It's evolved in my own time, and I argued that with someone else in this thread that was doing a very poor immitation of Carlin (Carlin's rants were funny).
But sometimes it devolves, like using the verb "loose" when you mean "lose", or using an apostrophe when it isn't warranted. That's not evolution, that's illiteracy. Here's another Bob cartoon about the apostrophe.
The automatic parts you speak of aren't really automatic. Your arm won't move without a signal from your brain, except as a reflex action. Just because you are not conscious of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Stanley, Stanley, here is your answer true You are crazy if you think I'll marry you If you can't afford a carriage You can't afford a marriage And I'll be damned If I'll be crammed On a bicycle built for two!
(Couldn't find references; unintelligent googlebot failed me. But this is the second verse that HAL would have read had he not been unplugged first. Someone pls attribute, thx)
Straw man. The title of this thread is asking a similar question to "Whatever happened to the Internet? It was supposed to unify all Americans and bring about a new age of prosperity, online groceries, video telephones, and flying cars?"
I don't recall enyone EVER saying the internet would ever do that. I have, however, heard that computers would become self-aware.
Cars were going to fly, too, but nobody ever blamed the internet for flying cars.
But contrary to what you may have been sold, we're not 10-15 years away from creating Skynet
No, but we've been to the point where someone could claim to have invented a self-aware articifial intelligence and use our fear of it for his own gain for quite some time now.
Besides, creating a self-aware, self-learning system could (will) be feasible
I keep hearing this and reading it decade after decade, but I have yet to have anyone explain exactly why they believe it. Can you? What makes you so sure we will create a self-aware machine, especially since we don't understand how sentience actually works?
Heh, the first "computer" I built wasn't really a computer at all, but a Turing Test machine similar to your Apple II program which actually worked the same way, and was the basis for the "Artificial Insanity" program I wrote in 1983 (or was it 1984?).
I was in the 6th grade IIRC, and the "computer" started life as an "idiot finder". You would point it at a person, and if they were an idiot, a light on it would light up.
Actually it was a battery, a flashlight bulb, and a reed switch. I wore a ring with a magnet; to work I'd point it at the victim and move my ring by where the switch was. The other kids loved it, to them I was a nerdy legend.
The teachers hated it. To them I was a pest.
The next iteration had the bulb replaced by a motor, with the aformentioned answers printed out and rolled up. "Is the teacher an idiot?" "Whirrrrrr..."
Yeah? Well, my computer is intelligent enough to know when to use an apostrophe and when not to! What's more, even an angry flower is intelligent enough to know that neither"AI's" nor "genius's" should have an apostrophe.
It's AIs and geniuses, genius.
"The AIs were developed in 1997" "The AI's intelligence was weak, however."
"The genius' hair was mussed" "The geniuses were stupid."
"Bob's lack of a brain didn't stop him from making fun of illiterates' misuse of the apostrophe, even though two Bobs would be too many, to know of".:P
Don't they have grade school any more? Is it all selfish steam and no English or math?
One of the things you'll find about slashdot is a lot of people here will mod you as "troll" [wikipedia.org] if you badmouth one of their high priests. Never dis a banker when you may be talking to someone who worships money as so many slashdotters do, and especially don't badmouth someone who can buy bankers.
I don't have a very high opinion of Murdoch either. He comes here to America from Australia, buys up a lot of our shit (Fox, Myspace, etc) and then the foreigner who claims not to be an alien rams his neocon politics down our throats. Chances are whoever modded you "troll" is a slashdot neocon. There are guys who will mod you down for saying Bush is a bad President.
If I metamod your comment, the guy(s) who modded it "troll" will get smited. It is not offtopic and it should not provoke an emotional reaction in anyone who isn't monetarily invested in Murdoch's schemes. Note to moderators: your mod had best fit the wikipedia definition of whatever you mod as or your mod will be modded down. For instance, there's little way for a first post to be redundant.
Think before you mod or you may not get more points to mod with. When in doubt, save your mod points.
I hate spreadsheets in general and only use one when I have to. Lotus' used to be good back before their board of directors got taken over by a herd of drunken monkeys. I've gotten used to Excel, but it still pisses me off. Few programs can manage to do that.
Does the scroll wheel work in OO? What's bad about it (I haven't used it; if I need a spreadsheet at home it's what I would use, however, unless it sucks enough for me to actually shell out hard earned money for something I hate using.
