It took many years before radio's financial returns would match its great potential. In the United States, this resulted in a series of companies which sold stock at vastly inflated prices, backed mostly by vastly inflated visions of the companies' prospects. Frank Fayant was in the middle of a multi-part series about stock fraud -- Fools and Their Money -- when he stumbled across the shenanigans going on in radio stocks. The result was a two-part exposé, The Wireless Telegraph Bubble, which details the sorry state of much of the U.S. radio industry during its first decade--Fools and Their Money/The Wireless Telegraph Bubble, Success Magazine, January, 1907 through July, 1907. However, in spite of Fayant's articles, the fraudulent practices would actually accelerate.
And like I mentioned there's all these aging "baby boomers" socking away retirement money and it has to be invested somewhere. The emphasis should be on "it took many years" - look at how long it took msft to get where they are - those in for the long haul will make out, while the "get in/get out" superficial jump-on-the-latest fad & bandwagon crowd will, well, a few might make it and most won't.
naturally, there's often an 'S' curve as the initial enthusiasm yields to reality check - the fed is currently expected to boost interest rates 1/4 point to slow the economy down some, which will deflate a lot of stocks across the board, but I'm expecting the aging, nearing retirement baby-boomers to contine to invest and save a significant part of their incomes for some time to come. Day traders may as well be playing in a casino, a lucky few will get rich quick - but it's those who buy and hold for the long term who eventually get a steady growth/income from their investments that beats inflation or what they can get at the bank.
Personally I'm chomping at the bit to see some Linux sysadm jobs show up - there was one in our local Sunday paper - so I can ditch this embarassing McSE 'rebooter' job and get something I can work with and add value as far as system design goes, not just popping in CD's from Redmond and praying, and getting bitched at every time msft craps out.
after an incident w/ a rental apt where, naturally, the owners can snoop around your privates - I had to buy a house, you can have all the privacy you want, pull the shades, don't create any unusual outside spectacles and your all set. The 'online' world may be different but you just have to be careful what you do online just like you would in a public park or mall, email is like having a conversation in a pub that can be overheard, unless you use the Cone of Silence
Hmmmm - I'm undecided about whether OSS products are going to automatically mean "greater support costs" - Certainly to an experienced *nix hack it is EASIER to maintain an open system than being responsible for the behavior of black-binaries from some dasterdly company that wants hundreds of $$ for support incidents. I've tried out many OSS products where the vendor makes it clear they come with limited support, and for some strange reason I haven't NEEDED any.
However I've another machine we're trying to get Outlook on and it repeated says "There's been a problem that requires you to reboot your PC" - reboot and it says the same thing - which to me says, uh-oh, both the registry AND it's backup are corrupted. Now THATS a support cost in that I'm going to have to spend hours fumbling around in the undocumented bowels of msft, perhaps reinstall everything, to fix. Those are the guys who regularly get dinged for all the "hidden cost of ownership" once you take the bait, at least to those of us who aren't blinded by BS.
Zen Master Jack Not Responsible for Errors in Other Companies Property
...in fall 1983 when they started dumping their formerly $900 pc's for $49.95 - it was 16 bit too! One problem may have been software authors had to submit their work to TI for approval, amongst other thing....
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ach, there's enough unknowns in any modern system to enable some interesting office politics - I've decided that politics is: defending your party leaders right to get away with murder while pointing out your opponents are unfit for office because they didn't dot an 'i' in one report. However, it is MSFT that constantly makes outrageous claims that they can't live up to in adverts - my employers are constantly drooling over cheap-assed consumer pc garbage and the sftware that runs on them, and it keeps me busy with a zillion tasks running around fixing things! I love it! MSFT defects are my job security! Thanks goodness I can keep my guerilla Linux boxen for serious work between fixing the employess constantly breaking video-business games!
