as "the democrats reopened the federal government"
Im sure I left out some information but let us remember the government shutdown was not something the republicans wanted, and the hardships put on the WW2 vets was done by the administration
to be fair, there is a lot of important information missing there
The shutdown was over the delay of some portions of obamacare due to the website not being ready. obama and the democrats would not budge, instead "allowed the republicans" to shut down the government. They then proceeded to gate off open air monuments, and close down privately ran restaurants that get no funding federally and instead bring in money for the feds, to make it hurt the little guys as much as possible
after all this, the very reason the government shutdown, blamed on the republicans, were instituted as soon as "the democrats reopened the federal government"
Im sure I left out some information but let us remember the government shutdown was not something the republicans wanted, and the hardships put on the WW2 vets was done by the administration
why does it seem that non libertarians claim to know what we stand for, when the truth is everytime i see someone make a claim that " libertarians are xxx" it always is flat wrong? no libertarian i know of thinks they can live in their own little bubble. what you said is the same as saying that the democrats want to force abortions on everyone or the republicans want grandma to eat dogfood, its either a lie or ignorance.
because a concept should not be taxed, the infrastructure IS taxed, meaning the servers and cables and the like. This is about taxing access to the internet. do you think you should have to pay a nickle everytime you log in to the government??? I dont
you bring up meta data, which you can hide behind the courts ruling that meta data is not data, i would argue otherwise but ill give you that for now
what about the new information that they are recording some 80% of voice calls??? that IS data, not meta data, that is illegally wiretapping because that WOULD be considered a general warrant.
You say a lot of things that unlike others here I agree with, but your boner for the NSA makes me shake my head. Those who prefer security over liberty deserve neither
sorry if i dont understand, but a man buying a home, and wanting to live in it *THE HORROR!!!* rather than rent it out, goes out of his way to pay double what is allowed by law, and gives them a full year instead of 3 months as required by law.... and this man is being attacked by the people of san fran. The only thing he did was buy a house, legally, and want to live it it, legally.
the only people I see acting like spoiled brats are those who find an issue with the statement i just made, AKA people from san fran
agreed, I dont buy into the AGW religion but i am happy to buy things that are cleaner for the world when I can afford them. Making solar panels and other green tech cheaper is always good by anyones standards.
The only people I would think would be against this is the governments collecting the tarriffs
low income housing??
personally with the fuckup? nothing, but his agencies unwillingness to come forward with information when requested (or when it should be common sense to release information) is a joke. I wont blame obama for something that happened before he was born, but how it is handled when it comes to light is his problem as this is a federal agency.
what does obama have to do with this particular instance? nothing (that we know of yet) however "the buck stops uhhh with me"~ obama words, not mine
the problem is that his people (his federal agencies) refuse to be honest about anything. granted we dont know enough about this issue yet to place blame, and it is not something that was his fault as they have been there before he was elected. but the point remains every other day there is some issue at the federal level, and there is a subset of voters who want to give the federal government even more power
he really does. I hated bush (look at my posts at the time of his presidency) but after 6 years of this obamnation, i almost feel sorry for him.
missmeyet.jpg makes so much sense
it seems the federal governments MO these days.
first you lie "it was a movie!!!"
when you get caught, you only admit the small details of what you got caught with "well, it was only a rogue agent, it was not sent down from above"
then you drag it out as long as you can "we are having internal investigations to ensure this isolated incident does not ever happen again"
Then you get caught in more than you initially got caught in "well, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!!!"
then you make up more lies to cover up the lies that you got caught in to begin with (all while blaming the other political party for witch hunts, eventhough they have been right)
This seems to be the case for the IRS, the DOJ, the FBI, the NSA, the white house etc. I would be more shocked if they told us no, that really was just a single vial, and it be truthful
if the democrats allowed the delaying of the mandate (which obama did AS SOON as the shutdown ended, it wouldnt have shut down
the shutdown was implemented by the democrats, to make it look like the republicans were the bad guys. The only issue is that in no previous shutdown were places like the WW2 memorial blockaided (costing more money than not doing anything)
The only people who actually blame the republicans are those who are spoonfed by the democrats and the media, anyone who pays attention know it was nothing but a ploy to make republicans look bad, like their "republicans want grandma to eat cat food" bullshit
I just posted this above and I hate to copy and paste the same comment 2 times in a thread, but i really need to correct you here.
