Interfering with a prosecution is something that must be taken seriously, so I can understand the concern there. And she did in fact avoid jail, so the response does feel somewhat more proportionate than in this case.
I'm just not from a "lock 'em up" school. I want better, more appropriate and useful (to society, and to the offender) responses to crime and civil disturbance.
Why should I respect a bag of rotting flesh? This may be a societal norm, but that doesn't mean that it's unreasonable to disregard it.
It probably is unreasonable to seek out grieving families and taunt them, but I also think it's unreasonable to use Facebook so my sympathy levels are low.
She was extremely lucky not to get a substantial jail sentence
It may just be me, but jailing someone for shouting "bang! bang!" would be more offensive than the acting of shouting it at a blinded policeman.
Similarly, in this case, 18 weeks in prison (or even 9, with good behaviour) for "posting messages on Facebook and Youtube"? He could have assaulted the parents and got less. He could have burgled their homes during the funeral and got less. 18 weeks for merely upsetting someone is excessive, particularly for a first conviction.
Shit, I must be due a few decades, I piss people off online all the time. Freedom of expression has to include the freedom to offend people, or it's no freedom at all.
Public transport isn't a viable option for some people, on health grounds. Even if it were, your travel estimates are bewilderingly wrong.
Lets take Sheffield; it's one of the closest parts of Yorkshire to London. Assume you take a mere 5 minutes to get to the main train station in Sheffield, and that you have a 10m walk to your office in London (both assumptions are generous - it takes nearly 10m to get out of St Pancras at rush hour).
To work 9-5 in London on Monday you'd have a minimum of 15m (walking either side) + 2h19m on the train to get to work, and 15m walking + 2h14m on the train to get home.
In other words, over 5 hours travel time for a mere £162. Except I've cheated. I've assumed the trains will run on time - last time I had to commute by train 2/3 of them were late and 3/4 of them were heavily overcrowded. I've also cheated your hypothetical employer. To get such short train journey times I've had to pick trains that give you 8 minutes to run to the office, and a mere 3 minutes to get out of the office and onto a train. So you'd eat into your working day.
Maybe you're cool with this. Perhaps you enjoy a long commute. Possibly you can afford to relocate to the job, you don't have family or other constraints preventing this. Lots of people have that luxury, but lots don't.
However, not everybody wants a developer job. I could take a massive paycut and go and do a developer job that would drive me insane, bore me senseless and leave me frustrated, angry, anti-social and unable to afford my current lifestyle (which isn't extravagent, get me onto a rant about tax burdens for single men another time).
There are, across the whole of the midlands, the North West, Yorkshire, the South West and London, very few employers seeking people with my skills to do the job I'm best qualified for. Rule out the ones I don't want to work for, rule out the ones I can't afford to work for (i.e. most of London, due to multiple factors) and rule out the jobs I don't actually want and it's bloody difficult finding a job.
Which is why I'm commuting 2 hours each way. The current job's in a shitty location but it's a good job.
The country is small enough and has decent enough transport that you can pretty much always commute to somewhere that has job
Have you tried actually living here? Commuting takes a fuck of a lot of time even within the same region. Shit, even within the same town.
I recently opted not to take a job in Bristol - a mere 180 miles away - because I didn't fancy the 3 hour each-way commute. Forgive my laziness, but the current 2 hour each-way commute already causes stress and sleep loss.
Thing is, patterns are reusable because they solve commonly encountered problems. It shouldn't be a suprise that many people adopt a similar - or identical - approach to solvig such problems.
A 3k LoC method may be in Java but isn't relevant to a patterns discussion. I fear several of the other books discussed here would be more initially useful to that coder.
Erm. Stuff like Singleton, Facade and Adapter are pretty obvious, but anybody programming in an OO language for more than a few days will "invent/discover" Decorator all for themselves.
Other patterns are less obvious - variations on less generally useful (but still ideal in the correct circumstances) patterns such as Flyweight or Command will generally be implemented, and variations on a theme for most of the patterns will occur in almost any OO code.
The GoF book primarily gives you a language for describing them, and a reference approach for implementing them. This doesn't necessarily change your code much (if at all) but does make it much easier for other people to understand and maintain.
