"Anyone who still thinks that drug-related problems are caused by their prohibition is an idiot."
Well, I'm a professional in this area, and I have to say your observation is moronic.
If there was a stronger word than moronic, one that would indicate a need for society to sterilize you to prevent you from furthering your genepool and prevent your offspring from reducing the collective intelligence of the world I would use it.
Fuck I don't even have to be a professional to observe that you're drawing your conclusions from a FUCKING TELEVISION SHOW. You lose the right to comment on that basis alone.
That said, your comment betrays your ignorance. Most people who abuse drugs (NOT use recreationally, but ABUSE) have underlying mental health problems. This has been established conclusively and is not open for debate.
Criminalizing drugs has turned what should be a public health problem into a criminal one, and it's not a good change.
Do yourself a favor, get educated or shut the fuck up. And DO NOT attempt to claim you re educated, you wouldn't have said "watch intervention" as though that were an intelligent observation if you were educated.
"We need our young people to know that we are more than willing to throw them into oblivion if they get high even once"
So only one mistake, no second chances for YOUNG people?
Well, I say we need our imbeciles to know we are more than willing to ridicule them for their overwhelmingly stupid commentary, such as your for instance.
"A person can become (psychologically) addicted to anything."
No, that's called dependence, or abuse, not addiction.
That being said, only people who don't know WTF they're talking about even use "addiction", professionals retired the term years ago, and now use "dependence" or "abuse".
In other words, if you use the word "addicted", that is proof you don't know WTF you're talking about.
"Odd how we've gotten along for so long without the medication and professional counseling eh? "
You've never talked to anyone outside your field regarding mental health have you?
Regardless, your opinion is moronic.
"My mom has been hospitalized twice for depression with several weeks of suicide watch under her belt...realized its just a cycle that will continue because she is so ashamed of her pathetic loser ass kid, and she prefers offing herself to being the parent of such a loser and there is really no point in fighting it"
"Ah, so you don't realise it. Hey I can do this kinda crap too!"
No, because it's not true. I can't "realise" something that isn't true, so no, you fail.
Again.
"This is a website devoted to FLOSS, but not solely devoted to FLOSS!"
No it isn't. It's just a website that has some OSS content. Claiming it is "devoted" without any evidence apart from your opinion, which you're proven to be worthless because you're a liar, doesn't make it so.
"You are such a girl"
Wow, not only are you a liar, but you're a bigot and a misogynist. How fucking pathetic.
And I thought you couldn't make yourself look any worse.
"Got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning, did we?"
NO, I just hate the menagerie of stupid fucks that make declarations like that idiot did, while the audience KNOWS he's talking out of his ass but approves anyway because he's pandering to their biases.
"I vote your post Rant of the Week, and as a bonus, your sig gets the Bad Taste Sig of the Month Award. "
Who cares? I certainly don't give a fuck about your opinion, so why did you share it with someone you know would only enjoy how much it pisses your loser ass off?
"but otherwise, deep sea drilling hasn't contributed much to our scientific understanding of this species."
Really?
And just exactly how the fuck would you know that? Are you some secret marine biologist squid expert that has intimate working knowledge of EVERY facet of oil exploration/squid research?
No, you're not.
You're some fucking kid running his mouth about something he's only able to speculate on, pandering to the bias of the audience.
But you have NO FUCKING IDEA how much oil exploration has contributed to squid research, so stop lying with pathetic statements like "otherwise, deep sea drilling hasn't contributed much to our scientific understanding of this species" that you can't possibly know to be true.
Don't you think that, as a nation, you ought to be protecting individuals who are on the receiving end of such treatment or are you going to advocate torture, gladiatorial contests and being thrown to the lions as acceptable punishments?
I am continually astounded that an advanced nation can condone such barbaric behaviour and then be affronted when other nations do not choose to follow the 'American' way.
This makes me want to scream.
Please, please find me a place on earth where prisons, which are usually populated by criminals, isn't a place where the inmates abuse each other in all manners imaginable.
I'll wait.
