defensive? hardly, At this point being called a bigot or a racist by the likes of liberals is a sign that you have no real argument. As I said, instead of debating what I said, you throw insults. The thread speaks for itself.
Well first off, we are not a true democracy we are a republic. Second of all our country is constantly pushing laws we dont want, for example to soda ban which thankfully was overturned by the courts (the system worked that time) or over taxing of vices, outlawing subsstances that are proven to be not only not harmful but benificial. Its not a perfect system by any means.
Traffic lights are a safety measure, without traffic lights the flow would grind to a hault, have you ever seen the photos of cities around the turn of the century? Horses and cars everywhere no traffic flow that makes any sense it was chaos!
I love the idea of UHC, as long as we have the choice if we want it or not. MOST people under the age of 30 dont need health insurance except for catastrophic. I go to the doctor once every few years (im 28). What *I* think would make the most sense is do away with the concept that insurance should pay for everything, Just like with schools, the cost of tuition went through the roof as soon as the government mandated anyone can get student loans, schools could not charge more money knowing the government was footing the bill. the same thing happens in the HC world in america. If I have a cold or something minor and go to a doctor for an antibiotic, it will cost memore time in paperwork, and more money that it has to because of the overhead needed for insurance, UHC would resolve a portion of that but it would also restrict everyone to deal with things one way. Why cant i go to a doctor pay him 50 bucks out of pocket to give me an antibiotic? because of the system.
look, NO one is saying that *all laws are bad* I am saying that the minimum number of laws work best. The poster I responded to somehow believes that democrats are for more freedom when I simply pointed out that cant be true when they are the ones forcing people to buy a product they dont want on the national level, on the local level they try and ban vices (cigs are now only avalable to those 21 and older in NYC, and the soda bans) I really dont get your point about traffic lights and the such. The problem with the tea party isnt that the message is lost, well not at the fault of the actual tea party members. If one simply goes and reads the information presented rather than listen to the news. Lets face it the news will always focus on the 1 loon rather than the core message. Frankly I kind of like hannity's penny plan which is for every dollar we spend, cut 1 penny over a 5 year term.
public, What does race have ANYTHING to do at all with what I said, If you got nothing to contribute, keep your trap closed. The only desperate people I see are those who like to deflect from the real issues and revert to name calling and race baiting
"Our health care sucks so we pass a law DEMANDING that everyone get insurance or pay a fine" I think we seem to agree fully here we are just differing on the wording
The level of incompetence and dysfunction brought to government by Obama is in a new category. Romney would likely have done things I would have disagreed with (I didn't vote for him), but nowhere near as much as Obama.
This was not a response to the health care it was a response to incompetency in the office of the whitehouse.
really? because in america there is no forced standard on connectors yet somehow everyone else seemed to have the same connector after a while, From 2005 on most phones were mini or micro USB today all but apple are microUSB, and no one forced that
what does any of that have to do with what I said?
lets try and follow some simple points instead of going off on a tangent.
The bengazi issue I simply mentioned that we the people we sold a story that they were attacked because some guy posted a video on youtube. This lie continued for days if not weeks.
REGARDLESS of all the point you made, it does not change the fact that the white house lied about the facts as they happened, and instead blame some guy who made a dumb movie.
NONE of what you said, had anything to do with my point, and the point is that the white house , that said it would be the most transparent white house in history, lied (and also lied about the transparency to boot)
while you wont ever see me using an Iphone or other apple products any longer, I actually have no issue with apples decision to use their own connector. *I* have the *choice* on whether or not I want to use it or not. If I find it better to use their connecters, I can since I dont I go with any number of other phones out there. On the other hand I do like standards, but I do not like forced standards.
as opposed to the left who dont want freedom or control, well except for mandating that we buy a product we dont want, or outlawing drinks over 16 ounces, or.... but yeah, its those EVOL right wingers who want people to keep their own money and make their own decisions who are against freedom.. you know like keeping your own money or making your own decisions..... wait what??
explain to me how the IRS scandal is bogus when A - the IRS admits it did wrong doing, and B - there are emails that show that it was not a rogue employee but rather sent down the chain of command? Let me guess, Benghazi is really about some guy who made a movie about Mohammad as well?
not bullshit at all. Regardless of how you label it we are spending money on health care. and it fits this study perfectly because as you said we are not spending it wisely
As someone living in NY, bloomberg SUCKS. I mean he has no clue what the people need/want. hes one of them "rich white people" everyone on the left loves to hate, he wants to tell us what we can drink and eat, how much we can have of it, he is so out of touch with what needs to be done. Bloomy is just a joke to us here in NY
if you REALLY think the road was started by bush and the republicans only a few years ago you clearly dont know your history. The road you speak of has been laid and paved long before bush was even born. Its funny, you talk to him like hes the one playing partisan politics when its obvious you are
'We find that a large influx of capital is successful in escaping the poverty trap, but increasing health spending alone is not,
Pretty much, we spend more money on HC in america than any other country yet our care is no where near good by any stretch of the imagination. Throwing more money at it like the current admin wants to do, according to this study anyway seems to be a waste of money
Fear of a gun is irrational. a gun is nothing but some metal and plastic bits. I dont know about you but a gun sitting on the desk or o the ground has never hurt anyone or anything on its own. Fearing a "metal tube with a handle" is irrational by any measure.
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so its like congress!
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we were "mostly standard" before your requirement of the standard so again I dont get your point. there was no need for government intervention here
defensive? hardly, At this point being called a bigot or a racist by the likes of liberals is a sign that you have no real argument. As I said, instead of debating what I said, you throw insults. The thread speaks for itself.
