That's a great story, but it's complete and utter bullshit. Most people would not just flea from some indie developer because an image in their game was suddenly not working. The communities of indie developers are in fact quite understanding.
As far as revenue goes, if you lost hundreds of dollars in revenue from a quarter of your users fleeing overnight. it would mean that you were in fact regularly making a serious chunk of change moving you out of indie status, to the point where you should be showing a lot more competence or be able to afford someone who has some.
Troubleshooting 101 is to run the app with all add-ons turned off in the browser. It shouldn't have taken you more than 30 minutes to find the problem.
You may have had an issue, but this story is sensationalized garbage, all from an AC no less..
So do they want privacy or not? On one hand they're claiming to serve up images by proxy to protect users privacy, on the other hand, they're using Google+ and youtube to force users to display their real name.
We had the issue where Google started forcibly customizing google services for you based on you signing up for Google+. When I signed up a couple years ago, it broke my news archive search, because it would only search news sites in Korea, and in Korean despite having everything in English and my account being created in Canada (I happen to be in Korea). While several months later that was actually fixed, they also went ahead and first removed the insanely useful timeline from the archive, and then just recently killed off the archive entirely, because who could ever want to read news more than 30 days old.
Butchering services, heavy handed user manipulation, my patience with google is quickly wearing thin.
"Who says Wikipedians don't have a sense of humor? " No one, except some lame submitter trying to make a hook for an article by linking to some wikipedia page that's been around forever.
Never seen them index generic tags. People can write all kinds of random shit in tags, unless they were linked to accounts, there is no reason for them to even be indexed.
yes, they can follow your profile to friends profiles and check any public photos they have, but again that requires someone have a facebook account in the first place. This was a discussion about people without facebook accounts, and if someone just typed a non-account name as a tag on a photo. Those don't show up in searches, so doing so does in no way lead back to you.
The OP was claiming that it was basically a requirement that you signed up for facebook so that you could manage photos tagged of you since people could tag you in photos even if you didn't have an account. I was pointing out that if you don't have an account making generic tags like that would in no way lead back to you. Those names aren't searchable and since you don't have a facebook account the HR person is extremely unlikely to know that that person is your friend and check their account on the whim that some random person might have pictures of you. If they did, they'd take a hundred years to hire someone by the time they had the whole department trolling through every single facebook account ever on the chance someone somewhere might have a picture of you.
But if you tag someone in a photo who doesn't have a profile, it won't matter. It doesn't link to anything.
It's a shame you're on a tech site but so ignorant of the technology that you're speaking out against. The way HR sees photos of your on facebook is because they find your profile and you have privacy set to public, and photos of you that friends tagged, which you approved are also sitting there publicly on your wall.
They don't find them via your friends profiles. They find them because of the connection to your profile. So if you aren't on facebook, there is no profile for them to connect to, and they won't be showing up in any searches.
because instead of keeping track of time zones you'd have to keep track of whenever everyone got up. It's the same problem. Instead we'd have multiple "clocks" showing us what the business time was in each "zone" so that we could schedule stuff accordingly.
Population density is only part of it, raw population numbers are also a factor (volume). 25 million in the metro area, and that 17k is an average there are areas much higher than that in Seoul.
No, the issue is the repeated and overused comparison of 90% of new tech gadgets to minority report by idiot journalists who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag.
Wasn't one of the protections for google being a search engine the fact that it was indiscriminate? All it did was use robots to report information that was out there.
With all the massaging of search results and removing of links and other things it's becoming increasingly obvious that google can and will modify those results on a direct basis rather than simply giving "search results"
I think that whatever protections they've enjoyed under the various IP laws and I'm sure other kinds of laws where their defense is "we're just returning results" should be removed and let them battle it out in courts with the various entities affected.
obviously facebook has some mod points. Can anyone dispute this on a factual basis? The point is, Facebook likes to jerk its users around as much or more than they're trying to claim this person would be doing.
It's funny enough that facebook can't possibly access your "other" messages without forcing you to install facebook messenger (which end up being viewable in the facebook app itself), but you can't turn off notificatinos permanently on facebook messenger. Any time you click the box which says "turn off notifications" instead of just doing it , it says "okay, we'll turn off notifications for 8 hours and then turn them back on automatically for you"
wtf?? Talk about dirty pool.
Luckily newer versions of android allow you override this and just stop receiving all notifications from an app permanently.
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No you didn't.
That's a great story, but it's complete and utter bullshit.
Most people would not just flea from some indie developer because an image in their game was suddenly not working. The communities of indie developers are in fact quite understanding.
As far as revenue goes, if you lost hundreds of dollars in revenue from a quarter of your users fleeing overnight. it would mean that you were in fact regularly making a serious chunk of change moving you out of indie status, to the point where you should be showing a lot more competence or be able to afford someone who has some.
Troubleshooting 101 is to run the app with all add-ons turned off in the browser. It shouldn't have taken you more than 30 minutes to find the problem.
You may have had an issue, but this story is sensationalized garbage, all from an AC no less..