So I'll ass, why, exactly, are you leveling a criticism at America that is applicable to virtually every country on earth. You say
"I am continually astounded that an advanced nation can condone such barbaric behaviour"
I could examine any countries prison system and say this. And sadly I'd be right.
But you level this criticism at "America" specifically, which leads to ignore that, overall, prison is a very, very unpleasant place to be.
But you have confused losing to the inmates cunning with "condoning". The inmates are not cattle to be herded, they are actively working against the guards to find ways to exploit the system.
But your final line made you out the troll you are
"This behaviour actually makes terrorists look civilised."
"And you do realize that MS Windows has nothing to do with nerds, right?"
No.
"And that FLOSS and Linux is kinda important here on "/.", right?"
To you. I couldn't care less, and there's plenty of stuff to catch my interest. Maybe you should come to grips with the fact that no mater how your sorry loser ass tries to show it, this IS NOT A WEBSITE DEVOTED TO OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE.
Cry to your mom about it, but that won't change it, and it sure as fuck won't make your retarded objections to my visiting any less retarded.
"You meant; "I am too stupid to comprehent (sic) smart people"
At least you finally admit it, but you really shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
You linked to one article that is a year and a half old, and talks about plans that in the mean time have not been implemented in any way and you use THAT to justify to yourself that they're patent trolls.
I don't see anything in your post that demonstrates that at all.
What I see is you making a specious connection between parts being supplied by different companies than MS being some proof they don't make machines.
However, you, intentionally I'm certain, ignore that assembling other companies parts into a whole does in fact constitute a machine by anyone's measure.
Except yours, apparently, but that essentially disqualifies your measure from consideration.
Or are you genuinely arguing that assembling another companies parts into a device does not constitute "making a machine".
"You mention preference, but preference is not measured, it's inferred. Especially when you're studying animals."
This could be the most wrong assertion I have ever seen.
Not only is it mose definitely measured, it is measured exactingly, like any other scientific discipline.
You are completely wrong about this, and I am an expert in the field, so argue if you like, just be warned you are totally wrong.
" Going by measured behaviors there are not huge sex-based behavioral differences within many complex animals (again, leaving aside actual reproduction)."
You are, again, factually wrong. But even if you weren't the "size" of the difference is irrelevant. Pebbles start avalanches, and behavior is the same. SMALL changes make a BIG difference.
"Your argument that the gender split in CS is biologically based might make sense if there hadn't recently been a much more even gender split (did you read the article?)."
GOD DAMMIT. I NEVER MADE ANY ARGUMENT REGARDING CS. And yes, I did read the article, It DOES NOT say what you claim, but I don't really care to be honest.
My argument was that biological differences can influence preference.
THAT IS ALL. Read what you're replying to please.
One last thing
"But if you look at complex cordate animals closer to humans, for instance other mammals, I think you'll find that aside from the biomechanics of reproduction the behavioral differences between the sexes are slight."
No.
"A female wolf is the same size as a male wolf and just as capable of hunting, for example. "
Not really.
And why are you arguing "just as capable" when the point is "does not prefer" NOT "cannot do the job"?
You do understand that NO ONE is making the claim that women are less caable, don't you?
And you do understand that the point ACTUALLY BEING MADE is that women may have different preferences than men which you haven't even addressed?
And you realize that your main points are all wrong?
The point is, biological differences lead to differences in PREFERENCE, NOT ABILITY.
Stop being offended and read what you're replying to, thanks, you have completely missed a nice discussion.
You'll notice a total of three loctions where I used caps in a relatively long post.
So I have to wonder why you'd say "Hey I'm not the one using all caps" to me since I didn't do anything approaching "using all caps" and you implication that I did is both wrong and moronic.
"Actually you are wrong. There REALLY are plenty of reasons why an employer cannot fire you."
You seem to be extemely stupid. But since you think I'm "wrong" please point to the exact statement that you misread to make you believe that I was claiming anything in opposition to your point.
Oh right, there isn't anything.
In fact, not only are you so incredibly fucking stupid that you tell me I'm wrong, you then go on to make the exact point I already made while claiming I was wrong.
Are you genuinely retarded?