It depends on whether we want to have accountability - of software to run airport baggage systems (refering to an oldish Scientific American Article called "The Software Crisis" which featured the Denver Airport programming disaster) - not to mention real mission critical systems like hospital life support, nuke plants, and my payroll. The SciAm 'solution' IS adopting 'formal methodes', at least for critical sub-systems - which basically means VERY expensive, time consuming, and very well thought out, kinda like the software in the space program - it may not be 'latest and greatest' but it's GOT to work, particularly for wo/man'd flights. I'm not sure I can trust the local whiz-kid or starving artist to fulfill that role. An artist or garage band can royally screw up and the worst that happens is nobody buys their art - but I sure wouldn't want a surgeon who has to go into a trance before cutting into the old appendix! Licensing and professional organizations may SEEM like just an exclusive club but I think they add a sense of professionalism for critical jobs - they may still screw up, but then they can be 'disbarred' and booted out, held accountable - so we don't end up with just anybody claiming to be a power engineer, and having their system crash and kill thousands with the only repurcussions being 'opps! Sorry about that!'. But that's pretty much the state of the art with contemporary software licensing - the consumer bears the entire risk of product defect liability. Read any EULA. I'd like to see software where defects mean someone's head rolls on the production end! We used to call it "bet your job".
Heehee - I was just reading some m-oldie mags in the way-back machines and one article was about "Blade Runner" and the city of the future, around 2019, where corporations ruled everything - and one of those corps., haha, was, heehee, get this - the Mighty ATARI Corp. Bwaaahahahaha:))
this is fascinating - what this whole bruhaha seems to be about is generating a new revenue stream, not only from the media, but from the PLAYBACK device as well - like has been said, it's not about copying, but under the guise of restricting access, they claim the right to charge yet another fee - whether paying for a license to the media AS WELL AS paying for a license for something to view the media with will stand up in court, that's the 64 billion $$ question. Maybe these guys are also salivating over M$'s billions, where youse pays for the server, you pays for the client, and then you pays once again for the client to access the server. The more you pay, the better it is! Put another nickle in...
would get a clue - they keep acting like they're afraid of their own shadows and jumping in fright at the littlest thing (kinda like the whole Y2K business all over again). These existance of VCR didn't drive theaters out of business; the existance of the web isn't driving print media out of business; and the ability to play back/copy media - which has existed since media was invented - doesn't automatically lead to rampant piracy and loss of "billions and billions" in revenue, digital or not. Leave people alone, just give us the facts, and we'll do the right thing. Beleive it or not, people are NOT so innately criminal in nature that they need a noose around their necks to keep them honest.
I'm getting a little fed up with the authorities cracking down on the POTENTIAL to commit a crime, like the Ramsey electronics raid, instead of the criminals themselves. Used to be you could copy, say, 8-track tapes. Whoopdedoo. Some people tried to setup for-profit pirate operations, and a lot of them got busted over it to. Nowadays we're guilty of crimes just because we CAN commit them, jeezus.
Those 'confessions' may just be archived and used for someone's profitable writings someday.
I used to read a lot of psychology books w/ many 'case studies' and it suddenly hit me: here these shrinks are getting upwards of $120/hr to listen to people spill their guts, and then they can turn around and write these 'private' confessions in books, using pseudonyms of course, and sell them for more bucks. What a neat racket!
hopefully Linux will benefit from the association with quailty high powered, serious computing applications at affordable licensing prices - while those other guys fill the mass market for wealthy customers who need a superwastey bloto-proactive 3D vr wiz to help them figure out 'double clicking'
if someone gives a performance and receives a warm round of applause, or a cheering standing ovation, that's great. If the audience starts booing and throwing vegatables, is that the audience's fault? Some audiences are well heeled, polite, high class and will charitably clap even for a performance that they didn't really enjoy. Others are rude, crude, spoiled, loud, down and dirty and tell it like they see it, no minced words. When people are gathered together in a crowd they are required under threat of being escorted out by security to maintain a civil demeanor - but it's almost axiomatic that when people can operate under cover of anonimity, like on a cb, or the highway, or a crowd in the street or a pseudonym on a bbs they become different people and pent up frustrations are vented if they feel there will be no repercussions. It's certainly an interesting experiment in crowd psychology for socialists to study. Just remember their bark is worse than their bite.
just noticed someone already said the same damn thing:) (read before posting? Naaaa!)
The Scarlet Pimpernel
Aren't there limits on predictability of wx
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I mean, 'chaos theory' largely came out of wx prediction, specifically the 'butterfly effect' where a very small change in the initial conditions can vary the outcome wildly - what I'm saying is isn't wx naturally pretty 'random and chaotic' (like life!) and that there are some kind of natural theoretical limitations on just how much CAN be predicted, like predicting the toss of a die, no matter how much cpu horsepower you have - kinda like an Uncertainty Principle of Meterology?
