They are thieves for doing the job they were hired for?!?
If they were hired to deceive, then yes. If they believe in their product, they're not thieves. If they don't but sell it anyway, they are. If I hire you to shoplift does doing your job make you a thief?
Like I said, I haven't yet seen it, but Linda said it was a good movie. But even if it is a good movie, if the people selling it think it sucks, they're thieves.
If you hire someone to seal your driveway with no credentials and no license, then it's YOUR frigging fault for being an idiot.
If I break into your house it's "YOUR frigging fault for being an idiot" and not having better security? You make my point for me - honesty seems to be out of style these days. You seem to not care about dishonesty. I bet you cheated your way through college; after all, it was the professor's fault for being too stupid to catch you.
I am so freaking sick and tired of people bitching about the world owing them a living
Your attitude sickens me. My employer owes me a living, and I owe him my time. That's the contract. If I pay you for X and you deliver Y, you have stolen from me, plain and simple. If I pay you for a thing, you OWE me the thing I paid for.
If you rip me off I will take the responsibility of calling the police and having your theiving ass put in the jail it belongs in.
"They" are business people, and probably negligent in their jobs if they didn't focus on box-office sales as a metric
No, "they" are thieves who are out to con you out of your hard earned money, no better than someone who "seals" your driveway with black paint, or a "drug dealer" who sells oregano.
If they were truly buisinesspeople they would make the best product possible and sell it on their merits, like businesspeople used to do. There have always been thieves in the business world, but it seems that these days thieves vastly outnumber the honest businesspeople.
Dislcaimer - I haven't seen the movie. Maybe it is a good movie, but if these people are worried that it sucks and want to keep its percieved suckage out of your mind, the people who are selling it (not necessarily the people who made it) are thieves, not honest businessmen.
When did stealing from your customers become ethical and normal, anyway?
I read his books decades ago. Interesting, yes, but totally ignorant. His "landing strips in Mexico (or was it Peru? I'ts been a while since I read them) shows complete and utter ignorance of man's need to create art.
What with the mutilated cows, perhaps they would disguise themselves as cows, thinking that cows were the dominant life form, who gets this other dumb species to build stuff for them and feed them and so forth?
"the future has its price and today is only yesterday's tomorrow." Uriah Heep,Circle of Hands
I travel through time constantly. So do you. It's just that afaik you can only travel in one direction, although the speeds can vary.
"If you put your hand on a hot stove, a second is a long time. If you're with a pretty girl, an hour is too short. That's relativity". -Albert Einstein
I can't tell how many times I've wished for an extra arm! Like right now, I have "mouse elbow" from moving my right hand from mouse to keyboard and back. If I had four arme I could type, mouse, and drink coffee at the same time.
As it is it's hard to tie a ribbon to a box without having someone put their finger on the knot for you.
Let's rephrase that. Children of today will have to repurchase mom and dad's music collection at some point in the future.
How are they going to do that when all the music in the collection is "out of print" and the record label has gone bankrupt and all the keys are missing?
I see you bought one of these defective motherboards. What do you expect from a company with "con" in the name, honesty? It's Foxconn for krissake!
There's a construction company here in illinois, I see their trucks all the time; Conmstrux. "Con's trucks". I wouldn't have someone like that build an outhouse, but as with Foxconn it is a kind of truth in advertising.
To a Welshman or a Scotsman would it sound like "Fucks Con?" I hope these boards are sold in Britian, where they have REAL false advertising laws, unlike here in the US. They need to be slapped down hard for these shenannigans.
According to Wikipedia we have five political parties in the US, but the two that are owned by the corporates are really two wings of the same party. The only disagreements between the Democrats and Republicans are which foreign companies to support with their legislation.
The Busch family sold their brewery, I thought I'd switch from Busch to Sam Adams after its sellout, but Wikipedia says Miller makes Sam Adams under subcontract, and it's pubically onwned to boot.
The corporate media (also foreign owned; if a foreigner can buy stock in it it's foreign owned) only support these two parties. Sp we effectively have a one party system here, which explains why our government keeps passing pro-corporate, pro-foreign, anti-people and anti-American laws like the PATRIOT act, the DMCA, FISA, Bono Act, drug laws, etc.
Rather than throw away my vote on a candidate whose views are diametrically opposed to my own, I now throw my vote away on the Greens and Libertarians.
If you "rent" a film, tv show or the like, DRM makes perfect sense. Let the renter watch it, set the DRM to expire after 3 days, then bam, it's gone.
I hope you're referring to downloads rather than the DVDs that stop working after one play (there was a/. story about their return not long ago). It takes oil to make DVDs and having them wind up in a landfill is sociopathic.
You say "But yes, DRM on things you buy rather than rent is retarded", well what's retarded is thinking you bought a DRMed item in the first place. If it has DRM, you rented it no matter what you think.
DRM itself is retarded. It is completely ineffective against piracy; you can get torrents of the new Batman move and you can get illegal downloads of every song in the top 40 Billboard list. All it does is inconvience honest, paying customers, and that is past retarded and nearing brain dead.
