Have you seen the radios in Fords the Last couple years? Try putting your own radio in one of those without redesigning the dash. Go on I dare ya. 98 Lite works just fine for me.
Yes napster can be used illegally, so can almost anything else in existence. If Napster is making the effort to prevent distribution of copyrighted music, which from what I've heard, they are. LEAVE THEM ALONE
Link please? How are they going to do this? Don't post without facts to back up a statement like that.
Microsoft is trying to help open source(I heard they may open-source windows) LEAVE THEM ALONE.
While you may have impressed yourself with the length of your post, you have failed to provide any evidence at all to support your thesis. You aren't going to convince me until you produce concrete evidence underlying your assertion that Napster's sole purpose is to circumvent copyright laws.
He need to, the proof that Napster's MAIN purpose is to circumvent copyright laws can be found in the use of Napster. Do a seach for any popular band and you will find hundreds if not thousands of illegal MP3. Now I'm no hypocrite. I download all sorts of stuff from Napster, legal or illegal, oh well I don't care. What the Poster was talking about was slashdot hypocrisy. This is evident in just about every story that is posted, and is all the proof you need. You basically responded to nothing. You should be moderated down as your post was worthless and devoid of any point relating to the previous post.
The only 'artists' that will be affected are groups like the "Back Street Boys", which is really some sort of corporate clown act. I wish muscicians had to work for their money, there would be more concerts and choice.
Another notable corporate clown act, The Beatles. (Note I am not comparing the talent of Backstreet to the beatles, only their way of being pushed on listeners.) With regards to musicians having to work for their money, I seem to have forgotten just about every band out there that tours and plays for NO money untill they finally get a record deal of some kind that allows them to make any money. Why don't you ask the hair bands of the 80's how much money they got paid for a gig before they got a contract? Why don't you ask Limp Bizkit or Korn how much they were making per gig before they were on MTV? How about you call up Zach De La Rocha and ask him about how easy it was to pay the rent when he was in Inside Out?(his first band) For every band that is created by the music industry they are a 1000 that are sweating at perfecting their sound and creating a fan base.
Had an M$ OS on your first computer? My point being is that would the community be as large as it is today without Microsoft putting computers into as many homes as it has? Granted they have created a million leet script-kiddies but don't think that they haven't helped bring out a lot of real programmers as well. In fact If you bought your first computer (Or your parents bought for you:P) after say 96, and they wanted to spend less then a grand, I would say with a lot of certainty that you got WIN95 (In all it's bsod glory). I mean you didn't walk into Best Buy with your mom and say "oh gee MS is everywhere it must be bad, hey lets go download an operating system from sunsite instead."
Point being, Microsoft for all it's faults has probably been the biggest boon to the movement since Linus himself. Deal with it Katz.
And what does MS have to do with genetic research anyway? Are we waiting for Microsoft Genome 2000? -Marc
The above comment is not a troll. I have yet to see anyone in this dicussion give a valid reason to use Linux in a thin client environment. In fact it is painfully obvious that most people who have posted here have absolutely no idea what a thin client is, or have never worked in an industrial environment that requires the use of specialized hardware such as barcode scanners.
If they're switching OSes just because they can't write a few drivers for bar-code readers, there's something very wrong with the company.
Just to clear some things up, Wyse doesn't write the drivers for these "obscure products" and neither does MS. I don't know if you have ever used an industrial barcode reader or set one up, but the setup is incredibly important. You can't have ANY inaccuracies in a scanner when you have a line of people mixing chemicals, especially if the wrong mixture can start a fire.
In fact, I'm sure some bands would pay to have their songs played over the radio.
In fact they already do, classic example being the Beatles, a more current example being Limp Bizkit. What's funny is that in LB's case their Label actually paid for their airtime. This is an interesting turn of events.
As I was sitting reading this article in my office, a coworker came up to me and asked what DMCA was. He is a programmer and computer musician, but does not spend hordes of time on the net. I explained the basics of the DMCA and he was outraged. He in turn is now going to start letting his musician friends know about it. This is what's most important about this kind of protest. It generates news. Not just "news for nerds" but news for everyone who is somewhat affected by this. Thank you slashdot for not letting a story like this die.
As a group we all need to be active in getting information about the DMCA out, not just bitching about it here (Don't get me wrong I get a lot of good arguments from postings here). But we also need to be explaining this to non-technical people (I got in a long discussion with my Uncle, he was absolutely horrified).
