When you start with bad logic, you get a bad result.
Guns are physical objects. Ideas are not. Ideas are therefore much more powerful than guns. You can't make a meaningful argument out of a forced analogy between the two.
I don't think anyone can define what a scumbag is.
It's more difficult than some people think. It's just as difficult as defining pornography. There's some people that know it when they see it. Funnily enough, to those people, nipples and clitorae are pornographic. To me, when I see guns, violence, and Microsoft Windows, those things look like pornography.
Without defining what a scumbag is, you cannot hope to censor them. If you misdefine what a scumbag is, then you'll certainly censor a person who doesn't deserve it.
The only solution is to allow all people to transmit, without censorship. We don't live in a safe society. The world is dangerous. Boo Hoo! All in all, I'd rather use my intellect to avoid or combat messages that I don't like. Every other animal has to use their feet to avoid a wolf's teeth that they don't like. What chance do the sheep have of ever "censoring" the actions of the wolves? None at all. The choice is clear: We can act like humans, using our brains to fight ideas we disagree with in an absolutely free forum, or we can act like animals and hope the wolf doesn't like the taste of woolly fleece.
I'm going to paraphrase the movie about Larry Flynt's life starring Woody Harrelson here. He said that he was a scumbag, the lowest of the lowlifes, and if the law protected his right to say what he wanted to say, then you be certain that the law would also protect fine upstanding citizens like ourselves.
Well, we're not really willing to simply *trust* that the law will protect us. We want to ensure that the scumbags can never be censored. If that happens, then we find upstanding citizens can also never be censored.
OK, my little experiment is over. Only two eagle-eyed people figured out that the comment I wrote (#98) is actually a slightly edited letter written by the Unabomber to David Gelernter.
I was amused to see that someone found it worthy of a positive moderation.
People with advanced degrees aren't as smart as they think they are. If you'd had any brains you would have realized that there are a lot of people out there who resent bitterly the way techno-nerds like you are changing the world. In the epilog of your book, "Mirror Worlds," you tried to justify your research by claiming that the developments you describe are inevitable,and that any college person can learn enough about computers to compete in a computer-dominated world. Apparently, people without a college degree don't count. In any case, being informed about computers won't enable anyone to preventinvasion of privacy (through computers), genetic engineering (towhich computers make an important contribution), environmental degradation through excessive economic growth (computers make an important contribution to economic growth) and so forth.
It's a small piece of irony that this scientist who published his manifesto of technology was seriously injured by another man who also published a manifesto.
I did test the battery. I was able to drain it at 100 ma for 4.5 hours, which is right on the money as far as the rating went. The battery was new, so I'm surprised that it performed at the rated level.
You know, I have a slightly different take on that. I see the value of Hypercard to be the first really popular 4GL type environment that was point-and-click programmable. Later environments like Power Builder, Visual Basic, and others owe a lot to the structure and features of Hypercard.
If you compare it to the competition at the time - for example the hugely difficult to use Clarion - Hypercard was just as powerful, and anybody could write a simple app with it.
Having said all that, I need to point out that I hate 4GL's and I love vi and c++.:-)
I'll second that. My four port Linksys switch runs very well.
I can't get it to switch with the keyboard though. I have to use the buttons on the front of the box. Their website wasn't any help to me either. I've never lost either a mouse or a keyboard in about 4 months of use.
You're right about the efficiency of charging batteries. I once did some numbers for charging NiCd batteries. 14 hours, 40ma - that makes 560 ma-hours in, and the battery was rated at 450 ma-hours. 80% efficient.
"As farAs far as I know, Javascript 1.5 has no capabilities to directly access the information on your harddrive, other than saving cookies and possibly files. as I know, Javascript 1.5 has no capabilities to directly access the information on your harddrive, other than saving cookies and possibly files."
Javascript can do file I/O in Mozilla. Take a look at this link
Micro$oft Word, Excel, and Outlook are very powerful because they contain scripting languages. That also makes them dangerous. What safeguards are there so that the ability to make a video game out of Mozilla can't be misused to format a million hard drives by remote control?
