And it'd be nice if the government didn't have to make laws on workplace safety. Or make laws about not including toxic chemicals in toys, paint or water pipes. Or making theft and murder a crime.
Because keeping your employees healthy and alive is the right thing to do. So is not intentionally or carelessly poisoning people. So is not stealing and killing.
Sometimes the law has to enforce the right thing to do because people cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
By that logic, the government has no right to mandate the amount of lead in your water pipes or paint or the sanitary conditions of a processing plant.
I mean, lets turn your argument around. You say it's OK because obviously the TSA is awesome and let it on the plane to start with, so obviously t came with a passenger. Great then, since now we "know" it was brought on by someone who went through TSA - WHY DID THEY LEAVE IT?
I mean, why on earth would someone who carefully constructed such a thing leave it behind? That makes no sense either, in fact even less sense to me. I would be pretty concerned if I saw that because anyone who had the skills to build such a thing obviously would care about it very much and have the intelligence not to forget they had it. I would be more prone to think something like that left behind was nefarious in purpose exactly because it had been left and forgotten.
Clearly you have never heard about the dozens of expensive musical instruments, including Strads, that are forgotten on trains, cabs, planes... I mean these things are not only worth hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, but, more importantly, they are the life blood of the musician. Without their instrument, they cannot perform.
People forget stuff All. The. Time. So your clever attempt at turning around the argument fails by simply looking at human nature.
Ahh, a "theory (scientific) vs theory (layman)" debate.
But, then again, particle physics simply 'requires' 5 sigma of confidence (7 9s I believe?). I can't say whether Rybka's confidence is that good or not, but let's assume for the sake of argument, it is. Would the use of 'solve' still require quotes in that case? If it does, would you require every paper on quarks to be equally asterisked?
When they have their exact change ready, yes. They are the BEST.
Ironically, those that are the worst are those, "Oh! I've got a dime around...here..." *rummages for a minute*. Unless you can get that coin in under 5 seconds, don't bother. We can make change for whatever you give us in that length of time. I'd rather break an even $20 on a $5.51 bill than have you dig for a penny if it takes you that long.
People who pay with exact change make window tellers VERY grateful. Dollar bills and pennies always ran low. I got to the point I would also make piles of change ready for future cars, assuming they would pay entirely in bills. Such a time saver...
The catch is, if you do NOT have your exact change ready, don't dig for it. Just don't. I can break that $20 faster than you can dig out that quarter.
Try "from time eternal." Inflation is a consequence of a perpetually growing economy. In of itself it's not a good thing or a bad thing. As long as other factors keep up, it just is. The US ditched the useless half-cent 150 years ago and we didn't devolve into an anarchistic Thunderdome... We'd survive losing the penny.
Because that person couldn't hear the call anyway because Aunt Bessie's corgi has asthma and she had to take it to the vet and it cut into her bridge game and she was about to win against that impossible skank Dolores the Applebee's manager who refused a refund on some disgustingly awful soup I think it was minestrone but maybe it was chicken noodle, but anyway, we're not going back to that Applebee's and we also called the regional office to tell them how awful Dolores is not that they'll do anything, I bet she sleeps with her boss, the skank, anyway the corgi is...hold on, will you shut up about your chest pains and difficulty breathing?! Can't you see I'm on a VERY IMPORTANT call?! The world doesn't revolve around you!!...so the corgi is fine now, but they have to take her in next month as a check up and I'm worried, damnit...No, I will not be quiet so you can talk to some "dispatcher!" This is a free country and I can talk as loud as I want!... God, some people are so RUDE!
I find freedom more precious than free birth control pills, but maybe that's just me.
Yeah, why do we need rules on a 40 hour work week? Everyone follows that, there shouldn't be a law for it!
I hope you get an employer who considers, say, chemotherapy against their religion and this goes through. Oh, you have cancer? My religion says suck it up, so our coverage doesn't cover treatments. Is that "freedom"?
"...No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise..."
And that's where the quote falls apart today... Democracy! The magic panacea! Meh. I'll take a benevolent dictatorship over this democracy crap any day of the week. (The trick, of course, is defining 'benevolent.')
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And what they should get is prison if their child dies as a result.
Because Vishnu knows the one thing we need more of in this country is people in prison...
And it'd be nice if the government didn't have to make laws on workplace safety. Or make laws about not including toxic chemicals in toys, paint or water pipes. Or making theft and murder a crime.
Because keeping your employees healthy and alive is the right thing to do. So is not intentionally or carelessly poisoning people. So is not stealing and killing.
Sometimes the law has to enforce the right thing to do because people cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
By that logic, the government has no right to mandate the amount of lead in your water pipes or paint or the sanitary conditions of a processing plant.
You had me up to "...under optimum conditions by a competent and alert driver."
Define "competent and alert driver"
I mean, lets turn your argument around. You say it's OK because obviously the TSA is awesome and let it on the plane to start with, so obviously t came with a passenger. Great then, since now we "know" it was brought on by someone who went through TSA - WHY DID THEY LEAVE IT?
