Here in the UK, this has been already happening with British Telecom (BT) for years.
I remember being on 'unlimited' dial-up and getting a letter saying that my speeds are going to be throttled at peak times due to heavy bandwidth usage.
Right now the divisibility of Bitcoin is 8 decimals. This can be extended if need be in the future. The placing of the decimal point is completely arbitrary.
There will be (in the future) only 21 million bitcoins, but currently there is 6 million. I tried to use the SI prefix mega to emphasise the fact of the decimal's placing to be arbitrary... But maybe it came out ambiguously. Internally 1 BC is stored as 100 000 000 in a 64 bit integer.
Ergo theoretically we could run the entire economy on a single bitcoin:)
The guy in our group (Donald Norman) that handles the business side of things is well educated in finance and economy. He's been deeply looking into that for a while now and has been communicating with Ben Friedman. Our group has for a long time been in contact with an economics professor, Adam Bragar. He's been specifically following and studying Bitcoin from an economics perspective too.
I'm Amir Taaki from this article. You lump us all in as Ayn Rand right wing 'nerds'. Maybe you should google my nickname 'genjix'... then you can see my past history for the last 10 years working below minimum wage on free software, and my writings on Wikipedia about building a better future for all.
You're acting like politicians who smear there enemies by pointing at anyone they dislike and shouting 'TERRORISTS!'
We're all very diverse in the Bitcoin community, but we recognise the potential of this currency how others recognise the potential of something like Esperanto or Linux. Your Ad Homineum attacks on our personalities are counter-productive for any kind of sensible debate about the merits of this system.
Would love to use these features in the new C++, but unfortunately none of the major compilers support the new for-syntax, in class initialization, deleting members and explicit specification of base class methods.
Also I totally don't understand why enum class no longer casts to ints... it totally makes using binary flags impossible unless I revert back to using the old style enums. But then I need to do the ugly namespace myenums { enum myenum { foo = 4, bar = 8... }; } hack which makes nesting inside classes impossible -_-
I have trouble finding the source but there's a language where the people use compass directions (north, east) instead of relative (in front, to the left) for describing their environment. If they ask you to move over in the car, they'll ask you to move south-east (depending on the cars direction). The consequence is that they always remember their location. A study was done where it was found westerners going in a hotel room corridor-maze got lost, but the absolute position people did not.
The pihraha language doesn't have numbers (this is disputed though) and the guy claims that it's impossible for them to learn basic arithmetic.
Theres more but i couldnt be asked to dig them out. if you're really interested then find genjix on freenode and ill happily go to the effort to find you all the source info
Ad homineum. Doesn't make your argument valid. Yes, I speak Persian too.
Since real speaker numbers are hard to come by, lets use a better metric: Latin Wikipedia has 47,000 articles. Esperanto Wikipedia has 132,000 articles making it the 21st largest.
Funny how I hear these tired worn arguments from people who can't speak Esperanto and clearly know nothing of it. It's not a western language. Over the years concepts worldwide have been merged into it through usage. And likely it'll change in the future.
Latin by comparison is a purely western product. And very very difficult to learn. Esperanto is easy, yet fully expressive due to it's clever grammar system.
Off the top of my head you could say ruecii which means something like 'becoming the quality of redness' or katestrigi which is 'causing someone to become a master of cats' or liberece means 'doing something in a freedom loving spirit'... Just random ideas that've popped into my head- things like this are common to use.
This language took me just 2 weeks to learn. It is fully expressive and totally logical- in my eyes as a programmer & mathematician it is beautiful. You can express things not possible in English even.
English speakers often forget there's this whole other world out there. Imagine how unproductive it is that many nations are all working in parallel.
Any questions? Go to lernu.net forums or #esperanto on freenode.
Esperanto is EXTREMELY easy to learn. Apart from not having any exceptions which hinder language learning, it uses a system of prefixes and suffixes. This way you can start with a very small vocabulary base and build words. Often I just invent new words on the fly to express a feeling or concept which might not have an English equivalent.
After 2 weeks of obsessive dedicated study I could speak it. A few months of occasional chatting and I use it naturally without effort in an expressive way.
Example:
sana = health
sanulo (san + ulo) = healthy person
sanulejo (san + ul + ejo) = place for healthy people
malsanulejo (mal + san + ul + ejo) = hospital (place for unhealthy people)
The vision of Esperanto is commonly misconstrued as the whole world speaking one language. This is not the goal at all. Esperanto is an AUXILLARY language- a language in addition to your native language just for the purpose of inter- communication with other cultures.
