iOS also isn't running on a full fledged OSX core. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 share the same core. If Apple were to announce that OSX and iOS now had the same core, they would have to do the exact same thing. This hurts WP7 users, but is great for developers. You can have an App seamlessly operate on all Windows platforms. That's Microsoft's bet, we'll see if it works. I think there is a good chance it will work.
"Microsoft needs to figure out quickly how to incorporate features, functions and uses that NO OTHER company has thought of. Until then, they will remain completely irrelevant and if I were a stock holder in their company, leave me questioning whether all that R&D money is being spent wisely."
I'm assuming you didn't watch the presentation, Windows Phone had a Siri-esque features for a while before Siri launched. They could have the features and you'd never know it; since as you said you've never seen a Windows Phone, and have obviously never made an effort to try one...which just shows that you're kind of a troll. The emphasis on cores was to show that the OS is versatile and will be around...and a backbone for many years to come.
I don't think that's true, perhaps some app features won't be supported. Then again, with WP's low market share making a huge switch like this is a lot less damaging than if, say, Apple had done it. But I am fairly certain that WP7 will be able to run some WP8 apps.
Considering Metro is now the Microsoft start menu on x86 Windows 8, I'm not sure that statement will hold up over time. An HTML 5 driven interface....eventually Microsoft is set to have their OS so lightweight in an RT setting that it could be all from the cloud. They are integrating Windows Phone/Windows 8/Xbox applications which in demos they've shown can be ported by only changing 1-3 lines of code. I don't know Microsoft's overall fate, but their direction is logical...I just don't know how well it's going to be received.
It runs faster than iTunes for one, iTunes on Windows is a bastard stepchild that runs terribly. Zune isn't a music library Nazi; every time I have installed iTunes (usually for an iTunes exclusive) it tries to take over my music library instantly, even going so far as copying my entire library to a completely separate location. I can sync tons of devices and share music across those devices without having them tagged on my account. I can copy entire contents of phones/Zunes without it prompting me for account passwords and DRM nonsense. I once tried to hook up my friend's iPhone to get a video, and I literally couldn't do it. His account was tapped out on devices, the only thing I could do is "back up" the device which is all encoded...and thus completely useless to what I was trying to do. There are some things iTunes is better at though, their store for one, is vastly superior to Zune's.
I hate this Zune example, who even still uses an iPod? Hardly anyone does. They use their iPhone. Microsoft missed the boat with PMP so badly that it literally entered the market as the market was moving on to something else. This is not the case with the tablet, the tablet is tested and true, it will be around for a long long time. That was not the case of specialty music players which...aside from the nano is pretty much dead. No one gets excited about an iPod release, it's all about iPhone and iPad. Zune wasn't a failure because there was no market for Zune itself...it was because the market was already saturated and in decline.
I love how this turned into an Apple/Microsoft flame war instead of an "oh, actually a $45 laptop could help the disproportionately poor have a chance at higher paying jobs." But no, instead we have to talk about how Apple is the best thing since sliced bread, or how Apple is so expensive or how Microsoft is just awful, it'd be better if it ran Linux. Hate to tell you kids, most computers run Windows and if a poor family can afford a Windows machine it gives them a fighting chance in the workplace in a world that is growing more dependent on computers and less on manual labor. Kudos to the makers (and to Microsoft) for making such an achievement, that 10 years ago would be unthinkable.
It's too bad these computers are in the hands of governments instead of people who could do something productive with them other than delegating processes to espionage, war, etc. Even if the computers did major calculations that could point to policy change in government, there are still politicians with motives and bureaucrats within agencies that have to protect their jobs...and hence would never use it productively. So, what's the point?
The fastest computer in the world is useless if it's not being used for a productive purpose.
Monsanto is a subject that has so much hyperbole on both sides (usually those against GMOs), calling the Monsanto pollen a "contaminant" is way overboard and doesn't make much sense at all. Saying Monsanto doesn't attack small farmers is a bit of a stretch, but all companies abuse copyright/patent laws. Just loosen up the laws, reform copyright, patents, licensing, etc. This is not as easy as "it's a contaminant!, let farmers sue!" (and wouldn't they sue the -other- farmer anyhow? Not Monsanto?) Instead it a genuine problem across the spectrum of commerce. From Apple, Motorola, Microsoft and yes, Monsanto. Intellectual property rights are a relatively new idea, and it's going to take decades for it to be sorted out to be more optimal.
Except in this case the company didn't put anything on your property, so this doesn't actually make any sense. Just loosen the restrictions on patent laws, problem solved.