Anyone who sells DRM is a thief who is playing on the media companies' fears.
I find it odd that quick remarks against Foxconn have been modded "troll" and "flamebait", just like interesting and insightful comments that say something bad about Microsoft usually are in other threads. If you work for MS and have mod points and are modding these comments against Foxconn down, two things:
1. It is suggestive that this is another Microsoft trick against Linux. Your downmodding of anti-Foxconn comments just fuels the conspiracy theories
2. When the metamods mark your mods as "unfair" you my not get mod points again. If I'm given one of the "flamebaits" or "trolls" (except the one that says "first post", that one was fairly modded) I will mod the mod as "unfair" and I imagine other metamoderators will do the same.
I'm checking the "no karma bonus" box, please feel free to mod this ot comment down further if you wish.
That joke might be funny for a young person who has never lived in a world without cell phones, but the reason women outlive men is that men have historically done dirty dangerous jobs. Nobody ever died typing, but construction work is one of the most dangerous things you can do.
Note that the difference in longevity between men and women is shrinking as more and more women are willing to do a "man's job".
I have a couple of questions for those in the medical community. Is it the frequency of cell phone transmissions, or simply the power?
because if it's just power and not microwave frequency, my dad was an electrical lineman, working both with 700 volt power (which the transformers on the poles convert to your house's 110 volts) and the 30,000 volt transmission towers.
He was on top of a pole or tower for forty years, exposed to incredibly high EMF at 60 Hz. He's 77 years old now, comfortably retired and in good health.
So if frequency has nothing to do with it, I think you're pretty safe. Not that you're going to live forever anyway. And since I smoked cigarettes for thirty years (gave them up in 1999) It's a pretty good bet that I'll die of cancer anyway, so cell phones are the least of my worries.
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They are thieves for doing the job they were hired for?!?
If they were hired to deceive, then yes. If they believe in their product, they're not thieves. If they don't but sell it anyway, they are. If I hire you to shoplift does doing your job make you a thief?
Like I said, I haven't yet seen it, but Linda said it was a good movie. But even if it is a good movie, if the people selling it think it sucks, they're thieves.
If you hire someone to seal your driveway with no credentials and no license, then it's YOUR frigging fault for being an idiot.
If I break into your house it's "YOUR frigging fault for being an idiot" and not having better security? You make my point for me - honesty seems to be out of style these days. You seem to not care about dishonesty. I bet you cheated your way through college; after all, it was the professor's fault for being too stupid to catch you.
I am so freaking sick and tired of people bitching about the world owing them a living
Your attitude sickens me. My employer owes me a living, and I owe him my time. That's the contract. If I pay you for X and you deliver Y, you have stolen from me, plain and simple. If I pay you for a thing, you OWE me the thing I paid for.
If you rip me off I will take the responsibility of calling the police and having your theiving ass put in the jail it belongs in.
The congressmen can't be that stupid right?
The inverse of Hanlon's Razor, mcgrew's razor: never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by greedy self interest.
-mcgrew
"They" are business people, and probably negligent in their jobs if they didn't focus on box-office sales as a metric
No, "they" are thieves who are out to con you out of your hard earned money, no better than someone who "seals" your driveway with black paint, or a "drug dealer" who sells oregano.
If they were truly buisinesspeople they would make the best product possible and sell it on their merits, like businesspeople used to do. There have always been thieves in the business world, but it seems that these days thieves vastly outnumber the honest businesspeople.
Dislcaimer - I haven't seen the movie. Maybe it is a good movie, but if these people are worried that it sucks and want to keep its percieved suckage out of your mind, the people who are selling it (not necessarily the people who made it) are thieves, not honest businessmen.
When did stealing from your customers become ethical and normal, anyway?
Wow, you know, doing acid in outer space would be REALLY dangerous, but I'd love to smoke a joint on the ISS.
Speak for yourself, heathen!
I read his books decades ago. Interesting, yes, but totally ignorant. His "landing strips in Mexico (or was it Peru? I'ts been a while since I read them) shows complete and utter ignorance of man's need to create art.
What with the mutilated cows, perhaps they would disguise themselves as cows, thinking that cows were the dominant life form, who gets this other dumb species to build stuff for them and feed them and so forth?
I don't believe in time travel
"the future has its price and today is only yesterday's tomorrow." Uriah Heep, Circle of Hands
I travel through time constantly. So do you. It's just that afaik you can only travel in one direction, although the speeds can vary.
"If you put your hand on a hot stove, a second is a long time. If you're with a pretty girl, an hour is too short. That's relativity". -Albert Einstein
I can't tell how many times I've wished for an extra arm! Like right now, I have "mouse elbow" from moving my right hand from mouse to keyboard and back. If I had four arme I could type, mouse, and drink coffee at the same time.
As it is it's hard to tie a ribbon to a box without having someone put their finger on the knot for you.