Esperanto is often labelled as 'artificial', but it is anything but. The language evolves according to usage by people. Only the core grammar/10 rules remain fixed.
Science papers, nobel nominated works of poetry and other works have all tested and used extensively the language demonstrating that it works. A century of usage has molded it.
If you believe in preserving local languages, then the obstacle is the difficulty in learning current (transient) international languages which are hard and discriminatory (Esperanto is neutral to all countries and belongs to nobody). Encouraging it's use would help promote local languages, instead of conglomerating together with huge behemoth steamroller languages.
I encourage you to approach the topic with an open mind and do some research first. Most people just like to immediately react emotionally and label it with preconceptions. Yet it's the saddest thing we're in a language extinction epoch. Here's a tool that can help us.
"""Four primary schools in Britain, with some 230 pupils, are currently following a course in "propedeutic Esperanto"—that is, instruction in Esperanto to raise language awareness and accelerate subsequent learning of foreign languages—under the supervision of the University of Manchester.[34] Studies have been conducted in New Zealand,[35] United States,[36][37][38]Germany,[39] Italy[40] and Australia.[41] The results of these studies were favorable and demonstrated that studying Esperanto before another foreign language expedites the acquisition of the other, natural, language. This appears to be because learning subsequent foreign languages is easier than learning one's first, while the use of a grammatically simple and culturally flexible auxiliary language like Esperanto lessens the first-language learning hurdle. In one study,[42] a group of European secondary school students studied Esperanto for one year, then French for three years, and ended up with a significantly better command of French than a control group, who studied French for all four years. Similar results have been found for other combinations of native and second languages, as well as for arrangements in which the course of study was reduced to two years, of which six months is spent learning Esperanto."""
Not only is Esperanto good for the 'humanrace', it's very beneficial and practical to a fully selfish person.
By learning the language you help rewire your brain in such a way as to accelerate subsequent language learning. And it is faster to learn Esperanto followed by your choice language, than just dedicatedly learning your choice language. Fact.
You should get in contact with Lorea. They have a site https://n-1.cc/ which is doing lots of nice things. AFAIK they are based/working with Elgg and moving fast.
When Julian Assange first released Wikileaks he said that seeing what was being done with Wikipedia gave him the idea that if you just put the stuff out there then the crowds will mold and form it into something useful. He expected blogs and independent third parties to spring up out of the woodwork. So Wikileaks published the data and.... nothing.
Not even the newspapers picked up on the leaks because of the bystander effect. No news agency is willing to invest the resources and waits for someone else to do the hard work. Everything stalls and it falls into obscurity. The crowds just ignore it since there's this overwhelming heap of obscure data.
Having learnt through several iterations, Wikileaks now bids leaks to a news agency who gets a lock in period to go through all the data, pick out the juiciest stories and publish. After that Wikileaks releases the full data together with indicators and summaries of the data to direct the crowds.
Just dumping a huge mess of contextless data does nothing. You need contextual hints so people know where to start. You need experts to translate the internal jargon.
Slashdot Mirror
Here in the UK, this has been already happening with British Telecom (BT) for years.
I remember being on 'unlimited' dial-up and getting a letter saying that my speeds are going to be throttled at peak times due to heavy bandwidth usage.
Misrepresentation at it's best.
Right now the divisibility of Bitcoin is 8 decimals. This can be extended if need be in the future. The placing of the decimal point is completely arbitrary.
There will be (in the future) only 21 million bitcoins, but currently there is 6 million. I tried to use the SI prefix mega to emphasise the fact of the decimal's placing to be arbitrary... But maybe it came out ambiguously. Internally 1 BC is stored as 100 000 000 in a 64 bit integer.
Ergo theoretically we could run the entire economy on a single bitcoin :)
The guy in our group (Donald Norman) that handles the business side of things is well educated in finance and economy. He's been deeply looking into that for a while now and has been communicating with Ben Friedman. Our group has for a long time been in contact with an economics professor, Adam Bragar. He's been specifically following and studying Bitcoin from an economics perspective too.
