I've never been in favour of censoring Twitter for his opinions - he can say whatever he damn well pleases. It's about asking him to enter the debate honestly, and he's never done that for as long as I've been here.
As far as I'm concerned, he's never earned the right to speak freely by promising to speak responsibly, as you put it:)
Think about it, I'm everywhere you want to be and everything you are not Which is, of course, why you copied my username - because I'm somehow envious of you.
If the method by which people learn and the actual things that they learn were exactly the same thing then you'd be right. However, they aren't, and therefore you're wrong again.
I can name famous physicists, entrepreneurs who have left indelible marks on the way we live that never finished high school. You could too if you took the time to learn how the world actually works.
Not going to argue, this is silly Translation: You don't have a leg to stand on.
You're right, that was fun.
There is nothing wrong with generalizing. Must be the mac in your name. That's funny, because there you go again. The Mac in my name is because my grandmother was Scottish, nothing more sinister than that.
I'm primarily a Windows user who used to be an Amiga guy.
I do see an issue because 11 year olds need to learn their states and how to multiply before they get "real world experience" in network administration Why do they? You do realise that the world used to work just fine when youngsters learnt the trades from their parents rather than from the school system? There's a place for both in this world. If he can do the job without those things why waste his time and the time of his teachers?
this is borderline exploitation. How is it exploitation when he volunteered? Do you have any evidence that someone coerced him into doing it? There's even a little quote at the end of the article about how he's going to do an A+ course and then go on from there. Doesn't sound like exploitation to me.
Has nothing to do with open source. You can imagine how easily confused I was when you pulled out the one line about open source and then based your comment around it - so it has nothing to do with it at all? So why did you pick that quote?
Sorry, I have to call bullshit on you now.
As far as I can see he has no guidance and will develop some shit habits, i.e. reinstalling Windows as a primary solution. Read the article and come back. He upgraded his school from 98 to 2000, and for free I might add. He did not 'reinstall as a primary solution'. Sounds like you're grasping at straws to find something he did wrong.
An admin job takes more than knowledge or intelligence (which I'm sure he has) but you also need strong critical thinking skills which ALL 11 year olds lack. Nothing like painting an entire age group with the same brush. You can't back that up because it's not true, so don't try.
Are they really going to pull him out of class and have him work on fixing the mail server? Sounds fucking irresponsible to me. If it gives him real world experience in something here clearly enjoys doing, I don't see an issue with it at all.
How was that in any sense of the word a translation?
AC says he didn't try any open source solutions, I point out that he did, and you've managed to translate that into some insane prediction of how his future career will be, despite you not knowing anything about him or how he plans to progress from here on in.
Was that just a knee-jerk reaction to someone saying that open source doesn't fit what he wants?
If the kid is so damned smart, why wasn't he using any of the many free online/ported tools instead of buying off the shelf crap at CompUSA? Yes, I know this is Slashdot, but RTFA:
"We spent $2,158," says young Penn, describing how he picked out the McAfee Secure Internet Gateway Appliance after evaluating it in a 30-day trial. He also looked at the Barracuda box - a tad more costly - and tried the Untangle open source product, which he said didn't meet the school's needs as well.
While you are apparently infatuated with karma, and might consider it an expensive commodity purchased by gaming Slashdot, it means nothing to me. That's funny considering you have 5 accounts.
Just to let you know, I do know about your 5th account. One hopes you'll take the opportunity to take this information, grow some balls and stop shilling Slashdot. I've plenty of room in my signature to put it in there and let everyone know which one it is.
This isn't a threat (as you've so amusingly accused me of doing before), it's a chance to try and be a better person and rise above this stupidity. I kind of hope you take it.
I can understand your point of view on it being soap-opera like, but there is a reason.
I am quite happy for Twitter to post on Slashdot. I generally ignore him because I think he's a liar, and did so quite successfully for a number of months when I thought he only posted under the two pseudonyms. That's gone up to at least 4 now, though, and I feel that if he's going to continue pretending he's different people, then others should know which people they are so they can talk to him with all of the information.
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Yet another shill from Twitter.
Carry on, everyone.
Thank you for explaining it so eloquently.
