Incitement to hatred against religion is already illegal in this country. Stating that there is no god used to be, under blasphemy laws and I'm not sure whether they still exist.
I can however, and will in court, demand that the offended party appears in person. Failure by a deity to turn up will be my ultimate defence.
Only after that do I start killing people. Some things are worth going to prison for, and preventing theistic forms of government in my country are on my list.
Why the fuck would I want to do that? I live in a country that doesn't have the death penalty, in which I can fight to prevent US interests overriding our own.
Far more of an issue is your attitude. Instead of making a point that "It's worse over there" how about starting work on "It should be better over here"?
Personally I'd like to see it get better everywhere, and identifying where improvements are needed is a necessary step on that journey.
I've never heard of this Burt Prelutsky, but is he always an ignorant cunt?
I mean, seriously? Nobody's worried about jewish people building houses in Israel. They're pretty fucking pissed about Israeli people building houses in Palestine but that's a very different thing.
Not to mention the attempt to incite religious divide by naming the activities of two religions, rather than the fuckwits practicing either.
The idiots in Tehran would be idiots in any religion. The Israelis illegally settling in Palestine may actually be Christian, atheist or in fact fucking Muslim themselves.
No wonder you posted as AC, I too would be ashamed to have made such an ignorant and stupid statement.
No, in the US you only need to be born black in Detroit to be put to death.
Meanwhile hosting a website that links to other websites can earn you 20 years in jail when you've never even fucking visited the fucking country.
I haven't even mentioned the decade of torture and false imprisonment in a foreign country for the evil crime of "pissing off someone that works for the Americans". Or do you really believe that everyone in Guantanamo is guilty?
Trust me, from where I'm sat the US poses are far greater threat to my ongoing life and freedom than Iran does.
To an extent, I already do. I tend not to vote _for_ an issue, but I will vote against one.
E.g. the Lib Dems failed to get a vote from me at one election only because they'd have handed over more sovereignty to the EU. Thank fuck they didn't win that election or we'd currently be suffering the Euro shitstorm from the inside.
I support the concept of prostitution, where people should be permitted to make a living providing physical services to others.
I can't support the reality of prostitution due to the ease and prevalence of abuse by pimps, people traffickers and other predators.
Piracy might be illegal but trust me, it's nowhere near as immoral as the people making money off prostitution without being active participants in it.
To get those $$$ perhaps you should start by suing the water company for destruction of your valuable property by spilling their water all over it every time it rains.
I'm pretty sure that this wasn't simply a case of the United States throwing it's weight around.
I'm pretty sure it was.
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So who asked you to contribute? Nobody asked any of those men to contribute either - they either attempted to meet a need nobody else was meeting or spotted an opportunity to give back to a community that had served them well.
The open source development I've done was both excellent fun and also a way of giving back to a community I'd benefited from. Everybody wins, and we had female developers in that community providing equal value and getting equal recognition.
If you don't want to use open source software, that's ok. If you don't want to contribute to making it better, that's ok too. If you don't want women trying to get more women into open source programming then I'm just not sure of your motivations.
No real effort to address the problem. Jokes, insults, and inanity.
Jokes, insults and inanity are standard responses to any Ask Slashdot.
There'd be more effort to address the problem if everybody thought there was a problem.
Why make an open source contribution if I have no expectation of it being taken seriously
So start your own open source project. Contribute anonymously (as you just have, to this discussion). Stand your ground and defend your contribution against any bigots.
If you don't _want_ to contibute then don't. Just don't complain when one of the most egalitarian communities on the planet doesn't bend over backwards to meet your needs.
I do everything online under a pseudonym. Several of the ones I use are female in nature, but that's a whole other discussion. But if it helps you any, Git and Subversion don't mind if you submit code under the name Sally either.
Facts: 1 - male brain is different than female brain 2 - 80% of software developers are male (using stats from above) 3 - 88% of primary school teachers are female (source: BBC)
Conclusion: male brain is different than female brain.
I concur. I wont say, "Hey, you can't treat women like that", I'll say, "Sorry, I don't want bullying/abusive behaviour here".
The behaviour is what's unacceptable, irrespective of whether it's male against female, female against male, racist, homophobic or taking the piss out of my dancing ability.
Depends on the games you play. I've made friends online with several ladies that play MMOs while their babies sleep - they'll go AFK for a nappy change, a feed, etc.
Nobody gives them any grief, nobody mocks them, similarly nobody blinks when one of the men in our guild goes "sorry guys, baby's just woken up, I'd better go feed her before she wakes the wife".
Nice display of bigotry. You think women aren't just as good at making environments hostile? Have you ever seen a crowd of women and their attitude to a single man? Especially if he's socially awkward or even just shy?