A "contamination" that increases their crop yields drastically and has lower upkeep costs. Yes, yes, let's sue since we are profiting greatly from this "contamination." My neighbor cut his grass and gave me grass allergies, he kicked up a lot of pollen, maybe I'll sue Scott's yard turf. There is no logic to this. Neither should be able to sue. Only if there is outright infringement and theft of a technology, pollination doesn't contaminate fields and and pollination isn't the same as stealing a seed. Patent laws are the vast problem...let's not get all sue happy in the other direction. The last thing the U.S. needs is more lawsuits over stupid, trivial things
Adverts as stories? You mean traditional Microsoft trolling has to be constant here at/.? Your comment fits the usual narrative pretty nicely, at least.
I have been using Windows Phone for a good 6 months now, and I really do feel backward when using people's iPhones. That being said iPhone has the ecosystem that I am envious of, if a friend is playing a game, very often WP doesn't have it (yet.) So that's very frustrating. I think a lot of people just go with the platforms their friends have, the tile system is a bit jarring for those not familiar with it, and it could be improved a lot (sometimes Metro is just -too- simplistic.) However, once you are used to the system, it's a lot more intuitive than iOS. People complain about the tiles, but when using friends phones they have a sea of icons that honestly just hurt my eyes to scroll through. A lot of people think the WP list system is the wrong approach, but tapping on a letter jumps you to the program you want.
WP's biggest flaw is that it is so late to the game, if you walk into an AT&T store, expect to have an iPhone pushed on you, if you walk into a Verizon store, expect an Android device to be pushed on you. Microsoft made the mistake of not getting in bed with one of the major carriers. Google & Verizon/Apple & AT&T have a lot of power over the purchases of potential WP users. I've walked into Verizon stores with the -only- WP device being treated like the step child, and AT&T stores have had WP booths with the phones all powered down. It's pathetic. Old habits die hard. I do think all 3 of the OSes are very good in their own right, but why WP is lagging sort of baffles me, I'd expect it to at least have some interest among youth looking for Xbox Live integration. The Lumia phones are gorgeous, but honestly on the wrong carrier....Verizon should have been the Lumia's focus. AT&T's is pretty saturated with iPhone. Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with their half-assed Kin device on Verizon.
So, my basic answer is carriers, carriers, carriers, even more so than developers.
Any Metro app is going to run across RT and the full version of Windows 8. I don't understand the statements that "nothing will run." Microsoft will have the programs running on tons of different platforms which will be cross compatible, including Windows Phone, and possibly Xbox.
Apple also has a massive profit margin, even larger than Microsofts...who basically makes disks and uses digital distribution (aside from their Xbox division.) Let's not forget that.
Let's see, searching, searching, searching in the OP for a mention that Windows RT includes $400 software prepackaged....searching...not mentioned. What a surprise! People mentioned it here already, oft ignored or told you can use a "free" alternative like Google Docs, which isn't nearly as powerful as Microsoft Office. Or OpenOffice and LibreOffice for that matter. So, a license for a ~$200 OS and a ~$400 office suite (both retail) for $85 at the OEM level is somehow an awful deal.
"The media today isn't the press of 1890s. They're not there to report the truth, they're simply trying to make a buck like the rest of us. If they reported the entire truth, it'll be either boring and people would switch to another outlet, too shocking and people would switch again, or start a revolution that might make the media lose their comfortable home and present way of life. So they don't lie, but they sure as hell don't tell you the entire story. Beware."
I'm pretty sure the media in the 1890s was still trying to make a profit...when was "yellow" journalism coined? In the 90s? No. This is a delusional look at history.
"Cops," also never showed raids that were at the wrong house, killed innocent people, destroying people's property for small amounts of drugs, racial profiling, calling a SWAT team for a granny, killing animals needlessly, arrested innocent people, forged evidence, planted evidence and otherwise abusing police powers, etc...The list goes on...the police units had full discretion of what aired and what didn't air. There are similar police shows now like "Cops" and it's total propaganda.
The media is just in love with action, and their journalistic integrity goes down the tubes because they are on such a high from tagging along...never questioning (or airing) the bad stuff.
Since most web graphics are 72DPI, does anyone have any comment on how they look on the new 200DPI screens? Is this a non-issue or is every website going to have to transform everything to 200DPI, which is generally seen in magazine print.
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iOS also isn't running on a full fledged OSX core. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 share the same core. If Apple were to announce that OSX and iOS now had the same core, they would have to do the exact same thing. This hurts WP7 users, but is great for developers. You can have an App seamlessly operate on all Windows platforms. That's Microsoft's bet, we'll see if it works. I think there is a good chance it will work.
