It's kind of hard for the mechanic to know what to do when everything is computerized, and he's locked out of the terminal. Imagine trying to configure a computer without being able to log in to it. That's what these independent shops are up against.
Hmmm, thinking........
I know, how about closing the ones you're not using? Don't tell me you're using them all. Seriously, tab grouping is a really bad idea. Leave my tabs alone.
I did a double take when I heard that on 24.:) I've been living and breathing CIP for the past two years. I wish there were such a thing as a CIP device; a black box that you just drop in to the network that magically makes your organization CIP compliant. It sure would make my job a lot easier. In all seriousness though it really seems to be more about creating the illusion of security rather than actually making systems more secure. It's totally political, and only marginally productive in my opinion anyway.
Yes, you're doing just great. In fact, you're best off not to make any controversial comment, or contribute to the conversation in any way that might cause people to think. Doing this will result in bad karma, and you will be modded down so no one has to think about what you said.
"The instant someone jumps off a cliff and dies, a thousand people will go back to their desks, do the math again and figure out where the calculations went wrong."
There enlies the problem though. They don't go back and do the math again instead prefering to explain it away as an annomile. Evolutionary theory is more like "we said it's this way and that's it. Any evidence to the contrary is not to be considered because of x,y, and z."
How do you explain discoveries that prove that at least some of what the Bible has said is true? How do you reconcile the fact that the same basic belief has been passed down for over 2000 years? How can you trust some theory so completely when it's full of holes? How do you explain our inability to duplicate the creation of the universe if we are so sure we know how it was created? How you explain blindly accepting assumptions as fact? How do you know that all of evidence being considered gives you all of the pieces of the puzzle to draw an accurate conclusion from?
You're so sure of yourself, and yet unable to see that you really don't know anything for sure. You have faith. Your faith is in science, and that those responsible for documenting their findings have the utmost integrity, and no motivation for dishonesty. I do not share that faith, but I understand the draw. Please refrain from trying to convince me that you have all of the answers though. Especially if you're going to talk about what Jesus did or didn't do. The Bible says that He divided the fishes and loaves so that everyone had enough to eat. Nowhere does it say that He pulled them out of thin air. There are many other stories like that as well where a little was stretched to go as far as necessary due to prayer and faith. Just because you don't believe in it doesn't make it false. Part of wisdom is knowing that you don't know everything and being open enough to receive instruction from others, or at least smart enough to hear them out before making a decision.
Well I can see that you've reached the utmost state of hightened enlighenment, so carry on then.
Do you really think it would be a plesent experience to watch my fellow man burn in hell just because they don't believe what I do? All this without even knowing who I am, or anything about me. I care because the Bible teaches that God does not want anyone to go to hell. I also care because something I believe is inherently BS is being crammed down the throats of our children as fact. I don't know for a fact that God is real. I wasn't there when He created the earth. But you don't know He's not either. I believe. Just like you believe in what you've been told. One of us has been lied to. I'll live my life accordingly, and if I'm wrong I'll gladly concede when I die and it all comes to not. If you happen to be wrong, you might have a bit more to worry about than I will, but hey life's all about choices and I'm all about letting others make their own.
Is it really so hard to understand that scientists espousing evolution as all it purports itself to be might not be all together altruistic? Think about it. Man (and subsequently woman, when I say man I mean mankind as a whole) wants to do what he wants. If God doesn't exist there is no problem with that. So a scientist (who is a member of mankind) might set out to prove God does not exist by intentionally interpreting their findings in a way that supports their theory. There have been many examples of this in the so called evidence of evolution. Now I'm not saying that evolution as a whole does not have factual elements. I know there are some species that have changed over time, and if you look at it purely from that perspective then yes that's fine. However, that's not what is being taught in school. In high school I was told that my religious upbringing was a crock, and that a big bang created all of us. Never mind that it's never happened since, or that there is no proof that it ever happened at all. Never mind that while I've never seen God I've certainly felt His presence, seen Him answer prayer, and watched Him transform self serving jerks into selfless wonders of creation. Never mind that if I stick an M80 in a mailbox all I get is a mess (I've yet to see it create new life). Because some scientist dreamed up this theory, and gathered enough so called evidence we're going to go ahead and call that the truth. If you ask questions you get answers like "if you don't believe in this then you're just stupid". Well ok then call me stupid if it makes you feel better, but it still doesn't explain your position, and quite frankly makes you look stupid. If your argument isn't persuasive enough to withstand serious scrutiny, and we have to enshrine it in glass to protect it, perhaps it's not as solid as you'd like to think.
