1st. Look mister America is doomed because practically everyone that is got something to say there (that includes you as well as your president, lawyers in general and everyone in your courts of law) seems to be a retarded idiot just like you proved you are.
2nd. In a civilized country (like the ones in Europe) noone really cares how your stupid lawyers interpret the EULA, what we care is how the LAW, and that means who makes it (the parliament, not some stupid dictatorial president) and who applies it (the courts of law, not some greedy bastard lawyers) interpret the EULA.
3rd. In such civilized countries, the part that says "You may permanently transfer all of your rights and obligations" is very clear to everyone, and means that you are free to transfer your game and your account cause although that account belongs to Blizzard, it's your right to have it and not be discriminated by Blizzard about the transfer of it, if they shut it down for you the better shut it down for everyone or at least (due to some technical failure) to some big enough group of persons so that it doesn't seems discriminatory, or else it would be Blizzard that would get in trouble.
4th. You go and learn how to read and write, at least in your own language, since unlike you obnoxious people, in here (yes I'm a European) we actually have an education and learn more than just our mother language and how to read the MacDonald's price table.
So now eBay thinks they can rule the world and even put more restrictions than the legal owner of the property?
World of Warcraft End User Licence Agreement Relevant Part (3.B):
3. Ownership.
B. You may permanently transfer all of your rights and obligations under the License Agreement to another by physically transferring the original media (e.g., the CD-ROM or DVD you purchased), all original packaging, and all Manuals or other documentation distributed with the Game; provided, however, that you permanently delete all copies and installations of the Game in your possession or control, and that the recipient agrees to the terms of this License Agreement. The transferor (i.e., you), and not Blizzard, agrees to be solely responsible for any taxes, fees, charges, duties, withholdings, assessments, and the like, together with any interest, penalties, and additions imposed in connection with such transfer.
Because CD's are copy protected nowadays... I thought you would knew.
Yes, I know that in many cases (or all I haven't been checking lately) it's possible to convert them... but why would I loose my time searching for obscure tools that live in the gray area to do something I should legally be entitled too?
And what if I only like a specific song? Why should I buy the all CD?
I don't want to start a flame war, but to me it's really simple:
Why the hell are you going to pay for a music file with DRM if you can get it for free trough P2P ?
If the music studios played it nicely and gave us the ability to download music in good compression formats (or even flac uncompressed) without DRM, then well, we would have no moral excuses not to buy the music from the artist we like. But since we are paying to get some crappie format that will only play in computer X and portable player Y, then sorry guys, but I think it's moral very acceptable to just get it for free.
If music studios want to make us pay 2, 3 or even more times for the same music... then my answer is "I'll not pay you even once!".
You installed Linux and it automagically recognised all you USB peripherals, it installed nice drivers for your printer (no, I'm not talking about those crapy GIMP drivers) and it also configured 3D acceleration to your graphic card. You didn't had to configure fstab to mount your windows or other external partitions, nor to configure your bluethoot device, and you TV card worked right out of the box... yeah, right.
And your windows box (yes because you talk about both), is working stable since 5 years ago, no BSOD no garbage from older installed programs (oh, perhaps you only use wordpad and the things that case with windows default installations, that is why), you also installed SP1 and SP" without any problem (in fact you didn't had to make a reboot) and windows never gave you a crash, also, your windows computer like all the other in the universe, some months after installation, after some uptime doesn't start trashing and trashing to the hard drive to the point you need to make a reboot and think about re-installing it (ahh, no perhaps you are one of those that has 32TB of RAM in is computer so you don't notice it).
It's indeed a funny thing... in fact, thinking again, it's not funny, it's just not true.
I have a 1.42 with a GB of RAM and it still pinwheels constantly
Yeah, your friend is right, I think you messed so much with OSX trying to gain control of what you really didn't needed to, that you ended up messing with something you shouldn't. I have 1.5Gb myself and it practically never pinwheels (using your term), even when I'm using demanding apps like Photoshop.
Also, I come from XP and I also tried Linux (Debian, Gentoo, Suse)... but sorry to say folks, Linux it's just not ready for desktop, someone that uses their computer at work for more than programming just wants his computer to work, I don't want to have to configure everything with some strange files at/etc (yeah I know, read the documentation you say... well while I'm reading the damn documentation I could be working, so, no thanks). I also don't want to be re-installing my operating system every 6 months in order for it to behave ok (I'm talking about windows).