Anyway, it's not just Mozilla that could be powerful enough to make a video game. Tcl is a language that was designed to be embedded into programs as a scripting language. It's just not that remarkable that Mozilla has a scripting language powerful enough to build whatever you wanted.
You missed the line where I said the whole thing was sarchasm. I was giving you the exact same treatment that you were giving me. And guess what? You didn't like it, did you?
My little demonstration got you to admit that YOU DON'T KNOW ME.
How does that crow taste?
Think before you judge next time.
Gotta give you credit though - you flamed me with your real name and I respect that. The one other person who flamed me was an anonymous coward as well as a hypocrite.
You're exactly right. For a good synopsis on why it is impossible for the immune system to detect every single cancer, or for that matter to detect every single harmful infectuous invader, read GEB.
You seem to think that it's wrong to laugh at stupid people? I do not share that opinion. As I wrote above, we did indeed explain what a vector was to N****. You wrongly assumed that we didn't.
She NEVER FIGURED OUT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. You think it was difficult for N**** to admit her ignorance in front of us. Well, that was standard for her. She found it easy to admit ignorance, constantly.
I think you're pissed off because we were laughing at a female. If we were laughing at a dumb guy, you'd be right there laughing right along. Well, I've got news for you. I don't care what sex a person is. I laugh at stupidity wherever it is found. You on the other hand have some kind of sexism problem.
You want more proof? You hope that N**** found someone with decency. Well, that might be because you assume that a woman is incomplete on her own. Why should she have to find anyone at all? She may very well have found someone, but I have no idea. It's been 11 years since I last talked to her. Maybe you should find her a good man before she wastes her life as an old maid?
You're awfully judgemental. Do you suppose that I told the *entire* story? OK, OK I left the part out about how we all went down to the cafeteria right after that and had lunch. Shoot me.
If you assume that I didn't explain what a vector was after we were done chuckling, then I can only feel sorry for you. Perhaps someday you will learn that refraining from judgement before you know all the facts is what makes a mature person.
For some reason I've got to tell everyone about my old college grilfiend N****.
Once she and I were hanging out with my friend A***** (a woman) and we were talking about vectors. A***** was very cool, and she understood scientific stuff. She's still one of my favorite people on this particular planet. Anyway, my grilfiend N**** piped up and said "What's a Vector???" A***** and I just busted out laughing our heads off. We couldn't believe anyone would ask such a dumb question. Looking back on it, I can see that my relationship with N**** was star-crossed. I saved my lifetime committment for a fellow geek (of the college professor type).
So, I'm not exactly sure how this story is a response to your particular article. The two glasses of wine that I just drank compelled me to write it. I guess it fits into the general theme that it's not BOY against GIRL here folks, it's GEEK against whatever is anti-geek.
The situation will even out eventually. We geeks are making as much money as doctors (after doctors pay their hefty insurance bills that is...) so eventually the profession will get more respect. It seems to me that there's plenty of women becoming doctors, so maybe with the increasing prestige of technical positions will come increasing numbers of women.
Yes. I had a professor who was of the opinion that Genesis was written down from 585 BC onwards. That coincides with the capture of Israel by King Nebuchadnezzar (not the hovercraft:-) ) Before that it existed as an oral tradition.
For really old written stuff, check out the Sumerian, Egyptian, Indian, and Chinese cultures. I'm probably missing a bunch of other old cultures, but you get the point.
The puny amount of radiation onboard the Galileo spacecraft pales in comparison to the natural radiation around Jupiter.
If you were getting sad thinking that you'd need to have a protective suite to survive on Europa with all that plutonium from Galileo there, then I've got some news for you!
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When you start with bad logic, you get a bad result.
Guns are physical objects. Ideas are not. Ideas are therefore much more powerful than guns. You can't make a meaningful argument out of a forced analogy between the two.
I don't think anyone can define what a scumbag is.