Why should evolution be beyond question? It certainly isn't fact, and it shouldn't be taught as such. If the whole world believes that you can jump off a cliff without harm does that make it true? Maybe if enough evolutionist try it over time they will develop spring loaded legs. It's amazing to me that the circular logic that is used to defend one position is precisely what is used to discredit the other side. You don't believe in creation? Fine. The Bible has survived over 2000 years, and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that it's far more than an old book of stories. But don't tell me that your so called evidence is any more credible than my belief. There have been plenty of misconceptions, deceptions, and outright lies surrounding evolution over the years. It's the religion of choice among athiests. I'd rather not have my children subjected to it, and I know I'm not alone. This idea that because scientists say it's true that we have to blindly accept it is just as dangerous as blindly accepting any other ideology. What makes evolution so special?
I love that idea, but the problem with suing the government is that they get their money from us. So when they get sued they just pass on the costs acordingly. I'd much prefer that they deduct it from the decision maker's pension / pay. That would ensure that the tax payers don't wind up footing the bill for their incompetence.
What a terrible idea. I'd like to politely invite you to STFU. If there is one thing we don't need it's more legislation. You must work in law enforcement. Or insurance perhaps? Those are the only two entities that actually benefit from such ideas. Why don't you get a life and go work for a living like everyone else. If vehicles are designed to be safer at higher speeds then we ought to be safer. All you really need to do at this point is convince people it's a bad idea to push it beyond what is safe. Something easily accomplished with education rather than draconian federal regulation.
Or maybe you live in:
Boise, ID
LA, CA
Seattle, WA
Phoenix, AZ
or...
It's that way in every major city I've ever driven in.
A common problem I see here (Boise, ID) is everyone wants to be first, and then when they are they want to sit on the phone and drive 10 mph below the speed limit. We don't need safty features to protect these guys. What we need is vehicles equiped with laser beams to eliminate them.
While it's true you can't shadow them 24/7, you also can't just leave them to their own devices. I saw plenty of kids that were raised this way, and the results were not what I would call positive. If you instill a strong understanding of right and wrong, and a healthy fear of undesirable reprocussions from an early age you'll be far ahead of the game. You won't have to worry (as much) about the impending knock on the door when you're kid hasn't be around for several days. My perspective growing up was that you don't do anything that's going to hurt someone else (getting a girl pregnent falls into this category), don't take / damage anything that isn't yours, and don't do anything that would cause the police to bring you home (or worse yet keep you). Does that mean the I never did any of the above? Of course not, but I knew what the consequences would be. That aided in making decisions that prevented me from getting in to really serious trouble. There's a balance to be struck.
Filtering software isn't going to keep them from seeing porn. What it will do is keep them from stumbling across it accidentally. I use ISA server with a white list for my kids. Call it due dilligence.
Sorry, didn't mean to be confusing. If you hire someone to clean your house, do you keep paying them when they no longer clean your house? If you do, I'd like to come and work for you. Think about it this way: if you work for an employer, will the employer continue to pay you if they go out of business? The answer is no. You get laid off. MS is essentially expecting MCPs to continue to pay for the contract obligations of companies that go out of business just because they were the ones that originally acted as a middleman for MS. It's not really fair to begin with, but then when you consider the enormous expense of software in contrast to the profit margin on selling software it's not hard to see how this is going to drive these MCP guys out of business. Underhanded might be the wrong word, but it's certainly not a fair arangement, and it does nothing to promote MS as a company. In the short term they gain the money for these contracts, but if they drive the people out of business that are selling for them they are essentially killing their future sales. Way to go MS!! It seems for MS "partner" means you take all the risk, and we'll take all the profit. If that's the case, I'd rather work independently to "sell" Linux, and tell MS to stick their partnership.