So, bottom line is, OSX is a very good operating system, it's not perfect... but it's likely the better one out there right now (just like democracy).
My God ... where do tey find those guys?
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This is really hilarious... but to say the truth my students (the new ones from this latter educations changes) probably would have the same problem.
I get mad with many of them because they all think that zero point 15 cents is actually bigger than zero point 6 cents.
And if I get units in the mixture... it's even better (or worst:) )... so, I believe that the operator is not actually ling to the customer, there is the real hypothesis that the operator doesn't understand the difference.
In a country of Europe like practically all the others here... and if we want we can have it, but practically no one does it because if find it better for the jury to be composed by a group of magistrates that actually know the law.
That's the problem you didn't gave me any facts, you just bragged about your stupid system because you happen to have born rich and think that the good system is one in which the rich get their wealth from the poor.
Think again pal, for you to have all those nice possibilities, someone is got to be poor there, someone is got to drive your bus... oh sorry I forget, you are rich, you only go by car and kill the environment, and someone is got to clean your filth.
That is what distinguishes the developed countries from yours, in northern Europe, a doctor and a street cleaner earn similar wages because someone that is intelligent enough (more than you at least) already figured out that everyone is needed to make the system work, and so everyone should be entitled to similar treatment and wealth.
And what you said about Kyoto is a big crap. It's the same as saying, oh, it doesn't matter we are killing all those people in Iraq... after all everybody dies someday. You are polluting the air we breath as well... and we are getting tired of it. Volcanoes are a natural producer of CO2 since 4000 million years ago... and if you look at the data, the CO2 levels were never this (extremely) high since we have data about it, so don't blame the volcanoes, blame yourself.
I'm starting to think that G. Bush finally learned to write and is posting on Slashdot.
Ahh... so you are the guy that is behind the Nazi party of America?
Well, I wish you good luck... cause in there it will be difficult to blame the Jews like your friend Adolf did it in old Germany... try someone else... the Democrats or something like that.
Thank you Jeff, this is interesting data... specially the part about Italy.
I don't know if you are from USA, but if you are from EU, you probably know that Silvio Berlusconi controls practically all the media himself trough his companies... so it's a good surprise too see that Italy fared pretty well in the Press Freedom part.
But still, these data doesn't seem very in accordance to the one we have for the European Union. Last year Estonia was considered the freest (in press freedom) of the new EU members even above some of the old EU members from southern Europe... but still in this table, it's below... there must be some discrepancy here (although it's a small one).
First, don't try to write in French cause you really can't do it properly.
You pay $2.50 for a gallon of gas, but all is wasted in your bath tub cars, we like the cars we have in here, and we could buy American cars... but except for Ford we don't since they are all a bloated piece of crap.
No, we don't wish we had dollars... Euro is now (and for some time now) stronger than dollar, I don't even get your argument.
I bet miss America is a good as misssomeeuropeannorthencountries, and what's is that good for? I bet you never went to bed with any miss America. And our women don't have air beneath their arms since the 60's... but why do you say that, American girls still have it by now?:o
Finally, we like socialism, we like to have the assurance that when you are too old to work, that the state will take care of you (after all you deserve it, cause you worked for him before) We like to know that if we get unemployed and it's not our fault, that the sate will support us for time enough to get a new job. We like to know that if our children get seriously ill, we can take him to the hospital and he will get proper medical treatment no mater how expensive it is even if we don't have a medical insurance.... and we like to know that we are the major force behind the Kioto protocol and that we don't drive bath tub like cars on the streets that only harm the environment...
Check wikipedia and read the result gathered related to: "Freedom in the World published by Freedom House ranks countries by political rights and civil liberties that are derived in large measure from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights" Press freedom: USA - Satisfactory Practically Every Country From European Union - Good
Being the rank from better to worst: Good, Satisfactory, problems, difficult, very serious
Now you know your nice USA is not as good as that... and believe me, no one in the EU of the 15 (the members that entered before 2004) is jealous of you... in fact most of us pity you.