I'm Amir Taaki from this article. You lump us all in as Ayn Rand right wing 'nerds'. Maybe you should google my nickname 'genjix'... then you can see my past history for the last 10 years working below minimum wage on free software, and my writings on Wikipedia about building a better future for all.
You're acting like politicians who smear there enemies by pointing at anyone they dislike and shouting 'TERRORISTS!'
We're all very diverse in the Bitcoin community, but we recognise the potential of this currency how others recognise the potential of something like Esperanto or Linux. Your Ad Homineum attacks on our personalities are counter-productive for any kind of sensible debate about the merits of this system.
Would love to use these features in the new C++, but unfortunately none of the major compilers support the new for-syntax, in class initialization, deleting members and explicit specification of base class methods.
Also I totally don't understand why enum class no longer casts to ints... it totally makes using binary flags impossible unless I revert back to using the old style enums. But then I need to do the ugly namespace myenums { enum myenum { foo = 4, bar = 8 ... }; } hack which makes nesting inside classes impossible -_-
It is possible to run Bitcoin through Freenet. There's even a project underway to do that.
I might have a reason to start buying music if that's the case.
btw to anyone who wants to try: post when logged out, then refresh the page. Your post magically disappears.
Where's the video? This story is old news from 7 days ago. Slashdot new's quality is declining...
And please fix the double space lining problem; it's annoying. And why hide posts? Everybody's comments below the 'line' get ignored.
Also I can no longer post when not logged in. Old slashdot was better because 'it works'. Don't fix what isn't broken IMO.
See bitcoin which is experiencing massive growth (see bottom graph) with an economy of $4.7 million.
Slashdot article. Wikipedia article.
I never understood why photographs can be copyrighted. If somebody takes a picture of me, then why do they own the picture?
I bet the famous Afghan girl never saw any of those millions that the photographer did.
Most likely they are. But the law doesn't serve us plebians. The law seeks to enforce the corporate order.
Hey,
I have trouble finding the source but there's a language where the people use compass directions (north, east) instead of relative (in front, to the left) for describing their environment. If they ask you to move over in the car, they'll ask you to move south-east (depending on the cars direction). The consequence is that they always remember their location. A study was done where it was found westerners going in a hotel room corridor-maze got lost, but the absolute position people did not.
The pihraha language doesn't have numbers (this is disputed though) and the guy claims that it's impossible for them to learn basic arithmetic.
Theres more but i couldnt be asked to dig them out. if you're really interested then find genjix on freenode and ill happily go to the effort to find you all the source info
Why do we want to learn Linux?
I don't see reports saying the world, or computing is going to be based on that operating system.
What I think is, you feel so stupid for being the only one who learned it, your trying to get others to also.
Sort of like religious freaks and druggies.
I'll pass, thanks though.
Ad homineum. Doesn't make your argument valid. Yes, I speak Persian too.
Since real speaker numbers are hard to come by, lets use a better metric: Latin Wikipedia has 47,000 articles. Esperanto Wikipedia has 132,000 articles making it the 21st largest.
You need to read this article to educate yourself:
http://www.mondeto.com/esperanto-a-western-language.html
Gather facts before making incorrect assertions.
Ho, bone :) Mi jxus konsciis ke li afisxis pri Red Dwarf..
Se mi pruvus tion, cxu mi pravus? Ke cxu miaj argumentoj pravus pro mia esperanta parolado?
Japanese singer singing Esperanto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4JO7wFvOxM
Turkish movie in Esperanto:
http://vimeo.com/13356766
Chinese government newscast in Esperanto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5uFAM15SDA
Funny how I hear these tired worn arguments from people who can't speak Esperanto and clearly know nothing of it. It's not a western language. Over the years concepts worldwide have been merged into it through usage. And likely it'll change in the future.
Latin:
- EXTREMELY difficult.
- inconsistent.
- Purely western.
Latin by comparison is a purely western product. And very very difficult to learn. Esperanto is easy, yet fully expressive due to it's clever grammar system.
Your post sounds like just a psychological outburst as described in this essay by Claude Piron:
http://claudepiron.free.fr/articlesenanglais/reactions.htm
Except 2 million people speak Esperanto NOW. Hardly no-one speaks Lojban. Esperanto has proven itself already and is 'good enough'
damn, slashdot is cut out the unicode letters.
ruecii = rugxecigxi (x represents a ^ on the letters)
Off the top of my head you could say ruecii which means something like 'becoming the quality of redness' or katestrigi which is 'causing someone to become a master of cats' or liberece means 'doing something in a freedom loving spirit'... Just random ideas that've popped into my head- things like this are common to use.
