Installing Linux on the computers of unwitting Windows users may be a dumb plot, but it's hardly terrorism. If it were, every goddamned user on Slashdot would be a terrorist for trying to wrest Windows from Granny's warm, wet hands.
Those here who have instalkled Linux on someone's machine without permission raise your hands. Nobody? That's what I thought.
Those here who have installed malware on some unwitting Windows user's machine to add to your spambotnet? You in the back, you're under arrest!
No, I fear what I KNOW. Of course, what one knows may in fact not be accurate. People fear that their kids will be killed by a school shooter despite the minimal actual danger, thanks to the american "journalists". I fear heights; but I broke both arms falling off a swingset when I was seven, so that fear is well founded. I don't fear polar bears despite how dangerous they are, because the only ones I've ever seen are in zoos.
No, using open-source as a villian is clearly propaganda. People don't fear open source - NOW. They may after seeing this piece of shit propaganda piece.
I think the GP merely misspelled "southern" and "American". Easy slip of the keyboard.;)
Not a lot of Americans complained about the Trail of Tears either.
Only the indigenous ones! Now that typo I can't understand; people talk of "native" Americans; well, I'm a native. I was born here. They should in fact say Indigenous Americans, if they're so pedantic that the word "Indians" won't do.
When a roadside bomb attacking military vehicles is "terrorism", the word has lost all meaning.
"Terrorism" was originally defined as violence against civilians to affect politics. How are actions against soldiers in any way considered "terrorism"? Yet the American government called the barracks bombing (pre-911, under Clinton IIRC) "terrorism" and the present terrorist-in-chief (if military actions against soldiers is terrorism then?) considers roadside bombs to be "terrorism", then as you say, the word has lost all meaning.
Yesterday's communist is today's terrorist. Anti Flag said it well in Anatomy of your enemy:
10 easy steps to create an enemy and start a war: Listen closely because we will all see this weapon used in our lives. It can be used on a society of the most ignorant to the most highly educated. We need to see their tactics as a weapon against humanity and not as truth.
First step: create the enemy. Sometimes this will be done for you.
Second step: be sure the enemy you have chosen is nothing like you. Find obvious differences like race, language, religion, dietary habits fashion. Emphasize that their soldiers are not doing a job, they are heartless murderers who enjoy killing!
Third step: Once these differences are established continue to reinforce them with all disseminated information.
Fourth step: Have the media broadcast only the ruling party's information
Iron Man anti-open source movie, anyone? Remember, this is an American movie, and the multinational corporations own and control the US government
this can be done through state run media. Remember, in times of conflict all for-profit media repeats the ruling party's information. Therefore all for-profit media becomes state-run.
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different. Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
Sixth step: Eliminate opposition to the ruling party. Create an "Us versus Them" mentality. Leave no room for opinions in between. One that does not support all actions of the ruling party should be considered a traitor.
Seventh step: Use nationalistic and/or religious symbols and rhetoric to define all actions. This can be achieved by slogans such as "freedom loving people versus those who hate freedom." This can also be achieved by the use of flags.
Eighth step: Align all actions with the dominant deity. It is very effective to use terms like, "It is god's will" or "god bless our nation."
Ninth step: Design propaganda to show that your soldiers have feelings, hopes, families, and loved ones. Make it clear that your soldiers are doing a duty; they do not want or like to kill.
Tenth step: Create and atmosphere of fear, and instability and then offer the ruling party as the only solutions to comfort the public's fears. Remembering the fear of the unknown is always the strongest fear.
I remember the "duck and cover" drills. The tactics would be competely useless if there was an atomic explosion, it had no purpose whatever except to create and maintain an atmosphere of fear.
For a few ideological zealots, closed source drivers are as good as, or worse than, no drivers.
For some reason I had visions of that Leslie Nielson movie where Ray Charles has a cameo as a bus driver, and the one movie where Tommy Chong played a school bus driver and ODed on drugs while driving it, leaving it with no driver.
Thanks, the bubble has shrunk to the point that I can see around it, and it looks like my sight will be ok. I see Dr. Odin this afternoon. I hope he'll tell me I don't have to keep my head down any more! My back and neck are killing me.
Except that I've been safely behinds cars and suddenly found that they've stopped in a ridiculously short amount of space because of very good brakes and tires
You should buy some tires and get your brakes fixed, because if you're behind me and a dog runs in front of my car your insurance is going to go up.
Luckily I didn't hit any of them.
I think luck has little to do with it. You were obviously following at a safe distance, and just as obviously know your vehicle's limitations.
because unless you're in the intersection when it turns yellow you cannot get through quickly enough before it turns red.