Vary interesting article, thanks for the link. It was undoubtedly ShieldW0lf meant. However, "Nucleic acids (DNA, RNA) themselves were not formed."
You have to forgive them, I don't think they speak English natively.
Let's rephrase that. Children of today will have to repurchase mom and dad's music collection at some point in the future.
How are they going to do that when all the music in the collection is "out of print" and the record label has gone bankrupt and all the keys are missing?
I never heard of Foxcon before. Is there a Henhousecon?
I see you bought one of these defective motherboards. What do you expect from a company with "con" in the name, honesty? It's Foxconn for krissake!
There's a construction company here in illinois, I see their trucks all the time; Conmstrux. "Con's trucks". I wouldn't have someone like that build an outhouse, but as with Foxconn it is a kind of truth in advertising.
To a Welshman or a Scotsman would it sound like "Fucks Con?" I hope these boards are sold in Britian, where they have REAL false advertising laws, unlike here in the US. They need to be slapped down hard for these shenannigans.
I, Robot. You, ANAL
If you bought, then the limitations of DRM were also a part of the purchase,
If it has DRM you didn't buy it, You only rented it. To call taking money for an item with DRM a "sale" is a baldfaced lie and a dishonest scam.
Come on, guys, what does it take so long to tag this story with the 'haha' tag??? Are you all asleep?
Yes.
They actually provide a rip to cd thing with their software, so you can go direct to unprotected mp3.
So what's the point of the DRM?
According to Wikipedia we have five political parties in the US, but the two that are owned by the corporates are really two wings of the same party. The only disagreements between the Democrats and Republicans are which foreign companies to support with their legislation.
The Busch family sold their brewery, I thought I'd switch from Busch to Sam Adams after its sellout, but Wikipedia says Miller makes Sam Adams under subcontract, and it's pubically onwned to boot.
The corporate media (also foreign owned; if a foreigner can buy stock in it it's foreign owned) only support these two parties. Sp we effectively have a one party system here, which explains why our government keeps passing pro-corporate, pro-foreign, anti-people and anti-American laws like the PATRIOT act, the DMCA, FISA, Bono Act, drug laws, etc.
Rather than throw away my vote on a candidate whose views are diametrically opposed to my own, I now throw my vote away on the Greens and Libertarians.
If you "rent" a film, tv show or the like, DRM makes perfect sense. Let the renter watch it, set the DRM to expire after 3 days, then bam, it's gone.
I hope you're referring to downloads rather than the DVDs that stop working after one play (there was a /. story about their return not long ago). It takes oil to make DVDs and having them wind up in a landfill is sociopathic.
You say "But yes, DRM on things you buy rather than rent is retarded", well what's retarded is thinking you bought a DRMed item in the first place. If it has DRM, you rented it no matter what you think.
DRM itself is retarded. It is completely ineffective against piracy; you can get torrents of the new Batman move and you can get illegal downloads of every song in the top 40 Billboard list. All it does is inconvience honest, paying customers, and that is past retarded and nearing brain dead.
Anyone who sells DRM is a thief who is playing on the media companies' fears.
I find it odd that quick remarks against Foxconn have been modded "troll" and "flamebait", just like interesting and insightful comments that say something bad about Microsoft usually are in other threads. If you work for MS and have mod points and are modding these comments against Foxconn down, two things:
1. It is suggestive that this is another Microsoft trick against Linux. Your downmodding of anti-Foxconn comments just fuels the conspiracy theories
2. When the metamods mark your mods as "unfair" you my not get mod points again. If I'm given one of the "flamebaits" or "trolls" (except the one that says "first post", that one was fairly modded) I will mod the mod as "unfair" and I imagine other metamoderators will do the same.
I'm checking the "no karma bonus" box, please feel free to mod this ot comment down further if you wish.
That joke might be funny for a young person who has never lived in a world without cell phones, but the reason women outlive men is that men have historically done dirty dangerous jobs. Nobody ever died typing, but construction work is one of the most dangerous things you can do.
Note that the difference in longevity between men and women is shrinking as more and more women are willing to do a "man's job".
The only thing we're somewhat sure of is that close proximity to extremely high voltage lines "could" be hazardous
Touch it and you die instantly.
Correlation is not causation, although in the traffic thing there is an indirect causation.
They're in the phone to their drug dealers, which explains why they drive so bad.
I have a couple of questions for those in the medical community. Is it the frequency of cell phone transmissions, or simply the power?
because if it's just power and not microwave frequency, my dad was an electrical lineman, working both with 700 volt power (which the transformers on the poles convert to your house's 110 volts) and the 30,000 volt transmission towers.
He was on top of a pole or tower for forty years, exposed to incredibly high EMF at 60 Hz. He's 77 years old now, comfortably retired and in good health.
So if frequency has nothing to do with it, I think you're pretty safe. Not that you're going to live forever anyway. And since I smoked cigarettes for thirty years (gave them up in 1999) It's a pretty good bet that I'll die of cancer anyway, so cell phones are the least of my worries.