Well with corn you are talking about something tangible, that will go bad if not used in a specified time frame. With software, once the business is gone, it's not being used anymore. MCPs were foolish to agree to such conditions, but MS is also beyond underhanded in making such demands. It seems reasonable to me that if I sell your software for you on a three year basis, and the company goes out of business then you ought not be screwing me for the remainder of the contract, or I'm going to stop selling your software for you. Which is what is happening as it rightly should.
"So do I, I'm very sure that there WAS a son of a carpenter who was wandering around the Middle East 2000 years ago, doing good deeds and preaching a culture of decent behaviour. That doesn't make him the son of some god."
Now Life of Brian was a funny movie, but I certainly wouldn't take it as my personal philosophy.
You're correct when you say that His actions on earth alone did not make Him the son of God. However, the religious leaders at the time felt threatened by Him because He pointed out their true motivations, and had Him crucified by Pontius Pilot who knew He was innocent. Pilot just didn't want to take the political heat for doing the right thing. Jesus died as an innocent, and His crucifixion wasn't your average everyday run of the mill punishment. People were crucified for their crimes all the time. But in His case they literally beat, and tortured Him (an innocent man). God raised Him from the dead after 3 days. This is something else that didn't happen every day. The only ones that have ever refuted this are the Israelites, who (surprise, surprise) were the ones that were trying to suppress His message in the first place. No, the life, death, and resurrection of Christ were far from average. They were unprecedented, and they were predicted in Isaiah.
2000 years later we are still finding evidence that supports Biblical history. I've had people try to convince me of all sorts of silliness over the years. I wouldn't just believe anything, but I do believe in the Bible because as I see it the evidence supporting it is far more compelling than the evidence against it.
I know it's a bit hard to swallow that our sins are forgiven because of that. In my youth it raised a lot of questions for me. If God is loving why would He let his son go through that? Furthermore, why does He allow the terribly bad things that happen in the world? How does His dying a righteous death absolve me of my wrong doing? Why would God do that for me? Through the years I've come to the conclusion that God wants us to love Him. He also wants us to do it freely. The people who go around trying to beat others over the head and trying to force God on them when God Himself wouldn't do that have in my opinion got it all wrong. If God wouldn't force me to love Him, how could I force anyone else to? He wants our devotion, but it has to be our choice. Therefore if we choose to do evil, He will allow it for a time. I have noticed though, with those that are just bent on hurting others, they don't get far. Something happens to either cause them to change, or they are neutralized in some fashion. He doesn't want anyone to go to hell, but if we choose to do it, it's our choice and He will allow it.
Was this ever in doubt?? I happen to believe in Jesus Christ. If you don't then I might try to explain why I believe what I believe, but you have the freedom to believe whatever you want to. It's always been that way. This notion that we need to remove all aspects of religious expression to satisfy a minority of individuals that don't want to even think about the posibility that they might be wrong is completely misguided. It's the opposite of freedom when you really stop and think about it. If you don't believe in the same things I do, and you're convinced that there is nothing there then why do you care? Call me nuts (God knows many have), and go on your merry way.
As far as I know there has always been separation of church and state. Never in the history of America has any president said "this is my church, and therefore the only acceptable church to attend". You do know that was what the separation of church and state was designed to prevent don't you? It was never intended to be used to eliminate all public expression of faith.
Oh, ok then. Can we say the same for all of the anti-christian rhetoric? "Please just hush up and keep your opinions to yourself, hmmm?? How about all the people who actually supported Bush and believed what he did was not wrong? Can we finally dispense with their BS as well? Funny how all of the sudden progressives just want to get along. Of course you do. When things are going your way.
Yes, but there are those of us who believe the majority of We the People have been duped by this nice fuzzy little bear called change. Unfortunately, most people who voted for him did so because of what that change meant to them rather than what it meant to him. It's a minor detail, but I'm sure it will become clear in the days ahead.
We do it here. I'm currently working a 4-10s schedule, and I like it better. Sure, the days are longer, but I have every Friday off. It's nice in the summer time because I can go camping on a Thursday after work with the family, spend all day Friday hiking and fishing, and leave Saturday afternoon when it's starting to get crowded. Then I still have Sunday to rest. It's perfect.
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It's kind of hard for the mechanic to know what to do when everything is computerized, and he's locked out of the terminal. Imagine trying to configure a computer without being able to log in to it. That's what these independent shops are up against.
