Really? My understanding in the UK is that companies can have and enforce a policy that office relationships are not permitted.
Very few companies would even try, but I would expect most to have a policy regarding relationships between managers and the reporting line underneath them.
It's necessary to protect the company, and so it's good business sense. That it also protects both parties within a potential relationship is a bonus.
Enforcing the policy unevenly could be actionable, as (e.g.) always sacking a man and never a woman (or vice versa) would be illegal on the grounds of sexual discrimination, but I don't think the policy itself would be illegal.
A see-through blouse with a camisole underneath is considered professional attire at companies I've worked for. It may well be an attractive looking garment, particularly when worn by certain body shapes, but that doesn't make it unprofessional.
Shit, women wear camisoles under a suit jacket with no blouse at all.
Where the dress code permits t-shirts with holes worn in them too? Actually, you're right: It sounds like a company incapable of controlling its male staff and using a dress code to remove things they may find attractive.
that is not in any way, shape or form dependent on their assets, but only on what someone wants to pay
You appear to be assuming every other person on the market is as stupid as you. They're not.
you still haven't provided an objective connection between stock price and company assets
I didn't say it was just assets. It's a complex function of multiple things, including investor sentiment. You're the fuckwit claiming that it's all entirely only down to investor sentiment.
Fuck it. Go blow your money on the stock market. My pension fund will thank you.
All you keep doing is putting forth your delusions as fact, but you can not support them.
That's very ironic.
So if there are two companies, both sell widgets, both have $100m/year revenue, both make $10m/year profit, both pay $1m/year in dividends, both have 2000 staff, both have released no new products in the last two years, but one company has $500m in the bank and the other company has net liabilities of $500m, you're telling me they're worth the same?
They're not. Now grow the fuck up and learn some basic fucking financial analysis.
That does not mean following the markers has objective value.
If Apple stopped trading tomorrow their revenue streams would be 0, their profit would be 0, their future dividends would rapidly tend towards 0.
The company would not be worth 0. Its assets have objective value.
You've drank the Kool-Aid, and consider these subjective markers to be denoting some kind of objective value on the stock.
I don't drink Kool-Aid. Shit, I don't even know where I can buy it in this country. They're not subjective. There is an objective value to a company's stock.
ICE is behaving in the most disgusting, despotic fashion right now.
It is? Do share, I haven't heard about that one.
You have no idea what these families are escaping, but I would love to put all of you on a plane, take your passports from you and drop you off in the countries they're fleeing.
If they're fleeing persecution then they can apply for asylum in the first safe country they reach. Did they do that, or did they continue onwards to America? If they're not fleeing persecution then what's the fucking issue? They can't fix their own fucking country?
It's because of your shitty opinions that I hope America gets its ass kicked hard some time in the future, and I hope the winds don't carry the fallout too far outside your borders when your entire nation gets the nuclear incineration it brought upon itself.
Oh, you're a fucking saint you are. "Oh, I don't like these people enforcing their laws. Murder several hundred million of them, that'll show them" ?
I don't mind Slashdot posting that this has happened. I think it is newsworthy.
Linking to the database itself is more interesting. At a surface level I shrug because I have no interest and I'm not going to contact anybody listed within it. I understand though your concern regarding how others might use it.
Information wants to be free, and this information was already on the internet. Right now it's really just a big juicy honeypot waiting to snare silly people.
How? By been secret. Stop publishing information. Use front companies and locations to run investigations from. Dont use a cell phone. Dont use the internet.
Fuck that. People working for a legitimate government agency, following the law, obeying the constitution, earning their living in a non-sensitive role should not have to hide.
These guys work for customs and immigrations. They're not international spies, they aren't decrypting Russian diplomatic messages, they aren't hacking Chinese satellites. They check your bag at the border and arrest people breaking US border laws.
Step one isn't maximum operational security, it's arresting any cunt stupid enough to conspire to harass, assault or murder one of these people.
WTF is it with all this bashing of a small organization who's mission is to stop Nazis or any rebranded resurgence?
Oh, which one is that? I thought we were talking about the people that organise violent attacks on people giving talks at universities, or use bike locks to assault peaceful protesters.
