I don't know if I'd hire someone to program for me if they did not have a college education.
Only 20% of the people in my generation went to university in the UK. Some of the rest went out and got a job and gained three years industry experience while I was pissing about partying and playing MUDs.
In IT (maybe more than other careers), hire people based on their skills, experience and capability. The industry is full of intelligent knowledgeable passionate people that couldn't be arsed with this continued education nonsense.
Disclosure: Yeah, I do still mention my degree on my CV. It would be silly not to:)
Multiple multi-billion Indian outsourcing firms have proven very effectively that you can great a successful large scale operation - in IT no less - with very much below median people.
It's all down to process. Their processes deliver shitty work but they deliver it fast, they deliver it cheaply and they have a massive market that prioritises those two outcomes.
Joyfully I've found that if I go home at lunchtime and work from home in the afternoons, everybody looks at my contribution instead of worrying about my time in the office.
Without commenting on the behaviour of the US Army Core of Engineers, infecting people with germs through use of blankets was indeed known at the time.
If you're a Firefox user there's zero cost to switching.
The very real cost is needing to start up another browser to use certain websites, or specific capabilities of certain websites.
This is happening at an increasing rate and unless better compatibility with whatever web standard those sites are using lands quickly I may have to switch to another main browser.
It would be a shame, but a browser that can't render the web isn't terribly helpful.
I fear your utter misinterpretation of his fairly simple point.
In related news, hide a camera in my bathroom and the police will be paying you a visit. However, for $55m I'll visit your professional studio so you can photograph me naked. Shit, I'll do a goatse pose and everything.
You do realise that an 'after party' can also be a corporate event?
This one does indeed appear to have been both.
You mean that nobody knew that there would be girls wearing green and dancing in a las vegas night club, where alcohol is served 24/7/365, on saint patricks day of all days.
See, you've highlighted the real scandal here. Holding an event in Las Vegas. Sad fake place.
Helsingius has been a personal hero of mine since 1996. Levison joins him on that very short, very distinguished list.
Pamela Jones may make it a trio, if we find out she shut down Groklaw due to actual attempts to compromise her sources rather than fears that might happen.
It's quite possible that minimum wage workers aged 25 years or older are indeed working for supplemental income. It's also certain that some minimum wage workers aged 25 or over are working full time and working for supplemental income.
Especially those whose two or more jobs all pay minimum wage.
I work 45-60 hour weeks because I enjoy my job and it pays me well. Other people work 60 hour weeks because it pays the rent and buys them food.
A full time job is mostly meaningless in this discussion.
This is where a paper based system has a useful feature: In one election I just wrote "These candidates are all cunts" across the paper which invalidated it as 'intentionally spoiled'.
Thus I got to cast my vote without supporting any of the individual candidates.
Well, it's hard to retain logic when arguing with an idiot.
I'll try: There is no basis for your fear laden argument that leaving the EU will lead to a European war. None.
In the absence of logic against which to argue I'm sure you can understand that I too leapt into the realms of fantasy, albeit on slightly more solid grounds than your own.
The country is not full. Clearly it isn't - just look at a map (one of the many things invented by dastardly foreigners). The Isle of Wight is not even full yet. Get a grip.
Maybe you want to live on an island covered in concrete. I don't.
I like having countryside, green spaces, farmland, forests.
Conjecture and fear? Yeah, I seriously fucking fear idiots like you, pretending we can just keep adding more and more people into a limited space without drastically impacting quality of life let alone the multiple ecosystems across the country.
Fuck you and your desire to live nose-to-toe stacked 8 people deep. Go and live in Singapore or Gibralter if that's your idea of ideal population.
No, I'm choosing not to make the same assumption that you are.
Shit, can you see Cameron kicking out all the foreigners even in the event the UK leaves the EU? The volume of non-EU immigration demonstrates very capably how much the current government wants high immigration.
we have a sovereign nation and make our own laws, less than 20% are influenced by Europe and that is to do with harmonisation
Bullshit. Cameron just went to Europe and begged to be allowed to impose our own constraints on who we give benefits to, and was told he's not allowed.
That is not sovereignty.
I've not yet seen any of the european laws be something we wouldn't have enacted ourselves at some point (if we got some decent MPs with courage) .
Freedom of movement laws are causing a lot of the current disquiet within and beyond the UK. The UK is not allowed to shut down our borders and impose controls on the movement of EU nationals, whether we want to or not.
We do not support our native workers when we buy foreign produced things like BMWs and Volvos.
We support them even less when we let foreign workers come into the UK and work for lower wages, supplemented by benefits. Even if you 'buy British' there's no guarantee anybody native to the islands will actually benefit.
This "successful period of history" has happened since we have been in the EU, in 1970s when we were outside the EU, our economy was in the shit.
Well done on finding the only decade in the past three centuries.
Being in the EU has not stopped us from trading with anyone.
Being outside of the EU would not stop us trading with anyone.
Incidentally, being in the EU has very explicitly prevented me from trading with someone. I used to buy my music legally on record company produced CDs from Hong Kong. The EU ruled that this damaged revenues within its borders and prevented that trade from occurring.
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I don't know if I'd hire someone to program for me if they did not have a college education.
Only 20% of the people in my generation went to university in the UK. Some of the rest went out and got a job and gained three years industry experience while I was pissing about partying and playing MUDs.
In IT (maybe more than other careers), hire people based on their skills, experience and capability. The industry is full of intelligent knowledgeable passionate people that couldn't be arsed with this continued education nonsense.
Disclosure: Yeah, I do still mention my degree on my CV. It would be silly not to :)
Multiple multi-billion Indian outsourcing firms have proven very effectively that you can great a successful large scale operation - in IT no less - with very much below median people.