I don't know about Colorado, but in Illinois if you're IN the intersection when it turns red you're legal.
Problem is - when it's icy you do NOT go through intersections fast, not if you want to live to see another day
When it's icy you don't go ANYWHERE fast! But tell that to the morons living here. About 20 years ago when I still smoked I worked across the street from teh governor's mansion, and stood inside the front door with a cigarette watching traffic (the only place in the building smoking was allowed). When it was dry and sunny they'd creep down 5th street doing 20, ten mph below the speed limit, but when it was snowing they'd do 40. I never could figure them out. They probably couldn't figure out why they were always getting into wrecks.
The cameras are menaces and should be replaced with real humans
I don't think you should get a ticket mailed to you because of a red light camera like some places do, but if some dumbass runs a red light and hits me, it would be nice to have that evidence so it's his insurance that goes up rather than mine.
No, I am willing to look at the facts. I suspect that I may have a touch of ass burgers myself. But with Leila it was like a light switch, she was fine until the day of the MMR. As another commenter said, there may be kids that are predisposed to autism but need a trigger. The MMR shot (or something in it, maybe thimerisol and maybe not) was pretty obviously the trigger. I don't think it's such a great idea to give a small child like that three vaccines at once at any rate.
Schitzophrenia runs in families but sometimes needs a trigger. I knew a kid when I was in the Air Force stationed with me in Thailand. Now, at the time there was any kind of drug you wanted there, with the exception of LSD and cocaine. Well, this kid (farm boy, kind of slow but ok) was sold some "acid" in town by some locals, and took some and passed it around. I did some, it wasn't LSD (I think it was baby laxative, but as the wrapper was written in Thai I have no idea).
Well, he was convinced it was LSD and that triggered schitzophrenia, he was talking to ants the next day, convinced he was the ant god (I shit you not). They medevaced him out of there, for all I know he;s in some mental institution now (or more likely homeless and strung out on crack since Reagan threw all the nuts out of the asylums).
I had a co-worker who was an African-American. He was born in Nigeria. He was a black man, but if he was white he'd still be an African-American.
Personally if I were black and someone called me an African-American I'd be as offended as I would be now if someone called me a European American. I'm an AMERICAN, damn it, despite my Irish roots.
Call me an Irish-American and I'll kick your ass. After I get drunk.
Both Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia have entries on bullshit (linked). On top of that, all of Uncyclopedia and some of wikipedia is bullshit. From the Uncyclopedia entry:
"Wow, even I can admit that's total bullshit." ~ Jack Thompson on Everything he says and does
The trouble with that is that one may propose a new hypothesis that may or may not pan out in the end, or may be modded by ignorant mods.
The story Friday about some sleazy lawyer suing about autisim and vaccinations forced me to comment about my oldest daughter (she'll be 23 this year), who was diagnosed as mentally retarded but I've since come to believ is autistic. It was modded "troll" despite the fact that fact was presented as fact, opinion as opinion, was heartfelt and real, and generated a lot of comments (mostly pretty redundant comments, however).
It would have been modded "incorrect" despite the fact that I only presented what I saw. Yes, it was colored by emotion, SHE'S MY DAUGHTER FOR GOD'S SAKE! If you want your ass kicked, hurt a man's lover. If you want to be fucking killed, hurt his child.
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I still find it so odd that much of the media tries so hard to categorize everything as Left or Right, Liberal or Conservative, Democrat or Republican. It's like the U.S. situation of two party politics is trying to infect the rest of the world.
That's because both major political parties here are firmly in the grasp of the multinational corporations who can "contribute" to only two parties, ignore the rest of the parties, and not care who loses because they win. They get the laws passed they want passed.
Of COURSE they're going to want to extend this to your country as well.
I meant that he shouldn't have to slam on the brakes for a yellow light. Of COURSE there are times you're going to have to slam them on, just not because the light turns yellow. Either you're far enough away to stop safely without slamming them on, close enough that you can safely go through, or you're speeding. But if the idiot running "for his health" runs out from behind a UPS truck you ARE going to have to slam them on and meybe even swerve.
Of course, it also seems entirely reasonable that once again, just due to the odds, she was extremely succeptable to developing autism, and that the vaccine just happened to trigger it
This seems likely to me, just as some people ar prone to schitzophrenia and don't get it without some trigger.
It may also be that thimerisol was the culprit after all.
Yes, and I'll accept that thimerisol may not be the cause; I don't know. I do know that we need to research autism so other kids don't have the problems mine has.