It is as if we had more attack on them than we did for the Neo-Nazis
No, it's as though people dislike violent bullies that refuse to engage in discourse and label anybody they want to assault a neo-nazi to try and justify their illegal violence.
it is far more important to go after Nazi fanboys
No, it's equally important to oppose those that would impose their politics on us with violence whatever their politics happen to be.
One would think a tiny little known group like Antifa would be praised
Only if you're in the habit of praising groups US Homeland Security have designated a terrorist organisation.
when they got on the national scene
Little known but on the national scene? Come on, at least make your propaganda consistent within the same fucking paragraph.
our recent Nazi fanboy resurgence
So resurgent that people had to make up a whole new label because they couldn't actually find any nazis.
I question the motives or intelligence of people who jump on the bandwagon to attack the anti-Nazi crowd.
You don't need to question my motives. I write against Antifa because I see them using the same tactics the Nazi party used in 30s Germany and I don't like, support or accept that.
As for my intelligence, I'm feeling smug about that when I read your nonsense.
For every open Nazi fanatic there are 100s of like minded people who are not as extreme but agree with a lot of it
Oh? Which studies demonstrate this?
It's an issue for all issue organizations
As an issue organisation, Antifa must thus have this issue too. Well, to be fair and even handed, could you provide a study for that as well?
they felt safe to come out in the open and surprised people by how much they've grown in number and boldness
This I'll accept. I'm bloody surprise how small in number they are, given the violence against them, given the institutional racism shown by universities in America, given the media coverage.
Shit, you may be right. Perhaps they're much larger than the visible minority, and just scared to stand up for their own rights and freedoms because of the constant and persistent marginalisation and violence shown against them by the education system, the media and Antifa.
You should worry. Keep oppressing people because of their skin colour or political views and they'll start to band together and respond. Then the shit hits the fan.
Interesting. Where are these, and who is being tortured, gassed to death, medically experimented on, executed without trial and/or forced to make munitions to support a war?
He may be being obtuse but you're being an idiot. Yes, there is a very real difference.
One is breaking up a family by removing the children. The other is enforcing the law, which unfortunately means the children are left without a carer and must thus be looked after by the state.
It's a pretty clear and obvious difference to anybody that isn't being obtuse or stupid.
Hmm. If you're referring to the deaths in the 30s and 40s of people of Jewish descent then the mere fact I have to refer to them using that term tells you it had fuck all to do with religion.
Did he comment on whether we can compare the people seeking unlimited immigration to change the demographic make-up of the country to Stalin and his ethnic cleansing activities?
You don't seem to appreciate the difference between a common criminal and someone who attempts to give his children a better life by going to the USofA.
Ooh, can I play? Is it that the person illegally entering the country is an uncommon criminal?
No, seriously, what the fuck is the difference between a criminal and a criminal?
Technically Facebook have no contractual relationship with the estate, the executor or the legal next of kin. They can do whatever the fuck they want with the data within the constrains of the law, including deleting it forever.
No, my argument is akin to saying that nobody has ever created a computer capable of correctly parsing spoken English in England, and therefore the ability to act on the parsed sentence is entirely fucking irrelevant because it will often have failed miserably to actually understand what was said.
Don't worry about my logic, have a look at your own.
Right now they haven't invented an AI that can actually fucking understand spoken English. Solve that one and I might believe you can replace human interfaces to a knowledge base.
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That's a really fucked up view of marriage.
In the US marriage gives the women all of the power.
In Islamic states marriage gives the men all of the power.
Almost nowhere does marriage give both partners a power balance.
Really? My understanding in the UK is that companies can have and enforce a policy that office relationships are not permitted.
Very few companies would even try, but I would expect most to have a policy regarding relationships between managers and the reporting line underneath them.
It's necessary to protect the company, and so it's good business sense. That it also protects both parties within a potential relationship is a bonus.
Enforcing the policy unevenly could be actionable, as (e.g.) always sacking a man and never a woman (or vice versa) would be illegal on the grounds of sexual discrimination, but I don't think the policy itself would be illegal.
There is a simple response to that situation: https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/13...