Here, get someone smarter than you to re-read this, so you realize what a dumbass you are.
Actually, they can certainly fire you for NO reason.
"There are lots of reasons that they can't fire you"
Which are not "NO reason". Do you understand the difference? YOu don't appear to.
As you say, if they fire you for A reason that is wrong, like race, illness, or something else illegal, then yes, you have action. But you have to prove it.
You're making MY point, and you're so fucking stupid you don't realize it.
God damn that's dumb, and embarassing for you to boot.
"Although all the employer needs to say to work around all those reasons is "Your services are no longer needed." Which it looks like you tried to say "
No you fucking moron, I DID say it, but as I've proven, you can't read or understand text worth a fuck, so you didn't realize it.
In fact, HERE IT IS AGAIN.
So when you say, they "don't get to fire you for no reason" you are not only factually wrong, you're wrong in practice. They frequently do fire you for "no" reason, even when they have a reason, so there is no way for you to bring an action that you can win
The only thing unclear is why your mother didn't abort you before you embarassed your family like you have.
As to being a "richard", don't you think telling someone they're "wrong" when your entire argument is RESTATING WHAT THEY SAID IN THE POST YOU ARE SAYING IS "WRONG" makes you a "richard"?
You should because you are.
Now learn to read before you reply, or don't bother.
You shouldn't apologize, you proved me irrefutably correct.
I said you were like football and nascar fans and you proceeded to behave exactly like they do, thus proving me correct.
So don't apologize.
"you don't know what you post would trigger"
I know that in well adjusted individuals, it wouldn't trigger anything, and even if it did, they wouldn't act like a four year old then blame me for their behavior.
Yes, that's it, keep ranting and insulting me just like a football or nascar fan, in your effort to prove you're not just like a football or nascar fan.
"unable to read..."
No, I'm just smarter than you. Smart enough to realize that MY BRAIN IS PART OF ME.
"continuing making people hate you"
Confederacy of Dunces. Seriously, WTF do I care that some loser ass fanbois mod me down for telling the truth about them?
"Thank you for already going fast-forward to the part where I, and the 99,99% of/., can only laugh at you because there are no arguments left on your side of this conversation"
I'm glad you think I'm right, and that I don't need to make any more arguments.
Now go watch nascar, er... I mean code some open source project.
" he makes the same distinction between "no" and "any" that you just did."
No he doesn't. You are also wrong.
"Funny thing is, they don't get to fire you for no reason. There are lots of reasons that they can't fire you, including but not limited to firings for the person's gender or race, the person's age (if over a certain age) and retaliatory firings for the worker filing a worker's comp claim, for taking leave under the Family and Medical Leave Act, or for whistle blowing (which is the specific issue discussed here.)"
Now like I said, this varies somewhat by state. There are some federal statutes (like the protected class cases), but mostly, it's defined by the state. And like I said, I don't know of any state where it's legal to fire a person for whistle blowing, though if some allow for that, I'd love to know."
Not in there, so far you're still wrong.
"What often happens in these cases is that circumstances arise for which the employer wants to retaliate against the employee, so they fire him/her. The employee then files a lawsuit claiming wrongful termination, and gives the reason. Generally speaking, these cases are decided upon a preponderance of the evidence, so if the employee gets into court and says, "I reported my employer for doing this illegal thing, and then he fired me!" it's going to be up to the employer to prove that either a) the firing was for no cause (pretty hard to do with) or b) that the firing was with cause, and here's the list of reasons why he was fired."
STILL not in there, so far you're still wrong.
"The judge or jury or whomever then weighs the evidence to determine whether or not the termination was illegal.
"At will" isn't as simple as you tried to make it."
Nope, nowhere to be found.
You read something that was not there, and are wrong.
"But if they fire you after you have filed a complaint w/ the labor bored then that will be seen by the labor board as a retaliatory termination. That is illegal."
Yes. So what, that's A reason, not NO reason and I covered that RIGHT HERE
"As you say, if they fire you for A reason that is wrong, like race, illness, or something else illegal, then yes, you have action."