An array of 40 floppy drives? Now that would be quite a sight. Got any pics?
Hmmm, thinking........ I know, how about closing the ones you're not using? Don't tell me you're using them all. Seriously, tab grouping is a really bad idea. Leave my tabs alone.
I'm sure he spends all his time worying about what slashdot thinks about him (um, not). Gimme a break.
I did a double take when I heard that on 24. :) I've been living and breathing CIP for the past two years. I wish there were such a thing as a CIP device; a black box that you just drop in to the network that magically makes your organization CIP compliant. It sure would make my job a lot easier. In all seriousness though it really seems to be more about creating the illusion of security rather than actually making systems more secure. It's totally political, and only marginally productive in my opinion anyway.
Yes, you're doing just great. In fact, you're best off not to make any controversial comment, or contribute to the conversation in any way that might cause people to think. Doing this will result in bad karma, and you will be modded down so no one has to think about what you said.
There enlies the problem though. They don't go back and do the math again instead prefering to explain it away as an annomile. Evolutionary theory is more like "we said it's this way and that's it. Any evidence to the contrary is not to be considered because of x,y, and z."
How do you explain discoveries that prove that at least some of what the Bible has said is true? How do you reconcile the fact that the same basic belief has been passed down for over 2000 years? How can you trust some theory so completely when it's full of holes? How do you explain our inability to duplicate the creation of the universe if we are so sure we know how it was created? How you explain blindly accepting assumptions as fact? How do you know that all of evidence being considered gives you all of the pieces of the puzzle to draw an accurate conclusion from?
You're so sure of yourself, and yet unable to see that you really don't know anything for sure. You have faith. Your faith is in science, and that those responsible for documenting their findings have the utmost integrity, and no motivation for dishonesty. I do not share that faith, but I understand the draw. Please refrain from trying to convince me that you have all of the answers though. Especially if you're going to talk about what Jesus did or didn't do. The Bible says that He divided the fishes and loaves so that everyone had enough to eat. Nowhere does it say that He pulled them out of thin air. There are many other stories like that as well where a little was stretched to go as far as necessary due to prayer and faith. Just because you don't believe in it doesn't make it false. Part of wisdom is knowing that you don't know everything and being open enough to receive instruction from others, or at least smart enough to hear them out before making a decision.
Well I can see that you've reached the utmost state of hightened enlighenment, so carry on then.
Do you really think it would be a plesent experience to watch my fellow man burn in hell just because they don't believe what I do? All this without even knowing who I am, or anything about me. I care because the Bible teaches that God does not want anyone to go to hell. I also care because something I believe is inherently BS is being crammed down the throats of our children as fact. I don't know for a fact that God is real. I wasn't there when He created the earth. But you don't know He's not either. I believe. Just like you believe in what you've been told. One of us has been lied to. I'll live my life accordingly, and if I'm wrong I'll gladly concede when I die and it all comes to not. If you happen to be wrong, you might have a bit more to worry about than I will, but hey life's all about choices and I'm all about letting others make their own.
Is it really so hard to understand that scientists espousing evolution as all it purports itself to be might not be all together altruistic? Think about it. Man (and subsequently woman, when I say man I mean mankind as a whole) wants to do what he wants. If God doesn't exist there is no problem with that. So a scientist (who is a member of mankind) might set out to prove God does not exist by intentionally interpreting their findings in a way that supports their theory. There have been many examples of this in the so called evidence of evolution. Now I'm not saying that evolution as a whole does not have factual elements. I know there are some species that have changed over time, and if you look at it purely from that perspective then yes that's fine. However, that's not what is being taught in school. In high school I was told that my religious upbringing was a crock, and that a big bang created all of us. Never mind that it's never happened since, or that there is no proof that it ever happened at all. Never mind that while I've never seen God I've certainly felt His presence, seen Him answer prayer, and watched Him transform self serving jerks into selfless wonders of creation. Never mind that if I stick an M80 in a mailbox all I get is a mess (I've yet to see it create new life). Because some scientist dreamed up this theory, and gathered enough so called evidence we're going to go ahead and call that the truth. If you ask questions you get answers like "if you don't believe in this then you're just stupid". Well ok then call me stupid if it makes you feel better, but it still doesn't explain your position, and quite frankly makes you look stupid. If your argument isn't persuasive enough to withstand serious scrutiny, and we have to enshrine it in glass to protect it, perhaps it's not as solid as you'd like to think.