E.g. JUnit was released with a simple description of how it was constructed by just drawing attention to the patterns used. It was pair programmed, so there was no upfront design saying "Use this pattern here" (although those words might be been used during the pair sessions) but in subsequently describing the code structure to an audience the pattern language proved extremely useful.
Obscure ones.. well, I've never needed 'Bridge' or 'State'. I guess I address such problems using other approaches (and patterns).
Re: Alexander's work, he does explain the need and role of a pattern language beautifully, but A Timeless Way of Building went far beyond that and I'd recommend it to anybody doing design (which includes all good programmers) for its philosophy.
Or a programmer that writes software, not algorithms.
I don't care which sort routine is most optimal. I merely need a 'good enough' one that I can pull out of the standard language libraries and use.
Let the computer scientists model, design and provide reference implementations for new algorithms. The rest of us will turn them into useful software.
Maybe if you work at Google, or a market trading company, or one of those other roles that comprises a thousandth of one percent of programming jobs where that shit actually matters then it's useful. The rest of us just need to know when to use an array in preference to a linked list and focus instead on functionality, interface and the several hundred constraints we're dealing with that are more important than a marginal improvement in efficiency.
That's not a "When you first started programming" book though. That's a "When you've been programming for 1-2 years" book.
It's pretty much essential then though. Along with Fowler's Refactoring, and The Pragmatic Programmer, all of which add far more value when encountered a year or two into a programming career.
you can go and try to build amazing and crazy things
But I'm a software engineer at heart. I write things that do the work for me, I don't do it myself.
Minecraft clearly works for people that want to make stuff, but lots of people just want the made stuff. That doesn't mean they aren't creative, it doesn't mean they aren't capable, it just means they've optimised out that slow tedious build phase.
Out of curiousity are you a racist bigot or a religious one? Or both?
Or to put it another way, just what the fuck does Bloomberg being a Jew have to do with anything? If he is one. (I don't actually know, because - get this - it doesn't fucking matter).
Oooh, I can throw an xbox, keyboard, mouse, monitor, a terabyte of storage and a standalone power source into my bag along with all the clothing I need for a week away at work and use it to play Napolean: Empire War or Football Manager 2011?
Or maybe it would be too fucking heavy, inconvenient, slower, unable to perform the general purpose computing tasks I also use my laptop for and still suffer a red ring of fucking death.
Yeah, those serious gamers with their xbox really showed me.
I'm also in their core target market, and 4-5 months ago I paid a comparable amount and got a laptop with - quad core i7 - faster graphics card - 250gb SSD + 750gb 7200rpm spindle disk - touchpad where I can actually use it - erm, one extra USB port. And yeah, I use four at times.
I actually do love the idea of making the touchpad a screen. I'm not sure what I'd _use_ it for, but I _like_ it and I want it. But not over there, not in place of a numpad, particularly not in place of cursor keys.
As designed, it's an expensive gimmick. I hope the people that do buy really love it and get value from their purchase, and I hope other manufacturers take inspiration from the trackpad and buttons - but retain their boring old "put the physical interaction capabilities where they're useful" design too.
I'm confused. You're replying to someone discussing what Jesus did or did not say, by quoting a work of fiction written long after he died and edited by people that weren't even alive at the time.
At which point did you actually think this might be remotely close to a reliable source?
Or the mother could assess the health, quality of life and financial implications of the parasite growing within her and seek appropriate medical resolution of this unwanted illness.
Next from kevinNCSU: Why doctors are immoral God haters that should be put to death for daring to prevent His plans for shortened lives for the unfortunate. Sorry, for the evil sinners.
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Interfering with a prosecution is something that must be taken seriously, so I can understand the concern there. And she did in fact avoid jail, so the response does feel somewhat more proportionate than in this case.
I'm just not from a "lock 'em up" school. I want better, more appropriate and useful (to society, and to the offender) responses to crime and civil disturbance.
Why should I respect a bag of rotting flesh? This may be a societal norm, but that doesn't mean that it's unreasonable to disregard it.
It probably is unreasonable to seek out grieving families and taunt them, but I also think it's unreasonable to use Facebook so my sympathy levels are low.
She was extremely lucky not to get a substantial jail sentence
It may just be me, but jailing someone for shouting "bang! bang!" would be more offensive than the acting of shouting it at a blinded policeman.