Try reading what you're replying to, you'll avoid restating for no reason and less eloquently, what has already been covered.
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"Anyone who still thinks that drug-related problems are caused by their prohibition is an idiot."
Well, I'm a professional in this area, and I have to say your observation is moronic.
If there was a stronger word than moronic, one that would indicate a need for society to sterilize you to prevent you from furthering your genepool and prevent your offspring from reducing the collective intelligence of the world I would use it.
Fuck I don't even have to be a professional to observe that you're drawing your conclusions from a FUCKING TELEVISION SHOW. You lose the right to comment on that basis alone.
That said, your comment betrays your ignorance. Most people who abuse drugs (NOT use recreationally, but ABUSE) have underlying mental health problems. This has been established conclusively and is not open for debate.
Criminalizing drugs has turned what should be a public health problem into a criminal one, and it's not a good change.
Do yourself a favor, get educated or shut the fuck up. And DO NOT attempt to claim you re educated, you wouldn't have said "watch intervention" as though that were an intelligent observation if you were educated.
"We need our young people to know that we are more than willing to throw them into oblivion if they get high even once"
So only one mistake, no second chances for YOUNG people?
Well, I say we need our imbeciles to know we are more than willing to ridicule them for their overwhelmingly stupid commentary, such as your for instance.
"A person can become (psychologically) addicted to anything."
No, that's called dependence, or abuse, not addiction.
That being said, only people who don't know WTF they're talking about even use "addiction", professionals retired the term years ago, and now use "dependence" or "abuse".
In other words, if you use the word "addicted", that is proof you don't know WTF you're talking about.
"Odd how we've gotten along for so long without the medication and professional counseling eh? "
You've never talked to anyone outside your field regarding mental health have you?
Regardless, your opinion is moronic.
"My mom has been hospitalized twice for depression with several weeks of suicide watch under her belt...realized its just a cycle that will continue because she is so ashamed of her pathetic loser ass kid, and she prefers offing herself to being the parent of such a loser and there is really no point in fighting it"
FYP.
"You've never talked to anyone outside your field about anything regarding the internet have you?"
You've never accepted the diagnosis that you're mentally retarded despite proving it daily, have you?
"Ah, so you don't realise it. Hey I can do this kinda crap too!"
No, because it's not true. I can't "realise" something that isn't true, so no, you fail.
Again.
"This is a website devoted to FLOSS, but not solely devoted to FLOSS!"
No it isn't. It's just a website that has some OSS content. Claiming it is "devoted" without any evidence apart from your opinion, which you're proven to be worthless because you're a liar, doesn't make it so.
"You are such a girl"
Wow, not only are you a liar, but you're a bigot and a misogynist. How fucking pathetic.
And I thought you couldn't make yourself look any worse.
"Got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning, did we?"
NO, I just hate the menagerie of stupid fucks that make declarations like that idiot did, while the audience KNOWS he's talking out of his ass but approves anyway because he's pandering to their biases.
"I vote your post Rant of the Week, and as a bonus, your sig gets the Bad Taste Sig of the Month Award. "
Who cares? I certainly don't give a fuck about your opinion, so why did you share it with someone you know would only enjoy how much it pisses your loser ass off?
Fuck off now, thanks.
"but otherwise, deep sea drilling hasn't contributed much to our scientific understanding of this species."
Really?
And just exactly how the fuck would you know that? Are you some secret marine biologist squid expert that has intimate working knowledge of EVERY facet of oil exploration/squid research?
No, you're not.
You're some fucking kid running his mouth about something he's only able to speculate on, pandering to the bias of the audience.
But you have NO FUCKING IDEA how much oil exploration has contributed to squid research, so stop lying with pathetic statements like "otherwise, deep sea drilling hasn't contributed much to our scientific understanding of this species" that you can't possibly know to be true.
This makes me want to scream.
Please, please find me a place on earth where prisons, which are usually populated by criminals, isn't a place where the inmates abuse each other in all manners imaginable.
I'll wait.
So I'll ass, why, exactly, are you leveling a criticism at America that is applicable to virtually every country on earth. You say
"I am continually astounded that an advanced nation can condone such barbaric behaviour"
I could examine any countries prison system and say this. And sadly I'd be right.