I challenge people around me. I expect a lot from them and I treat them equally. If you're expecting to be treated differently because of your gender then frankly that is sexism.
If you expect to be approached in a manner that suits your personality type then that's reasonable, and I make efforts to understand my colleagues and change my approach based on that. But I'm not going to shy away from calling out the sarcastic aggressive bigoted woman when she's being a bully just because she's a woman, and yes, I've had to do that recently. She responded by calling me sexist, so I'm currently building up written documentation so that I can raise a formal grievance for bullying if she tries it again.
There's a strong difference between being PC and being sexist. Shit, just yesterday I used the term "you guys" and got yelled at because a woman in the group didn't want to be a "guy". As a colleague queried, would she rather I used the term "you guys and gals" ? I used "guys" in a gender indeterminate manner, I used it when talking to an all-female group and to an all-male group so I don't think twice about using it to a mixed audience.
Is it any wonder that the only women who make it into the highest levels of programming have learned to cope by pretending to be a guy, or acting the bitch just to get their way?:(
I find very little as pathetic as the woman that pretends to be upset that she's had to act the bitch in order to get promoted. I don't act like a bitch to get promoted so why the hell does she think it's acceptable for her?
Here's a small hint: Senior managers that are cunts are still cunts whatever shape their body is. Great managers are great managers whatever the pitch of their voice. Please don't patronise me by suggesting women have to act like men because in my experience, they're just as capable of being bigoted bullies all by themselves.
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Incitement to hatred against religion is already illegal in this country. Stating that there is no god used to be, under blasphemy laws and I'm not sure whether they still exist.
I can however, and will in court, demand that the offended party appears in person. Failure by a deity to turn up will be my ultimate defence.
Only after that do I start killing people. Some things are worth going to prison for, and preventing theistic forms of government in my country are on my list.
Why the fuck would I want to do that? I live in a country that doesn't have the death penalty, in which I can fight to prevent US interests overriding our own.
Far more of an issue is your attitude. Instead of making a point that "It's worse over there" how about starting work on "It should be better over here"?
Personally I'd like to see it get better everywhere, and identifying where improvements are needed is a necessary step on that journey.
I've never heard of this Burt Prelutsky, but is he always an ignorant cunt?
I mean, seriously? Nobody's worried about jewish people building houses in Israel. They're pretty fucking pissed about Israeli people building houses in Palestine but that's a very different thing.
Not to mention the attempt to incite religious divide by naming the activities of two religions, rather than the fuckwits practicing either.
The idiots in Tehran would be idiots in any religion. The Israelis illegally settling in Palestine may actually be Christian, atheist or in fact fucking Muslim themselves.
No wonder you posted as AC, I too would be ashamed to have made such an ignorant and stupid statement.
No, in the US you only need to be born black in Detroit to be put to death.
Meanwhile hosting a website that links to other websites can earn you 20 years in jail when you've never even fucking visited the fucking country.
I haven't even mentioned the decade of torture and false imprisonment in a foreign country for the evil crime of "pissing off someone that works for the Americans". Or do you really believe that everyone in Guantanamo is guilty?
Trust me, from where I'm sat the US poses are far greater threat to my ongoing life and freedom than Iran does.
Why?
Particularly, why is the kissy kissing abhorrent but not the fucking that may follow it?
If she's got a 3yo then someone's already fucked her.
Sorry but while black people use the term nigger without getting punished for it, I have no issue with anybody else using it.
There is no evidence of a god. I do not believe that one exists. That makes me an atheist.
I do not have to assert that there is no god, you merely have to provide credible evidence that there is.
Because they're ignorant cunts.
Sorry, my bad. Ignorant abusive cunts.
Perhaps I should be more accurate. Malicious, ignorant abusive cunts.
To an extent, I already do. I tend not to vote _for_ an issue, but I will vote against one.
E.g. the Lib Dems failed to get a vote from me at one election only because they'd have handed over more sovereignty to the EU. Thank fuck they didn't win that election or we'd currently be suffering the Euro shitstorm from the inside.
I support the concept of prostitution, where people should be permitted to make a living providing physical services to others.
I can't support the reality of prostitution due to the ease and prevalence of abuse by pimps, people traffickers and other predators.
Piracy might be illegal but trust me, it's nowhere near as immoral as the people making money off prostitution without being active participants in it.
You're a cunt. Fuck off this website, it's a nice place and you don't belong.
To get those $$$ perhaps you should start by suing the water company for destruction of your valuable property by spilling their water all over it every time it rains.
I'm pretty sure that this wasn't simply a case of the United States throwing it's weight around.
I'm pretty sure it was.
(Slashdot: It's 13 seconds since you hit reply. Yes, that's because I'm not typing out an entire fucking essay and even after a bottle of vodka I can type five fucking words in under a minute. Come on Slashdot editors, fix this shit.)