Similarly, in this case, 18 weeks in prison (or even 9, with good behaviour) for "posting messages on Facebook and Youtube"? He could have assaulted the parents and got less. He could have burgled their homes during the funeral and got less. 18 weeks for merely upsetting someone is excessive, particularly for a first conviction.
Shit, I must be due a few decades, I piss people off online all the time. Freedom of expression has to include the freedom to offend people, or it's no freedom at all.
65ms trans-atlantic? They don't know the luxury they're enjoying. Try online gaming with this link:
----pip.shsu.edu PING Statistics----
26644 packets transmitted, 19888 packets received, 25% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 240/1177/17729.
(actual ping record from '93, on a PVP server. And yeah, I had a positive kill ratio)
The live footage from that day remains some of most remarkable television in history.
It was evocative, visually rich and had an impact far beyond a mere 3000 deaths.
I did think the second aircraft hitting was cooler than the towers collapsing though.
It's also why I lacked sympathy for America at the time - and since.
New York was a major source of funding for terrorists, so it was somewhat fitting that they became a target too.
You'd have more credibility if suicide bombers didn't come from middle-class backgrounds.
They often do.
A wireless link has high geek factor, but I'd really prefer not to have a radio transmitter inside my skull.
My programmable in-the-ear aids work sufficiently well without talking to each other.
Public transport isn't a viable option for some people, on health grounds. Even if it were, your travel estimates are bewilderingly wrong.
Lets take Sheffield; it's one of the closest parts of Yorkshire to London. Assume you take a mere 5 minutes to get to the main train station in Sheffield, and that you have a 10m walk to your office in London (both assumptions are generous - it takes nearly 10m to get out of St Pancras at rush hour).
To work 9-5 in London on Monday you'd have a minimum of 15m (walking either side) + 2h19m on the train to get to work, and 15m walking + 2h14m on the train to get home.
In other words, over 5 hours travel time for a mere £162. Except I've cheated. I've assumed the trains will run on time - last time I had to commute by train 2/3 of them were late and 3/4 of them were heavily overcrowded.
I've also cheated your hypothetical employer. To get such short train journey times I've had to pick trains that give you 8 minutes to run to the office, and a mere 3 minutes to get out of the office and onto a train. So you'd eat into your working day.
Maybe you're cool with this. Perhaps you enjoy a long commute. Possibly you can afford to relocate to the job, you don't have family or other constraints preventing this. Lots of people have that luxury, but lots don't.
However, not everybody wants a developer job. I could take a massive paycut and go and do a developer job that would drive me insane, bore me senseless and leave me frustrated, angry, anti-social and unable to afford my current lifestyle (which isn't extravagent, get me onto a rant about tax burdens for single men another time).
There are, across the whole of the midlands, the North West, Yorkshire, the South West and London, very few employers seeking people with my skills to do the job I'm best qualified for. Rule out the ones I don't want to work for, rule out the ones I can't afford to work for (i.e. most of London, due to multiple factors) and rule out the jobs I don't actually want and it's bloody difficult finding a job.
Which is why I'm commuting 2 hours each way. The current job's in a shitty location but it's a good job.
The country is small enough and has decent enough transport that you can pretty much always commute to somewhere that has job
Have you tried actually living here? Commuting takes a fuck of a lot of time even within the same region. Shit, even within the same town.
I recently opted not to take a job in Bristol - a mere 180 miles away - because I didn't fancy the 3 hour each-way commute. Forgive my laziness, but the current 2 hour each-way commute already causes stress and sleep loss.
Thing is, patterns are reusable because they solve commonly encountered problems. It shouldn't be a suprise that many people adopt a similar - or identical - approach to solvig such problems.
A 3k LoC method may be in Java but isn't relevant to a patterns discussion. I fear several of the other books discussed here would be more initially useful to that coder.
You being a cunt doesn't make your initial post any less condescending.
Erm. Stuff like Singleton, Facade and Adapter are pretty obvious, but anybody programming in an OO language for more than a few days will "invent/discover" Decorator all for themselves.
Other patterns are less obvious - variations on less generally useful (but still ideal in the correct circumstances) patterns such as Flyweight or Command will generally be implemented, and variations on a theme for most of the patterns will occur in almost any OO code.