Also keep in mind that it is basically guaranteed that every person will experience several extremely unlikely events over the course of their life, some may be so small you would never even notice them. Some may be wonderful, some may be awful. That's the way life is.
That's true, the results of my CrystaLens implant were far better than the norm. Then I had a detached retina in the same eye. You take the good with the bad.
Measles can kill, blind, and cause serious birth defects in uteroif the mother becomes infected while pregnant
They vaccinate you for measles when you're two (MMR). How many three year olds do you see giving birth? Wouldn't it make more sense to vaccinate girls and only gorls, and only at puberty?
Mumps is relatively benign except for that nasty little bit about 25% of males becoming sterile if you catch it as an adult.
So why are they vaccinating two ywar olds?
Polio may be eradicated in the US, but it is not eradicated on the planet.
Then don't let anyone in the country unless they've been vaccinated.
One place it is still endemic is Afghanistan, and last I heard the were Americans there who were at least planning on returning to the US.
And if you're slamming on the brakes while someone is following you too closely, you are also at last partially (or even fully) responsible for the accident
The only reason for slamming on the brakes is to AVOID an accident. Common sense and the law (at least in Illinois) says that if you hit someone in the rear, you are FULLY at fault. If someone is tailgating me I generally slow down, which will give them more time to avoid hitting me if a stupid runner runs out in front of my car from behind a delivery truck forcing me to slam them on to avoid killing an idiot.
There's no reason to slam on the brakes for a yellow light. If you're so close to the intersection that you have to slam them on to stop, you're close enough to get through the intersection safely.
Furthermore, you're a bad driver if you pay constant attention to the car in front of you; traffic provably flows smoothly because drivers pay attention to traffic ahead of the car that they are directly following
Agreed, but you know, most of the idiots in this town don't pay attention to anything to the brake lights of the car they're tailgating. The only time you should be looking in your mirror is if you're contemplating a lane change.
Autism is usually characterized by decreased communication skills and decreased socialization
This perfectly describes Leila, especially when she was young.
It should also be noted that for autism to be diagnosed, the symptoms have to start by three years of age, I believe
She had the MMR shot at age two, wich is when these symptoms started. At the time (she'll be 23 this year) I'd never heard of autisim.
So you are saying you will ignore any evidence and all reason?
No, but I will discount any evidence that obviously doesn't fit the facts. How many scientists does Bush have who will swear before Congress that Global Warming doesn't exist or isn't man made? Clearly, researchers all make mistakes, and many are dishonest. They're not gods, they're not infallable.
Polio is still found in some of India
Then vaccinate the Indians and don't let any Indians who haven't been vaccinated enter the country.
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I should add "hide all your comic books" to that list.
Leave Godwin out of this! He's no terrorist!
Oh he is? Sorry.
Oops, sorry.
Now hold on there, son.
Installing Linux on the computers of unwitting Windows users may be a dumb plot, but it's hardly terrorism. If it were, every goddamned user on Slashdot would be a terrorist for trying to wrest Windows from Granny's warm, wet hands.
Those here who have instalkled Linux on someone's machine without permission raise your hands. Nobody? That's what I thought.
Those here who have installed malware on some unwitting Windows user's machine to add to your spambotnet? You in the back, you're under arrest!
You fear what you don't know
No, I fear what I KNOW. Of course, what one knows may in fact not be accurate. People fear that their kids will be killed by a school shooter despite the minimal actual danger, thanks to the american "journalists". I fear heights; but I broke both arms falling off a swingset when I was seven, so that fear is well founded. I don't fear polar bears despite how dangerous they are, because the only ones I've ever seen are in zoos.
No, using open-source as a villian is clearly propaganda. People don't fear open source - NOW. They may after seeing this piece of shit propaganda piece.
I think the GP merely misspelled "southern" and "American". Easy slip of the keyboard. ;)
Not a lot of Americans complained about the Trail of Tears either.
Only the indigenous ones! Now that typo I can't understand; people talk of "native" Americans; well, I'm a native. I was born here. They should in fact say Indigenous Americans, if they're so pedantic that the word "Indians" won't do.
When a roadside bomb attacking military vehicles is "terrorism", the word has lost all meaning.
"Terrorism" was originally defined as violence against civilians to affect politics. How are actions against soldiers in any way considered "terrorism"? Yet the American government called the barracks bombing (pre-911, under Clinton IIRC) "terrorism" and the present terrorist-in-chief (if military actions against soldiers is terrorism then?) considers roadside bombs to be "terrorism", then as you say, the word has lost all meaning.