Some people just need to get asbestos retinas - but there isn't a day I don't find some neat expression or turn of phrase on./ that makes wading thru all the garbage worthwhile - so thanks to the person who wrote "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize":))
A lot of folks go into tech/engineering profession s because they're better w/ machines than people anyway - and will stick up for their version of 'truth' at the expense of other people's feelings. I think a lot of professionals, particularly in the fast growing computer field, have run into may 'posers', faux authorities, self-appointed ex-purts who needed a job and all the little mistakes they make just pisses them off.
For instance, one fellow at work was giving his view of uP history to a small audience and stated that the Apple II used a Z80 - now I could have either 1) just let it go, or 2) embarass him and stand up to make a correction. One who is a stickler for 'the trvth' often steps on toes and creates bad feelings which often creates a counter attack of some kind. Maybe this is why a lot of 'people oriented' people just like to talk in vague meaningless new-age psychobabble that's not right/wrong or provable one way or other, just a way of sharing feelings.
My friends call it 'intellectual arrogance' that alienates, nobody likes a wise guy, those people who think they know everything are particularly annoying to those of us who do.
Of course this leaves the question: how did the frickin' logic get there?
It was a human-made invention of Aristotle. There's plenty of logic defying randomness in nuclear decay, the Uncertainty principle, and heck, one fellow used the Gödel theorm to show that there's randomness in arithmetic!! The atomic API is still not completely defined.
of participants: HP, CERN, IBM, Intel, et al.
...and tonight, Mr. Kite will challenge the world
Agent 88
(Physical Address Extensions) to access up to
8Gb (>32 bits) at least on the $3,300 "Advanced Server"
Sounds like segmented addresses all over again.
Agent 64
my GAF viewmaster, gosh, with the Grand Canyon and Aircraft carrier reels I love it!
Agent 32
I personally expect the whole IT-industry stocks to implode, but that is no specific linux problem.
thought this would be a good point to interject this, from US Early Radio History:
It took many years before radio's financial returns would match its great potential. In the United States, this resulted in a series of companies which sold stock at vastly inflated prices, backed mostly by vastly inflated visions of the companies' prospects. Frank Fayant was in the middle of a multi-part series about stock fraud -- Fools and Their Money -- when he stumbled across the shenanigans going on in radio stocks. The result was a two-part exposé, The Wireless Telegraph Bubble, which details the sorry state of much of the U.S. radio industry during its first decade--Fools and Their Money/The Wireless Telegraph Bubble, Success Magazine, January, 1907 through July, 1907. However, in spite of Fayant's articles, the fraudulent practices would actually accelerate.
And like I mentioned there's all these aging "baby boomers" socking away retirement money and it has to be invested somewhere. The emphasis should be on "it took many years" - look at how long it took msft to get where they are - those in for the long haul will make out, while the "get in/get out" superficial jump-on-the-latest fad & bandwagon crowd will, well, a few might make it and most won't.
Agent 32
18 yrs old, uncommented, looks like heiroglyphics to me now :) Hmmm, something about a 'stack'.
Agent 32
naturally, there's often an 'S' curve as the initial enthusiasm yields to reality check - the fed is currently expected to boost interest rates 1/4 point to slow the economy down some, which will deflate a lot of stocks across the board, but I'm expecting the aging, nearing retirement baby-boomers to contine to invest and save a significant part of their incomes for some time to come. Day traders may as well be playing in a casino, a lucky few will get rich quick - but it's those who buy and hold for the long term who eventually get a steady growth/income from their investments that beats inflation or what they can get at the bank.
Personally I'm chomping at the bit to see some Linux sysadm jobs show up - there was one in our local Sunday paper - so I can ditch this embarassing McSE 'rebooter' job and get something I can work with and add value as far as system design goes, not just popping in CD's from Redmond and praying, and getting bitched at every time msft craps out.