By the way, driving a car is NOT multitasking. It's a single complex activity. When you have attained a certain level of mastery you're no longer thinking about turning the steering wheel, or steeping on the clutch pedal - you just think "I'm going to go over there" or "I need to be in a lower gear" and it just sort of happens.
Who ever said multitasking involved thinking about what you were doing next? The fact is that you do in fact multiTASK while driving; you do more than one thing at a time, especially in situations when you don't have time to think about it.
It's no different than polaying a guitar; both hands are doing completely different things. Just because you don't have to consciously think about all the different muscles you have to move, in what order, maintaining your balance while walking doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It just means you don't notice.
Which is exactly what I said: read the books to get the theory, THEN build the kits and you'll be able to understand what's going on with them. "That little brown can with stripes and two wires is soldered in here, so what?"
I was a telephone subscriber when they broke up ATT, and I can tell that you weren't by your ignorant comment.
We were paying usurious rates, renting equipment that handn't been upgraded in decades. When ATT was broken up, telephone rates dropped, long distance rates REALLY dropped, we could buy phones for ten bucks each that we rented for two bucks a month previously, the phones had innovations such as answering machines, cordless handsets, etc.
I gave up cigarettes in 1999 after smoking them for thirty years. My comment doesn't come from a hstory book, it comes from living in this country for well over five decades.
The same sort of psychopaths that ran our world in the 1920 are running it now. The Great Depression changed everything; the psychopaths were tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail. In my youth, the olsters remembered the Depression and the psychopaths who caused the misery for their own gain and people had no respect for them.
The only ones who remember the twenties are now extremely elderly. The new thirties are, I fear, right around the corner because only the oldest remember them and what led to them. History goes in cycles.
And if you say popular usage has changed that, I say, fuck popular usage!
Don we now our gay apparrel Tra la la Tra la la la la la
"Is deck the Halls about a transvestite, Grandpa?"
celibate does not mean not having sex
Only if "hacker" doesn't mean "cyburgler"
You wouldn't say, "as welcome as a turd in the proverbial punchbowl
You would if the phrase had become a cliche'.
proverbial 3. of the nature of or resembling a proverb: proverbial sayings. 4. having been made the subject of a proverb: the proverbial barn door which is closed too late. 5. having become an object of common mention or reference: your proverbial inability to get anywhere on time.
Momentarily means for a moment, not in a moment.
momentarily 1. For a moment or an instant. 2. In a moment; very soon. 3. Moment by moment; progressively.
Healthy does not mean "healthful." Healthy is a condition, healthful is a property. Vegetable aren't healthy, they're dead. No food is healthy. Unlesss you have an eggplant that's doing push-ups. Push-ups are healthful.
1. possessing or enjoying good health or a sound and vigorous mentality: a healthy body; a healthy mind. 2. pertaining to or characteristic of good health, or a sound and vigorous mind: a healthy appearance; healthy attitudes. 3. conducive to good health; healthful: healthy recreations.
Race, creed, or color is wrong. Race and color, as used in this phrase, describe the same property. And "creed" is a stilted, outmoded way of saying "religion."
So in other words, it's perfectly literate buit don't say it because religion pisses the bar code guy off?
Don't you just hate it when you show your ignorance when ranting about other peoples' ignorance? Sorry, but I'll take the dictionary's word over yours any day.
Sadly, judging by what's followed from the major networks in the years since, it seems to have been one of the last gasps of truly quality TV series.
I see you've never seen My Name Is Earl. It's a hell of a lot funnier than MASH ever was, and unlike the pretentious MASH can say serious things while making you laugh. Or if you're into doctor comedies, how about Scrubs?
so-called "comedy" show that needs a laugh track isn't funny enough to watch. Plus MASH was way too self-important; or at least became so later.
And the movie was a lot better than the TV show. Maybe that's because it had no laugh track?
I gots dibs on mcgrew.wtf
You guys can have the rest of the .wtf domains.
language evolves over time
It's evolved in my own time, and I argued that with someone else in this thread that was doing a very poor immitation of Carlin (Carlin's rants were funny).
But sometimes it devolves, like using the verb "loose" when you mean "lose", or using an apostrophe when it isn't warranted. That's not evolution, that's illiteracy. Here's another Bob cartoon about the apostrophe.
And Here's a roll model. Here's another. another... hell, google has pages of roll models.
Punctuation aids communication. Its misuse aids obfuscation.