It is now just a propaganda ploy.
-mcgrew
For a few ideological zealots, closed source drivers are as good as, or worse than, no drivers.
For some reason I had visions of that Leslie Nielson movie where Ray Charles has a cameo as a bus driver, and the one movie where Tommy Chong played a school bus driver and ODed on drugs while driving it, leaving it with no driver.
Ray: "Closed sourse, next stop"
Passenger: "Let me out here, please!"
-mcgrew
Ah, but there's the fallacy. They reproduce at a much greater rate than you or I do. Evolution is about reproduction.
I have two kids, Linda has 15 counting the one that died. She beats me at the genetic olympics. She just got out of prison 2 months ago.
Thanks, the bubble has shrunk to the point that I can see around it, and it looks like my sight will be ok. I see Dr. Odin this afternoon. I hope he'll tell me I don't have to keep my head down any more! My back and neck are killing me.
Except that I've been safely behinds cars and suddenly found that they've stopped in a ridiculously short amount of space because of very good brakes and tires
You should buy some tires and get your brakes fixed, because if you're behind me and a dog runs in front of my car your insurance is going to go up.
Luckily I didn't hit any of them.
I think luck has little to do with it. You were obviously following at a safe distance, and just as obviously know your vehicle's limitations.
because unless you're in the intersection when it turns yellow you cannot get through quickly enough before it turns red.
I don't know about Colorado, but in Illinois if you're IN the intersection when it turns red you're legal.
Problem is - when it's icy you do NOT go through intersections fast, not if you want to live to see another day
When it's icy you don't go ANYWHERE fast! But tell that to the morons living here. About 20 years ago when I still smoked I worked across the street from teh governor's mansion, and stood inside the front door with a cigarette watching traffic (the only place in the building smoking was allowed). When it was dry and sunny they'd creep down 5th street doing 20, ten mph below the speed limit, but when it was snowing they'd do 40. I never could figure them out. They probably couldn't figure out why they were always getting into wrecks.
The cameras are menaces and should be replaced with real humans
I don't think you should get a ticket mailed to you because of a red light camera like some places do, but if some dumbass runs a red light and hits me, it would be nice to have that evidence so it's his insurance that goes up rather than mine.
That situation annoys me as well, but I won't rearend the guy, because I'm not going to be riding his bumper.
No, I am willing to look at the facts. I suspect that I may have a touch of ass burgers myself. But with Leila it was like a light switch, she was fine until the day of the MMR. As another commenter said, there may be kids that are predisposed to autism but need a trigger. The MMR shot (or something in it, maybe thimerisol and maybe not) was pretty obviously the trigger. I don't think it's such a great idea to give a small child like that three vaccines at once at any rate.
Schitzophrenia runs in families but sometimes needs a trigger. I knew a kid when I was in the Air Force stationed with me in Thailand. Now, at the time there was any kind of drug you wanted there, with the exception of LSD and cocaine. Well, this kid (farm boy, kind of slow but ok) was sold some "acid" in town by some locals, and took some and passed it around. I did some, it wasn't LSD (I think it was baby laxative, but as the wrapper was written in Thai I have no idea).
Well, he was convinced it was LSD and that triggered schitzophrenia, he was talking to ants the next day, convinced he was the ant god (I shit you not). They medevaced him out of there, for all I know he;s in some mental institution now (or more likely homeless and strung out on crack since Reagan threw all the nuts out of the asylums).
I had a co-worker who was an African-American. He was born in Nigeria. He was a black man, but if he was white he'd still be an African-American.
Personally if I were black and someone called me an African-American I'd be as offended as I would be now if someone called me a European American. I'm an AMERICAN, damn it, despite my Irish roots.
Call me an Irish-American and I'll kick your ass. After I get drunk.
-mcgrew
Both Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia have entries on bullshit (linked). On top of that, all of Uncyclopedia and some of wikipedia is bullshit. From the Uncyclopedia entry:
"Wow, even I can admit that's total bullshit."
~ Jack Thompson on Everything he says and does
The trouble with that is that one may propose a new hypothesis that may or may not pan out in the end, or may be modded by ignorant mods.
The story Friday about some sleazy lawyer suing about autisim and vaccinations forced me to comment about my oldest daughter (she'll be 23 this year), who was diagnosed as mentally retarded but I've since come to believ is autistic. It was modded "troll" despite the fact that fact was presented as fact, opinion as opinion, was heartfelt and real, and generated a lot of comments (mostly pretty redundant comments, however).