This language took me just 2 weeks to learn. It is fully expressive and totally logical- in my eyes as a programmer & mathematician it is beautiful. You can express things not possible in English even.
English speakers often forget there's this whole other world out there. Imagine how unproductive it is that many nations are all working in parallel.
Any questions? Go to lernu.net forums or #esperanto on freenode.
Esperanto is EXTREMELY easy to learn. Apart from not having any exceptions which hinder language learning, it uses a system of prefixes and suffixes. This way you can start with a very small vocabulary base and build words. Often I just invent new words on the fly to express a feeling or concept which might not have an English equivalent.
After 2 weeks of obsessive dedicated study I could speak it. A few months of occasional chatting and I use it naturally without effort in an expressive way.
Example:
sana = health
sanulo (san + ulo) = healthy person
sanulejo (san + ul + ejo) = place for healthy people
malsanulejo (mal + san + ul + ejo) = hospital (place for unhealthy people)
The vision of Esperanto is commonly misconstrued as the whole world speaking one language. This is not the goal at all. Esperanto is an AUXILLARY language- a language in addition to your native language just for the purpose of inter- communication with other cultures.
Esperanto is often labelled as 'artificial', but it is anything but. The language evolves according to usage by people. Only the core grammar/10 rules remain fixed.
Science papers, nobel nominated works of poetry and other works have all tested and used extensively the language demonstrating that it works. A century of usage has molded it.
If you believe in preserving local languages, then the obstacle is the difficulty in learning current (transient) international languages which are hard and discriminatory (Esperanto is neutral to all countries and belongs to nobody). Encouraging it's use would help promote local languages, instead of conglomerating together with huge behemoth steamroller languages.
I encourage you to approach the topic with an open mind and do some research first. Most people just like to immediately react emotionally and label it with preconceptions. Yet it's the saddest thing we're in a language extinction epoch. Here's a tool that can help us.
"""Four primary schools in Britain, with some 230 pupils, are currently following a course in "propedeutic Esperanto"—that is, instruction in Esperanto to raise language awareness and accelerate subsequent learning of foreign languages—under the supervision of the University of Manchester.[34] Studies have been conducted in New Zealand,[35] United States,[36][37][38]Germany,[39] Italy[40] and Australia.[41] The results of these studies were favorable and demonstrated that studying Esperanto before another foreign language expedites the acquisition of the other, natural, language. This appears to be because learning subsequent foreign languages is easier than learning one's first, while the use of a grammatically simple and culturally flexible auxiliary language like Esperanto lessens the first-language learning hurdle. In one study,[42] a group of European secondary school students studied Esperanto for one year, then French for three years, and ended up with a significantly better command of French than a control group, who studied French for all four years. Similar results have been found for other combinations of native and second languages, as well as for arrangements in which the course of study was reduced to two years, of which six months is spent learning Esperanto."""
Not only is Esperanto good for the 'humanrace', it's very beneficial and practical to a fully selfish person.
By learning the language you help rewire your brain in such a way as to accelerate subsequent language learning. And it is faster to learn Esperanto followed by your choice language, than just dedicatedly learning your choice language. Fact.
haha I love your dad.
You should get in contact with Lorea. They have a site https://n-1.cc/ which is doing lots of nice things. AFAIK they are based/working with Elgg and moving fast.
When Julian Assange first released Wikileaks he said that seeing what was being done with Wikipedia gave him the idea that if you just put the stuff out there then the crowds will mold and form it into something useful. He expected blogs and independent third parties to spring up out of the woodwork. So Wikileaks published the data and.... nothing.
Not even the newspapers picked up on the leaks because of the bystander effect. No news agency is willing to invest the resources and waits for someone else to do the hard work. Everything stalls and it falls into obscurity. The crowds just ignore it since there's this overwhelming heap of obscure data.
Having learnt through several iterations, Wikileaks now bids leaks to a news agency who gets a lock in period to go through all the data, pick out the juiciest stories and publish. After that Wikileaks releases the full data together with indicators and summaries of the data to direct the crowds.
Just dumping a huge mess of contextless data does nothing. You need contextual hints so people know where to start. You need experts to translate the internal jargon.