It's been decades since I was young. I'm still stupid, however.
(now watch, they'll mod this "insightful")
The automatic parts you speak of aren't really automatic. Your arm won't move without a signal from your brain, except as a reflex action. Just because you are not conscious of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Hmmm.... the source must be compressed pretty tightly, eh?
It makes no difference to me. Signal to noise, indeed. Good day to you, too.
Stanley, Stanley, here is your answer true
You are crazy if you think I'll marry you
If you can't afford a carriage
You can't afford a marriage
And I'll be damned
If I'll be crammed
On a bicycle built for two!
(Couldn't find references; unintelligent googlebot failed me. But this is the second verse that HAL would have read had he not been unplugged first. Someone pls attribute, thx)
Straw man. The title of this thread is asking a similar question to "Whatever happened to the Internet? It was supposed to unify all Americans and bring about a new age of prosperity, online groceries, video telephones, and flying cars?"
I don't recall enyone EVER saying the internet would ever do that. I have, however, heard that computers would become self-aware.
Cars were going to fly, too, but nobody ever blamed the internet for flying cars.
But contrary to what you may have been sold, we're not 10-15 years away from creating Skynet
No, but we've been to the point where someone could claim to have invented a self-aware articifial intelligence and use our fear of it for his own gain for quite some time now.
Besides, creating a self-aware, self-learning system could (will) be feasible
I keep hearing this and reading it decade after decade, but I have yet to have anyone explain exactly why they believe it. Can you? What makes you so sure we will create a self-aware machine, especially since we don't understand how sentience actually works?
Heh, the first "computer" I built wasn't really a computer at all, but a Turing Test machine similar to your Apple II program which actually worked the same way, and was the basis for the "Artificial Insanity" program I wrote in 1983 (or was it 1984?).
I was in the 6th grade IIRC, and the "computer" started life as an "idiot finder". You would point it at a person, and if they were an idiot, a light on it would light up.
Actually it was a battery, a flashlight bulb, and a reed switch. I wore a ring with a magnet; to work I'd point it at the victim and move my ring by where the switch was. The other kids loved it, to them I was a nerdy legend.
The teachers hated it. To them I was a pest.
The next iteration had the bulb replaced by a motor, with the aformentioned answers printed out and rolled up. "Is the teacher an idiot?" "Whirrrrrr..."
Yeah? Well, my computer is intelligent enough to know when to use an apostrophe and when not to! What's more, even an angry flower is intelligent enough to know that neither"AI's" nor "genius's" should have an apostrophe.
It's AIs and geniuses, genius.
"The AIs were developed in 1997"
"The AI's intelligence was weak, however."
"The genius' hair was mussed"
"The geniuses were stupid."
"Bob's lack of a brain didn't stop him from making fun of illiterates' misuse of the apostrophe, even though two Bobs would be too many, to know of". :P
Don't they have grade school any more? Is it all selfish steam and no English or math?
Before programs are intelligent, first the programmers have to be.
One of the things you'll find about slashdot is a lot of people here will mod you as "troll" [wikipedia.org] if you badmouth one of their high priests. Never dis a banker when you may be talking to someone who worships money as so many slashdotters do, and especially don't badmouth someone who can buy bankers.
I don't have a very high opinion of Murdoch either. He comes here to America from Australia, buys up a lot of our shit (Fox, Myspace, etc) and then the foreigner who claims not to be an alien rams his neocon politics down our throats. Chances are whoever modded you "troll" is a slashdot neocon. There are guys who will mod you down for saying Bush is a bad President.
If I metamod your comment, the guy(s) who modded it "troll" will get smited. It is not offtopic and it should not provoke an emotional reaction in anyone who isn't monetarily invested in Murdoch's schemes. Note to moderators: your mod had best fit the wikipedia definition of whatever you mod as or your mod will be modded down. For instance, there's little way for a first post to be redundant.
Think before you mod or you may not get more points to mod with. When in doubt, save your mod points.
"No Karma Bonus" box checked.
I hate spreadsheets in general and only use one when I have to. Lotus' used to be good back before their board of directors got taken over by a herd of drunken monkeys. I've gotten used to Excel, but it still pisses me off. Few programs can manage to do that.
Does the scroll wheel work in OO? What's bad about it (I haven't used it; if I need a spreadsheet at home it's what I would use, however, unless it sucks enough for me to actually shell out hard earned money for something I hate using.