It's more difficult than some people think. It's just as difficult as defining pornography. There's some people that know it when they see it. Funnily enough, to those people, nipples and clitorae are pornographic. To me, when I see guns, violence, and Microsoft Windows, those things look like pornography.
Without defining what a scumbag is, you cannot hope to censor them. If you misdefine what a scumbag is, then you'll certainly censor a person who doesn't deserve it.
The only solution is to allow all people to transmit, without censorship. We don't live in a safe society. The world is dangerous. Boo Hoo! All in all, I'd rather use my intellect to avoid or combat messages that I don't like. Every other animal has to use their feet to avoid a wolf's teeth that they don't like. What chance do the sheep have of ever "censoring" the actions of the wolves? None at all. The choice is clear: We can act like humans, using our brains to fight ideas we disagree with in an absolutely free forum, or we can act like animals and hope the wolf doesn't like the taste of woolly fleece.
I'm going to paraphrase the movie about Larry Flynt's life starring Woody Harrelson here. He said that he was a scumbag, the lowest of the lowlifes, and if the law protected his right to say what he wanted to say, then you be certain that the law would also protect fine upstanding citizens like ourselves.
Well, we're not really willing to simply *trust* that the law will protect us. We want to ensure that the scumbags can never be censored. If that happens, then we find upstanding citizens can also never be censored.
OK, my little experiment is over. Only two eagle-eyed people figured out that the comment I wrote (#98) is actually a slightly edited letter written by the Unabomber to David Gelernter.
I was amused to see that someone found it worthy of a positive moderation.
Yahoo mail allows specific filtering for your mailing lists to keep them out of the spam trap.
Yes, that's true. His manifesto was a rant against technology.
People with advanced degrees aren't as smart as they think they are. If you'd had any brains you would have realized that there are a lot of people out there who resent bitterly the way techno-nerds like you are changing the world. In the epilog of your book, "Mirror Worlds," you tried to justify your research by claiming that the developments you describe are inevitable,and that any college person can learn enough about computers to compete in a computer-dominated world. Apparently, people without a college degree don't count. In any case, being informed about computers won't enable anyone to preventinvasion of privacy (through computers), genetic engineering (towhich computers make an important contribution), environmental degradation through excessive economic growth (computers make an important contribution to economic growth) and so forth.
It's a small piece of irony that this scientist who published his manifesto of technology was seriously injured by another man who also published a manifesto.
The Unabomber.
Well, it was an assumption that you used your real name. As long as it wasn't anonymous coward then it's an acceptable primary key.
I did test the battery. I was able to drain it at 100 ma for 4.5 hours, which is right on the money as far as the rating went. The battery was new, so I'm surprised that it performed at the rated level.
You know, I have a slightly different take on that. I see the value of Hypercard to be the first really popular 4GL type environment that was point-and-click programmable. Later environments like Power Builder, Visual Basic, and others owe a lot to the structure and features of Hypercard.
:-)
If you compare it to the competition at the time - for example the hugely difficult to use Clarion - Hypercard was just as powerful, and anybody could write a simple app with it.
Having said all that, I need to point out that I hate 4GL's and I love vi and c++.
I'll second that. My four port Linksys switch runs very well.
I can't get it to switch with the keyboard though. I have to use the buttons on the front of the box. Their website wasn't any help to me either. I've never lost either a mouse or a keyboard in about 4 months of use.
By Linus, I thought you were going to post the penis bird! Doctor Fun is much better - +1 funny.
Isn't that something akin to "Man Bites Dog"?
You're right about the efficiency of charging batteries. I once did some numbers for charging NiCd batteries. 14 hours, 40ma - that makes 560 ma-hours in, and the battery was rated at 450 ma-hours. 80% efficient.
"As farAs far as I know, Javascript 1.5 has no capabilities to directly access the information on your harddrive, other than saving cookies and possibly files. as I know, Javascript 1.5 has no capabilities to directly access the information on your harddrive, other than saving cookies and possibly files."