I'm not shocked at all that this came from Timothy, I can only guess he must have been on the phone with kdawson at the time he posted it.
So do they want privacy or not?
On one hand they're claiming to serve up images by proxy to protect users privacy, on the other hand, they're using Google+ and youtube to force users to display their real name.
We had the issue where Google started forcibly customizing google services for you based on you signing up for Google+. When I signed up a couple years ago, it broke my news archive search, because it would only search news sites in Korea, and in Korean despite having everything in English and my account being created in Canada (I happen to be in Korea). While several months later that was actually fixed, they also went ahead and first removed the insanely useful timeline from the archive, and then just recently killed off the archive entirely, because who could ever want to read news more than 30 days old.
Butchering services, heavy handed user manipulation, my patience with google is quickly wearing thin.
"Who says Wikipedians don't have a sense of humor? "
No one, except some lame submitter trying to make a hook for an article by linking to some wikipedia page that's been around forever.
and the first thing you would need to do is not make assumptions. The MR doesn't stand for mister.
Wow.. you're such an interesting edgy hipster. What do I have to do to get you to father my children?
Maybe then they'd come up sooner than 5 days later than everywhere else..
a little more strict? That's like saying hitler had a slight preference for blue eyes...
Kdawson has thankfully been gone for awhile now, unfortunately timothy picked up right where he left-off. I'm half convinced they are the same person.
Never seen them index generic tags. People can write all kinds of random shit in tags, unless they were linked to accounts, there is no reason for them to even be indexed.
yes, they can follow your profile to friends profiles and check any public photos they have, but again that requires someone have a facebook account in the first place. This was a discussion about people without facebook accounts, and if someone just typed a non-account name as a tag on a photo. Those don't show up in searches, so doing so does in no way lead back to you.
The OP was claiming that it was basically a requirement that you signed up for facebook so that you could manage photos tagged of you since people could tag you in photos even if you didn't have an account. I was pointing out that if you don't have an account making generic tags like that would in no way lead back to you. Those names aren't searchable and since you don't have a facebook account the HR person is extremely unlikely to know that that person is your friend and check their account on the whim that some random person might have pictures of you. If they did, they'd take a hundred years to hire someone by the time they had the whole department trolling through every single facebook account ever on the chance someone somewhere might have a picture of you.
Holy fucking reading comprehension batman.
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He was talking about people tagging people who don't have facebook accounts.
So the answer to your question is: You
But if you tag someone in a photo who doesn't have a profile, it won't matter. It doesn't link to anything.
It's a shame you're on a tech site but so ignorant of the technology that you're speaking out against. The way HR sees photos of your on facebook is because they find your profile and you have privacy set to public, and photos of you that friends tagged, which you approved are also sitting there publicly on your wall.
They don't find them via your friends profiles. They find them because of the connection to your profile.
So if you aren't on facebook, there is no profile for them to connect to, and they won't be showing up in any searches.
because instead of keeping track of time zones you'd have to keep track of whenever everyone got up. It's the same problem.
Instead we'd have multiple "clocks" showing us what the business time was in each "zone" so that we could schedule stuff accordingly.
i drove down I95 to NY from Canada many years ago, and did 100mph a significant part of the way. Interstate is great.
Recaptcha from google has been broken for awhile. I had it implemented on my site and got about a dozen spam sign-ups a day.
The moment I switched to a local "mycaptcha", which should have been easier to OCR, they stopped dead.
Population density is only part of it, raw population numbers are also a factor (volume). 25 million in the metro area, and that 17k is an average there are areas much higher than that in Seoul.
The crappy grammar would kill him before he even would got there.
No, the issue is the repeated and overused comparison of 90% of new tech gadgets to minority report by idiot journalists who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag.
Seriously have journalists never seen any other SF movie?
It's like the only movie that's ever had a futuristic interface in it at all.
The moment I see some mouthbreather mention minority report I stop caring about anything they've written.
The 80s called, they want their mood ring back..
Wasn't one of the protections for google being a search engine the fact that it was indiscriminate?
All it did was use robots to report information that was out there.
With all the massaging of search results and removing of links and other things it's becoming increasingly obvious that google can and will modify those results on a direct basis rather than simply giving "search results"
I think that whatever protections they've enjoyed under the various IP laws and I'm sure other kinds of laws where their defense is "we're just returning results" should be removed and let them battle it out in courts with the various entities affected.
obviously facebook has some mod points. Can anyone dispute this on a factual basis? The point is, Facebook likes to jerk its users around as much or more than they're trying to claim this person would be doing.
It's funny enough that facebook can't possibly access your "other" messages without forcing you to install facebook messenger (which end up being viewable in the facebook app itself), but you can't turn off notificatinos permanently on facebook messenger. Any time you click the box which says "turn off notifications" instead of just doing it , it says "okay, we'll turn off notifications for 8 hours and then turn them back on automatically for you"
wtf??
Talk about dirty pool.
Luckily newer versions of android allow you override this and just stop receiving all notifications from an app permanently.
florida called, they want their title back.