Well, this seems also a problem that comes from a jurisprudence juridical system, if there were laws that regulated the cases like in many European countries, this kind of juridical claims could have been gone a long time ago by a set of laws made by the government that would at least minimize the problem.
Humm, this may be true for Anglo-Saxon countries, but it's not normal in Europe. Also, I don't know what you mean by "the most democratic and free nations of the world"... but if you check any official report, USA doesn't belong to them for lot of time now.
The trial is made by a jury from among magistrates... but still the defendant has generally the option to ask for a jury of peers if he wishes (although that practically never happens).
Also the justice system is got absolutely nothing to do with politics and is a complete different power from the government (the government doesn't elect any kind of magistrates for any kind of courts and they are absolutely independent from any other group), also, magistrates cannot be affiliated or in any way show sympathy for a political party.
Bottom line, the government makes the laws, the magistrates apply it, and the 2 roles are completely separated. The fact that the outcome of the juridical cases (normally and as long as the defendant wishes it) is decided by someone that actually understands the law, is a good thing.
Tss, tss, only such a stupid legal system as the American could lead people to do this kind of stuff.
If you had a legal system of some righteousness, you would force someone that files a case against another person (unless for crimes that involve violence) to pay the defendant legal costs in case the defendant was found innocent... that way, all those stupid legal cases we see in America would never have been brought to justice in the first place... much less find a jury stupid enough to actually agree you are right (yeah that's right you also have that idiot system in which you call a bunch off illiterate people from the streets, that know nothing about justice, and get them decide if someone is innocent or guilty).
A: Who wants to bet that Apple has a bunch of patents to happily sue about. Apple doesn't make a boatload of money on the hardware (why else are they able to effectively price-match other MP3 players), but a huge amount from Itunes.
If that's so, then why doesn't Apple allow every mp3 player to play their songs purchased from iTunes?... after all if the money only comes from iTunes but not from the iPod, Apple would win a huge amount by supporting 3rd party mp3 players!
Well, I don't fully understand if you can just buy a developer kit and make an application to the XBOX 360, but doesn't this mean that it will become very easy to run homebrew and backups in the XBOX 360?
Even if the code is digitally signed to the creator and Microsoft enforces him not to create these kind of applications, just look at what happened to the PSP, there were a bug in the PSP was exploited to make a patch to downgrade the firmware until a firmware that Sony itself had made with a nasty (or very nice... depends on your perspective) bug that allowed to run any application.
Now, you could just make a game and even without intention, that game could have a bug that could be exploited the same way on the XBOX 360 and really Microsoft couldn' prosecute someone just because that person is a bad coder an opened an exploit to the XBOX 360.
Yes, I know (like I said above) that the matter is much more complex than that and that the global warming (if it continues) will cause global climate changes for which we cannot predict the full extent for now.
But it's just like you said it, it sound more innocuous this way and that is why the politicians and the the media started to use it... it was not because it's scientifically more correct.
If your culture went further away than just watching cowboy movies perhaps you knew what I'm talking about... as it obviously doesn't then please get back to you life. Someday you will manage to read a book... believe me it's not that difficult... and you may actually learn something, isn't that great?
"Global climate change is not some goofball conspiracy"... gosh you really should say that to Bush administration.
That region is called Palestine since ever... they only changed the name in the past decade since it's much easier to support the Israelis fighting the Palestinian people in Middle East than it is to know that the Israelis are attacking the Palestinian people in Palestine.
There is the normal assumption by people that if the territory is called Palestine then it should belong to the Palestinians (attention I'm not saying that this is right or wrong I'm just saying that it's only a marketing term), and that was why they changed the way people refer to it some year ago.
RIGHT: Iraq's current oil production is 2,900,000 barrels per day. At $70 a barrel, the value of Iraq's entire daily production is $203,000,000 PERHAPS RIGHT ALSO: The total cost of your "War Against Middle East" (so far) is $65,000,000,000 and is expected to top $300,000,000,000
IMPORTANT PART: It's not America that is making money of the oil in Iraq... it's Father Bush and is personal friends that help put Son Bush in the presidency. Iraq has the largest oil reserves in the world and you are dumb if you think that the war USA conducted in Iraq was to free the people of Iraq... that you have to admit, live in much worst condition now than they did before the war started... ah oh, no, the USA went to Iraq because they had weapons of mass destruction and they were building "nucular" weapons... yeah, now I remember that was what you said before.