Spread the word people,it's our most powerful weapon!
As long as they get away with it, that is as long as nobody detects the Jag as stolen or the Picasso as a fake, why can't they?
If they get caught the auction house is liable and could be shut down (there are laws about this kind of activity). Obviously this is not impossible, but that doesn't make it legal.
This TOS seems to be absolving them from getting sued if someone gets ripped off. But if I let someone sell crack out of my house, I can go to jail. Even if I have a disclaimer.
No no no not my point at all, I simply meant that non-US companies can't be held to our laws in situation X. There is simply nothing we can do about a company selling bootleg items out of for in most cases, they may not have the same copyright/trademark laws. You seem to be implying that if a company doesn't reside in the US they should be less constrained to obey laws. Insert the word "our" in between obey and laws. -marc
Do we think auction sites should be liable for their content? Is this like ISPs being liable for what users download or read? I don't think so. "Real" auction sites have sets of laws that they must follow (e.g. Sotheby's couldn't auction a stolen 1957 Jaguar, or a counterfeit Picasso as a real Picasso). This may seem an extreme example, but the idea behind it is the same. While the freedom of the internet is important, that shouldn't mean absolute lawlessnes, ESPECIALLY if a company resides in the US. Just because they are online does not nake them some higher entity that can do no evil. -Marc
Go, right now, and buy a copy of the Beastie Boy's "Pauls' Boutique" album. Listen to it every day for the next three weeks, and then come back and post that again.
I don't think that is what he is talking about. Besides the fact that Pauls ( a classic album) is over ten years old, the Beasties were not, and never will be a part of the braindead sample based mediums that the poster was talking about. Instead take a listen to the INCREDIBLE amount of techno/house/jungle/trip/acid/crap that is being released out of peoples basements. This is the real problem he is referring to, and this is propagated by these cheap simple software packages. Actual Conversation Me--> What do you do here? CalArts Student--> Oh I want to be a rock star. Me--> So why are you here? CalArts Student--> Well I'm in L.A. and my friend is getting a hacked copy of ProTools so I can put out a Pro album. Me--> What's the music like? CalArts--> I haven't written it yet.
You sound like you probably already know this but just in case... Have you used CSound and SuperCollider? Yes I know they are not exactly the same thing but creating synth from a programming standpoint is hella fun, and similar to Ample.
Well as far as copyrights are concerned, the second you record any song or WRITE DOWN any lyrics, they are copyrighted. This applies to all forms of recording including digital.
This was a technology created by RCA and was a competitor to laserdiscs. It sucked.:) Laserdiscs ruled when you didn't have to flip them over. I remember having an Iron Maiden Run to the Hills/The Trooper Video Disc.
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Have you seen the radios in Fords the Last couple years? Try putting your own radio in one of those without redesigning the dash. Go on I dare ya. 98 Lite works just fine for me.
Any tips as where to find this? I'm a big Beowulf fan.
Link please? How are they going to do this? Don't post without facts to back up a statement like that.
Microsoft is trying to help open source(I heard they may open-source windows) LEAVE THEM ALONE.
He need to, the proof that Napster's MAIN purpose is to circumvent copyright laws can be found in the use of Napster. Do a seach for any popular band and you will find hundreds if not thousands of illegal MP3. Now I'm no hypocrite. I download all sorts of stuff from Napster, legal or illegal, oh well I don't care. What the Poster was talking about was slashdot hypocrisy. This is evident in just about every story that is posted, and is all the proof you need. You basically responded to nothing. You should be moderated down as your post was worthless and devoid of any point relating to the previous post.
Try reading the entire post before you spout off.
Another notable corporate clown act, The Beatles. (Note I am not comparing the talent of Backstreet to the beatles, only their way of being pushed on listeners.) With regards to musicians having to work for their money, I seem to have forgotten just about every band out there that tours and plays for NO money untill they finally get a record deal of some kind that allows them to make any money. Why don't you ask the hair bands of the 80's how much money they got paid for a gig before they got a contract? Why don't you ask Limp Bizkit or Korn how much they were making per gig before they were on MTV? How about you call up Zach De La Rocha and ask him about how easy it was to pay the rent when he was in Inside Out?(his first band) For every band that is created by the music industry they are a 1000 that are sweating at perfecting their sound and creating a fan base.