"Microsoft needs to figure out quickly how to incorporate features, functions and uses that NO OTHER company has thought of. Until then, they will remain completely irrelevant and if I were a stock holder in their company, leave me questioning whether all that R&D money is being spent wisely." I'm assuming you didn't watch the presentation, Windows Phone had a Siri-esque features for a while before Siri launched. They could have the features and you'd never know it; since as you said you've never seen a Windows Phone, and have obviously never made an effort to try one...which just shows that you're kind of a troll. The emphasis on cores was to show that the OS is versatile and will be around...and a backbone for many years to come.
I don't think that's true, perhaps some app features won't be supported. Then again, with WP's low market share making a huge switch like this is a lot less damaging than if, say, Apple had done it. But I am fairly certain that WP7 will be able to run some WP8 apps.
Ugly OS? Ugh, have you seen Metro Apps? They are actually incredibly pleasing to the eyes. http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/17/which-looks-better-a-comparison-between-popular-apps-on-ios-and-windows-phone/
Considering Metro is now the Microsoft start menu on x86 Windows 8, I'm not sure that statement will hold up over time. An HTML 5 driven interface....eventually Microsoft is set to have their OS so lightweight in an RT setting that it could be all from the cloud. They are integrating Windows Phone/Windows 8/Xbox applications which in demos they've shown can be ported by only changing 1-3 lines of code. I don't know Microsoft's overall fate, but their direction is logical...I just don't know how well it's going to be received.
It runs faster than iTunes for one, iTunes on Windows is a bastard stepchild that runs terribly. Zune isn't a music library Nazi; every time I have installed iTunes (usually for an iTunes exclusive) it tries to take over my music library instantly, even going so far as copying my entire library to a completely separate location. I can sync tons of devices and share music across those devices without having them tagged on my account. I can copy entire contents of phones/Zunes without it prompting me for account passwords and DRM nonsense. I once tried to hook up my friend's iPhone to get a video, and I literally couldn't do it. His account was tapped out on devices, the only thing I could do is "back up" the device which is all encoded...and thus completely useless to what I was trying to do. There are some things iTunes is better at though, their store for one, is vastly superior to Zune's.
I hate this Zune example, who even still uses an iPod? Hardly anyone does. They use their iPhone. Microsoft missed the boat with PMP so badly that it literally entered the market as the market was moving on to something else. This is not the case with the tablet, the tablet is tested and true, it will be around for a long long time. That was not the case of specialty music players which...aside from the nano is pretty much dead. No one gets excited about an iPod release, it's all about iPhone and iPad. Zune wasn't a failure because there was no market for Zune itself...it was because the market was already saturated and in decline.
I love how this turned into an Apple/Microsoft flame war instead of an "oh, actually a $45 laptop could help the disproportionately poor have a chance at higher paying jobs." But no, instead we have to talk about how Apple is the best thing since sliced bread, or how Apple is so expensive or how Microsoft is just awful, it'd be better if it ran Linux. Hate to tell you kids, most computers run Windows and if a poor family can afford a Windows machine it gives them a fighting chance in the workplace in a world that is growing more dependent on computers and less on manual labor. Kudos to the makers (and to Microsoft) for making such an achievement, that 10 years ago would be unthinkable.
It's too bad these computers are in the hands of governments instead of people who could do something productive with them other than delegating processes to espionage, war, etc. Even if the computers did major calculations that could point to policy change in government, there are still politicians with motives and bureaucrats within agencies that have to protect their jobs...and hence would never use it productively. So, what's the point?
The fastest computer in the world is useless if it's not being used for a productive purpose.
Monsanto is a subject that has so much hyperbole on both sides (usually those against GMOs), calling the Monsanto pollen a "contaminant" is way overboard and doesn't make much sense at all. Saying Monsanto doesn't attack small farmers is a bit of a stretch, but all companies abuse copyright/patent laws. Just loosen up the laws, reform copyright, patents, licensing, etc. This is not as easy as "it's a contaminant!, let farmers sue!" (and wouldn't they sue the -other- farmer anyhow? Not Monsanto?) Instead it a genuine problem across the spectrum of commerce. From Apple, Motorola, Microsoft and yes, Monsanto. Intellectual property rights are a relatively new idea, and it's going to take decades for it to be sorted out to be more optimal.
Except in this case the company didn't put anything on your property, so this doesn't actually make any sense. Just loosen the restrictions on patent laws, problem solved.