I think you just assumed gender.
A see-through blouse with a camisole underneath is considered professional attire at companies I've worked for. It may well be an attractive looking garment, particularly when worn by certain body shapes, but that doesn't make it unprofessional.
Shit, women wear camisoles under a suit jacket with no blouse at all.
Where the dress code permits t-shirts with holes worn in them too? Actually, you're right: It sounds like a company incapable of controlling its male staff and using a dress code to remove things they may find attractive.
The answer still isn't the stupid dress code.
that is not in any way, shape or form dependent on their assets, but only on what someone wants to pay
You appear to be assuming every other person on the market is as stupid as you. They're not.
you still haven't provided an objective connection between stock price and company assets
I didn't say it was just assets. It's a complex function of multiple things, including investor sentiment. You're the fuckwit claiming that it's all entirely only down to investor sentiment.
Fuck it. Go blow your money on the stock market. My pension fund will thank you.
All you keep doing is putting forth your delusions as fact, but you can not support them.
That's very ironic.
So if there are two companies, both sell widgets, both have $100m/year revenue, both make $10m/year profit, both pay $1m/year in dividends, both have 2000 staff, both have released no new products in the last two years, but one company has $500m in the bank and the other company has net liabilities of $500m, you're telling me they're worth the same?
They're not. Now grow the fuck up and learn some basic fucking financial analysis.
That does not mean following the markers has objective value.
If Apple stopped trading tomorrow their revenue streams would be 0, their profit would be 0, their future dividends would rapidly tend towards 0.
The company would not be worth 0. Its assets have objective value.
You've drank the Kool-Aid, and consider these subjective markers to be denoting some kind of objective value on the stock.
I don't drink Kool-Aid. Shit, I don't even know where I can buy it in this country. They're not subjective. There is an objective value to a company's stock.
Sorry to burst your delusions.
Hmm. Which of the Geneva conventions are they contravening? Rulings from the ICC they're ignoring? UN charters they're breaching?
'War crime' is a very strong accusation. Do you have actual evidence or are you just talking shit?
I'll believe it when I can talk to a computer without getting deeply frustrated by its inability to understand what I'm saying.
ICE is behaving in the most disgusting, despotic fashion right now.
It is? Do share, I haven't heard about that one.
You have no idea what these families are escaping, but I would love to put all of you on a plane, take your passports from you and drop you off in the countries they're fleeing.
If they're fleeing persecution then they can apply for asylum in the first safe country they reach. Did they do that, or did they continue onwards to America?
If they're not fleeing persecution then what's the fucking issue? They can't fix their own fucking country?
It's because of your shitty opinions that I hope America gets its ass kicked hard some time in the future, and I hope the winds don't carry the fallout too far outside your borders when your entire nation gets the nuclear incineration it brought upon itself.
Oh, you're a fucking saint you are. "Oh, I don't like these people enforcing their laws. Murder several hundred million of them, that'll show them" ?
Stop being dicks
There's a word you need to learn: http://www.dictionary.com/brow...
Are you suggesting they posted their details on LinkedIn to facilitate a crime? That sounds unlikely to me.
I'm sure you were just trying to make a joke. It wasn't funny.
I don't mind Slashdot posting that this has happened. I think it is newsworthy.
Linking to the database itself is more interesting. At a surface level I shrug because I have no interest and I'm not going to contact anybody listed within it. I understand though your concern regarding how others might use it.
Information wants to be free, and this information was already on the internet. Right now it's really just a big juicy honeypot waiting to snare silly people.
How? By been secret. Stop publishing information. Use front companies and locations to run investigations from. Dont use a cell phone. Dont use the internet.
Fuck that. People working for a legitimate government agency, following the law, obeying the constitution, earning their living in a non-sensitive role should not have to hide.
These guys work for customs and immigrations. They're not international spies, they aren't decrypting Russian diplomatic messages, they aren't hacking Chinese satellites. They check your bag at the border and arrest people breaking US border laws.
Step one isn't maximum operational security, it's arresting any cunt stupid enough to conspire to harass, assault or murder one of these people.