I mean, why on earth would someone who carefully constructed such a thing leave it behind? That makes no sense either, in fact even less sense to me. I would be pretty concerned if I saw that because anyone who had the skills to build such a thing obviously would care about it very much and have the intelligence not to forget they had it. I would be more prone to think something like that left behind was nefarious in purpose exactly because it had been left and forgotten.
Clearly you have never heard about the dozens of expensive musical instruments, including Strads, that are forgotten on trains, cabs, planes... I mean these things are not only worth hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, but, more importantly, they are the life blood of the musician. Without their instrument, they cannot perform.
People forget stuff All. The. Time. So your clever attempt at turning around the argument fails by simply looking at human nature.
Well, if the flight crew is freaking out, then either the TSA let it through or gave it the OK because it's ON THE PLANE.
Either the TSA's useless (for letting a bomb go through)
or the flight crew's panicking (for assuming the TSA let a bomb go through).
Ahh, a "theory (scientific) vs theory (layman)" debate.
But, then again, particle physics simply 'requires' 5 sigma of confidence (7 9s I believe?). I can't say whether Rybka's confidence is that good or not, but let's assume for the sake of argument, it is. Would the use of 'solve' still require quotes in that case? If it does, would you require every paper on quarks to be equally asterisked?
Technically particle physicists never see subatomic particles, they just see the results from collisions and work backward.
What's the difference?
Because...wait, what? The value of gold in 1800 would be the same as the value of gold in 2000 if we were on the gold standard?
Honestly? I'd be OK with that. No chance in hell it'd happen though, so I'll settle for killing the penny and reformulating the nickel.
When they have their exact change ready, yes. They are the BEST.
Ironically, those that are the worst are those, "Oh! I've got a dime around...here..." *rummages for a minute*. Unless you can get that coin in under 5 seconds, don't bother. We can make change for whatever you give us in that length of time. I'd rather break an even $20 on a $5.51 bill than have you dig for a penny if it takes you that long.
People who pay with exact change make window tellers VERY grateful. Dollar bills and pennies always ran low.
I got to the point I would also make piles of change ready for future cars, assuming they would pay entirely in bills. Such a time saver...
The catch is, if you do NOT have your exact change ready, don't dig for it. Just don't. I can break that $20 faster than you can dig out that quarter.
"20 years"?
Try "from time eternal." Inflation is a consequence of a perpetually growing economy. In of itself it's not a good thing or a bad thing. As long as other factors keep up, it just is. The US ditched the useless half-cent 150 years ago and we didn't devolve into an anarchistic Thunderdome... We'd survive losing the penny.
Oh please. When was the last 1980s penny you've seen? That's referring to dollar coins specifically.
(As if to mock me, the two coins in my wallet are a 1983 quarter and a 1985 dime. No pennies though!)
Phase II started over 150 years ago, then, when the half-cent was kicked to the curb.
It'll be as enforced as well as those carry-on templates in airports...
When did we start confusing 'liberty' for 'bad manners'?
I'd HOPE the majority doesn't consider that impolite. You'd likely be off the phone well before people realize you were even on it.
Because that person couldn't hear the call anyway because Aunt Bessie's corgi has asthma and she had to take it to the vet and it cut into her bridge game and she was about to win against that impossible skank Dolores the Applebee's manager who refused a refund on some disgustingly awful soup I think it was minestrone but maybe it was chicken noodle, but anyway, we're not going back to that Applebee's and we also called the regional office to tell them how awful Dolores is not that they'll do anything, I bet she sleeps with her boss, the skank, anyway the corgi is...hold on, will you shut up about your chest pains and difficulty breathing?! Can't you see I'm on a VERY IMPORTANT call?! The world doesn't revolve around you!!...so the corgi is fine now, but they have to take her in next month as a check up and I'm worried, damnit...No, I will not be quiet so you can talk to some "dispatcher!" This is a free country and I can talk as loud as I want!... God, some people are so RUDE!
I was about to say, "Yeah, but that doesn't really roll off the tongue."
However, on /., that does actually work.
I find freedom more precious than free birth control pills, but maybe that's just me.
Yeah, why do we need rules on a 40 hour work week? Everyone follows that, there shouldn't be a law for it!
I hope you get an employer who considers, say, chemotherapy against their religion and this goes through. Oh, you have cancer? My religion says suck it up, so our coverage doesn't cover treatments. Is that "freedom"?
"...No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise..."
And that's where the quote falls apart today... Democracy! The magic panacea!
Meh. I'll take a benevolent dictatorship over this democracy crap any day of the week. (The trick, of course, is defining 'benevolent.')
The Koch Brothers, Michael Bloomberg and Sheldon Adelson are all billionaires too.
Maybe it's the $35 billion mark?...
Seriously. Sick and tired of him... It's Yee's baby, he should bloody well pay for the mess it made.
You're not that well versed with earthquakes are you...