Agent 32
after an incident w/ a rental apt where, naturally, the owners can snoop around your privates - I had to buy a house, you can have all the privacy you want, pull the shades, don't create any unusual outside spectacles and your all set. The 'online' world may be different but you just have to be careful what you do online just like you would in a public park or mall, email is like having a conversation in a pub that can be overheard, unless you use the Cone of Silence
Agent 32
Hmmmm - I'm undecided about whether OSS products are going to automatically mean "greater support costs" - Certainly to an experienced *nix hack it is EASIER to maintain an open system than being responsible for the behavior of black-binaries from some dasterdly company that wants hundreds of $$ for support incidents. I've tried out many OSS products where the vendor makes it clear they come with limited support, and for some strange reason I haven't NEEDED any.
However I've another machine we're trying to get Outlook on and it repeated says "There's been a problem that requires you to reboot your PC" - reboot and it says the same thing - which to me says, uh-oh, both the registry AND it's backup are corrupted. Now THATS a support cost in that I'm going to have to spend hours fumbling around in the undocumented bowels of msft, perhaps reinstall everything, to fix. Those are the guys who regularly get dinged for all the "hidden cost of ownership" once you take the bait, at least to those of us who aren't blinded by BS.
Zen Master Jack
Not Responsible for Errors in Other Companies Property
like this having a meeting.
Zen Master Jack
...in fall 1983 when they started dumping their formerly $900 pc's for $49.95 - it was 16 bit too!
One problem may have been software authors had to submit their work to TI for approval, amongst other thing....
This Ancient History factoid brought to you by:
Ye Olde Phart
Zen Master Jack
ach, there's enough unknowns in any modern system to enable some interesting office politics - I've decided that politics is: defending your party leaders right to get away with murder while pointing out your opponents are unfit for office because they didn't dot an 'i' in one report. However, it is MSFT that constantly makes outrageous claims that they can't live up to in adverts - my employers are constantly drooling over cheap-assed consumer pc garbage and the sftware that runs on them, and it keeps me busy with a zillion tasks running around fixing things! I love it! MSFT defects are my job security! Thanks goodness I can keep my guerilla Linux boxen for serious work between fixing the employess constantly breaking video-business games!
The Scarlet Pimpernel
It depends on whether we want to have accountability - of software to run airport baggage systems (refering to an oldish Scientific American Article called "The Software Crisis" which featured the Denver Airport programming disaster) - not to mention real mission critical systems like hospital life support, nuke plants, and my payroll. The SciAm 'solution' IS adopting 'formal methodes', at least for critical sub-systems - which basically means VERY expensive, time consuming, and very well thought out, kinda like the software in the space program - it may not be 'latest and greatest' but it's GOT to work, particularly for wo/man'd flights. I'm not sure I can trust the local whiz-kid or starving artist to fulfill that role. An artist or garage band can royally screw up and the worst that happens is nobody buys their art - but I sure wouldn't want a surgeon who has to go into a trance before cutting into the old appendix!
Licensing and professional organizations may SEEM like just an exclusive club but I think they add a sense of professionalism for critical jobs - they may still screw up, but then they can be 'disbarred' and booted out, held accountable - so we don't end up with just anybody claiming to be a power engineer, and having their system crash and kill thousands with the only repurcussions being 'opps! Sorry about that!'. But that's pretty much the state of the art with contemporary software licensing - the consumer bears the entire risk of product defect liability. Read any EULA. I'd like to see software where defects mean someone's head rolls on the production end! We used to call it "bet your job".
The Scarlet Pimpernel
Heehee - I was just reading some m-oldie mags in the way-back machines and one article was about "Blade Runner" and the city of the future, around 2019, where corporations ruled everything - and one of those corps., haha, was, heehee, get this - the Mighty ATARI Corp. Bwaaahahahaha :))
The Scarlet Pimpernel
this is fascinating - what this whole bruhaha seems to be about is generating a new revenue stream, not only from the media, but from the PLAYBACK device as well - like has been said, it's not about copying, but under the guise of restricting access, they claim the right to charge yet another fee - whether paying for a license to the media AS WELL AS paying for a license for something to view the media with will stand up in court, that's the 64 billion $$ question. Maybe these guys are also salivating over M$'s billions, where youse pays for the server, you pays for the client, and then you pays once again for the client to access the server. The more you pay, the better it is! Put another nickle in...