You think I don't know that?
By the way, driving a car is NOT multitasking. It's a single complex activity. When you have attained a certain level of mastery you're no longer thinking about turning the steering wheel, or steeping on the clutch pedal - you just think "I'm going to go over there" or "I need to be in a lower gear" and it just sort of happens.
Who ever said multitasking involved thinking about what you were doing next? The fact is that you do in fact multiTASK while driving; you do more than one thing at a time, especially in situations when you don't have time to think about it.
It's no different than polaying a guitar; both hands are doing completely different things. Just because you don't have to consciously think about all the different muscles you have to move, in what order, maintaining your balance while walking doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It just means you don't notice.
Doing lab work made it real for me
Which is exactly what I said: read the books to get the theory, THEN build the kits and you'll be able to understand what's going on with them. "That little brown can with stripes and two wires is soldered in here, so what?"
I would like to take this opportunity to applaud the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for their work
I wouln't. It's a PR play, and Bill had to be shamed into it by his father, a lawyer (of all professions!).
I'm happy for the side affect, which is that some good is done. But I don't applaud Bill for it.
I was a telephone subscriber when they broke up ATT, and I can tell that you weren't by your ignorant comment.
We were paying usurious rates, renting equipment that handn't been upgraded in decades. When ATT was broken up, telephone rates dropped, long distance rates REALLY dropped, we could buy phones for ten bucks each that we rented for two bucks a month previously, the phones had innovations such as answering machines, cordless handsets, etc.
Where did you get such a stupid idea? Microsoft?
What are you smoking?
I gave up cigarettes in 1999 after smoking them for thirty years. My comment doesn't come from a hstory book, it comes from living in this country for well over five decades.
The same sort of psychopaths that ran our world in the 1920 are running it now. The Great Depression changed everything; the psychopaths were tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail. In my youth, the olsters remembered the Depression and the psychopaths who caused the misery for their own gain and people had no respect for them.
The only ones who remember the twenties are now extremely elderly. The new thirties are, I fear, right around the corner because only the oldest remember them and what led to them. History goes in cycles.
And if you say popular usage has changed that, I say, fuck popular usage!
Don we now our gay apparrel
Tra la la
Tra la la
la la la
"Is deck the Halls about a transvestite, Grandpa?"
celibate does not mean not having sex
Only if "hacker" doesn't mean "cyburgler"
You wouldn't say, "as welcome as a turd in the proverbial punchbowl
You would if the phrase had become a cliche'.
Momentarily means for a moment, not in a moment.
momentarily
1. For a moment or an instant.
2. In a moment; very soon.
3. Moment by moment; progressively.
Healthy does not mean "healthful." Healthy is a condition, healthful is a property. Vegetable aren't healthy, they're dead. No food is healthy. Unlesss you have an eggplant that's doing push-ups. Push-ups are healthful.
1. possessing or enjoying good health or a sound and vigorous mentality: a healthy body; a healthy mind.
2. pertaining to or characteristic of good health, or a sound and vigorous mind: a healthy appearance; healthy attitudes.
3. conducive to good health; healthful: healthy recreations.
Race, creed, or color is wrong. Race and color, as used in this phrase, describe the same property. And "creed" is a stilted, outmoded way of saying "religion."
So in other words, it's perfectly literate buit don't say it because religion pisses the bar code guy off?
Don't you just hate it when you show your ignorance when ranting about other peoples' ignorance? Sorry, but I'll take the dictionary's word over yours any day.
They say "they always go in threes".
You should add links. To a funny site.
Shit
piss
fuck
cunt
cocksucker
motherfucker
tits
Even more tits
Your mom's tits
R.I.P.
Carlin was of Irish descent and was raised in the Roman Catholic faith.[22][23][24] - Wikipedia
Anybody who mentions athiesm in a thread about a Christian's death should be modded flamebait or troll. Have a littlke respect, for God's sake.
Sadly, judging by what's followed from the major networks in the years since, it seems to have been one of the last gasps of truly quality TV series.
I see you've never seen My Name Is Earl . It's a hell of a lot funnier than MASH ever was, and unlike the pretentious MASH can say serious things while making you laugh. Or if you're into doctor comedies, how about Scrubs?
so-called "comedy" show that needs a laugh track isn't funny enough to watch. Plus MASH was way too self-important; or at least became so later.
And the movie was a lot better than the TV show. Maybe that's because it had no laugh track?