But you level this criticism at "America" specifically, which leads to ignore that, overall, prison is a very, very unpleasant place to be.
But you have confused losing to the inmates cunning with "condoning". The inmates are not cattle to be herded, they are actively working against the guards to find ways to exploit the system.
But your final line made you out the troll you are
"This behaviour actually makes terrorists look civilised."
Right...
"And you do realize that MS Windows has nothing to do with nerds, right?"
No.
"And that FLOSS and Linux is kinda important here on "/.", right?"
To you. I couldn't care less, and there's plenty of stuff to catch my interest. Maybe you should come to grips with the fact that no mater how your sorry loser ass tries to show it, this IS NOT A WEBSITE DEVOTED TO OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE.
Cry to your mom about it, but that won't change it, and it sure as fuck won't make your retarded objections to my visiting any less retarded.
"You meant; "I am too stupid to comprehent (sic) smart people"
At least you finally admit it, but you really shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
You linked to one article that is a year and a half old, and talks about plans that in the mean time have not been implemented in any way and you use THAT to justify to yourself that they're patent trolls.
If that's what you've got then, NO!.
Your bias doesn't change that.
"So no, they don't make machines."
I don't see anything in your post that demonstrates that at all.
What I see is you making a specious connection between parts being supplied by different companies than MS being some proof they don't make machines.
However, you, intentionally I'm certain, ignore that assembling other companies parts into a whole does in fact constitute a machine by anyone's measure.
Except yours, apparently, but that essentially disqualifies your measure from consideration.
Or are you genuinely arguing that assembling another companies parts into a device does not constitute "making a machine".
Because that's genuinely absurd.
"You mention preference, but preference is not measured, it's inferred. Especially when you're studying animals."
This could be the most wrong assertion I have ever seen.
Not only is it mose definitely measured, it is measured exactingly, like any other scientific discipline.
You are completely wrong about this, and I am an expert in the field, so argue if you like, just be warned you are totally wrong.
" Going by measured behaviors there are not huge sex-based behavioral differences within many complex animals (again, leaving aside actual reproduction)."
You are, again, factually wrong. But even if you weren't the "size" of the difference is irrelevant. Pebbles start avalanches, and behavior is the same. SMALL changes make a BIG difference.
"Your argument that the gender split in CS is biologically based might make sense if there hadn't recently been a much more even gender split (did you read the article?)."
GOD DAMMIT. I NEVER MADE ANY ARGUMENT REGARDING CS. And yes, I did read the article, It DOES NOT say what you claim, but I don't really care to be honest.
My argument was that biological differences can influence preference.
THAT IS ALL. Read what you're replying to please.
One last thing
You'll notice a total of three loctions where I used caps in a relatively long post.
So I have to wonder why you'd say "Hey I'm not the one using all caps" to me since I didn't do anything approaching "using all caps" and you implication that I did is both wrong and moronic.
Do you always lie like that?
Making fun of you, at least today.
Thanks for making it easy.
But in all seriousness, you do realize that this is "news for nerds, stuff that matters" right?
And that much of that news doesn't have a fucking thing to do with "FLOSS" right?
You're not very bright so I suppose it's possible you didn't know that until just now....
"Actually you are wrong. There REALLY are plenty of reasons why an employer cannot fire you."
You seem to be extemely stupid. But since you think I'm "wrong" please point to the exact statement that you misread to make you believe that I was claiming anything in opposition to your point.
Oh right, there isn't anything.
In fact, not only are you so incredibly fucking stupid that you tell me I'm wrong, you then go on to make the exact point I already made while claiming I was wrong.
Are you genuinely retarded?
Here, get someone smarter than you to re-read this, so you realize what a dumbass you are.
You're making MY point, and you're so fucking stupid you don't realize it.
God damn that's dumb, and embarassing for you to boot.
"Although all the employer needs to say to work around all those reasons is "Your services are no longer needed." Which it looks like you tried to say "
No you fucking moron, I DID say it, but as I've proven, you can't read or understand text worth a fuck, so you didn't realize it.