A "contamination" that increases their crop yields drastically and has lower upkeep costs. Yes, yes, let's sue since we are profiting greatly from this "contamination." My neighbor cut his grass and gave me grass allergies, he kicked up a lot of pollen, maybe I'll sue Scott's yard turf. There is no logic to this. Neither should be able to sue. Only if there is outright infringement and theft of a technology, pollination doesn't contaminate fields and and pollination isn't the same as stealing a seed. Patent laws are the vast problem...let's not get all sue happy in the other direction. The last thing the U.S. needs is more lawsuits over stupid, trivial things
"I mainly hate the fact they cut of part of the text,"
Uh, they haven't done that since the Zune HD, I do believe. All -current- content is labelled with no cutoff.
I am pretty sure I've read that WP licensing fees are less than Android in the grand scheme of things. So, that's not at all true.
Kinect, Azure, Surface, Xbox, etc. Even if you hate Microsoft, if you are using the iCloud, you're using Azure, sorry buddy.
Adverts as stories? You mean traditional Microsoft trolling has to be constant here at /.? Your comment fits the usual narrative pretty nicely, at least.
I have been using Windows Phone for a good 6 months now, and I really do feel backward when using people's iPhones. That being said iPhone has the ecosystem that I am envious of, if a friend is playing a game, very often WP doesn't have it (yet.) So that's very frustrating. I think a lot of people just go with the platforms their friends have, the tile system is a bit jarring for those not familiar with it, and it could be improved a lot (sometimes Metro is just -too- simplistic.) However, once you are used to the system, it's a lot more intuitive than iOS. People complain about the tiles, but when using friends phones they have a sea of icons that honestly just hurt my eyes to scroll through. A lot of people think the WP list system is the wrong approach, but tapping on a letter jumps you to the program you want.
WP's biggest flaw is that it is so late to the game, if you walk into an AT&T store, expect to have an iPhone pushed on you, if you walk into a Verizon store, expect an Android device to be pushed on you. Microsoft made the mistake of not getting in bed with one of the major carriers. Google & Verizon/Apple & AT&T have a lot of power over the purchases of potential WP users. I've walked into Verizon stores with the -only- WP device being treated like the step child, and AT&T stores have had WP booths with the phones all powered down. It's pathetic. Old habits die hard. I do think all 3 of the OSes are very good in their own right, but why WP is lagging sort of baffles me, I'd expect it to at least have some interest among youth looking for Xbox Live integration. The Lumia phones are gorgeous, but honestly on the wrong carrier....Verizon should have been the Lumia's focus. AT&T's is pretty saturated with iPhone. Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with their half-assed Kin device on Verizon.
So, my basic answer is carriers, carriers, carriers, even more so than developers.
Any Metro app is going to run across RT and the full version of Windows 8. I don't understand the statements that "nothing will run." Microsoft will have the programs running on tons of different platforms which will be cross compatible, including Windows Phone, and possibly Xbox.
Uh, you realize Surface has been used to coordinate security at the Super Bowl for years, right? It does have commercial uses.
Apple also has a massive profit margin, even larger than Microsofts...who basically makes disks and uses digital distribution (aside from their Xbox division.) Let's not forget that.
Zune wasn't a licensed operating system, that doesn't even begin to make sense as a comparison to a flagship operating system.
Let's see, searching, searching, searching in the OP for a mention that Windows RT includes $400 software prepackaged....searching...not mentioned. What a surprise! People mentioned it here already, oft ignored or told you can use a "free" alternative like Google Docs, which isn't nearly as powerful as Microsoft Office. Or OpenOffice and LibreOffice for that matter. So, a license for a ~$200 OS and a ~$400 office suite (both retail) for $85 at the OEM level is somehow an awful deal.
"The media today isn't the press of 1890s. They're not there to report the truth, they're simply trying to make a buck like the rest of us. If they reported the entire truth, it'll be either boring and people would switch to another outlet, too shocking and people would switch again, or start a revolution that might make the media lose their comfortable home and present way of life. So they don't lie, but they sure as hell don't tell you the entire story. Beware."
I'm pretty sure the media in the 1890s was still trying to make a profit...when was "yellow" journalism coined? In the 90s? No. This is a delusional look at history.
"Cops," also never showed raids that were at the wrong house, killed innocent people, destroying people's property for small amounts of drugs, racial profiling, calling a SWAT team for a granny, killing animals needlessly, arrested innocent people, forged evidence, planted evidence and otherwise abusing police powers, etc...The list goes on...the police units had full discretion of what aired and what didn't air. There are similar police shows now like "Cops" and it's total propaganda. The media is just in love with action, and their journalistic integrity goes down the tubes because they are on such a high from tagging along...never questioning (or airing) the bad stuff.
Since most web graphics are 72DPI, does anyone have any comment on how they look on the new 200DPI screens? Is this a non-issue or is every website going to have to transform everything to 200DPI, which is generally seen in magazine print.