The Scarlet Pimpernel
would get a clue - they keep acting like they're afraid of their own shadows and jumping in fright at the littlest thing (kinda like the whole Y2K business all over again). These existance of VCR didn't drive theaters out of business; the existance of the web isn't driving print media out of business; and the ability to play back/copy media - which has existed since media was invented - doesn't automatically lead to rampant piracy and loss of "billions and billions" in revenue, digital or not. Leave people alone, just give us the facts, and we'll do the right thing. Beleive it or not, people are NOT so innately criminal in nature that they need a noose around their necks to keep them honest.
I'm getting a little fed up with the authorities cracking down on the POTENTIAL to commit a crime, like the Ramsey electronics raid, instead of the criminals themselves. Used to be you could copy, say, 8-track tapes. Whoopdedoo. Some people tried to setup for-profit pirate operations, and a lot of them got busted over it to. Nowadays we're guilty of crimes just because we CAN commit them, jeezus.
The Scarlet Pimpernel
Those 'confessions' may just be archived and used for someone's profitable writings someday.
I used to read a lot of psychology books w/ many 'case studies' and it suddenly hit me: here these shrinks are getting upwards of $120/hr to listen to people spill their guts, and then they can turn around and write these 'private' confessions in books, using pseudonyms of course, and sell them for more bucks. What a neat racket!
The Scarlet Pimpernel
hopefully Linux will benefit from the association with quailty high powered, serious computing applications at affordable licensing prices - while those other guys fill the mass market for wealthy customers who need a superwastey bloto-proactive 3D vr wiz to help them figure out 'double clicking'
The Scarlet Pimpernel
if someone gives a performance and receives a warm round of applause, or a cheering standing ovation, that's great. If the audience starts booing and throwing vegatables, is that the audience's fault? Some audiences are well heeled, polite, high class and will charitably clap even for a performance that they didn't really enjoy. Others are rude, crude, spoiled, loud, down and dirty and tell it like they see it, no minced words. When people are gathered together in a crowd they are required under threat of being escorted out by security to maintain a civil demeanor - but it's almost axiomatic that when people can operate under cover of anonimity, like on a cb, or the highway, or a crowd in the street or a pseudonym on a bbs they become different people and pent up frustrations are vented if they feel there will be no repercussions. It's certainly an interesting experiment in crowd psychology for socialists to study. Just remember their bark is worse than their bite.
The Scarlet Pimpernel
just noticed someone already said the same damn thing :)
(read before posting? Naaaa!)
The Scarlet Pimpernel
I mean, 'chaos theory' largely came out of wx prediction, specifically the 'butterfly effect' where a very small change in the initial conditions can vary the outcome wildly - what I'm saying is isn't wx naturally pretty 'random and chaotic' (like life!) and that there are some kind of natural theoretical limitations on just how much CAN be predicted, like predicting the toss of a die, no matter how much cpu horsepower you have - kinda like an Uncertainty Principle of Meterology?
The Scarlet Pimpernel
The Scarlet Pimpernel
Creativity.
./ that makes wading thru all the garbage worthwhile - so thanks to the person who wrote "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize" :))
Some people just need to get asbestos retinas - but there isn't a day I don't find some neat expression or turn of phrase on
The Scarlet Pimpernel
A lot of folks go into tech/engineering profession s because they're better w/ machines than people anyway - and will stick up for their version of 'truth' at the expense of other people's feelings. I think a lot of professionals, particularly in the fast growing computer field, have run into may 'posers', faux authorities, self-appointed ex-purts who needed a job and all the little mistakes they make just pisses them off.
For instance, one fellow at work was giving his view of uP history to a small audience and stated that the Apple II used a Z80 - now I could have either 1) just let it go, or 2) embarass him and stand up to make a correction. One who is a stickler for 'the trvth' often steps on toes and creates bad feelings which often creates a counter attack of some kind. Maybe this is why a lot of 'people oriented' people just like to talk in vague meaningless new-age psychobabble that's not right/wrong or provable one way or other, just a way of sharing feelings.
My friends call it 'intellectual arrogance' that alienates, nobody likes a wise guy, those people who think they know everything are particularly annoying to those of us who do.
The Scarlet Pimpernel
the need for adopting IPv6/ng
The Scarlet Pimpernel
Of course this leaves the question: how did the frickin' logic get there?
It was a human-made invention of Aristotle. There's plenty of logic defying randomness in nuclear decay, the Uncertainty principle, and heck, one fellow used the Gödel theorm to show that there's randomness in arithmetic!! The atomic API is still not completely defined.