The GoF book primarily gives you a language for describing them, and a reference approach for implementing them. This doesn't necessarily change your code much (if at all) but does make it much easier for other people to understand and maintain.
E.g. JUnit was released with a simple description of how it was constructed by just drawing attention to the patterns used. It was pair programmed, so there was no upfront design saying "Use this pattern here" (although those words might be been used during the pair sessions) but in subsequently describing the code structure to an audience the pattern language proved extremely useful.
Obscure ones.. well, I've never needed 'Bridge' or 'State'. I guess I address such problems using other approaches (and patterns).
Re: Alexander's work, he does explain the need and role of a pattern language beautifully, but A Timeless Way of Building went far beyond that and I'd recommend it to anybody doing design (which includes all good programmers) for its philosophy.
How does "The Magic Faraway Tree" help become a Good Coder[tm]?
Or a programmer that writes software, not algorithms.
I don't care which sort routine is most optimal. I merely need a 'good enough' one that I can pull out of the standard language libraries and use.
Let the computer scientists model, design and provide reference implementations for new algorithms. The rest of us will turn them into useful software.
Maybe if you work at Google, or a market trading company, or one of those other roles that comprises a thousandth of one percent of programming jobs where that shit actually matters then it's useful. The rest of us just need to know when to use an array in preference to a linked list and focus instead on functionality, interface and the several hundred constraints we're dealing with that are more important than a marginal improvement in efficiency.
That's not a "When you first started programming" book though. That's a "When you've been programming for 1-2 years" book.
It's pretty much essential then though. Along with Fowler's Refactoring, and The Pragmatic Programmer, all of which add far more value when encountered a year or two into a programming career.
you can go and try to build amazing and crazy things
But I'm a software engineer at heart. I write things that do the work for me, I don't do it myself.
Minecraft clearly works for people that want to make stuff, but lots of people just want the made stuff. That doesn't mean they aren't creative, it doesn't mean they aren't capable, it just means they've optimised out that slow tedious build phase.
Out of curiousity are you a racist bigot or a religious one? Or both?
Or to put it another way, just what the fuck does Bloomberg being a Jew have to do with anything? If he is one. (I don't actually know, because - get this - it doesn't fucking matter).
Oooh, I can throw an xbox, keyboard, mouse, monitor, a terabyte of storage and a standalone power source into my bag along with all the clothing I need for a week away at work and use it to play Napolean: Empire War or Football Manager 2011?
Or maybe it would be too fucking heavy, inconvenient, slower, unable to perform the general purpose computing tasks I also use my laptop for and still suffer a red ring of fucking death.
Yeah, those serious gamers with their xbox really showed me.
I'm also in their core target market, and 4-5 months ago I paid a comparable amount and got a laptop with
- quad core i7
- faster graphics card
- 250gb SSD + 750gb 7200rpm spindle disk
- touchpad where I can actually use it
- erm, one extra USB port. And yeah, I use four at times.
I actually do love the idea of making the touchpad a screen. I'm not sure what I'd _use_ it for, but I _like_ it and I want it. But not over there, not in place of a numpad, particularly not in place of cursor keys.
As designed, it's an expensive gimmick. I hope the people that do buy really love it and get value from their purchase, and I hope other manufacturers take inspiration from the trackpad and buttons - but retain their boring old "put the physical interaction capabilities where they're useful" design too.
I'm a gamer, and I bought a higher spec laptop than that one because I work away from home. Monster PCs are fuck all use if they're 110 miles away.
The market exists, I just don't think that laptop's well designed.
Thanks, and have fun.
I'm confused. You're replying to someone discussing what Jesus did or did not say, by quoting a work of fiction written long after he died and edited by people that weren't even alive at the time.
At which point did you actually think this might be remotely close to a reliable source?
Or the mother could assess the health, quality of life and financial implications of the parasite growing within her and seek appropriate medical resolution of this unwanted illness.
Next from kevinNCSU: Why doctors are immoral God haters that should be put to death for daring to prevent His plans for shortened lives for the unfortunate. Sorry, for the evil sinners.
Yeah, but I read books 5-20 times each. They're excellent value for money.
It's a rare game that I'll pick up and replay 2 years later..