It's all down to process. Their processes deliver shitty work but they deliver it fast, they deliver it cheaply and they have a massive market that prioritises those two outcomes.
Joyfully I've found that if I go home at lunchtime and work from home in the afternoons, everybody looks at my contribution instead of worrying about my time in the office.
I like my current employer, it has sane policies.
Without commenting on the behaviour of the US Army Core of Engineers, infecting people with germs through use of blankets was indeed known at the time.
E.g. http://www.nativeweb.org/pages... is giving approval to do exactly that, in 1763.
So your entire basis for dispelling the alleged myth is flawed and false, sorry.
If you're a Firefox user there's zero cost to switching.
The very real cost is needing to start up another browser to use certain websites, or specific capabilities of certain websites.
This is happening at an increasing rate and unless better compatibility with whatever web standard those sites are using lands quickly I may have to switch to another main browser.
It would be a shame, but a browser that can't render the web isn't terribly helpful.
I fear your utter misinterpretation of his fairly simple point.
In related news, hide a camera in my bathroom and the police will be paying you a visit. However, for $55m I'll visit your professional studio so you can photograph me naked. Shit, I'll do a goatse pose and everything.
You do realise that an 'after party' can also be a corporate event?
This one does indeed appear to have been both.
You mean that nobody knew that there would be girls wearing green and dancing in a las vegas night club, where alcohol is served 24/7/365, on saint patricks day of all days.
See, you've highlighted the real scandal here. Holding an event in Las Vegas. Sad fake place.
Helsingius has been a personal hero of mine since 1996.
Levison joins him on that very short, very distinguished list.
Pamela Jones may make it a trio, if we find out she shut down Groklaw due to actual attempts to compromise her sources rather than fears that might happen.
It's quite possible that minimum wage workers aged 25 years or older are indeed working for supplemental income. It's also certain that some minimum wage workers aged 25 or over are working full time and working for supplemental income.
Especially those whose two or more jobs all pay minimum wage.
I work 45-60 hour weeks because I enjoy my job and it pays me well. Other people work 60 hour weeks because it pays the rent and buys them food.
A full time job is mostly meaningless in this discussion.
This is where a paper based system has a useful feature: In one election I just wrote "These candidates are all cunts" across the paper which invalidated it as 'intentionally spoiled'.
Thus I got to cast my vote without supporting any of the individual candidates.
How many of the Mathematicians and Engineers working on those programs had computers at their disposal?
Erm. Many of them - https://search.googleblog.com/...
coders don't do shit for free
You do realise the internet is pretty much built on code written for free?
thank you
Well, it's hard to retain logic when arguing with an idiot.
I'll try: There is no basis for your fear laden argument that leaving the EU will lead to a European war. None.
In the absence of logic against which to argue I'm sure you can understand that I too leapt into the realms of fantasy, albeit on slightly more solid grounds than your own.
The country is not full. Clearly it isn't - just look at a map (one of the many things invented by dastardly foreigners). The Isle of Wight is not even full yet. Get a grip.
Maybe you want to live on an island covered in concrete. I don't.
I like having countryside, green spaces, farmland, forests.
Conjecture and fear? Yeah, I seriously fucking fear idiots like you, pretending we can just keep adding more and more people into a limited space without drastically impacting quality of life let alone the multiple ecosystems across the country.
Fuck you and your desire to live nose-to-toe stacked 8 people deep. Go and live in Singapore or Gibralter if that's your idea of ideal population.
No, I'm choosing not to make the same assumption that you are.
Shit, can you see Cameron kicking out all the foreigners even in the event the UK leaves the EU? The volume of non-EU immigration demonstrates very capably how much the current government wants high immigration.
we have a sovereign nation and make our own laws, less than 20% are influenced by Europe and that is to do with harmonisation
Bullshit. Cameron just went to Europe and begged to be allowed to impose our own constraints on who we give benefits to, and was told he's not allowed.
That is not sovereignty.
I've not yet seen any of the european laws be something we wouldn't have enacted ourselves at some point (if we got some decent MPs with courage) .
Freedom of movement laws are causing a lot of the current disquiet within and beyond the UK. The UK is not allowed to shut down our borders and impose controls on the movement of EU nationals, whether we want to or not.
We do not support our native workers when we buy foreign produced things like BMWs and Volvos.
We support them even less when we let foreign workers come into the UK and work for lower wages, supplemented by benefits. Even if you 'buy British' there's no guarantee anybody native to the islands will actually benefit.
This "successful period of history" has happened since we have been in the EU, in 1970s when we were outside the EU, our economy was in the shit.
Well done on finding the only decade in the past three centuries.
Being in the EU has not stopped us from trading with anyone.
Being outside of the EU would not stop us trading with anyone.
Incidentally, being in the EU has very explicitly prevented me from trading with someone. I used to buy my music legally on record company produced CDs from Hong Kong. The EU ruled that this damaged revenues within its borders and prevented that trade from occurring.
There are other examples..
I use uBlock Origin and have been getting that error message for a few months.
I just hit F5 and the video almost always starts to play for me.
Your reaction to a contextless comment containing no names, references, locations or accusations kind of tells the whole fucking story.
Whereas Slashdot has been discussing gun control since Columbine.
Still no agreement, just a better set of statistics available online to back whatever argument you're trying to make.
I guess we'd better stop white people from running banks too.
Or perhaps we could identify the underlying issues, challenging, causes and address those. The colour of someone's skin is incidental.
Based on your Slashdot posting history, yes.
Given you're infinitely more likely to shoot me with your firearm than I am to punch you in the head, you're the dangerous idiot around here.
Incentivising just killing someone.
"Why did you kill this man with a second bullet in the head after claiming you'd only shot him by accident?" "I couldn't afford his medical bills"
Oh, Microsoft's CEO is from the UK? I didn't realise. Which part?