The shutdown was over the delay of some portions of obamacare due to the website not being ready. obama and the democrats would not budge, instead "allowed the republicans" to shut down the government. They then proceeded to gate off open air monuments, and close down privately ran restaurants that get no funding federally and instead bring in money for the feds, to make it hurt the little guys as much as possible
after all this, the very reason the government shutdown, blamed on the republicans, were instituted as soon as "the democrats reopened the federal government"
Im sure I left out some information but let us remember the government shutdown was not something the republicans wanted, and the hardships put on the WW2 vets was done by the administration
to be fair, there is a lot of important information missing there
The shutdown was over the delay of some portions of obamacare due to the website not being ready. obama and the democrats would not budge, instead "allowed the republicans" to shut down the government. They then proceeded to gate off open air monuments, and close down privately ran restaurants that get no funding federally and instead bring in money for the feds, to make it hurt the little guys as much as possible
after all this, the very reason the government shutdown, blamed on the republicans, were instituted as soon as "the democrats reopened the federal government"
Im sure I left out some information but let us remember the government shutdown was not something the republicans wanted, and the hardships put on the WW2 vets was done by the administration
why does it seem that non libertarians claim to know what we stand for, when the truth is everytime i see someone make a claim that " libertarians are xxx" it always is flat wrong? no libertarian i know of thinks they can live in their own little bubble. what you said is the same as saying that the democrats want to force abortions on everyone or the republicans want grandma to eat dogfood, its either a lie or ignorance.
so, are you a liar, or just ignorant??
because a concept should not be taxed, the infrastructure IS taxed, meaning the servers and cables and the like. This is about taxing access to the internet. do you think you should have to pay a nickle everytime you log in to the government??? I dont
Wait you mean hes not? My history book in san fran says exactly that!
you bring up meta data, which you can hide behind the courts ruling that meta data is not data, i would argue otherwise but ill give you that for now
what about the new information that they are recording some 80% of voice calls??? that IS data, not meta data, that is illegally wiretapping because that WOULD be considered a general warrant.
You say a lot of things that unlike others here I agree with, but your boner for the NSA makes me shake my head. Those who prefer security over liberty deserve neither
right,because the courts are always correct right?
ok, i was not sure if that 250 mil number was correct or not, id like to find out what the actual difference is
well eliminating tarriffs is a good first start, that would drop the cost up to 35% for some people, thats not chump change
so in other words, we built a factory in a 3rd world country, and gave people with no money, money, and there is a problem with this???
Have you paused to consider that there might be other lifestyles than your own?
have YOU?
and there is nothing wrong with that
oh ok, i got you now. apologies for coming off like a dick
sorry if i dont understand, but a man buying a home, and wanting to live in it *THE HORROR!!!* rather than rent it out, goes out of his way to pay double what is allowed by law, and gives them a full year instead of 3 months as required by law.... and this man is being attacked by the people of san fran. The only thing he did was buy a house, legally, and want to live it it, legally.
the only people I see acting like spoiled brats are those who find an issue with the statement i just made, AKA people from san fran
citation? not a complaint im actually interested in the difference here
agreed, I dont buy into the AGW religion but i am happy to buy things that are cleaner for the world when I can afford them. Making solar panels and other green tech cheaper is always good by anyones standards.
The only people I would think would be against this is the governments collecting the tarriffs
and who gets to decide what is "unnaturally high"??
well i like the america i was taught growing up better than the one we live in today
in other words, you want to keep a protected class, and keep out the techies, who are making things more accessible for all.... got it