Yeah, go ahead and flag me as flamebait rather than engage in intelligent discussion. And you wonder why we question the validity of your beliefs.
Why should evolution be beyond question? It certainly isn't fact, and it shouldn't be taught as such. If the whole world believes that you can jump off a cliff without harm does that make it true? Maybe if enough evolutionist try it over time they will develop spring loaded legs. It's amazing to me that the circular logic that is used to defend one position is precisely what is used to discredit the other side. You don't believe in creation? Fine. The Bible has survived over 2000 years, and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that it's far more than an old book of stories. But don't tell me that your so called evidence is any more credible than my belief. There have been plenty of misconceptions, deceptions, and outright lies surrounding evolution over the years. It's the religion of choice among athiests. I'd rather not have my children subjected to it, and I know I'm not alone. This idea that because scientists say it's true that we have to blindly accept it is just as dangerous as blindly accepting any other ideology. What makes evolution so special?
Well.... I think you pretty much covered it. End of discussion.
I love that idea, but the problem with suing the government is that they get their money from us. So when they get sued they just pass on the costs acordingly. I'd much prefer that they deduct it from the decision maker's pension / pay. That would ensure that the tax payers don't wind up footing the bill for their incompetence.
What a terrible idea. I'd like to politely invite you to STFU. If there is one thing we don't need it's more legislation. You must work in law enforcement. Or insurance perhaps? Those are the only two entities that actually benefit from such ideas. Why don't you get a life and go work for a living like everyone else. If vehicles are designed to be safer at higher speeds then we ought to be safer. All you really need to do at this point is convince people it's a bad idea to push it beyond what is safe. Something easily accomplished with education rather than draconian federal regulation.
Or maybe you live in: Boise, ID LA, CA Seattle, WA Phoenix, AZ or... It's that way in every major city I've ever driven in. A common problem I see here (Boise, ID) is everyone wants to be first, and then when they are they want to sit on the phone and drive 10 mph below the speed limit. We don't need safty features to protect these guys. What we need is vehicles equiped with laser beams to eliminate them.
Build a electric fence. They work wonders. Fixed that for you. Otherwise they just climb over.
While it's true you can't shadow them 24/7, you also can't just leave them to their own devices. I saw plenty of kids that were raised this way, and the results were not what I would call positive. If you instill a strong understanding of right and wrong, and a healthy fear of undesirable reprocussions from an early age you'll be far ahead of the game. You won't have to worry (as much) about the impending knock on the door when you're kid hasn't be around for several days. My perspective growing up was that you don't do anything that's going to hurt someone else (getting a girl pregnent falls into this category), don't take / damage anything that isn't yours, and don't do anything that would cause the police to bring you home (or worse yet keep you). Does that mean the I never did any of the above? Of course not, but I knew what the consequences would be. That aided in making decisions that prevented me from getting in to really serious trouble. There's a balance to be struck.
Filtering software isn't going to keep them from seeing porn. What it will do is keep them from stumbling across it accidentally. I use ISA server with a white list for my kids. Call it due dilligence.
Sorry, didn't mean to be confusing. If you hire someone to clean your house, do you keep paying them when they no longer clean your house? If you do, I'd like to come and work for you. Think about it this way: if you work for an employer, will the employer continue to pay you if they go out of business? The answer is no. You get laid off. MS is essentially expecting MCPs to continue to pay for the contract obligations of companies that go out of business just because they were the ones that originally acted as a middleman for MS. It's not really fair to begin with, but then when you consider the enormous expense of software in contrast to the profit margin on selling software it's not hard to see how this is going to drive these MCP guys out of business. Underhanded might be the wrong word, but it's certainly not a fair arangement, and it does nothing to promote MS as a company. In the short term they gain the money for these contracts, but if they drive the people out of business that are selling for them they are essentially killing their future sales. Way to go MS!! It seems for MS "partner" means you take all the risk, and we'll take all the profit. If that's the case, I'd rather work independently to "sell" Linux, and tell MS to stick their partnership.
Well with corn you are talking about something tangible, that will go bad if not used in a specified time frame.