:)
I've never been in favour of censoring Twitter for his opinions - he can say whatever he damn well pleases. It's about asking him to enter the debate honestly, and he's never done that for as long as I've been here.
As far as I'm concerned, he's never earned the right to speak freely by promising to speak responsibly, as you put it
And so was the comment you responded to, so I think he's aware :)
Keep it up!
Shilling again, Twitter?
I see you found time to argue after all.
If the method by which people learn and the actual things that they learn were exactly the same thing then you'd be right. However, they aren't, and therefore you're wrong again.
I can name famous physicists, entrepreneurs who have left indelible marks on the way we live that never finished high school. You could too if you took the time to learn how the world actually works.
You're right, that was fun. There is nothing wrong with generalizing. Must be the mac in your name. That's funny, because there you go again. The Mac in my name is because my grandmother was Scottish, nothing more sinister than that.
I'm primarily a Windows user who used to be an Amiga guy. I do see an issue because 11 year olds need to learn their states and how to multiply before they get "real world experience" in network administration Why do they? You do realise that the world used to work just fine when youngsters learnt the trades from their parents rather than from the school system? There's a place for both in this world. If he can do the job without those things why waste his time and the time of his teachers? this is borderline exploitation. How is it exploitation when he volunteered? Do you have any evidence that someone coerced him into doing it? There's even a little quote at the end of the article about how he's going to do an A+ course and then go on from there. Doesn't sound like exploitation to me.
Sorry, I have to call bullshit on you now. As far as I can see he has no guidance and will develop some shit habits, i.e. reinstalling Windows as a primary solution. Read the article and come back. He upgraded his school from 98 to 2000, and for free I might add. He did not 'reinstall as a primary solution'. Sounds like you're grasping at straws to find something he did wrong. An admin job takes more than knowledge or intelligence (which I'm sure he has) but you also need strong critical thinking skills which ALL 11 year olds lack. Nothing like painting an entire age group with the same brush. You can't back that up because it's not true, so don't try. Are they really going to pull him out of class and have him work on fixing the mail server? Sounds fucking irresponsible to me. If it gives him real world experience in something here clearly enjoys doing, I don't see an issue with it at all.
How was that in any sense of the word a translation?
AC says he didn't try any open source solutions, I point out that he did, and you've managed to translate that into some insane prediction of how his future career will be, despite you not knowing anything about him or how he plans to progress from here on in.
Was that just a knee-jerk reaction to someone saying that open source doesn't fit what he wants?
Is he administrating a network? Yes. Then he's a network administrator.
Just because you require more from an administrator doesn't mean he isn't one. Don't piss on the kid's parade.
3 sockpuppets in one thread... The more you do it, the more obvious you make it.
I'm really enjoying watching you bury yourself this time around.
Because unlike Microsoft, Linux distro maintainers can bundle anything they like without getting sued to oblivion.
Be honest?
Nah, security is like parfait.
I never met anyone who didn't like parfait.
Nope, that would be me ;)
I told you I knew your fifth sockpuppet, Twitter... but you couldn't resist, could you?
I like how you can't even have a reasonable discussion with yourself.
Go ahead and list all the people I 'harrass'.
Honestly, go wild. I'm interested to see how you answer this one.
I wish I was.
You're still lying!
Just to let you know, I do know about your 5th account. One hopes you'll take the opportunity to take this information, grow some balls and stop shilling Slashdot. I've plenty of room in my signature to put it in there and let everyone know which one it is.
This isn't a threat (as you've so amusingly accused me of doing before), it's a chance to try and be a better person and rise above this stupidity. I kind of hope you take it.
On the contrary, Twitter! Seeing as debunking your shit takes me about 5 minutes a day, it leaves me plenty of time for other pursuits.
I can understand your point of view on it being soap-opera like, but there is a reason.
I am quite happy for Twitter to post on Slashdot. I generally ignore him because I think he's a liar, and did so quite successfully for a number of months when I thought he only posted under the two pseudonyms. That's gone up to at least 4 now, though, and I feel that if he's going to continue pretending he's different people, then others should know which people they are so they can talk to him with all of the information.
That's all I have to say on it, really.