It would have been modded "incorrect" despite the fact that I only presented what I saw. Yes, it was colored by emotion, SHE'S MY DAUGHTER FOR GOD'S SAKE! If you want your ass kicked, hurt a man's lover. If you want to be fucking killed, hurt his child.
Hay dood wazzap? Yew knot knew hear, ore yew? Wee owl yews spill chuckers a round hear sew wee no wee kin look smart! Axe seeped wind wee use hour phone, BRB CU l8tr
I still find it so odd that much of the media tries so hard to categorize everything as Left or Right, Liberal or Conservative, Democrat or Republican. It's like the U.S. situation of two party politics is trying to infect the rest of the world.
That's because both major political parties here are firmly in the grasp of the multinational corporations who can "contribute" to only two parties, ignore the rest of the parties, and not care who loses because they win. They get the laws passed they want passed.
Of COURSE they're going to want to extend this to your country as well.
I meant that he shouldn't have to slam on the brakes for a yellow light. Of COURSE there are times you're going to have to slam them on, just not because the light turns yellow. Either you're far enough away to stop safely without slamming them on, close enough that you can safely go through, or you're speeding. But if the idiot running "for his health" runs out from behind a UPS truck you ARE going to have to slam them on and meybe even swerve.
Of course, it also seems entirely reasonable that once again, just due to the odds, she was extremely succeptable to developing autism, and that the vaccine just happened to trigger it
This seems likely to me, just as some people ar prone to schitzophrenia and don't get it without some trigger.
It may also be that thimerisol was the culprit after all.
Yes, and I'll accept that thimerisol may not be the cause; I don't know. I do know that we need to research autism so other kids don't have the problems mine has.
Also keep in mind that it is basically guaranteed that every person will experience several extremely unlikely events over the course of their life, some may be so small you would never even notice them. Some may be wonderful, some may be awful. That's the way life is.
That's true, the results of my CrystaLens implant were far better than the norm. Then I had a detached retina in the same eye. You take the good with the bad.
Measles can kill, blind, and cause serious birth defects in uteroif the mother becomes infected while pregnant
They vaccinate you for measles when you're two (MMR). How many three year olds do you see giving birth? Wouldn't it make more sense to vaccinate girls and only gorls, and only at puberty?
Mumps is relatively benign except for that nasty little bit about 25% of males becoming sterile if you catch it as an adult.
So why are they vaccinating two ywar olds?
Polio may be eradicated in the US, but it is not eradicated on the planet.
Then don't let anyone in the country unless they've been vaccinated.
One place it is still endemic is Afghanistan, and last I heard the were Americans there who were at least planning on returning to the US.
Then vaccinate the soldiers before they go there.
And if you're slamming on the brakes while someone is following you too closely, you are also at last partially (or even fully) responsible for the accident
The only reason for slamming on the brakes is to AVOID an accident. Common sense and the law (at least in Illinois) says that if you hit someone in the rear, you are FULLY at fault. If someone is tailgating me I generally slow down, which will give them more time to avoid hitting me if a stupid runner runs out in front of my car from behind a delivery truck forcing me to slam them on to avoid killing an idiot.
There's no reason to slam on the brakes for a yellow light. If you're so close to the intersection that you have to slam them on to stop, you're close enough to get through the intersection safely.
Furthermore, you're a bad driver if you pay constant attention to the car in front of you; traffic provably flows smoothly because drivers pay attention to traffic ahead of the car that they are directly following
Agreed, but you know, most of the idiots in this town don't pay attention to anything to the brake lights of the car they're tailgating. The only time you should be looking in your mirror is if you're contemplating a lane change.
Autism is usually characterized by decreased communication skills and decreased socialization
This perfectly describes Leila, especially when she was young.
It should also be noted that for autism to be diagnosed, the symptoms have to start by three years of age, I believe
She had the MMR shot at age two, wich is when these symptoms started. At the time (she'll be 23 this year) I'd never heard of autisim.
So you are saying you will ignore any evidence and all reason?
No, but I will discount any evidence that obviously doesn't fit the facts. How many scientists does Bush have who will swear before Congress that Global Warming doesn't exist or isn't man made? Clearly, researchers all make mistakes, and many are dishonest. They're not gods, they're not infallable.
Polio is still found in some of India
Then vaccinate the Indians and don't let any Indians who haven't been vaccinated enter the country.
I wonder if giving combined vaccines for lots of different diseases at the same time is such a good idea.
That was my thought at the time. After reading the controversy about thimerisol I still wonder.