Numbers are very pretty, but it's their meaning that maters.
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2nd. In a civilized country (like the ones in Europe) noone really cares how your stupid lawyers interpret the EULA, what we care is how the LAW, and that means who makes it (the parliament, not some stupid dictatorial president) and who applies it (the courts of law, not some greedy bastard lawyers) interpret the EULA.
3rd. In such civilized countries, the part that says "You may permanently transfer all of your rights and obligations" is very clear to everyone, and means that you are free to transfer your game and your account cause although that account belongs to Blizzard, it's your right to have it and not be discriminated by Blizzard about the transfer of it, if they shut it down for you the better shut it down for everyone or at least (due to some technical failure) to some big enough group of persons so that it doesn't seems discriminatory, or else it would be Blizzard that would get in trouble.
4th. You go and learn how to read and write, at least in your own language, since unlike you obnoxious people, in here (yes I'm a European) we actually have an education and learn more than just our mother language and how to read the MacDonald's price table.
World of Warcraft End User Licence Agreement Relevant Part (3.B):
3. Ownership.
B. You may permanently transfer all of your rights and obligations under the License Agreement to another by physically transferring the original media (e.g., the CD-ROM or DVD you purchased), all original packaging, and all Manuals or other documentation distributed with the Game; provided, however, that you permanently delete all copies and installations of the Game in your possession or control, and that the recipient agrees to the terms of this License Agreement. The transferor (i.e., you), and not Blizzard, agrees to be solely responsible for any taxes, fees, charges, duties, withholdings, assessments, and the like, together with any interest, penalties, and additions imposed in connection with such transfer.
Yes, I know that in many cases (or all I haven't been checking lately) it's possible to convert them ... but why would I loose my time searching for obscure tools that live in the gray area to do something I should legally be entitled too?
And what if I only like a specific song? Why should I buy the all CD?
Why the hell are you going to pay for a music file with DRM if you can get it for free trough P2P ? If the music studios played it nicely and gave us the ability to download music in good compression formats (or even flac uncompressed) without DRM, then well, we would have no moral excuses not to buy the music from the artist we like. But since we are paying to get some crappie format that will only play in computer X and portable player Y, then sorry guys, but I think it's moral very acceptable to just get it for free.
If music studios want to make us pay 2, 3 or even more times for the same music ... then my answer is "I'll not pay you even once!".
Hum, I see:
... yeah, right.
... in fact, thinking again, it's not funny, it's just not true.
You installed Linux and it automagically recognised all you USB peripherals, it installed nice drivers for your printer (no, I'm not talking about those crapy GIMP drivers) and it also configured 3D acceleration to your graphic card.
You didn't had to configure fstab to mount your windows or other external partitions, nor to configure your bluethoot device, and you TV card worked right out of the box
And your windows box (yes because you talk about both), is working stable since 5 years ago, no BSOD no garbage from older installed programs (oh, perhaps you only use wordpad and the things that case with windows default installations, that is why), you also installed SP1 and SP" without any problem (in fact you didn't had to make a reboot) and windows never gave you a crash, also, your windows computer like all the other in the universe, some months after installation, after some uptime doesn't start trashing and trashing to the hard drive to the point you need to make a reboot and think about re-installing it (ahh, no perhaps you are one of those that has 32TB of RAM in is computer so you don't notice it).
It's indeed a funny thing
Yeah, your friend is right, I think you messed so much with OSX trying to gain control of what you really didn't needed to, that you ended up messing with something you shouldn't.
I have 1.5Gb myself and it practically never pinwheels (using your term), even when I'm using demanding apps like Photoshop.
Also, I come from XP and I also tried Linux (Debian, Gentoo, Suse) ... but sorry to say folks, Linux it's just not ready for desktop, someone that uses their computer at work for more than programming just wants his computer to work, I don't want to have to configure everything with some strange files at /etc (yeah I know, read the documentation you say ... well while I'm reading the damn documentation I could be working, so, no thanks). I also don't want to be re-installing my operating system every 6 months in order for it to behave ok (I'm talking about windows).
So, bottom line is, OSX is a very good operating system, it's not perfect ... but it's likely the better one out there right now (just like democracy).