Javascript can do file I/O in Mozilla. Take a look at this link
Micro$oft Word, Excel, and Outlook are very powerful because they contain scripting languages. That also makes them dangerous. What safeguards are there so that the ability to make a video game out of Mozilla can't be misused to format a million hard drives by remote control?
Anyway, it's not just Mozilla that could be powerful enough to make a video game. Tcl is a language that was designed to be embedded into programs as a scripting language. It's just not that remarkable that Mozilla has a scripting language powerful enough to build whatever you wanted.
You missed the line where I said the whole thing was sarchasm. I was giving you the exact same treatment that you were giving me. And guess what? You didn't like it, did you?
My little demonstration got you to admit that YOU DON'T KNOW ME.
How does that crow taste?
Think before you judge next time.
Gotta give you credit though - you flamed me with your real name and I respect that. The one other person who flamed me was an anonymous coward as well as a hypocrite.
You've never laughed when someone said something completely idiotic, when you weren't expecting it?
You fucking hypocrite.
You're exactly right. For a good synopsis on why it is impossible for the immune system to detect every single cancer, or for that matter to detect every single harmful infectuous invader, read GEB.
I forgot to add this to my other comment...
You seem to think that it's wrong to laugh at stupid people? I do not share that opinion. As I wrote above, we did indeed explain what a vector was to N****. You wrongly assumed that we didn't.
She NEVER FIGURED OUT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. You think it was difficult for N**** to admit her ignorance in front of us. Well, that was standard for her. She found it easy to admit ignorance, constantly.
I think you're pissed off because we were laughing at a female. If we were laughing at a dumb guy, you'd be right there laughing right along. Well, I've got news for you. I don't care what sex a person is. I laugh at stupidity wherever it is found. You on the other hand have some kind of sexism problem.
You want more proof? You hope that N**** found someone with decency. Well, that might be because you assume that a woman is incomplete on her own. Why should she have to find anyone at all? She may very well have found someone, but I have no idea. It's been 11 years since I last talked to her. Maybe you should find her a good man before she wastes her life as an old maid?
That's sarchasm for the clueless.
You're awfully judgemental. Do you suppose that I told the *entire* story? OK, OK I left the part out about how we all went down to the cafeteria right after that and had lunch. Shoot me.
If you assume that I didn't explain what a vector was after we were done chuckling, then I can only feel sorry for you. Perhaps someday you will learn that refraining from judgement before you know all the facts is what makes a mature person.
For some reason I've got to tell everyone about my old college grilfiend N****.
Once she and I were hanging out with my friend A***** (a woman) and we were talking about vectors. A***** was very cool, and she understood scientific stuff. She's still one of my favorite people on this particular planet. Anyway, my grilfiend N**** piped up and said "What's a Vector???" A***** and I just busted out laughing our heads off. We couldn't believe anyone would ask such a dumb question. Looking back on it, I can see that my relationship with N**** was star-crossed. I saved my lifetime committment for a fellow geek (of the college professor type).
So, I'm not exactly sure how this story is a response to your particular article. The two glasses of wine that I just drank compelled me to write it. I guess it fits into the general theme that it's not BOY against GIRL here folks, it's GEEK against whatever is anti-geek.
The situation will even out eventually. We geeks are making as much money as doctors (after doctors pay their hefty insurance bills that is...) so eventually the profession will get more respect. It seems to me that there's plenty of women becoming doctors, so maybe with the increasing prestige of technical positions will come increasing numbers of women.
Yes. I had a professor who was of the opinion that Genesis was written down from 585 BC onwards. That coincides with the capture of Israel by King Nebuchadnezzar (not the hovercraft :-) ) Before that it existed as an oral tradition.
For really old written stuff, check out the Sumerian, Egyptian, Indian, and Chinese cultures. I'm probably missing a bunch of other old cultures, but you get the point.
Stop the ignorance. Start with yourself!
The puny amount of radiation onboard the Galileo spacecraft pales in comparison to the natural radiation around Jupiter.
If you were getting sad thinking that you'd need to have a protective suite to survive on Europa with all that plutonium from Galileo there, then I've got some news for you!