-Marc
This post is most definitely NOT flamebait. -Marc
Now for the obligatory on-topic response
My bad :D
Most Americans can get through a paragraph without using the word fuck 5 or 6 times. Most of us can also spell committee.
Now for the obligatoy on-topic response
Actually frivolous lawsuits are the result of our litigous society and people trying to get something for nothing.
Point being, Microsoft for all it's faults has probably been the biggest boon to the movement since Linus himself. Deal with it Katz.
And what does MS have to do with genetic research anyway? Are we waiting for Microsoft Genome 2000? -Marc
read this post please.
I think he stated it well.
Just to clear some things up, Wyse doesn't write the drivers for these "obscure products" and neither does MS. I don't know if you have ever used an industrial barcode reader or set one up, but the setup is incredibly important. You can't have ANY inaccuracies in a scanner when you have a line of people mixing chemicals, especially if the wrong mixture can start a fire.
In fact they already do, classic example being the Beatles, a more current example being Limp Bizkit. What's funny is that in LB's case their Label actually paid for their airtime. This is an interesting turn of events.
As a group we all need to be active in getting information about the DMCA out, not just bitching about it here (Don't get me wrong I get a lot of good arguments from postings here). But we also need to be explaining this to non-technical people (I got in a long discussion with my Uncle, he was absolutely horrified).
Spread the word people,it's our most powerful weapon!
If they get caught the auction house is liable and could be shut down (there are laws about this kind of activity). Obviously this is not impossible, but that doesn't make it legal.
-marc
This TOS seems to be absolving them from getting sued if someone gets ripped off. But if I let someone sell crack out of my house, I can go to jail. Even if I have a disclaimer.
-marc
gotta remember those html tags
Insert "non-US companies" between out of and for in most.
Sorry!
-Marc
No no no not my point at all, I simply meant that non-US companies can't be held to our laws in situation X. There is simply nothing we can do about a company selling bootleg items out of for in most cases, they may not have the same copyright/trademark laws. You seem to be implying that if a company doesn't reside in the US they should be less constrained to obey laws. Insert the word "our" in between obey and laws. -marc
Do we think auction sites should be liable for their content? Is this like ISPs being liable for what users download or read? I don't think so. "Real" auction sites have sets of laws that they must follow (e.g. Sotheby's couldn't auction a stolen 1957 Jaguar, or a counterfeit Picasso as a real Picasso). This may seem an extreme example, but the idea behind it is the same. While the freedom of the internet is important, that shouldn't mean absolute lawlessnes, ESPECIALLY if a company resides in the US. Just because they are online does not nake them some higher entity that can do no evil. -Marc
Wait a minute when I send spam stuff to abuse@apk.net or spam@apk.net I don't get crap back? (just to be a prick >:D)
Go, right now, and buy a copy of the Beastie Boy's "Pauls' Boutique" album. Listen to it every day for the next three weeks, and then come back and post that again.
I don't think that is what he is talking about. Besides the fact that Pauls ( a classic album) is over ten years old, the Beasties were not, and never will be a part of the braindead sample based mediums that the poster was talking about. Instead take a listen to the INCREDIBLE amount of techno/house/jungle/trip/acid/crap that is being released out of peoples basements. This is the real problem he is referring to, and this is propagated by these cheap simple software packages.
Actual Conversation
Me--> What do you do here?
CalArts Student--> Oh I want to be a rock star.
Me--> So why are you here?
CalArts Student--> Well I'm in L.A. and my friend is getting a hacked copy of ProTools so I can put out a Pro album.
Me--> What's the music like?
CalArts--> I haven't written it yet.
I thought he was kidding.
You sound like you probably already know this but just in case...
Have you used CSound and SuperCollider? Yes I know they are not exactly the same thing but creating synth from a programming standpoint is hella fun, and similar to Ample.
who owns words? who owns notes?
Well as far as copyrights are concerned, the second you record any song or WRITE DOWN any lyrics, they are copyrighted. This applies to all forms of recording including digital.
Check out line6 amps http://www.line6.com
or the new Crate digitals. Beautiful and close, very close.
Live after Death can only be appreciated on the double vinyl. You have to be able to hear Phantom of the Opera with Bruce's vibrato stylings. :)
This was a technology created by RCA and was a competitor to laserdiscs. It sucked. :)
Laserdiscs ruled when you didn't have to flip them over. I remember having an Iron Maiden Run to the Hills/The Trooper Video Disc.