This is really hilarious ... but to say the truth my students (the new ones from this latter educations changes) probably would have the same problem.
... it's even better (or worst :) ) ... so, I believe that the operator is not actually ling to the customer, there is the real hypothesis that the operator doesn't understand the difference.
I get mad with many of them because they all think that zero point 15 cents is actually bigger than zero point 6 cents.
And if I get units in the mixture
In a country of Europe like practically all the others here ... and if we want we can have it, but practically no one does it because if find it better for the jury to be composed by a group of magistrates that actually know the law.
That's the problem you didn't gave me any facts, you just bragged about your stupid system because you happen to have born rich and think that the good system is one in which the rich get their wealth from the poor.
... oh sorry I forget, you are rich, you only go by car and kill the environment, and someone is got to clean your filth.
... after all everybody dies someday. You are polluting the air we breath as well ... and we are getting tired of it. Volcanoes are a natural producer of CO2 since 4000 million years ago ... and if you look at the data, the CO2 levels were never this (extremely) high since we have data about it, so don't blame the volcanoes, blame yourself.
Think again pal, for you to have all those nice possibilities, someone is got to be poor there, someone is got to drive your bus
That is what distinguishes the developed countries from yours, in northern Europe, a doctor and a street cleaner earn similar wages because someone that is intelligent enough (more than you at least) already figured out that everyone is needed to make the system work, and so everyone should be entitled to similar treatment and wealth.
And what you said about Kyoto is a big crap. It's the same as saying, oh, it doesn't matter we are killing all those people in Iraq
I'm starting to think that G. Bush finally learned to write and is posting on Slashdot.
Ahh ... so you are the guy that is behind the Nazi party of America?
... cause in there it will be difficult to blame the Jews like your friend Adolf did it in old Germany ... try someone else ... the Democrats or something like that.
Well, I wish you good luck
Thank you Jeff, this is interesting data ... specially the part about Italy.
... so it's a good surprise too see that Italy fared pretty well in the Press Freedom part.
... but still in this table, it's below ... there must be some discrepancy here (although it's a small one).
I don't know if you are from USA, but if you are from EU, you probably know that Silvio Berlusconi controls practically all the media himself trough his companies
But still, these data doesn't seem very in accordance to the one we have for the European Union.
Last year Estonia was considered the freest (in press freedom) of the new EU members even above some of the old EU members from southern Europe
First, don't try to write in French cause you really can't do it properly.
... but except for Ford we don't since they are all a bloated piece of crap.
... Euro is now (and for some time now) stronger than dollar, I don't even get your argument.
... but why do you say that, American girls still have it by now? :o
... and we like to know that we are the major force behind the Kioto protocol and that we don't drive bath tub like cars on the streets that only harm the environment ...
You pay $2.50 for a gallon of gas, but all is wasted in your bath tub cars, we like the cars we have in here, and we could buy American cars
No, we don't wish we had dollars
I bet miss America is a good as misssomeeuropeannorthencountries, and what's is that good for? I bet you never went to bed with any miss America. And our women don't have air beneath their arms since the 60's
Finally, we like socialism, we like to have the assurance that when you are too old to work, that the state will take care of you (after all you deserve it, cause you worked for him before)
We like to know that if we get unemployed and it's not our fault, that the sate will support us for time enough to get a new job.
We like to know that if our children get seriously ill, we can take him to the hospital and he will get proper medical treatment no mater how expensive it is even if we don't have a medical insurance.
You don't know what you are talking about:
... and believe me, no one in the EU of the 15 (the members that entered before 2004) is jealous of you ... in fact most of us pity you.
Check wikipedia and read the result gathered related to:
"Freedom in the World published by Freedom House ranks countries by political rights and civil liberties that are derived in large measure from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights"
Press freedom:
USA - Satisfactory
Practically Every Country From European Union - Good
Being the rank from better to worst: Good, Satisfactory, problems, difficult, very serious
Now you know your nice USA is not as good as that
Well, this seems also a problem that comes from a jurisprudence juridical system, if there were laws that regulated the cases like in many European countries, this kind of juridical claims could have been gone a long time ago by a set of laws made by the government that would at least minimize the problem.
Humm, this may be true for Anglo-Saxon countries, but it's not normal in Europe. ... but if you check any official report, USA doesn't belong to them for lot of time now.