You didn't follow his link. The issue isn't the Berne Convention, it's forcing British citizens to obey US laws while in Britain.
Just so that you know: We didn't make that choice. We're fighting against the consequences. Follow his link for a full discussion on the matter.
So who asked you to contribute? Nobody asked any of those men to contribute either - they either attempted to meet a need nobody else was meeting or spotted an opportunity to give back to a community that had served them well.
The open source development I've done was both excellent fun and also a way of giving back to a community I'd benefited from. Everybody wins, and we had female developers in that community providing equal value and getting equal recognition.
If you don't want to use open source software, that's ok. If you don't want to contribute to making it better, that's ok too. If you don't want women trying to get more women into open source programming then I'm just not sure of your motivations.
No real effort to address the problem. Jokes, insults, and inanity.
Jokes, insults and inanity are standard responses to any Ask Slashdot.
There'd be more effort to address the problem if everybody thought there was a problem.
Why make an open source contribution if I have no expectation of it being taken seriously
So start your own open source project. Contribute anonymously (as you just have, to this discussion). Stand your ground and defend your contribution against any bigots.
If you don't _want_ to contibute then don't. Just don't complain when one of the most egalitarian communities on the planet doesn't bend over backwards to meet your needs.
Oh fuck yes. I'd get an instant 10% payrise and my choice of jobs as a woman, let alone the nicer range of clothing.
Shit, even when dancing women get to choose whether to lead or follow; men are largely forced to lead.
I do everything online under a pseudonym. Several of the ones I use are female in nature, but that's a whole other discussion. But if it helps you any, Git and Subversion don't mind if you submit code under the name Sally either.
a pink sun dress and blue jeans
erm. That doesn't sound unlike some of the outfits the girls I dance with.
I _think_ they dress themselves. I mean, some of them are mothers.
Facts:
1 - male brain is different than female brain
2 - 80% of software developers are male (using stats from above)
3 - 88% of primary school teachers are female (source: BBC)
Conclusion: male brain is different than female brain.
I concur. I wont say, "Hey, you can't treat women like that", I'll say, "Sorry, I don't want bullying/abusive behaviour here".
The behaviour is what's unacceptable, irrespective of whether it's male against female, female against male, racist, homophobic or taking the piss out of my dancing ability.
The worst, which actually makes me feel like dirt when it happens, is getting shouted at for holding the door. I hold the door for people, not women
Yeah, been there. The look of disdain and actually being told that my courtesy was unwanted seriously pissed me off.
I hold the door open for the next person (if they're close enough) irrespective of who they are.
Indeed... I get annoyed at men who think that laundry shouldn't be their job either.
I got unnecessarily distressed last year at a woman thinking it was ok to mock me because I do my own laundry.
Gender splits in general are bogus.
Breast-feeding aside, I'd agree.
Depends on the games you play. I've made friends online with several ladies that play MMOs while their babies sleep - they'll go AFK for a nappy change, a feed, etc.
Nobody gives them any grief, nobody mocks them, similarly nobody blinks when one of the men in our guild goes "sorry guys, baby's just woken up, I'd better go feed her before she wakes the wife".
Nice display of bigotry. You think women aren't just as good at making environments hostile? Have you ever seen a crowd of women and their attitude to a single man? Especially if he's socially awkward or even just shy?
I challenge people around me. I expect a lot from them and I treat them equally. If you're expecting to be treated differently because of your gender then frankly that is sexism.
If you expect to be approached in a manner that suits your personality type then that's reasonable, and I make efforts to understand my colleagues and change my approach based on that. But I'm not going to shy away from calling out the sarcastic aggressive bigoted woman when she's being a bully just because she's a woman, and yes, I've had to do that recently. She responded by calling me sexist, so I'm currently building up written documentation so that I can raise a formal grievance for bullying if she tries it again.
There's a strong difference between being PC and being sexist. Shit, just yesterday I used the term "you guys" and got yelled at because a woman in the group didn't want to be a "guy". As a colleague queried, would she rather I used the term "you guys and gals" ? I used "guys" in a gender indeterminate manner, I used it when talking to an all-female group and to an all-male group so I don't think twice about using it to a mixed audience.
Is it any wonder that the only women who make it into the highest levels of programming have learned to cope by pretending to be a guy, or acting the bitch just to get their way? :(
I find very little as pathetic as the woman that pretends to be upset that she's had to act the bitch in order to get promoted. I don't act like a bitch to get promoted so why the hell does she think it's acceptable for her?
Here's a small hint: Senior managers that are cunts are still cunts whatever shape their body is. Great managers are great managers whatever the pitch of their voice. Please don't patronise me by suggesting women have to act like men because in my experience, they're just as capable of being bigoted bullies all by themselves.