With software, once the business is gone, it's not being used anymore. MCPs were foolish to agree to such conditions,
but MS is also beyond underhanded in making such demands. It seems reasonable to me that if I sell your software for
you on a three year basis, and the company goes out of business then you ought not be screwing me for the remainder of the contract, or I'm going to stop selling your software for you. Which is what is happening as it rightly should.
In other words, par for the course around here.
You think that's bad??? I'm still waiting for my CHANGE!!!
"So do I, I'm very sure that there WAS a son of a carpenter who was wandering around the Middle East 2000 years ago, doing good deeds and preaching a culture of decent behaviour. That doesn't make him the son of some god." Now Life of Brian was a funny movie, but I certainly wouldn't take it as my personal philosophy. You're correct when you say that His actions on earth alone did not make Him the son of God. However, the religious leaders at the time felt threatened by Him because He pointed out their true motivations, and had Him crucified by Pontius Pilot who knew He was innocent. Pilot just didn't want to take the political heat for doing the right thing. Jesus died as an innocent, and His crucifixion wasn't your average everyday run of the mill punishment. People were crucified for their crimes all the time. But in His case they literally beat, and tortured Him (an innocent man). God raised Him from the dead after 3 days. This is something else that didn't happen every day. The only ones that have ever refuted this are the Israelites, who (surprise, surprise) were the ones that were trying to suppress His message in the first place. No, the life, death, and resurrection of Christ were far from average. They were unprecedented, and they were predicted in Isaiah. 2000 years later we are still finding evidence that supports Biblical history. I've had people try to convince me of all sorts of silliness over the years. I wouldn't just believe anything, but I do believe in the Bible because as I see it the evidence supporting it is far more compelling than the evidence against it. I know it's a bit hard to swallow that our sins are forgiven because of that. In my youth it raised a lot of questions for me. If God is loving why would He let his son go through that? Furthermore, why does He allow the terribly bad things that happen in the world? How does His dying a righteous death absolve me of my wrong doing? Why would God do that for me? Through the years I've come to the conclusion that God wants us to love Him. He also wants us to do it freely. The people who go around trying to beat others over the head and trying to force God on them when God Himself wouldn't do that have in my opinion got it all wrong. If God wouldn't force me to love Him, how could I force anyone else to? He wants our devotion, but it has to be our choice. Therefore if we choose to do evil, He will allow it for a time. I have noticed though, with those that are just bent on hurting others, they don't get far. Something happens to either cause them to change, or they are neutralized in some fashion. He doesn't want anyone to go to hell, but if we choose to do it, it's our choice and He will allow it.
Was this ever in doubt?? I happen to believe in Jesus Christ. If you don't then I might try to explain why I believe what I believe, but you have the freedom to believe whatever you want to. It's always been that way. This notion that we need to remove all aspects of religious expression to satisfy a minority of individuals that don't want to even think about the posibility that they might be wrong is completely misguided. It's the opposite of freedom when you really stop and think about it. If you don't believe in the same things I do, and you're convinced that there is nothing there then why do you care? Call me nuts (God knows many have), and go on your merry way. As far as I know there has always been separation of church and state. Never in the history of America has any president said "this is my church, and therefore the only acceptable church to attend". You do know that was what the separation of church and state was designed to prevent don't you? It was never intended to be used to eliminate all public expression of faith.
Oh, ok then. Can we say the same for all of the anti-christian rhetoric? "Please just hush up and keep your opinions to yourself, hmmm?? How about all the people who actually supported Bush and believed what he did was not wrong? Can we finally dispense with their BS as well? Funny how all of the sudden progressives just want to get along. Of course you do. When things are going your way.
Yes, but there are those of us who believe the majority of We the People have been duped by this nice fuzzy little bear called change. Unfortunately, most people who voted for him did so because of what that change meant to them rather than what it meant to him. It's a minor detail, but I'm sure it will become clear in the days ahead.
We do it here. I'm currently working a 4-10s schedule, and I like it better. Sure, the days are longer, but I have every Friday off. It's nice in the summer time because I can go camping on a Thursday after work with the family, spend all day Friday hiking and fishing, and leave Saturday afternoon when it's starting to get crowded. Then I still have Sunday to rest. It's perfect.