ANTIFA have caused 3% of injuries that white supremacist groups did in the past year, two years, and even less if we look further back
That's interesting. Where is the analysis published, I'd like to read that.
WTF is it with all this bashing of a small organization who's mission is to stop Nazis or any rebranded resurgence?
Oh, which one is that? I thought we were talking about the people that organise violent attacks on people giving talks at universities, or use bike locks to assault peaceful protesters.
It is as if we had more attack on them than we did for the Neo-Nazis
No, it's as though people dislike violent bullies that refuse to engage in discourse and label anybody they want to assault a neo-nazi to try and justify their illegal violence.
it is far more important to go after Nazi fanboys
No, it's equally important to oppose those that would impose their politics on us with violence whatever their politics happen to be.
One would think a tiny little known group like Antifa would be praised
Only if you're in the habit of praising groups US Homeland Security have designated a terrorist organisation.
when they got on the national scene
Little known but on the national scene? Come on, at least make your propaganda consistent within the same fucking paragraph.
our recent Nazi fanboy resurgence
So resurgent that people had to make up a whole new label because they couldn't actually find any nazis.
I question the motives or intelligence of people who jump on the bandwagon to attack the anti-Nazi crowd.
You don't need to question my motives. I write against Antifa because I see them using the same tactics the Nazi party used in 30s Germany and I don't like, support or accept that.
As for my intelligence, I'm feeling smug about that when I read your nonsense.
For every open Nazi fanatic there are 100s of like minded people who are not as extreme but agree with a lot of it
Oh? Which studies demonstrate this?
It's an issue for all issue organizations
As an issue organisation, Antifa must thus have this issue too. Well, to be fair and even handed, could you provide a study for that as well?
they felt safe to come out in the open and surprised people by how much they've grown in number and boldness
This I'll accept. I'm bloody surprise how small in number they are, given the violence against them, given the institutional racism shown by universities in America, given the media coverage.
Shit, you may be right. Perhaps they're much larger than the visible minority, and just scared to stand up for their own rights and freedoms because of the constant and persistent marginalisation and violence shown against them by the education system, the media and Antifa.
You should worry. Keep oppressing people because of their skin colour or political views and they'll start to band together and respond. Then the shit hits the fan.
The people that run US concentration camps
Interesting. Where are these, and who is being tortured, gassed to death, medically experimented on, executed without trial and/or forced to make munitions to support a war?
Someone should publicise this shit.
He may be being obtuse but you're being an idiot. Yes, there is a very real difference.
One is breaking up a family by removing the children.
The other is enforcing the law, which unfortunately means the children are left without a carer and must thus be looked after by the state.
It's a pretty clear and obvious difference to anybody that isn't being obtuse or stupid.
religious persecution
Hmm. If you're referring to the deaths in the 30s and 40s of people of Jewish descent then the mere fact I have to refer to them using that term tells you it had fuck all to do with religion.
Do you think we put the kids in the wilderness to wander aimlessly?
Oh, of course not, no. Don't be silly.
According to Tumblr, Twitter and half of Slashdot you loose them in the wilderness then hunt them down using jeeps and crossbows.
Did he comment on whether we can compare the people seeking unlimited immigration to change the demographic make-up of the country to Stalin and his ethnic cleansing activities?
You don't seem to appreciate the difference between a common criminal and someone who attempts to give his children a better life by going to the USofA.
Ooh, can I play? Is it that the person illegally entering the country is an uncommon criminal?
No, seriously, what the fuck is the difference between a criminal and a criminal?
Technically Facebook have no contractual relationship with the estate, the executor or the legal next of kin. They can do whatever the fuck they want with the data within the constrains of the law, including deleting it forever.
No, my argument is akin to saying that nobody has ever created a computer capable of correctly parsing spoken English in England, and therefore the ability to act on the parsed sentence is entirely fucking irrelevant because it will often have failed miserably to actually understand what was said.
Don't worry about my logic, have a look at your own.
Computers can't even display your shitty typing correctly, forgive me if I doubt their ability to competently debate.
Right now they haven't invented an AI that can actually fucking understand spoken English. Solve that one and I might believe you can replace human interfaces to a knowledge base.