... but still the defendant has generally the option to ask for a jury of peers if he wishes (although that practically never happens).
Also, I don't know what you mean by "the most democratic and free nations of the world"
The trial is made by a jury from among magistrates
Also the justice system is got absolutely nothing to do with politics and is a complete different power from the government (the government doesn't elect any kind of magistrates for any kind of courts and they are absolutely independent from any other group), also, magistrates cannot be affiliated or in any way show sympathy for a political party.
Bottom line, the government makes the laws, the magistrates apply it, and the 2 roles are completely separated. The fact that the outcome of the juridical cases (normally and as long as the defendant wishes it) is decided by someone that actually understands the law, is a good thing.
Tss, tss, only such a stupid legal system as the American could lead people to do this kind of stuff.
... much less find a jury stupid enough to actually agree you are right (yeah that's right you also have that idiot system in which you call a bunch off illiterate people from the streets, that know nothing about justice, and get them decide if someone is innocent or guilty).
If you had a legal system of some righteousness, you would force someone that files a case against another person (unless for crimes that involve violence) to pay the defendant legal costs in case the defendant was found innocent... that way, all those stupid legal cases we see in America would never have been brought to justice in the first place
Does this look a very stupid solution just to me? Isn't it easier and cheaper just to control and significantly reduce CO2 emissions ?
If that's so, then why doesn't Apple allow every mp3 player to play their songs purchased from iTunes?
I just read in a very secret site that Apple intends to sue all the fruit vendors in the world that clearly advertise they are selling apples.
Yes, you are right, Saudi Arabia is the 1st, but the 2nd is Canada (I never thought Canada had such great reserves :o ) and then Iraq, Iran is the 4th.
Well, I don't fully understand if you can just buy a developer kit and make an application to the XBOX 360, but doesn't this mean that it will become very easy to run homebrew and backups in the XBOX 360?
... depends on your perspective) bug that allowed to run any application.
Even if the code is digitally signed to the creator and Microsoft enforces him not to create these kind of applications, just look at what happened to the PSP, there were a bug in the PSP was exploited to make a patch to downgrade the firmware until a firmware that Sony itself had made with a nasty (or very nice
Now, you could just make a game and even without intention, that game could have a bug that could be exploited the same way on the XBOX 360 and really Microsoft couldn' prosecute someone just because that person is a bad coder an opened an exploit to the XBOX 360.
Yes, I know (like I said above) that the matter is much more complex than that and that the global warming (if it continues) will cause global climate changes for which we cannot predict the full extent for now.
... it was not because it's scientifically more correct.
But it's just like you said it, it sound more innocuous this way and that is why the politicians and the the media started to use it
If your culture went further away than just watching cowboy movies perhaps you knew what I'm talking about ... as it obviously doesn't then please get back to you life. ... believe me it's not that difficult ... and you may actually learn something, isn't that great?
Someday you will manage to read a book
"Global climate change is not some goofball conspiracy" ... gosh you really should say that to Bush administration.
... they only changed the name in the past decade since it's much easier to support the Israelis fighting the Palestinian people in Middle East than it is to know that the Israelis are attacking the Palestinian people in Palestine.
That region is called Palestine since ever
There is the normal assumption by people that if the territory is called Palestine then it should belong to the Palestinians (attention I'm not saying that this is right or wrong I'm just saying that it's only a marketing term), and that was why they changed the way people refer to it some year ago.
RIGHT: Iraq's current oil production is 2,900,000 barrels per day. At $70 a barrel, the value of Iraq's entire daily production is $203,000,000
... it's Father Bush and is personal friends that help put Son Bush in the presidency. Iraq has the largest oil reserves in the world and you are dumb if you think that the war USA conducted in Iraq was to free the people of Iraq ... that you have to admit, live in much worst condition now than they did before the war started ... ah oh, no, the USA went to Iraq because they had weapons of mass destruction and they were building "nucular" weapons ... yeah, now I remember that was what you said before.
PERHAPS RIGHT ALSO: The total cost of your "War Against Middle East" (so far) is $65,000,000,000 and is expected to top $300,000,000,000
IMPORTANT PART: It's not America that is making money of the oil in Iraq
Numbers are very pretty, but it's their meaning that maters.