In fact, HERE IT IS AGAIN.
You shouldn't apologize, you proved me irrefutably correct.
I said you were like football and nascar fans and you proceeded to behave exactly like they do, thus proving me correct.
So don't apologize.
"you don't know what you post would trigger"
I know that in well adjusted individuals, it wouldn't trigger anything, and even if it did, they wouldn't act like a four year old then blame me for their behavior.
Like you did for instance.
Yes, that's it, keep ranting and insulting me just like a football or nascar fan, in your effort to prove you're not just like a football or nascar fan.
"unable to read..."
No, I'm just smarter than you. Smart enough to realize that MY BRAIN IS PART OF ME.
"continuing making people hate you"
Confederacy of Dunces.
Seriously, WTF do I care that some loser ass fanbois mod me down for telling the truth about them?
"What part of your brain is too stupid to understand that if you run out of arguments then you are, you know, wrong?!"
Um, not if the arguments are correct.
And you call ME stupid...
"Thank you for already going fast-forward to the part where I, and the 99,99% of /., can only laugh at you because there are no arguments left on your side of this conversation"
I'm glad you think I'm right, and that I don't need to make any more arguments.
Now go watch nascar, er... I mean code some open source project.
"Sit the fuck down and listen to the reason why the hell we, FLOSS users, hate proprietary software."
No.
You're losers who identify with a movement because your life is otherwise meaningless.
You're no different than football or nascar fans.
And you deserve as much respect.
I love that flambait moderation, one of you fanboys must have really been hurt by the truth.
"If you had read the full post"
I did, but thanks for making a faulty assumption.
" he makes the same distinction between "no" and "any" that you just did."
No he doesn't. You are also wrong.
"Funny thing is, they don't get to fire you for no reason. There are lots of reasons that they can't fire you, including but not limited to firings for the person's gender or race, the person's age (if over a certain age) and retaliatory firings for the worker filing a worker's comp claim, for taking leave under the Family and Medical Leave Act, or for whistle blowing (which is the specific issue discussed here.)"
Not in there, so far you're still wrong.
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_termination [wikipedia.org]
Now like I said, this varies somewhat by state. There are some federal statutes (like the protected class cases), but mostly, it's defined by the state. And like I said, I don't know of any state where it's legal to fire a person for whistle blowing, though if some allow for that, I'd love to know."
Not in there, so far you're still wrong.
"What often happens in these cases is that circumstances arise for which the employer wants to retaliate against the employee, so they fire him/her. The employee then files a lawsuit claiming wrongful termination, and gives the reason. Generally speaking, these cases are decided upon a preponderance of the evidence, so if the employee gets into court and says, "I reported my employer for doing this illegal thing, and then he fired me!" it's going to be up to the employer to prove that either a) the firing was for no cause (pretty hard to do with) or b) that the firing was with cause, and here's the list of reasons why he was fired."
STILL not in there, so far you're still wrong.
"The judge or jury or whomever then weighs the evidence to determine whether or not the termination was illegal.
"At will" isn't as simple as you tried to make it."
Nope, nowhere to be found.
You read something that was not there, and are wrong.
And in his case, no need to be correct.
More to the point though, I wasn't impolite.
And no, your opinion and his don't change that.
"You know damned well what I meant by the rest of my post."
No, I know what you SAID, and the context supports MY interpretation. Get over it.
"Just 'cause it's the Internet and mostly anonymous doesn't mean you have to be an asshole."
I agree, so why do you insist on doing so?
You were wrong. If you MEANT something other than what you SAID, then improve your composition skills, and try again.
But what you SAID was totally wrong.
"But if they fire you after you have filed a complaint w/ the labor bored then that will be seen by the labor board as a retaliatory termination. That is illegal."
Yes. So what, that's A reason, not NO reason and I covered that RIGHT HERE
"As you say, if they fire you for A reason that is wrong, like race, illness, or something else illegal, then yes, you have action."
Try reading what you're replying to, you'll avoid restating for no reason and less eloquently, what has already been covered.