Well first off, we are not a true democracy we are a republic. Second of all our country is constantly pushing laws we dont want, for example to soda ban which thankfully was overturned by the courts (the system worked that time) or over taxing of vices, outlawing subsstances that are proven to be not only not harmful but benificial. Its not a perfect system by any means.
Traffic lights are a safety measure, without traffic lights the flow would grind to a hault, have you ever seen the photos of cities around the turn of the century? Horses and cars everywhere no traffic flow that makes any sense it was chaos!
I love the idea of UHC, as long as we have the choice if we want it or not. MOST people under the age of 30 dont need health insurance except for catastrophic. I go to the doctor once every few years (im 28). What *I* think would make the most sense is do away with the concept that insurance should pay for everything, Just like with schools, the cost of tuition went through the roof as soon as the government mandated anyone can get student loans, schools could not charge more money knowing the government was footing the bill. the same thing happens in the HC world in america. If I have a cold or something minor and go to a doctor for an antibiotic, it will cost memore time in paperwork, and more money that it has to because of the overhead needed for insurance, UHC would resolve a portion of that but it would also restrict everyone to deal with things one way. Why cant i go to a doctor pay him 50 bucks out of pocket to give me an antibiotic? because of the system.
look, NO one is saying that *all laws are bad* I am saying that the minimum number of laws work best. The poster I responded to somehow believes that democrats are for more freedom when I simply pointed out that cant be true when they are the ones forcing people to buy a product they dont want on the national level, on the local level they try and ban vices (cigs are now only avalable to those 21 and older in NYC, and the soda bans) I really dont get your point about traffic lights and the such. The problem with the tea party isnt that the message is lost, well not at the fault of the actual tea party members. If one simply goes and reads the information presented rather than listen to the news. Lets face it the news will always focus on the 1 loon rather than the core message. Frankly I kind of like hannity's penny plan which is for every dollar we spend, cut 1 penny over a 5 year term.
oh look, I have a new stalker I see.
public, What does race have ANYTHING to do at all with what I said, If you got nothing to contribute, keep your trap closed. The only desperate people I see are those who like to deflect from the real issues and revert to name calling and race baiting
that sounds EXACTLY like what obama did with HC
"Our health care sucks so we pass a law DEMANDING that everyone get insurance or pay a fine" I think we seem to agree fully here we are just differing on the wording
The level of incompetence and dysfunction brought to government by Obama is in a new category. Romney would likely have done things I would have disagreed with (I didn't vote for him), but nowhere near as much as Obama.
This was not a response to the health care it was a response to incompetency in the office of the whitehouse.
really? because in america there is no forced standard on connectors yet somehow everyone else seemed to have the same connector after a while, From 2005 on most phones were mini or micro USB today all but apple are microUSB, and no one forced that
what does any of that have to do with what I said?
lets try and follow some simple points instead of going off on a tangent.
The bengazi issue I simply mentioned that we the people we sold a story that they were attacked because some guy posted a video on youtube. This lie continued for days if not weeks.
REGARDLESS of all the point you made, it does not change the fact that the white house lied about the facts as they happened, and instead blame some guy who made a dumb movie.
NONE of what you said, had anything to do with my point, and the point is that the white house , that said it would be the most transparent white house in history, lied (and also lied about the transparency to boot)
while you wont ever see me using an Iphone or other apple products any longer, I actually have no issue with apples decision to use their own connector. *I* have the *choice* on whether or not I want to use it or not. If I find it better to use their connecters, I can since I dont I go with any number of other phones out there. On the other hand I do like standards, but I do not like forced standards.
as opposed to the left who dont want freedom or control, well except for mandating that we buy a product we dont want, or outlawing drinks over 16 ounces, or.... but yeah, its those EVOL right wingers who want people to keep their own money and make their own decisions who are against freedom.. you know like keeping your own money or making your own decisions..... wait what??
explain to me how the IRS scandal is bogus when A - the IRS admits it did wrong doing, and B - there are emails that show that it was not a rogue employee but rather sent down the chain of command? Let me guess, Benghazi is really about some guy who made a movie about Mohammad as well?
not bullshit at all. Regardless of how you label it we are spending money on health care. and it fits this study perfectly because as you said we are not spending it wisely
As someone living in NY, bloomberg SUCKS. I mean he has no clue what the people need/want. hes one of them "rich white people" everyone on the left loves to hate, he wants to tell us what we can drink and eat, how much we can have of it, he is so out of touch with what needs to be done. Bloomy is just a joke to us here in NY
Does anyone have the brakedown by city? for example in VA I believe it was the other day the democrat won, eventhough he won like 5 counties in the entire state (inner cities) and the rest of the state was red http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/2013_virginia_gubernatorial_election_map.png
if you REALLY think the road was started by bush and the republicans only a few years ago you clearly dont know your history. The road you speak of has been laid and paved long before bush was even born. Its funny, you talk to him like hes the one playing partisan politics when its obvious you are
apples and oranges, a gun will NEVER kill someone on its own, its simply impossible. Nukes on the other hand can become unstable.
'We find that a large influx of capital is successful in escaping the poverty trap, but increasing health spending alone is not,
Pretty much, we spend more money on HC in america than any other country yet our care is no where near good by any stretch of the imagination. Throwing more money at it like the current admin wants to do, according to this study anyway seems to be a waste of money
Thank you for that, now i feel foolish for posting heh
really?? I mean sure it is proper but who uses the term maize any longer??
(for those who are not up to date, maize is the native american term for corn)
Fear of a gun is irrational. a gun is nothing but some metal and plastic bits. I dont know about you but a gun sitting on the desk or o the ground has never hurt anyone or anything on its own. Fearing a "metal tube with a handle" is irrational by any measure.
anti gun crowd must be in force, This was modded +5 and now troll??
I disagree != troll people